Weekend Open Thread 20 October 2018

I don’t know what to write. The BBC need not broadcast anti Brexit propaganda because the government is failing to represent the outcome of the Referendum without any help .

Elsewhere the constant propaganda against President Trump is becoming worn out as he continues to repair his country after years of Democratic swamp rule .

For those marching for Remaining on Saturday  ( disputed numbers of course)  – it’s good that you still have the freedom to do so because people with out of fashion views find themselves becoming enemies of the State – with political trials and summary sentences .

I have posted this early because of the recent server issues …

Bookmark the permalink.

280 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 20 October 2018

  1. Panda says:

    What with Ramjam Choudry being released and 20 ‘men’ being locked up from Huddersfield i’m feeling particularly enriched this weekend! Surely there are parties taking place across our beautiful land celebrating diversity and this wonderful new vibrancy i’m nearly feeling.


  2. Guest Who says:

    Bbc gets a mention. Dishonourable.



  3. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2018-10-20 BBC Headlines
    “Anjem Choudary: How dangerous is he?”
    So I click on this.
    I am now in BBC News UK
    Which is a page full of bearded men, with a couple of old anti-white articles (TR etc) added to fill it.

    So the question is “How dangerous is the BBC?”
    To the UK, very dangerous. To the white race, very dangerous.
    To our enemies, the UN, the EU etc, not at all dangerous.
    Vote UKIP and shut the BBC.


  4. Guest Who says:

    Clever Ali.


  5. Roland Deschain says:

    Some marches the BBC likes to publicise. Others, well, not so much.


  6. Guest Who says:

    Easy to see how all the bbc single ladies’ hearts are a flutter.

    Modest with it.


  7. scribblingscribe says:

    The BBC news web site today has no mention of the Muslim rapists from Huddersfield. Not a dickie bird.

    It has items about manspreading in Russia, “twitchers flocking to see man’s bird”, “the moving inside story of an adoption” , “Mansize tissues,” but sod all about the real news.


  8. StewGreen says:

    Info about the Sarah Champion interview
    It did seem the BBC wascoming around and was willing to address the issue , but it was like there was a rogue engineer and one one rogue backroom team member who wanted to disrupt the process.

    – 6pm Sarah Champion tweeted this
    \\ Well, never thought I’d hear this but thank you @BBCRadio4 news for acknowledging the reality of grooming gangs. Finally! Now maybe More can be done to prevent this form of child abuse.//
    Then last night
    \\ On @BBCr4today at 08.10 Saturday talking about grooming gangs. What’s the worst that can happen? Oh, wait…//
    Then at 8:23am
    \\ Bumped to 08.30 by @BBCr4today
    No mention of grooming gangs on the TV news.
    Please don’t let these appalling abuses go unrecognised again, the victims & survivors deserve real change!//
    8:35 Interview 90 seconds of ‘Sarah can you hear me?
    Sarah? well she was there ”
    SC “I can hear you”
    She got in the point that it is STILL happening
    cos you don’t sudden;y change the nature of perps
    That Huddersfield was Pakistani origin
    and victims white
    as if the perps targeted girls from 16 down to 10 years old
    who were in the care system
    She starts to name all the town
    LIne down
    Line back
    Mishal pushed “What about Asian victims”
    SC ‘ We think there are some , but given the nature of the shame they don’t come forward”
    ..Line down
    They give up and switch to sociology woman who want to talk about that the average groomer is white , younger and above average income
    8:40 retweets
    \\ Statement made by @SarahChampionMP that we should concentrate on the quality of evidence not the credibility of victims in sexual abuse cases. So critical.//
    8:42am SC Retweets list of abuse towns

    8:43am tweeted
    \\ Grrrrr! I can’t tell you how annoyed I am that @BBCr4today messed up the line so I couldn’t be heard.
    **Symptomatic if anyone trying to speak out against grooming gangs!** //

    Someone else tweets
    \\ John Humphrys conveniently intervenes just as you’re about to make a comment people don’t like. Incredible really.//

    8:48 SC tweeted
    \\ Not least as the engineer said the line was fine! https://twitter.com/ishousecroft/status/1053552144639496192 …//

    Since then SC’s account has tweeted 23 times within 30 mins

    Almost no R4Today listeners tweeters about the segment


    • Fedup2 says:

      Wonder how many members of a racist Pakistani paedo gang work in Al beeb Engineering don’t it ??

      Bit like technical faults when brexiteers are interviewed on remote ….


    • StewGreen says:

      \\ We need research into the motivations of the abusers so we can prevent other children being attacked //
      Someone tweeted Friday night “BBC report this for ONE day then they will forget it forever.”
      and she replies
      \\ Sadly your prophesy seems to be true//
      She tweeted support for Lucy Allan the Telford MP , and Julian Knight MP
      \\ Parents repeatedly tried to report/stop abuse but they were threatened & belittled. Plus, abusers actively try to get girls away from families & into care //
      \\ My research has shown nine child sex abusers jailed EVERY DAY as wave of vile crimes sweeps Britain //
      \\ The issues need to be investigated fairly & honestly, including the motivations of those who ignored the crimes.
      This is the v least those girls deserve.
      *Failure to do so will also allow the far-right to capitalise further* on these crimes. //
      (Jesus still attacking a largely mythical “far-right” )
      \\ There’s a problem we need to talk about in this country. There are some 12,000 men in prison convicted of sex offences (only about 150 women, some of whom used to be men). This is the tip of the iceberg.//

      She points us to her Facebook discussion


    • Sluff says:

      There’s a conundrum.
      Labour MP dares to speak out about Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs.
      Do you think she’ll be ‘Momentummed’ out of the party for disloyalty?

      Meanwhile, the cesspit that is the BBC pro-muslim, sweep it under the carpet, policy, continues unabated and unashamed.


    • G says:

      “Almost no R4Today listeners tweeters about the segment”. Perhaps now, only a few listeners? That would be really good.


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Did you or someone else capture (e.g. print screen save) all these tweets because they have already seem to have been removed.


      • StewGreen says:

        Sarah Champions tweets seem to show up in her “with replies section” although Twitter puts some of them out of date order.

        But the one I embedded above was deleted
        It was a reply from a rape victim student who is aligned to the Labour Party “More In Common | @JewishLabour”
        The reason she’s now deleted it ?
        She says that this morning she has been receiving hate mail causing her a racist against “Asians”
        and then adds that the 2 guys who raped her were white.


  9. G says:

    ‘Hate Crimes’. I reported precisely this in my contribution here a few days ago. Then, I made the point: where will the categories end?
    I have to add that being in my 70’s, I, for one, would make good use of the additional protection of being able to complain about ‘age discrimination’. My word, I’d have a field day…………………..
    Watch out BBC: any snide comment about ‘the elderly’ would be met with a swift reference to the comment with the police. Just doin’ my bit, you understand…………


  10. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The Why does May think that an extra couple of months added to the extension period after the implementation period of article 50 will be needed.
    What can be achieved in 27 months with the eu that cannot be achieved in 24 months (she said it might only be a few months)

    We keep being told the eu leave everything until the last minute anyway so maybe concluding the ‘deal’ in 2019 instead will get the same deal as at the end of 2021.
    It will give May less time to give more away to them although I think she has willingly given them everything already and there’s little left to give away. All for nothing in return, maybe a hill of beans or a mess of porridge.


    • Sluff says:

      With a £67 bn trade surplus, shall I repeat that, £67 bn, with the UK you’d like to think someone would realise the ball is firmly in the EU court.
      Why don’t we just walk, keep the £40bn, and tell them we’re going to do nothing at the NI border, and we look forward to hearing about the Republic of Ireland’s proposals.


      • Up2snuff says:

        A good point at which to add the suggestion that if you did not hear Claire Fox on Any Questions speak about Brexit then the prog is repeated at 1.15pm on BBC R4 today.

        Worth a listen again.

        Worth three cheers!

        And a raised cuppa!!


    • Kaiser says:

      maybe Treasoner Mayhem is hoping to keep pushing the date further back in the hope that some great disaster can be constructed that can only be resolved by supposed EU unity and we can all breath a sigh of relief that we hadnt actually left after all.


    • Richard Pinder says:

      “Why does May think that an extra couple of months added to the extension period after the implementation period of article 50 will be needed”

      Its because Oily Robins wanted his people to stay and take part in the next EU budget. Otherwise these parasites would have been made redundant, which would have been a disaster for these Civil Servants, even though it costs the British taxpayer billions of pounds.

      Also, Oily Robins gets angry at the suggestion that these billions and billions of pounds would be better off being paid to the National Health Service.


  11. Oldspeaker says:


    “Why do people think this ‘manspreading’ video is a Kremlin hoax?”
    Hardly Swiftian if it is, still it appears to prickle the beebs precious sensitivities. It does demonstrate just how far down the road we are if the bbc believe this article is necessary, and how blurred the boundary between agenda and lunacy has become.


    • AsISeeIt says:

      I saw the video some time ago and though amusing it felt staged – but only in the way that light entertainment comedy sketches might be staged. For instance I wouldn’t put it past Noel Edmunds when in his pomp to fake a candid camera stunt. Remember the BBC themselves were not beyond faking HM The Queen walking backwards just to promote a show and take a pop at the Royals.

      In any case, why do the BBC bother to investigate or rather speculate on the authenticity of this gag?

      I firmly believe one of the main leftist cultural roles of the BBC is to disseminate leftwing arguments and talking points.

      Hence, their taking the time and trouble here. If and when a conservative might criticise the extreme feminist trope of mainspreading (which they really do claim is a real thing) the leftist having imbided his/her/insert pronoun BBC output, may retort ‘yeah Russian plot !’


      • StewGreen says:

        Yep yawn : “The woman throws bleach at manspreading” thing popped up on my screen
        I thought yep “dumb clickbait” and just moved on
        … and here’s MSM republishing and then the BBC going down a rabbit hole of making a big conspiracy of it,
        .. FFS the perspective is the normal world hardly bothered about it.

        On her own Facebook page sh says it was not fabricated


  12. AsISeeIt says:

    For various reasons the recent great statesmen of our day (don’t laugh) – Nick Clegg and David Cameron – are no longer to be seen on our tv screens eulogising the many mellifluous-sounding benefits of political union under Brussels.

    Instead it falls to the now ubiquitous youngster Femi Oluwole with his apparent keys to the BBC studios to front up the Remainer rearguard campaign. Vicky Derbyshire show this week and BBC Breakfast again this morning, to name but two of his airings.

    Is it just me or do others get the feeling he’s very much a frontman for personalities, money and interests afraid to show their faces?


  13. vlad says:

    As predicted, the ‘minor’ story of dozens of Pakistani muslim men raping dozens of girls (probably many more) in Huddersfied, has disappeared off the beeb webshite Home page, UK page, and England page at lightning seed.
    Hey, they were only white trash, had it coming, who cares? Not auntie apparently.

    Where is Huddersfield anyway? – Ed.

    Lest we forget…



    • Fedup2 says:

      I wonder how many of that lot will land up in white majority prisons eating tuna is solitary confinement with death threats for their wives and offspring .

      So much to be said for the use of state violence – as some call the death penalty ….


      • G.W.F. says:

        How about an award for the first journo to do a cover of the backlash against the Muslim pedo gangs
        I predict by Monday there will be stories and interviews with moslem victims of the far far right backlash.
        By Wednesday a study from a team on yoonie researchers will show an increase in hate crime in Uddersfield


        • Fedup2 says:

          And of course with the routine use of reporting restrictions there could be multiple Pakistani paedophilic racist gangs on trial up and down the country but we won’t know about them until the state decides facts can be released without upsetting Muslims . Do they really not understand why so called ‘ hate crimes ‘ are increasing .

          I’m actually surprised the reaction hasn’t been more – robust – or – passionate – as the common language of our time likes to use …


  14. Ed Hitter says:

    BBC hosts its usual biased panel on Dateline London.
    There are two foreign correspondents, and two U.K. commentators (one from the BBC house journal The Guardian, and the other ex-Guardian/Observer journo Adam Raphael).
    So on Brexit it’s a Remain fest, with Raphael calling Tory Brexiteers “nutters”.
    There’s chat about Saudi Arabia, mostly focused on US foreign policy.
    There’s nothing about a little matter of Pakistani rape gangs who target white children in English towns.
    The broadcaster’s news agenda is a disgrace.


    • Fedup2 says:

      From our own Corres

      I have detected a new al beeb narrative –
      Instead of voting anything other than far left voters are now voting green .

      Now I know that green issues become more important at the end of an economic cycle but even al beeb trying that is a bit desperate…


  15. G says:

    The European Court of Human Rights? I would vote next for the party that declared, if elected, it would withdraw from the Convention.
    More sickness indicitive: https://mailchi.mp/eclj/the-echr-against-the-right-to-freedom-of-conscience-for-mayors?e=e9dc1fd0bc


  16. StewGreen says:

    R4 just now : At minute 12, caller just talked straight
    -” Look it’s an Islamic problem, this grooming gang thing
    yet as soon as you speak up, the community shouts racism, Islamophobia
    ..this activity might be fine from where they come from”
    She, Anita Anand fades him down
    and speaks “Office of Children’s commissioner
    says that the number of victims or group or gangs that we are talking about that
    (STOP she is talking about ALL group rapes, whereas on street grooming is a specific Pak/Bangla thing 86% of the time)
    ..she continues : 36% identified their attackers as white
    27% as Asian (again a vague word instead of specifying Pak/Bangla/Muslim)
    16% as black
    (Look you have to context that with background population level Since whites are 85% of population they are way under-represented)
    “those are facts from a body that deals with these issues”
    He stands his ground
    .. and says “I know those figs, they date from 2012 ..you have to ask why you are using such old data ..it’s cos things as generally so suppressed
    She says “What about ?” “What about ?” *
    (That is true whataboutery ie distracting AWAY from the issue
    .. and
    He again stands up .. “yep if we have a lots of priests , yes we can say it’s a Catholic problem
    .. yeh that last German pope seemed to die quickly after questions were asked”

    Next caller Frank disagrees ..’ooh it’s all people’
    She chooses to mention that Abdul has texted to say he condemns the perps.


    • StewGreen says:


  17. StewGreen says:


    • Guest Who says:

      Someone mentioned Dateline London managed to have two contributors from the Graun stable. Interestingly, even with the BBC sub support they managed to come last on a table of failing dead tree titles that the bbc was trumpeting a few days ago.


    • ray_f says:

      I have to point out, and I’m pretty shocked that 16% of abusers are black. Seeing as blacks represent 1-2% of the population, that’s a far worse ratio. No doubt these are Somalian muslims, & unfortunately for white UK girls, the UK has the largest proportion of Somalians in Europe.

      So while concentrating on the Pakistan muslim rape gangs, the heat is off the Somali rape gangs.

      And the BBC shout ‘Look an indian!’ Who was a muslim until he was caught, then converted. A fact best avoided, but a pointless lie to omit it.

      As far as I can tell, the BBC(and the others) may be struggling to cover up the scale of the national pakistani white girl rape policy, they are managing to keep the same somali behavior under the radar.

      Diversity is our strength.
      Truth is racist.



  18. hillbear says:

    In the interests of ‘fair play’, I thought I would give the new Dr Who a try. Well, I have to say I really enjoyed it – the ‘BBC agenda’ was obvious but not too ‘in-yer-face’ and Jodie Whittaker was excellent in the role. However, I now now feel as I have been cynically ‘suckered in’ – as we are now going at full speed into Operation Rosa Parkes !! So….end of the road for me and I suspect many more viewers who genuinely gave the BBC the benefit of the doubt . Such a shame and , as the Who famously sang, ‘won’t get fooled again’


    • Fedup2 says:

      Hillbear – I’m with you on that – gave the first tedious episode a go then couldn’t take any more .
      She plays dr who a bit bloky but dr who is a chap . God knows what Terry Nation would think.


  19. Kaiser says:

    more muzzie love we are so cool

    female muzzie motorcyclists


    actually as thats a 125 you are at best a trainee motorcyclist

    come back to us when you’ve had a real bike


  20. Fedup2 says:

    The snowflakes on twitter are making a big deal of a male sex offender self identifying as a female being sent to a woman’s prison are guess what ? Yep indecent assault / rape


    I think an incident like that symbolises the kind of times we are living in . Common sense went out of the door years ago .


    • Oldspeaker says:

      Makes one truly despair doesn’t it? A few of Whites known crimes,
      “exposed herself near a children’s playground”
      “indecently assault and commit gross indecency with two boys aged nine and 12”
      “went on to rape a pregnant woman”
      What did they think would happen ffs?


  21. Fedup2 says:

    Up – I sometimes think it’s because English is not her first language . I’ve heard her speak in her own language and the speed of her speech increases a lot . In English she really does sound like the work experience girl … the foreign face of al beeb .


  22. vlad says:

    Cobra crisis meeting:

    – What shall we do about the code red terror threat level?

    – I know, why don’t we release a fanatical islamist, known supporter of terror, militant jihadi and sharia advocate, who despises our country and seeks its destruction, and jail a true patriot who opposes people like him?

    – Sounds like a plan to me!


  23. taffman says:

    Al Beeb tells us that “EU court orders Poland to halt court retirements law”
    It also tells us that “No-deal Brexit could hit food supplies, says Stena Line”

    The prolonged dragged out negotiations are merely to allow the Mrs Chamberlain and her media propaganda team more time to work .


  24. Dover Sentry says:

    Why is it sooo continually news-worthy to the BBC if an unknown Arab journalist dies in an Arab diplomatic premises in a Muslim country?

    There are those who say that its simply because of the word ‘journalist’?

    Such self-important egos.

    Meanwhile in Huddersfield, Rotherham, Rochdale, Peterborough, Oxford and many towns elsewhere…..


  25. fakenewswatcher says:

    Have we always had such third-rate, low-level, dishonest, half-wit politicians in charge, or is this merely a symptom of our dystopian present?
    Look at the MPs at the march of the mindless. Look at the (deliberately?) bungled Brexit negotiations. Look at who’s waiting and ‘ready for government’ should this lot fail.
    If Treezer, Sadiq and Hammond go, we can have Corbyn, Abbott and Starmer. Great, just great.
    I would like to think it couldn’t have happened without the complicity of the media. And the arch underminers among them have sent me a little brown envelope demanding big money for their services.
    Maybe if I could have a new set of political faces to look at with my news bulletins, definitely none of the above-mentioned, almost anyone else would do, I’d pay up?


  26. pugnazious says:

    LOL…The Scottish national socialists are upset….

    From The Guardian….

    ‘Nicola Sturgeon has pulled out of a conference being jointly hosted by the BBC next month after learning that Donald Trump’s former strategist Steve Bannon had been invited to take part.

    Scotland’s first minister said that allowing Bannon to freely express his opinions risked “legitimising or normalising far-right, racist views”.

    She was also critical of the BBC for an attempt to justify Bannon’s inclusion at the three-day News Xchange event in Edinburgh on 13 November in an email sent to her office.’

    Did enjoy this as Bannon is compared to Pol Pot, Che Guevara, Ho Chi Minh, Stalin, Mussolini and Hitler ….not sure the BBC be too happy about the Che Guevara comparison….

    ‘In a statement, the BBC said Bannon had been invited on behalf of the European Broadcasting Union’s (EBU) News Xchange committee.

    The statement added: “Good journalism in a world of fake news and disinformation is more vital than ever. Journalism is about asking tough questions and understanding what is happening in the world and why.

    “A conference designed to analyse the big issues impacting that world isn’t an endorsement of anyone or anything – it is a function of what journalism is.”

    The event’s organiser, the EBU, said Bannon was a “key influencer” in the rise of populism.

    “We also consider it our journalistic responsibility to share and scrutinise a range of relevant viewpoints within the framework of a balanced debate,” a spokesperson added.’


  27. pugnazious says:

    Good old Jobby…James O’Brien….he must be that place where all the crap spews forth from…right between the two cheeks…..

    What did the BBC ever see in this guy? Oh yes, a hatchet job on Farage was his entry to the BBC.


  28. scribblingscribe says:


    (if someone knows how to post this link as a picture, I will be grateful – rarely works for me)

    The burly bloke in between the two women is the new world champion in the women’s 35-44 sprint during the UCI Masters Track Cycling World Championships in Los Angeles on Sunday.

    Rachel Mckinnon self identifies as a woman. Not sure many others would identify him, er her, as a woman. To the rest of the world he, er she, is a bloke.

    Clearly cyclist Jennifer Wagner is awaiting a visit from the hate crime police, as she finished third and said “It’s definitely NOT fair.”

    No Jennifer it isn’t. But Stalinist thought police disagree, thus you Jenifer, and 99% of the world are wrong.



  29. Synchronised says:

    What really p!*^×# me off is the likes of Sturgeon claiming they believe passionately in free speech yet the truth is the complete opposite. These B list politicians, celebrities and broadcaster’s seem to think if they say they are the defender’s of free speech they can hide behind such statements with a clear conscious when their actions actually provide proof of the opposite. Coverage of Tommy Robinson here and Lauren Southern abroad has provided clear evidence that the MSM has lost all credibility by going along with this charade. Denial of the truth by way of not listening to other people’s concerns or opinions is our current liberal medias greatest failing and our state broadcaster is the biggest culprit.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Sturgeon leads a national socialist government which seeks to control every aspect of Scottish life, from cradle to grave.

      And she thinks someone else is the fascist!


  30. taffman says:

    Sounds are cominng in that Mrs Chamberlain is on her way out? Will Al Beeb support her ? Will a trail of an anti Brexit propaganda conspiracy lead to the cabinet?


  31. Roland Deschain says:

    This is what passes for news at the BBC these days:


    • Oldspeaker says:

      The spell casting to be broadcast as a special feature on songs of praise mayhap? And just how the, ahem, hell does “Dakota Bracciale, co-owner of Catland Books” have a hotline to the bbc?


      • Guest Who says:

        She and Katty are BFFs and are flying over Emily M to stir things up.

        Hope the peroxide supplies hold out.


  32. Fedup2 says:

    Al beeb morning news

    Winner of the London festival

    1A Nigerian film about sex slavery

    2 A film about a trandgender girl who wants to be a ballerina

    3 race relations in the southern US of A

    4 a film about a blogger called Fedup2 starring George clooney as Fedup2 and Kate beckinsale as the love interest

    ( one of these may be false needs concocted by the sane Russian bot which won the brexit vote )


  33. taffman says:

    March ?
    March of all the LibDems . Simples.


  34. Englands Dreaming says:

    I have been watching a few Steve Bannon interviews, the guy has clear arguments (which you can agree or disagree with) and an excellent command of facts and data. I have not heard him say anything that could be considered in any way racialist. In other words an impressive performer, coupled with a sense of humour makes him a formidable debating opponent.
    Perhaps this is the real reason wee Jimmy Kranky doesnt want to be on the same platform as SB.

    Sturgeon boycotts event in far-right row


    • Kaiser says:

      if your interested in the welfare of the little guy and the indigenous population

      you are now far right, amazing


    • Fedup2 says:

      Think cranky would be scared of mr banning because he is not English and her doing the ‘ braveheart’ act won’t discomfort an America .

      And of course braveheart has directed by an anti English anti Semitic drunk .


    • Banania says:

      One of Bannon’s best debates was with “Zanny” something of the Economist. It is on You Tube.


  35. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2018-10-21 BBC News – Papers.

    Daily Mail Headline
    “PM FACES “SHOW TRIAL” BY TORY MPS” “And one senior plotter shockingly twlls her ‘bring your own noose'”
    Similar headlines in other papers shown by the BBC.

    I do hope the May bitch is unhorsed.
    Then a real Brexit is achieved and the EU is told to Foxtrot Oscar and given nothing.

    But show trial is actually an inaccurate description. In the 1920s and 1930s Soviet show trials, those who were judged had committed many serious crimes. But in the Show Trials their only crime was to upset Stalin.

    A Post Brexit Royal Commission should investigate all potential crimes associated with plots to defer or stop Brexit.
    May, Robbins, Greive and all conspirators must receive life imprisonment, no parole.


    • gb123 says:

      Quote from Wikipedia: “A show trial is a public trial in which the judicial authorities have already determined the guilt of the defendant. The actual trial has as its only goal the presentation of both the accusation and the verdict to the public so they will serve as both an impressive example and a warning to other would-be dissidents or transgressors. Show trials tend to be retributive rather than corrective and they are also conducted for propagandistic purposes. The term was first recorded in the 1930s”

      Doesn’t that sound a little like what is intended to happen on Tues at the Old Bailey?

      I think Mrs C will get far better treatment from the media and her brown nosing clingons (sorry Cabinet MPs).


      • Fedup2 says:

        I’m guessing that if fewer turn out for TR the show trial will go ahead but if there is a big crowd they’ll find a reason for putting it off again .
        Fair trial? Abuse of process springs to mind – particularly with the original pakistani Muslim paedophile trials are suddenly made public .
        Once the Judiciary in Blighty are clearly shown to be politically biased toward the left – as a result of Blair politicising the lawyers and police we can safely avoid the judicial system –
        Which – personally – I’ve seen as self serving £££ anyway – covered by arcane processes , freemasonary ,dumb traditions and now corruption – which al beeb will never challenge as it is part of it .


    • G says:

      “… their only crime was to upset Stalin.”
      That’s sharia for you…………..


  36. G says:

    Migrants from Honduras: were stuck on a bridge between Mexico and its neighbour, Guatemala. Some turned back, others took to rafts and small boats to break into Mexico. Meanwhile, the, “AID AGENCIES” (yes, them again – and we all know what they do!), give assistance to those stuck in limbo. That wouldn’t be building rafts for the, ‘Migrants’ would it? Stinks of Soros and his Open Foundation……….
    UN, Soros, NWO (and their acolytes): Evil


    • Doublethinker says:

      The way to deal with this and at the same time to deal with the leftist loonies who inhabit California is to let as many invaders as want to come into that state and don’t ever let em out again, unless they want a one way ticket home. Of course also never let them become registered voters. Within a few years most of the white population of California will have fled. Infact white flight is becoming increasingly common already. But that sums up lefty liberals , they want to ruin your life by importing third worlders but they don’t want to have to live alongside them.


  37. StewGreen says:

    Adonis is on the Nigel Farage show
    Adonis talks all over Farage

    NF “So you opposed a referendum all the time you were government,
    and now that you lost one , suddenly you are all for new referendums”

    NF “Adonis do you accept we voted to leave”
    Adonis “Em , em em, em”
    NF “So you can’t accept we voted to leave ?”
    .. I switched off


  38. Doublethinker says:

    The current state of censorship in this country is well illustrated this week end by reports in the Times about the Huddersfield Muslim rape gang and one about Tommy Robinson. In both cases no comments from reAders are allowed. This is unusual in the Times which, unlike the BBC , allows comments on almost all its stories . Mind you it does censor some , I know from personal experience, and it puts other in what is now humourously referred to by posters as ‘pending purgatory ‘ where they can remain for up to 12 hours. I also suspect that they sometimes minimise likes from the readership of comments which go against the editorial stance of the newspaper. There is no doubt that just like the BBC on issues such as immigration, Islam, Brexit and Globalism the editorial stance of the paper is at odds with those readers who comment.


    • NameNotNumber says:

      ‘This is a historic moment, and I want to speak and stand by my convictions. So I’m going to stand up in court and read a statement … that tells the truth about Islam … I’d rather go to jail for the next 25 years than accept guilt for telling the truth … I am going to lay the gauntlet down to the government. … When you read what I’m going to say in court, I’m calling all of them out … I know 100% I am going to jail.’
      Tommy Robinson

      ‘The truth! But it is just the truth that cannot be known of the multitude, for truth is revolutionary.’
      From “The Great Conspiracy”, the title of a 1912 article from a periodical favouring women’s suffrage called “The Vote: The Organ of the Women’s Freedom League” edited by Charlotte Despard*.

      It sounds as if Charlotte Despard was a bit of a ‘conspiracy theorist’ … but time has proved tthat truth was on her side. I wonder whose side the Times and the BBC would have been on in 1912 and how much truth they will be reporting on Tuesday?



  39. Guest Who says:

    NO swooning at the back, girls.


  40. pugnazious says:

    Obama sells £100 billion worth of arms to Saudi Arabia, blocks legislation allowing US families to sue Saudi Arabia for 9/11, Obama blocks release of 9/11 files for as long as possible and Clinton’s bank account overflows with Saudi cash and her top aide is a Saudi, the Saudis have been detaining, torturing and killing opponents, political and religious, for decades and yet….

    Apparently Donald J. Trump killed Jamal Khashoggi inside the Saudi Consulate in Turkey because he gave the Saudis licence to suddenly become human rights abusers. Who knew?

    According to the BBC and MI6. Maybe.

    ‘Sir John Sawers, the former head of the UK’s foreign intelligence service MI6, told the BBC’s World at One: “The level of detail that’s coming out from Turkish security sources is so clear and so damning that some form of tape must exist.” [Why does no-one mention the obvious…the Turks were bugging the Saudi Consulate?]

    “All the evidence points to [the killing] being ordered and carried out by people close to [Saudi Crown Prince] Mohammed bin Salman,” he said.

    “I don’t think he would have done this if he hadn’t thought he had license from the US administration to frankly behave as he wishes to do so,” he added. ‘

    Donald Trump gave the Saudis a ‘licence to kill’. How? Er…it’s pure speculation, no, not even speculation…it’s outright lying. There’s no evidence of Trump giving Saudi Arabia carte blanche to carry out abuses towards journalists let alone kill them. This is an attempt to put Trump in the frame by people who has a record of attacking Trump…

    ‘Former MI6 chief on Trump’s ‘worse scenario”

    ‘Former MI6 boss condemns Trump’s Twitter diplomacy with Russia amid Syria crisis’

    ‘Former MI6 boss: America’s declining global leadership under Trump is ‘biggest menace to the world”

    And of course the latest attempt to knock Trump….

    ‘“I think President Trump and his ministerial team are waking up to just how dangerous it is to have people acting with a sense that they have impunity in their relationship with the United States,” Sawers said.’

    Is the BBC biased? has been following the journalist no-one will kill because he’s completely useless, John Sweeney. He has launched his own attack on Trump claiming he is a threat to journalists much as Farage has ‘blood on his hands’ #duetobrexit…even though this was an outright lie from Sweeney.

    Here he is on Trump and the Saudis…

    ‘ “What if Trump gets elected?”, I asked. Wayne replied”, I’m afraid.I’m very afraid”.
    My old hero was right. The leader of the Free World has demonised journalists time and again, and now, the world over, the butcher’s bill is being paid. If you’re a troublemaking reporter it’s time to be afraid. ‘

    ‘Demonised journalists’? Trump has pointed out the blatantly obvious…so many journalists just cannot be trusted, Sweeney a perfect case in point. How about the 90% of the media that is violently anti-Trump and which has encouraged, given licence to and incited actual attacks on Trump, Republicans and Trump voters? Not a sound from the BBC and Sweeney.

    But who, if anyone, gave Saudi Arabia ‘licence’ to act in the way they do?

    Not as if killing or detaining journalists and dissenters is a new thing for the Saudis. It’s been going on for years…but where was the sound and fury?

    Sweeney oddly misses out a President or two…

    ‘The House of Saud is built on a sea of oil. Whoever holds the Crown has the key to unimaginable wealth and that has brought the ruling houses of the United States to Riyadh’s door time and time again. First, the House of Bush, and now, the House of Trump.

    Clinton and Obama were all over it right?….

    From 2014:
    ‘Saudi Arabia Cracks Down On ‘Peaceful Dissent,’ Sentences Journalist To Five Years In Prison’

    From March 2016:
    ‘Saudi Arabia declares all atheists are terrorists in new law to crack down on political dissidents’

    From Amnesty International:

    ‘The authorities severely restricted freedoms of expression, association and assembly. Many human rights defenders and critics were detained and some were sentenced to lengthy prison terms after unfair trials. Several Shi’a activists were executed, and many more were sentenced to death following grossly unfair trials before the Specialized Criminal Court (SCC). Torture and other ill-treatment of detainees remained common. Despite limited reforms, women faced systemic discrimination in law and practice and were inadequately protected against sexual and other violence. The authorities used the death penalty extensively, carrying out scores of executions. The Saudi-led coalition continued to commit serious violations of international law in Yemen.’

    From the 1990’s:

    ‘Saudi Arabia: Religious intolerance: the arrest, detention and torture of Christian worshippers and Shi’a Muslims (includes correction)

    Saudi Arabia: death penalty: Oswaldo Magdangal, Renato Posedio

    22 December 1992, Index number: MDE 23/005/1992

    International news agencies have reported that two men, Oswaldo Magdangal and Renato Posedio, are to be beheaded on 25 December 1992. Both appear to have been arrested because of their active role in the Christian community in Saudi Arabia. AI is not aware of the official charges laid against them but there are allegations that the two were charged with blasphemy.’

    So remind me how Trump has given licence to Saudia Arabia to act contrary to human rights’ legislation?

    Who if anyone did that? BBC line is ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell.’….who approved $100 billions worth of arms sales to the Saudis?…

    ‘A day later, the U.S. Senate held a rare debate on the sale of arms destined for another war in the Middle East. The deal, for $1.15 billion in weaponry to Saudi Arabia, including over 150 Abrams tanks, is a drop in a bucket: more than $100 billion in arms sales to the kingdom have already been approved by the Obama administration. ‘

    Who vetoed a bill allowing US families to sue Saudi Arabia after 9/11?…

    ‘Congress overrides Obama’s veto of 9/11 bill letting families sue Saudi Arabia ‘

    And who is in the pay of the Saudis and has a Saudi as her top aide? Clinton.

    From the New York Times:

    ‘The kingdom of Saudi Arabia donated more than $10 million. Through a foundation, so did the son-in-law of a former Ukrainian president whose government was widely criticized for corruption and the murder of journalists. A Lebanese-Nigerian developer with vast business interests contributed as much as $5 million.
    Saudi Arabia has been a particularly generous benefactor. The kingdom gave between $10 million and $25 million to the Clinton Foundation. (Donations are typically reported in broad ranges, not specific amounts.) At least $1 million more was donated by Friends of Saudi Arabia, which was co-founded by a Saudi prince.’

    Uncomfortable other links…just why did the BBC refuse to look at the contents of the Clinton emails and instead concentrated on trying to link the hack to Trump/Russia? Funny they missed the real story…..

    ‘Wealthy officials from Qatar and Saudi Arabia who donated money to Hillary Clinton’s charitable foundation also provided financial support to Isis, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has claimed. Mr Pilger asked if Mr Assange believed that “this notorious jihadist group, called Isil or Isis, is created largely with money from people who are giving money to the Clinton Foundation”
    In the email sent on August 17 2014, Ms Clinton asked Mr Podesta, who at that time worked under president Barack Obama, to help put “pressure” on Qatar and Saudi Arabia regarding the countries’ alleged support for the terrorist group Isis. “We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to Isil and other radical Sunni groups in the region,” Ms Clinton wrote…..According to the Clinton Foundation, the Saudi Arabian government has donated between $10m (£8m) and $25million since the foundation was set up in 1997. Last month it was reported the government of Qatar offered to donate $1m to the foundation in celebration of Bill Clinton’s birthday.’

    And yet it is Trump who has given licence to the Saudis? BBC wants to try a bit harder to give the real context to this story.


  41. theisland says:


  42. BRISSLES says:

    Just endured the first 10 minutes of SML. I thought I was watching CBBC. These are adults, yet they were all giggling away like kids. A ‘supposed’ female comedian (really ?), and a maths teacher, discussing with the presenters……… the intended cost of retrieving lost property from BR, followed by a conversation on Kleenex Mansize tissues ( I cant understand why has no-one suggested that men have bigger noses !!!!).

    This is the level that has been reached on Sunday morning BBC. Where do I go to hear some serious debating on serious issues, because I cant stand this giggly generation of hosting (One Show ?) that seems to permeate our channels now. Driving me nuts.


    • G says:

      Pull out altogether. Much more consistently interesting stuff on YouTube than at ANY part of the BBC’s past. Importantly, you view what you want. It’s not sickness shoved down your throat.


  43. pugnazious says:

    History…a movable feast.

    The BBC’s archives are clearly in great disorder. All political, social, economic disasters to befall Britain only occured after the election of the Tories in May 2010…previous to that there was the Great Nakba of the Thatcher years…curiously all records have been lost between 1997and 2010.

    All racism and nastiness ony began in 2016 post Brexit referendum, pre this time the nation was a rainbow loveliness of multiculturalism and cosy diversity where everybody lived happily together.

    And the Middle East? The BBC usually likes to avoid context and history where it is inconvenient and when it contradicts their narrative such as Saudi Arabia being an enlightened, human rights paradise until Trump got elected. With reporting on the Middle East the BBC suddenly finds it loves history, context and narrative. Problems in Gaza, Palestinians languishing in poverty, Islamic terrorism rife across the world, dictators and despots aplenty? It’s the West’s fault and of course no report is complete without it being wrapped up with a casualty list of innocent Palestinians murdered by Israelis.

    The BBC is more than happy to sift through the history books and cherrypick whatever it needs to back up its line that Britain, and the Jews, are responisble for most of the ills in the M/E. The Balfour Declaration, Sykes/Picot, the creation of Israel, the Iraq War…all carefully repackaged and shaped to suit the BBC narrative whilst avoiding the inconvenient truths and complexities of that history. A last resort is the fallback of the Crusades…vicious Christians attacking peaceful Muslims living in their own lands with its echoes and repercussions that resonate today!!!…never mind the Muslims conquered those lands, imposed their religion and were busy raiding, pillaging and robbing Christian pilgrims to Jerusalem which was the actual catalyst for the Crusades. I’m sure we can find a BBC report that pins the whole Middle East thing on Jesus and Christianity.

    For the BBC history is a flexible resource unlimited by the need for facts or faithful interpretation…as one of the most powerful media gatekeepers with a massive, omnipresent dominance of Historical resources the BBC is in a position to rewrite history at will and it has the time to do this. Like the Taliban it can wait.

    This is not the BBC’s editorial guideline….

    “The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ,
    Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
    Shall lure it back to cancel half a Line,
    Nor all thy Tears wash out a Word of it.”


  44. Dave666 says:

    https://www.radiotimes.com/tv-programme/e/g546cj/doctor-who–s11-e3-rosa/ Dr. Who + Rosa Parks. Mmmmmmm. Of course as usual I shan’t be watching. I will be hoping for an unlikely Ferrari victory on Channel 4


    • Annunaki says:

      The continuing adventures of Dr Bint and her efnik crew, how many scratches and dents on the Tardis now ?

      Has she taken Planet Gallifrey to court for discrimination for calling her a Time Lord yet ?


    • ID says:

      Have just read a blurb for the latest episode – something about an encounter with a seamstress by the name of Rosa Parks and begining to wonder whether someone is attempting to change history. You have to giggle. The only malign entity in the universe attempting to change history I know of is the BBC. All those anachronisms in BBC “drama” series.
      What messages will the masses get tonight? I shudder to think.
      Maybe the moral dilemma of realising that if Rosa Parks is killed, the time line changes and Trump never becomes president. QED


  45. BRISSLES says:

    For those of a certain age, and for those who cannot understand the current crop of “comic” movies, there is a cult movie on Talking Pictures tonight. ‘The Day The Earth Caught Fire’ , a good film and worth a watch !


  46. Zelazek says:

    Poor “analysis” of the unsavoury incident between Man U’s Mourinho and Chelsea coach Marco Ianni on MOTD. The fundamental problem is that English football is no longer full of imperturbable English gentlemen but hot-headed Mediterranean types.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Having been a regular at prem and championship games around the country – fans are often subjected to stewards who are brutal in the implementation of ground rules . The manu manager would have been thrown out if he was a fan . Factv


  47. nogginator says:

    Off of the BBC main news page, now off the England page you can still find it if you switch to regions and then look under Yorkshire news. Mind you they had to make room for the, “Fire at a derelict boat house in Bristol”
    Yep! priorities
    So why now bother with the editorial?
    Next stunt they ll pull, the “thank god we were here” because the trial was almost derailed by (boo hiss, far right) T Robinson
    kop this
    “BBC Home Editor Mark Easton
    Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale, Derby, Banbury, Telford, Peterborough, Aylesbury, Bristol, Halifax, Keighley, Newcastle… now Huddersfield. The list seems endless… and there will almost certainly be more.

    The sexual abuse of vulnerable children in English towns by groups of men, often from immigrant communities, is an incarnation of a wider scandal that is dominating our news and overwhelming our police and our courts.

    It is a crime that until recently was rarely discussed in public. Child sexual abuse was often ignored or covered up: the protection of institutional reputation or community cohesion put before the protection of children. The grooming gangs of provincial England tend to operate where the disinfectant of public scrutiny struggles to reach – poorer neighbourhoods on the edge of town, around the mini-cab ranks and fast food joints, the twilight zones of urban life.

    Child abuse thrives in such dark corners, where people look the other way, not asking questions or following concerns because the subject matter is uncomfortable and scrutiny is potentially damaging. But when we look, we find”

    People who ignore, eh … who erm. “look the other way”
    the BBC looking in the mirror?


    • StewGreen says:

      So what’s Yvonne Ridley think ?

      Antifa are mobilising to be there
      I was on Twitter just now checking on the photo out of the window situation.
      (from what I see a female lawyer also photo’d from the same window before Ezra did
      and in the Lee Rigby trial, court staff were also spotted taking photos of the crowd from windows of the court)
      Anyways I am seeing antifa saying they are organising to be there on Tuesday
      And stuff like this Yvonne Ridley Tweet which was suspiciously sent from 3 other accounts at the same time.


    • StewGreen says:

      Maybe someone can ask the police commissioner if the rule about photos in the Old Bailey building is rigorously enforced ?


      • StewGreen says:

        According to a response to the PseudoBarrister, 4 barristers took photos from similar windows to Ezra Levant of the crowd supporting Tommy on that day.
        I notice that neither the PseudoBarrister nor his/her baying mob calling for the jailing of Ezra responded to that guys tweets that ended the discussion.

        That’s how you tell the libMob are on the wrong side
        ..they were on twitter screaming for the jailing of Ezra for taking a photo of a crowd
        ..they event contacted the CPS and police
        Yet when it comes to groom/rape gangs their enthusiasm is a much lower level.


  48. Annunaki says:

    Whoever Ridley is, maybe she should try being stripped naked, tied to a bed then whipped, called a filthy white slut then gang raped by 20 pakis one after another day after day after day because that is what happened to one 12 year old girl who has written an autobiography about it
    Oh and they had special days when head paki would make her and a 10 year old girl perform on him, and the REAL motivation for all this ? apart from their natural sick, perverse, anti women nature ? is that those they prey on are without exception NON MUSLIMS WHO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO TREAT LIKE SHIT, THAT IS THE REASON with their stinking imam claiming benefits in this country whispering in their ears its OK they are kuffirs do what you like

    Islamophobia NO !!! : phobia is an irrrational fear, this fear of these evil perverts is completely and utterly rational based on sound evidence from around the country

    ISBN: 978 1 78606 513 1


  49. G says:

    I reported here earlier this morning that Soros & Co. was probably financing the migrant “caravan” from Honduras. I have just spotted this video on YouTube.

    In it, we see fillmed footage of people handing out cash to the ‘migrants’. It is claimed these are Soros’ Diciples. The enemy appears no longer to lanquish behind the illusion of respectability. Goes for his (‘they’ including the UN, NWO et al) diciples such as Treezer/Macron/Merkel also.


  50. Rich says:

    I see on the national news that a ferry has reversed into a couple of yachts in foggy weather around the Isle of Wight. No deaths, no serious injuries. News on the South Coast perhaps, but national news?

    They interviewed a passenger and described him as an “Eyewitness”. This bloke was below deck, heard a crunch while the ferry was reversing and assumed it had hit the jetty. He heard and assumed. He didn’t actually see anything. Churlish and a bit pedantic of me maybe, but he’s not an effin’ “Eyewitness” bBBC.


    • Annunaki says:

      LOL well spotted, but all the journalists have done their equality, diversity and inclusion courses and he probably did not want to be discriminatory against whatever whatever just fill in the f’cking blanks…..


    • StewGreen says:

      actually the 10 am news reported they thought they could here voices in the water, so they thought they’d run over occupied yachts and search parties were out.
      So that is news worth reporting.


      • Rich says:

        Yes, if that was the case you’d be right Stew. I only caught it in passing this evening when I don’t think this was mentioned.


      • StewGreen says:

        Annunaki’s reply is over the page so I repost it here.

        SG, actually you slightly miss the point, hearing is one thing seeeing is
        … oh God I give up I am at risk of being sensist or whatever,
        maybe you are one of those that support BBC2 CH4 to have a gurning signist at the side of the TV screen that you canot turn off, I have no issue for those that want this but to have no choice for those that find it offputting ?
        like those that drive around and around a carpark to find a place to park despite 20 or 30 empty parking spaces for disabled and children unused I could go on but…

        #1 My reply was to NOT you, it was to Rich’s first point “but national news?”

        #2 Witness or eyewitness ..it’s no big deal if journos use the wrong word occasionally
        No he was only a witness to the sound of the collision NOT an eyewitness.
        But he was an “eyewitness” to the SITUATION on board the ship during the collision and the aftermath.