687 Responses to Midweek 12 January 2022

  1. MarkyMark says:


    – from order-order.com


  2. taffman says:

    “Downing Street has apologised to Buckingham Palace for two staff parties in No 10 the night before Prince Philip’s funeral.”

    All this while the rest of this great nation were subject to lockdowns etc .
    We were all suffering while this was going on. We have a ‘rotten parliament’ made up of two parties.
    But, there are others, UKIP and The Reform Party , both avoided by Al Beeb and the
    MSM because they are BREXIT Parties.
    Think outside the box.


  3. MarkyMark says:

    Christine Lee: Labour MP Barry Gardiner says Chinese agent ‘gained no political advantage’ from him
    In an exclusive interview with Sky News, Brent North MP Barry Gardiner denies he feels “a fool” following the revelation that Christine Lee – who donated hundreds of thousands of pounds to him – has been engaged in “political interference activities”.

    ‘gained no political advantage’ = he was not a functioning MP and had no value to the UK as well.

    China denied the spying allegations late on Thursday night, saying it had “no need” to “buy influence” in any foreign parliament.

    Asked by Sky News chief political correspondent Jon Craig if he ever discussed Labour policy with Ms Lee, Mr Gardiner replied: “No, not in great detail, no.”



  4. Fedup2 says:

    Meanwhile Reuters reports a massive cyber attack on Ukraine and more russian troops at the border .

    If / when the shooting war starts i really hope UK stays away from it . At least our military is so diminished that it wont be able to do much .

    Does make you wonder why Putin hasn’t gone for it since the talks broke down …

    Ive looked at the running order for the TV licencing bill today . At 1300 they are on bill number 2 of the session . The TVL bill is up at number 8 so i reckon a few hours yet .


    • taffman says:

      The present so called ‘government’ has diminished our military. I understand that the British Army is now smaller than it was during the Napoleonic Wars.
      At the same time our Home Office has opened the doors to over 28000 ‘people’ of unknown intentions .
      What incompetence!


  5. Fedup2 says:

    I remember someone saying that the problem with having a big military is that it has a habit of going looking for fights . China is probably heading that way as well as Russia – although of course – speaking as an armchair warrior – mere numbers of men or kit isn’t everything …..

    Will putin take on Obama /Biden ? Or do one of those ‘not war – not peace ‘ jobs using Russian forces without uniforms again ? Poland said yesterday that things are ‘touchier ‘ than the last 30 years ….
    ….meanwhile the UK concerns itself with parties and princes …


  6. Guest Who says:


    • Guest Who says:

      Until this moment, I was unaware of this.

      Seems pertinent.


    • StewGreen says:

      BTW there is a grey area cos if someone says, there was some event inside “Number 10”
      Boris can argue, the “Number 10 flat is where the chancellor lives.
      Prime minsters have lived at Number 11 for some time.

      Downing St has 90 to 100 rooms yes
      8000 staff ?
      ie almost 100 onsite staff per room
      That doesn’t seem possible.


      • Thoughtful says:

        The Cabinet office has 8000 staff spread across several offices, this is where the confusion has arisen. The invitation to the drinks party was addressed to 100 people.


  7. Guest Who says:

    Reminds me of a certain 2iC here.


    At least she is still only sobbing away powerlessly.

    If giving The BBC endless claim fuel.

    Odd The BBC, here very concerned about incumbent performance levels, in the USA is hands off to the point of being absent.


  8. StewGreen says:

    What eas Boris’s specific lie about parties at Downing Street ?
    I can believe he lies every day
    and everyone says he lied about parties.
    But I can’t find the specific sentences

    AFAIK Dec 1st Starmer stands up at PMQs after the Daily Mirror
    and says Boris was hosting illegal BOOZY Christmas parties.
    (“boozy parties” must be a Labour line the media run with)

    Yet ultimately the accusation is Boris must have known Civil servants had organised parties even though he himself was not boozing away.

    Starmer by using an embellished line
    makes it easy for Boris, to think he shouldn’t confess to something he didn’t do.
    AFAIK Boris didn’t give firm denials but just said “guidance was followed”
    So all he is stating is that he didn’t have awareness of any illegal events.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Maybe one of the Sunday papers will have the ‘leak’ which finishes him off in the court of Public Opinion …

      …behind the scenes there must be plenty of ‘spads’ updating their CV s …


    • StewGreen says:

      Starmer’s indoor boozing in Durham with his staff
      was exactly 2 weeks after the Number 10 leaving do, on Friday 30th April 2021


      • MarkyMark says:

        ‘Absolute hypocrite!’ Keir Starmer savaged after lockdown drinking picture re-surfaces
        SIR KEIR STARMER has been branded “an absolute hypocrite” for attacking Boris Johnson for illegal parties in No10 despite pictures of him drinking with colleagues during lockdown.
        08:21, Fri, Jan 14, 2022


        • Thoughtful says:

          The whole thing is insane! If he had a cup of coffee or a soft drink it would be OK but a bottle of beer isn’t ?


    • JohnC says:

      Same as Trump never told people to inject disinfectant.

      The Left – and particularly the BBC – lie as easily as tell the truth. They really don’t think there is anything wrong with it if it is helping their agenda.


  9. Fedup2 says:

    For those following the Bill to abolish the TV licence and make the BBC a subscription service – it has been put over to the 21st of January –
    But in real life I see it going nowhere . It is a long long fight …


  10. pugnazious says:

    ‘MICK HUME: Whatever you think of Boris, the BBC’s obsessive campaign to destroy him is a disgrace’

    ‘What’s worse than listening to Boris Johnson trying to talk his way out of the ‘Partygate’ scandal?

    To my mind, it’s listening to the BBC’s obsessive, gleeful campaign to weaponise the story in its long-running propaganda war against the Prime Minister.

    I am not concerned with defending Mr Johnson here.

    As Boris acknowledged in his apology in Parliament, many people will rightly feel ‘rage’ about the revelation that he attended a drinks party in the Downing Street garden during the 2020 lockdown when his Government was imposing punitive restrictions on the rest of us.

    But whatever anybody thinks of Boris or his future, that is no excuse for the all-consuming, one-sided enmity with which our national broadcaster has pursued him.

    In its reporting of this week’s drama, the BBC has once again confirmed its role as the Boris Bashing Corporation.

    Which might seem unfortunate timing, given that the Government’s review of the future of the licence fee is taking place this month.

    The Boris-bashing was led from Salford by Nick Robinson, a contemporary of Johnson’s at Oxford University.

    It was Robinson, remember, who in October had ordered Boris to ‘Stop talking!’ even though the Prime Minister had agreed to appear on the Today programme for the first time in two years.

    Yesterday morning, Robinson began by informing listeners that ‘what some are calling “Operation Save Boris” has been launched’. He then spent the next three hours doing his utmost to scupper any such operation.

    He repeatedly sneered at the Prime Minister’s apology in Parliament:‘… if, that is, he really did apologise’; ‘… whose apology, if it really was an apology’; ‘… which is not an apology at all’.

    This surely went beyond what could be considered objective journalism.

    Far from being impartial, Robinson was editorialising at every opportunity, the tone always scathing or sarcastic — to the point where one could almost hear him rubbing his hands with glee during each dramatic pause in his diatribe.

    The news headlines stressed that ‘pressure was growing’ among Conservatives for Johnson to resign, although they could seemingly find only four — or later, five — Tory MPs to back their claim.

    Through all of this, the Today programme was following the lead set the previous night by the BBC’s News at Ten, which opened its bulletins with Labour leader Keir Starmer’s (rather pathetic) response to Johnson’s apology, and followed up with a series of declarations about Boris standing ‘exposed’ and ‘defeated’, dressed up as news reports.

    Since he became PM, they have not missed an opportunity to try to talk down Boris’s Britain as some sort of fantasy hellhole.

    Now the Corporation has the nerve to pose as the self-appointed voice of the people over ‘Partygate’. As Nick Robinson almost shouted at the Northern Ireland Secretary: ‘What most people think, Mr Lewis, is that he’s apologising that he got caught!’

    This remarkable ability to know and echo ‘what most people think’ did not apparently bother the BBC news wonks when 17.4 million voted to Leave the EU in 2016, or when 14 million voted for Boris’s Tories in 2019.

    Fashionably woke prejudices seem institutionalised throughout the BBC.

    Ultimately, in a democracy, it must be up to voters to hold the Prime Minister and the Government to account for their actions and mistakes.

    The Boris Bashing Corporation, however, appears to have decided in advance that it always knows better than the rest of us what’s best for Britain.

    We shall soon see if Nadine Dorries, a Culture Secretary not averse to a fight, can finally hold it to account.’



    • Fedup2 says:

      Well – the Peter bone hill would be an ideal retaliation against the conduct of the BBC – I bet he’d have a majority if he wanted to rain it in a bit ….


  11. Guest Who says:

    BBC feature him a lot for his views on things.


  12. Sluff says:

    ‘And now on BBC news, in the wake of coronavirus cases almost halving since last week, down to under 100,000 from 180,000, we’ll be talking to all the learned Professors we interviewed and asking them why their doom-laden worst case scenarios have singularly failed to happen’

    And then I woke up.

    Which is a pity because there is a genuine story to be told about how and why, with the quite light touch of plan B, unlike the Scottish and Welsh lockdowns, cases are falling rapidly.
    But such impartial analysis would be far far too muh for the Boris Bashing Corporation.


    • JohnC says:

      I wonder if the Bozo in SAGE who predicted 1,000,000 cases a day is still in a job.

      Of course he is.


  13. Zephir says:

    Erm… pot, kettle of colour ?

    Photo emerges of Sir Keir Starmer drinking a beer with staff last year when Covid rules were still in place

    Keir Starmer has been a vocal critic of Boris Johnson over Number 10 party row
    Senior Tories have now claimed the Labour leader is an ‘absolute hypocrite’
    They pointed to picture of Sir Keir drinking a beer with Labour staff last year



  14. Guest Who says:

    Depends on the broadcaster from whom they source their ‘news’.


    • Guest Who says:

      Jon has found his voice (not in Mandarin).


    • MarkyMark says:

      Sangita Myska
      Now: Freelance Radio & TV Presenter, Writer, Conference Host (DMs open). Was: BBC Award-Winning Senior News Correspondent, Presenter & Podcaster| one of the 93%
      London, Englandyoutu.be/2NI6eSK9hUgJoined January 2009



      President Trump’s 100 Days President Biden’s 0 Day 

      Dear Winston Smith in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth,

      You covered President Trump’s 100 Days and then produced a Beyond 100 Days to hold power to account.

      Why have you not done the same for President Biden to hold power to account?

      ‘Omission is the greatest form of lie.’ 


      Thank you again for contacting us,

      BBC Complaints Team


  15. Zephir says:

    You just cannot win with this lot, thery will moan and take offence at anything

    ‘This is one of the worst Vogue covers ever’: Magazine featuring nine African models is branded offensive for ‘fetishising’ them with lighting that hides their features and makes them ‘look like mannequins’

    British Vogue has revealed its February 2022 cover, featuring nine black women
    Issue celebrates rise of African models and talks those ‘redrawing the map’
    Edward said: ‘We need to ensure these girls last. We have to invest in them’
    Some fans have slammed the cover online, with some calling it ‘the worst ever’
    One wrote: ‘They gathered all of these beautiful women and decided not to use lighting properly? One can’t even identify who is who!’



  16. Guest Who says:

    He’s safe.


  17. Zephir says:

    And again:

    Cambridge University academic sparks backlash by calling Black professor ‘eloquent’

    Another Cambridge academic accused him of being dismissive



  18. Guest Who says:


    In Armstrong and Miller ww2 flyboy accents.

    “I say, Tim, this Joseph G. sounds just the ticket. And well rad… innit”


    • MarkyMark says:

      I am tendering my resignation because for some time past I have been conscious that I was wasting my own time and the public money on doing work that produces no result. I believe that in the present political situation the broadcasting of British propaganda to India is an almost hopeless task. Whether these broadcasts should be continued at all is for others to judge, but I myself prefer not to spend my time on them when I could be occupying myself with journalism which does produce some measureable effect. I feel that by going back to the normal work of writing and journalism I could be more useful than I am at present.

      I do not know how much notice of resignation I am supposed to give. The ‘Observer’ have again raised the project of my going to North Africa. This has to be approved by the War Office and may well fall through again, but I mention it in case I should have to leave at shorter notice than would otherwise be the case. I will in any case see to it that the programmes are arranged for some time ahead.

      Yours sincerely,

      Eric Blair.



  19. StewGreen says:

    Local ITV news : Sheffield Council CEO’s public apology
    Sheffield is a Labour Council
    The CEO a worker Kates Josephs
    had a leaving do from her job as The GOVT Director of COVID Taskforce

    No mention of crowds that were already drinking outside pubs from April 12th onwards

    Now cricketer Azeem Rafiq saying his family has had threats


    • StewGreen says:

      My error this second leaving do was at a completely different date to the other one in April 2021
      This one was Dec 17 2020 .


  20. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, in bbc ECU…


  21. Guest Who says:

    BBC North American Editorial Guidelines are clearly similar to BBC here guidelines.


  22. StewGreen says:

    ITV local news Amani Khan doing PRasNews for Foundation Earth
    who actually launched their Climate Traffic light labelling for food packets 6 months ago.

    Actually they launched it 6 months ago, but since there was a new Independentpaper article ITV are copying
    “Lets send the junior to Doncaster to interview bloke”


    • Kaiser says:

      man eats cow, cows eat grass, grass eats co2

      if cows dont eat grass , grass rots releases co2 back to atmosphere


  23. Guest Who says:

    A bbc hero.


  24. Guest Who says:

    The jokes write themselves.

    About university research, media, some men…

    And those who look at them.

    Seems the ‘Grande’ version covering the entire head would make anyone from Vile to Sleepy look less of a tool.

    Studies suggest.


  25. Guest Who says:

    If true, unsurprising.


    • harry142857 says:

      One of the twitter replies sums it up about CC.

      “She’s a f***ing cockroach”. 🤓👏❤️


  26. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news has Christina Pagel on
    cos she says it’s wrong to say that Covid might be slowing down

    5 minutes they did the stats
    “In our region every area is lower than 7 days ago
    and everywhere in Lincolnshire is below the national average”


  27. Guest Who says:

    Rather suspect they do.



  28. StewGreen says:

    May 25th 2020
    \\ Asked how he can countenance not resigning given the damage that has been done,
    Cummings says much of the anger is based on reports in the media which have not been true


  29. StewGreen says:

    Local BBC news falsely making out the East Yorkshire coastal erosion is caused by “sea level rise”

    Actual the coast is kind of artificial : tens of thousands of years ago seas deposited the material that built up these coastal cliffs
    what has happened for the last few thousand years is that the sea has been eroding the material it once deposited


    • JohnC says:

      The cliffs at Tunstall on the East Yorkshire coast (not far from where I grew up) have been eroding since I was a lad. Where it had the path, a gap, a football field and some rough ground, the cliff edge is now right up to the path.

      The BBC have realised since Brexit and Trump (especially Trump) they can get away with anything now and are running riot. They badly need reigning in : it’s just ridiculous.


      • Northern Voter says:

        Same as Aldborough, that’s the Yorkshire one, not the posh Suffolk one. Anyway, the rich brown earth falling off the cliffs from Whitby to Spurn point builds up further down the coast in Lincolnshire. When the Wash is full they’ll blame Climate change. Spurn Point has disappeared and reappeared numerous times.


        • Deborah says:

          Don’t forget there are several villages and even I think a town which over the past few hundred years ended up under the sea, several miles from what is East Riding shore. It is nothing to do with climate change.


          • JohnC says:

            They have a sign at Tunstall showing the historic villages which are now out at sea due to natural erosion.

            We live in a world of lies. And the Left with their agenda are the biggest liars of all because their ideology makes them believe the ends justify the means.

            Islamic terrorists murder innocent civilians for much the same reason.


          • Nibor says:

            And don’t forget the city of Dunwich which disappeared in the 11th century .


            • Philip_2 says:

              Rye, East Sussex
              Is an old smuggling port that is now two miles way from the sea shore… and when one is on the White Cliffs of Dover its also hard to imagine that this was the Sea-floor as its so high in parts. It erodes naturally revealing small sea fossils as does another famous place called Lyme Regis. Erosion is natural as is the east of the country falling into the sea and other parts rising above it. It has little to do with rising ocean levels which is scare mongering based on Climate projections by UNCOP26 Scientists as accurate as Professor Fergusson on deaths by Covid unless we all get vaccinated 18 times.


  30. Foscari says:

    Is everybody enjoying diversity night on the BBC this
    evening? My favourite moment up to now has not
    been watching Diversity dancing on the One Show.
    I think that the BBC 6PM national news takes top
    spot up to now . And especially seeing the virtuous
    British Pakistani cricketer telling us once again
    how he was” racially abused” by his Yorkshire team mates.
    Isn’t just a shame that this gentleman with some
    anti-Semitic tendencies is given so much time on the BBC.
    When the victims of the rape gang “cousins” of this
    cricketer are seldom even mentioned on the BBC? Well of
    course it’s a diverse culture. that us whities don’t understand.
    And although the young girls were racially abused. And
    all racial abuse is equal. So far as the BBC is concerned .
    Some racial abuse is more equal than others.


  31. Guest Who says:

    They win, no matter what.


  32. Northern Voter says:

    Mrs Voter was at the sick bay tiffs this morning, 0830 would you believe. I put the radio on in the car, I can only get Radio 4 and 5 here in Northern France. Some reporter was extolling the virtues of Arsenal gaining a draw with Liverpool in the Milk Cup. So he then introduces a goalkeeper who had played for both teams. Siobhan Chapman, WTF.


  33. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – the BBC are getting a bit over-confident perhaps?

    Some have written on this Thread and on this web-site in the past that ‘the Left’ are none too bright. And so it appears. Mark Drakeford has been trailed across the BBC News airwaves to try to explain that his approach to a Lockdown for Christmas and New Year was just right and Boris Johnson’s approach was just plain wrong. And this just when the BBC are trying to suggest today that Lockdowns were wrong and caused huge damage which they did – but who was calling for them? Yes, the Sucker in charge of the Labour Party.

    The BBC are trying to say “Lockdowns were wrong” and blame the Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, just when they are also trying to keep ‘Partygate’ going. Please excuse me if I go a bit Nelson Muntz at this point: “Hah haah!” You couldn’t make it up. But it gets worse with TWatO today, Jonny Dymond in charge.

    If I remember correctly, Craig Oliver who was Press spokesman (Director of Communications) for David Cameron and, I think, Theresa May was asked to make a contribution to TWatO. Surprisingly, the BBC sought balance on ‘Partygate’ and brought on Jonathan Powell, immediately afterwards, who was Tony Blair’s Chief of Staff. Powell instantly dropped Sue Gray (Investigator of Partygate) in it with a giveaway statement that she was ‘political’ ie. not as independent as a Civil Servant is expected to be. Jonathan Powell immediately corrected himself and said “non-political” but by then the damage – Sarah Montague-style – had been done.

    Interestingly and previously, Jonny and the TWatO team had also arranged two more vox pops; a Chairwoman of Tunbridge Wells (I think) Conservative Association and a Deputy Chair of the equivalent near to our Stew Green’s part of the world, Skegness. The lady went first and helpfully (for the BBC & Labour) said (I summarise) “Boris must go” but the gent who was the East Coast Conservative was rather more robust “It is all a plot to get rid of Boris Johnson.” Later as Jonny talked to both, the woman from Tunbridge Wells adjusted her position and agreed with the gentleman from Skegness.

    Oh dear, poor BBC. Poor old Labour Party. Nelson Muntz to comment again: “Hah haah!”


  34. digg says:

    Following its stalwart defence of the communist Chinese agents trying to infiltrate the UK Government the BBC float the question, should we all speak Chinese….


    They are the nothing more than a sleeper organisation for Global Communism and need to be gone in our democratic Country. It is disgusting that they can even float this idea.

    What a shame we don’t have a UK Government with the balls to say it and give them the boot!

    They are now the most dangerous movement this Country has ever faced and we are all paying for them to do it!

    Enough is enough in my opinion.

    Begone foul creatures, we are British not slaves of China and never will be!

    This will end in bullets and killing!


    • StewGreen says:

      BBC is probably more socialist than the Chinese gov
      .. The Chinese govt produced a video debunking a BBC report
      .. https://youtu.be/9RK5Me8maG4


      • Philip_2 says:

        The BBC would never have allowed Cuba to export goods to America, they much preferred it as a backwoods country of peasants as a holiday destination. As for Hong Kong, the handover to China was something the BBC would approve of to abolish ‘capitalism’ – in the form they want. Global capitalism serving the ruling global elites ONLY. Much like the EU plans for a post soviet model creating another soviet style EU by stealth claiming its based on American idealism. Well thanks to Biden, that is the wheel in motion once again. Chinese Communism v Russian Communism v American global imperialism (its a last pitch is to change all the rules to suit a purely digital US economy that it can control virtually). The BBC has always proffered the ‘soviet-model’ as many of the staff are not Marxist but (self admitted to Jeremy Clarkson) as being proper ‘Trotskyists’. An elite branch above the common Chinese global communal money grabbers (sniff). The BBC have their own cash currency!, they even have their own BBC Charter of rights and it ‘excludes’ those that are common money grabbers and (poor) Marxists.

        BBC donations are of course accepted from China, George Sorus, Bill Gates, Qatar, Saudi and Russia, purely for monetary gain and greed to aid the impoverished at the BBC. Propaganda ain’t cheap, millions to be made either way.


    • Thoughtful says:

      Hmmmmmmmm slave of China or Slave or Saudi ? I know which I’d prefer everytime !


  35. digg says:

    Shut the BBC… protect our Country… they are worse than Lord Haw Haw in 1940.

    Come on folks!

    Scream for their heads!

    Otherwise you will go under. I promise you!


    • Thoughtful says:

      They offered to fly the Swastika for the Nazis in the late 1930s from Bush house.


  36. Fedup2 says:

    Digg – and others – just before the weekend thread – a reminder that the Peter Bone Bill to end the TVL and make the BBC subscription only – has been put over to next Friday the 21st of January ….


    • Fedup2 says:

      Another interesting discussion on GBNews between Steyn and Starkey . Starkey likening wokeness to a new form of puritanical religion .

      He could expound it – but if you see it like that it sort of explains itself – say just one thing unapproved and you are ended – burned at the digital stake – cancelled – and in real life – rendered unemployed – unemployable – destroyed over one word or phrase –
      With these kidult woke new puritans out Woking each other to burn the heretic …
      Ironically another so called religion – Islam is having its own medieval feast in the West ….