We Think the Earth is warming, Therefore it is a man made disaster.
It is incredible to think that the only journalist with any integrity in the climate debate at the BBC is not Harrabin, Shukman or McGrath but Sheila Fogarty.
She has been the one asking the awkward questions about the much hyped ‘ocean warming’ explanation for the ‘pause’.
Harrabin et al should hang their heads in shame.
On Friday Fogarty was raising those questions though still coming down on the side of the ‘settled science’ as any good BBC employee should.
However she is still holding the fort now…and holding Harrabin himself to account when he breezily asserts ocean warming is the cause of the pause. (Any coincidence this line of thought suddenly became popular shortly after Harrabin’s old mucker and AGW propagandist Richard Black joined the ocean research side of things?)
Today on her show at around 13:55 Fogarty, presumably reading from the script provided by the environment journos, said…‘Whilst they have been protecting us from climate change we’ve been taking them (the oceans) for granted.’
Harrabin then came in and told us that :
‘We’ve been dumping our problems into the oceans’ and that ‘global warming has paused on land but the oceans have continued to warm and we’re not going to get away with it forever.’
Fogarty jumped in with a ‘hang on….is that true?’ question making Harrabin squirm and come up with a fudge of an answer.
Very amusing.
But essentially that is the problem with the whole IPCC process…whatever you believe, whether global warming is happening, whether it is man made or not, the presentation of the IPCC’s case must make you doubt that case.
It seems more based on hope and hype, faith that events will prove them right in the end….let’s face it, they’ve just ‘discovered’ third world cooking fires produce soot, and they have no idea how much aerosols effect the climate, never mind explaining the ‘pause’.
There are so many inconsistencies and contradictions, so many obvious lies, so many obvious claims based purely on speculation, hypothesis, guess work and wishful thinking, like Harrabin’s dodgy assertion above, that you cannot possibly support the IPCC’s claims, still less the resultant, enormously expensive political action based upon them.
The post below takes a look not only at some of the BBC’s coverage but also those contradictions and claims made in bad faith by the Science fraternity.
It’s a long one so get yourself a big mug of something and pull up a sandbag.
The BBC liberally plastered its news bulletins after the IPCC release of its latest report with repeated assertions that we could suffer what it predicts would be a catastrophic 5° C rise in global temperature and a sea level rise of 1metre by 2100 even though these are the absolute, and unlikely, maximums…and all the while completely ignoring the massive increase in ice in the Arctic this year.
When they propagate such alarmist scenarios in order to scare people into accepting the ‘science’ is it any wonder the BBC is the least trusted news provider…..and unfortunately, perhaps paradoxically, the most utilised as a source for news…
More than half of people in the UK regard the BBC as their single most important source of news, according to new figures released by media regulator Ofcom
The report said television remained by far the most important platform for news, used by 78% of adults against 40% who read newspapers, 35% who turn to the radio and 32% who look to the Internet.
The BBC website remains the most popular online destination, used by 52% of people who go online, against 19% of people who use Facebook and 10% who turned to Twitter for online news updates.
In total, 53% of people regarded one of the BBC’s news outlets, across TV, radio and online, as their most important source of news.
But while BBC TV was regarded as important, its viewers scored it marginally lower in terms of accuracy and reliability, and trustworthiness, than viewers of Sky News.
Asked whether it was impartial and unbiased, and offered a range of opinions, BBC TV scored less highly (among their respective viewers) than Sky News, ITV and Channel 4 News.
In the Guardian Will Hutton attempted a pre-emptive and emotive strike on the Sceptics who might find fault with the IPCC report:
To fight climate change, we must trust scientific truth and collective action
Sceptics will rubbish a new report on climate change, dismissing calls for governmental action. Don’t be swayed
BBC attempts to broadcast its findings in as impartial way as possible will be portrayed as yet more evidence of BBC bias, even though the BBC will pack its coverage with lots of sceptical voices, notwithstanding their marginalisation by world science, to try to cover its back.
‘Packed with sceptical voices’? Well not so far…one or two given a couple of minutes, the BBC journalists certainly don’t show a shred of interest in questioning the orthodoxy, and are more likely than not to promote it.
Thomas Stocker, co-chair of the IPCC working group producing the AR5 report said:
‘We’re not here to make headlines but we’re here for the science.’
But of course, the politics and headlines, that’s precisely what they are here for…the point of the summary was to guide government policy…it’s in the title… ‘A Summary For Policymakers.’
The BBC wasted no time in making the IPCC headline news, in fact they turned over 5live for a day to the ‘reporting’ of the summary.
But when you start looking, thinking and comparing what they say with what is happening in reality what is being reported as fact just doesn’t make sense.
There are many apparent, to a layman’s eye, contradictions in the ‘science’, contradictions and quite obvious fabrications to make the science fit the desired policies.
The Climate Change bandwagon based on bad Maths?
We are told that the scientists are being open and transparent with their data…but it seems that they still don’t like questions that ask how they calculated their alarming predictions.
The Met. Office has refused to answer questions raised in the House of Lords about a figure upon which the whole basis of the IPCC’s venture is based…that the world has warmed by 0.85° C in just over 130 years and that this is ‘serious’ and indicates man made influence.
If that figure is wrong and the risk assessment based upon that is wrong…then the whole thing is a charade based upon a lie…no wonder the Met. Office doesn’t want to answer any questions.
Here is the Met. Office’s reply when asked to explain their data:
‘As indicated in a previous Written Answer given … to the noble Lord on 14 January 2013 (Official Report, col. WA110), it is the role of the scientific community to assess and decide between various methods for studying global temperature time series. It is also for the scientific community to publish the findings of such work, in the peer-reviewed scientific literature.’
Thus, in the opinion of the Met Office, Parliament has no right to ask scientific questions of government scientists.
But perhaps they should be made to answer for some are questioning their conclusion:
‘The model used by HM Government should be rejected, in favor of the driftless model. With the driftless model, however, the rise in temperatures since 1880 is not significant. In other words, the correct Answer to the Question (HL3050) might be No.’
But just how reliable is the IPCC?
We’re constantly directed to understand that its findings are the result of hundreds of the finest scientific minds coming together, without sleep, examining, inspecting, evaluating and rigorously testing the science.
That might not be the whole truth…for example we know that the false claims that the Himalayas would disappear by 2035 were taken from a WWF tract….Spiked magazine investigates further:
‘…there’s the idea that the IPCC report is the product of the world’s top experts. But in reality, knowing a subject well is not nearly as important, it seems, as having a face that fits. So, leading IPCC contributors sometimes do not even have PhDs in their subjects, never mind being world-class experts, while other researchers in charge of chapters had expertise in a completely different area to the one they were working on. Meanwhile, the nature of the review process means that when leading experts are critical, they can safely be ignored by chapter authors.
In March 2010, Laframboise decided to take on the task of working out just how many references in the 2007 report were to non-peer-reviewed sources. With the help of volunteers from her blog readership, her audit found that 30 per cent of the references were from newspaper and magazine articles, unpublished masters theses, reports produced by green groups and even press releases.
Laframboise lists 78 people involved with the IPCC who are also members of WWF’s parallel climate panel. Of these, 23 are IPCC co-ordinating lead authors – the people in charge of individual chapters of the reports. ‘Ladies and gentlemen’, she writes, ‘the IPCC has been infiltrated.’
The BBC however isn’t interested in questioning the orthodoxy
…it never has been as this email from BBC man Alex Kirby shows, Alex Kirby who was very, very close with Phil Jones et al at the CRU:
So nice and cosy was the relationship that in 2004, Mr Kirby wrote to Phil Jones (email 4894) in the build up to COP-10:
Yes, glad you stopped this — I was sent it too, and decided to spike it without more ado as pure stream-of-consciousness rubbish. I can well understand your unhappiness at our running the other piece. But we are constantly being savaged by the loonies for not giving them any coverage at all, especially as you say with the COP in the offing, and being the objective impartial (ho ho) BBC that we are, there is an expectation in some quarters that we will every now and then let them say something. I hope though that the weight of our coverage makes it clear that we think they are talking through their hats.
Once the ‘Summary for Policy Makers’ was released we then had a long line of scientists and commentators queuing up to promote the IPCC’s line on the BBC…which readily swallowed everything they said and faithfully regurgitated it almost without question.
Here is one statement that is meant to support that line, but which means nothing on its own:
We (Met Office) run computers with and without CO2 forcings….and when we include CO2 in the model, temperatures rise.
Of course they rise…..because they programme the computers to do that!
The IPCC are proclaiming increased confidence in their models, without explaining why they have increased confidence, (in the AR4 Summary for Policymakers, the IPCC admitted that the reported 90% confidence was simply based on “expert judgment” i.e. conjecture.) and all just at a time when the discrepancies between their models and realtime observations increase…..in other words they can’t explain the ‘Pause’.
Here is their ‘evidence’ related to us by a scientist on the radio that the world is warming and it is caused by man:
‘…evidence from the last 15 years… the, the warming ocean, the retreating snow and ice, the changing rainfall patterns, the continuing sea-level rise, and this evidence is so strong, of the dominant role of human influence on the climate system.’
That might be evidence of some changes in climate but it in no way indicates the cause.
But what is real is the pause (and they don‘t know the cause of that either)…the IPCC grudgingly admits there is a pause, Phil Jones in 2005 admitted it, but also gave a clue why many possibly sceptical scientists stay silent:
“The scientific community would come down on me in no uncertain terms if I said the world had cooled from 1998. Okay it has but it is only seven years of data and it isn’t statistically significant.”
Thomas Stock tried to wriggle out of the importance of the ‘Pause’ by claiming that a climate relevant period would be 30 years….in other words 15 or more years is not statistically significant.
Well in 2009 Professor Phil Jones of the CRU told us:
‘Bottom line: the no upward trend has to continue for a total of 15 years before we get worried.’
I guess they are worried…but only because their careers, reputations and multi-million dollar grants are at risk if global warming is proven to be wrong.
So far there is no proof that it is CO2 that is the culprit, or the main culprit, causing any climate change.
Phil Jones admitted that temperatures show a rise 800 years before CO2 rises….so is the rise in CO2 now in fact a result of warming caused by something else?…Jones et al say whatever…a rise in CO2 even if caused by something else will produce undesirable ‘feedback’ and cause more warming.
The IPCC tells us that CO2 is at the highest level for 800,000 years, it has risen 40% since the 1950’s, and that there is a lag of 25 years between CO2 being emitted and its resultant effects.
They also tell us that CO2 is enormously powerful….one scientist, from the Met. Office I think, boasted that he had been asked by a government minister why CO2, if it was in such small quantities in the atmosphere, was so important?…he said well, if I sprinkled a tiny amount of arsenic on your dinner you would soon find out just how powerful a tiny amount is.
Well…if CO2 has risen a massive 40% why is it that temperatures have risen a mere 0.85° C since 1880 and have now stalled?
They tell us that it is a linear relationship…..the BBC’s Matt McGrath pushing the point backed up by the Met. Office‘s Peter Stott: ‘….and it is a clear linear relationship, so that the more you pump into the atmosphere, the more the temperature goes up, its… in a very complex system it is as simple as that?’
Stott: ‘There is this very clear linear relationship between the overall emissions of carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, carbon dioxide, and the global temperature rise, so the more we emit, the more the temperature increases.’
Well that is clearly not the case here, maybe in the science lab but not in real life…..both with the small scale of temperature rise compared to large, relatively, emissions of CO2, and the ‘Pause’ at a time when CO2 has reached its highest level for 800,000 years.
Clearly no linear relationship in real life.
And what of that ‘highest level of CO2 in 800,000 years’?
The IPCC now admits that the Medieval Warm Period, did exist, thank you very much.
Continental-scale surface temperature reconstructions show, with high confidence, multidecadal periods during the Medieval Climate Anomaly (year 950 to 1250) that were in some regions as warm as in the late 20th century.
How does the IPCC avoid the rather difficult problem, the inconvenient fact of global warming 1000 years ago, that the earth warmed to the same degree it has now, and all without the Industrial Revolution and the benefit of massive quantities of CO2?
The IPCC tells us it was warm but only in parts…unlike the earth now.
These regional warm periods did not occur as coherently across regions as the warming in the late 20th century.
The problem with that is they now tell us that though some regions of the world will warm, others, like the UK, will get colder.
So in other words there will be regional differences in temperature…just like the Medieval Warm Period…if that was indeed the case.
But they also tell us that 1983-2012 was likely the warmest 30 year period of the last 1400 years.
Now maybe my maths is not up to it but 1400 years would take you back to the year 613 AD…whilst the Medieval Warm Period was from 950-1250 AD…..a ‘multi-decadal warm period’ at the least surely….300 years by my maths.
So once again the MWP seems to have gone missing.
Ocean Warming
What of those claims, the legend that has become fact, that the oceans are soaking up the heat?
Seems all of a sudden doesn’t it?
Only last week we heard from the BBC that the oceans, as proved by studies of Clams, had been warming for a long time, at least 100 years.
So how come, how come, suddenly, in 1998, the oceans are supposed to have started sucking up even more heat at a much higher rate than before…so much so that suddenly, the global warming stops? What caused the oceans to do that?
Answer me that.
Answer me this…..
The IPCC tells us that from 1971 to 2010 60% of the energy increase went into the oceans. OK….1971 (we’ll ignore the warming for at least 100 years claim)..not 1998 as a start point….so why didn’t the ‘pause’ start in 1971?
Here’s another thing….they tell us that ocean heat content on the surface increased more slowly from 2003 to 2010 than from 1993 to 2002.
Yes that’s right…..More slowly
…..so the oceans have been taking up less heat, not more…..so …well…you ask the question.
There is also the misdirection by scientists and BBC journos…they say well, the pause, hiatus, or as the BBC prefer, slowdown in warming, started in 1998, or that is the period that the ‘sceptics’ choose to base their calculations on…this is wrong they tell us…because 1998 was the hottest year and so distorts the figures….anything cooler than that is not necessarily cooler…and could still be warming.
That of course is a misdirection… 1998 was a result of El Nino and was an unusual high because of it…but the 15 years following that have been flat regardless of the 1998 temperature….there is no escape from that….Prof. Phil Jones told us that 15 years was statistically significant…they are now trying to move the goalposts to suit the politics not the science.
But on what data had this ‘ocean warming’ been based?
Harrabin and his cohort of scientists have been saying that it is the deep ocean that has been absorbing the heat….but the IPCC tell us that it is the surface that absorbs by far the greatest amount…not only that but the IPCC’s Thomas Stock told us (09:58) that the current warming hiatus could not be predicted because:
‘There are not sufficient observations of the uptake of heat, particularly into the deep ocean that could explain this hiatus.’
‘Likewise, we have insufficient data to establish a relationship between the causes of the warming….There is not enough published literature to allow us to study this.’
So no data.
But plenty of er, less than convincing facts from the BBC.
So there are some very major questions to be raised about the ‘facts’ presented to us by the IPCC and unquestioned by the BBC…Sheila Fogarty aside.
The IPCC has no proof that the oceans are absorbing the heat and yet the BBC has now started broadcasting it as fact, the IPCC cannot prove that CO2 is the cause of global warming, they cannot explain the ‘Pause’, they ignore the inconvenient Medieval Warm Period which completely destroys their argument, they do not explain the inconsistencies in the supposedly linear relationship between CO2 and temperatures rising when that doesn’t happen. They cannot explain why when CO2 levels are rising rapidly, at their highest level for 800,000 years temperatures are static.
At the end of the day it maybe that the earth is warming naturally as it continues to emerge from the last ice age….and that manmade particles from fires etc slowed that warming….and when clean air legislation was introduced those particles which reflected sunlight and kept us cool vanished…and the natural warming continued apace.
As they admit they have no idea how much effect aerosols have on temperature so you have to assume such a scenario hasn’t been properly investigated.
Ironically the reduction of fossil fuel burning and cleaning up of the air in order to reduce warming could in fact raise temperatures.
Well..maybe. It’s an amusing thought.
Quite a few questions any good environmental journalist would like to get his teeth into…unless of course he supinely rolls over and has his stomach tickled by the IPCC like any good little lapdog would.
An excellent piece, Alan, a comprehensive deconstruction of the BBC’s dodgy position on climate change and the IPCC’s even dodgier relationship with the scientific method.
But even by BBC standards, I cannot believe their man Kirby said this:
‘Yes, glad you stopped this — I was sent it too, and decided to spike it without more ado as pure stream-of-consciousness rubbish. I can well understand your unhappiness at our running the other piece. But we are constantly being savaged by the loonies for not giving them any coverage at all, especially as you say with the COP in the offing, and being the objective impartial (ho ho) BBC that we are, there is an expectation in some quarters that we will every now and then let them say something. I hope though that the weight of our coverage makes it clear that we think they are talking through their hats.’
In any other organisation (well, private sector anyway) that would demand disciplinary action. But, as I’d guess they all have ‘promotion of the AGW theory’ in their objectives by now following the BBC meeting with their 28 gate eco-mates, the pro-man made global warming stance was already well-established by 2004 anyway.
The BBC know what they are doing. Harrabin has been engrossed for long enough in this topic to know that we are being scammed time and again by a bunch of activists and politicans who treat us like imbeciles. The problem is, he and the rest at the BBC are themselves scammers, as 28gate proved. Only a few minutes googling will throw up a pile of scientific views which disagree with the IPCC ‘consensus’ but they never get an airing – it makes an absolute mockery of their so-called balance and impartiality. Fogerty’s interview was also a sham. No sustained challenge and nothing of any substance when you consider the ammunition that just this site has provided over the last few months from Climategate through the make-up of the IPCC to an ice-free Arctic in 2013.
Well, just to keep us all sane here’s yet another little tickler on the ‘Arctic ice-free by 2013’ claim made in 2008 (and already consigned to the BBC Memory Hole):
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/09/18/arctic-ice-rapidly-growing/
‘“We see a tipping point occurring right before our eyes,” Hansen told the AP before the luncheon. “The Arctic is the first tipping point and it’s occurring exactly the way we said it would.”
Hansen, echoing work by other scientists, said that in five to 10 years, the Arctic will be free of sea ice in the summer.’
‘Exactly the way we said it would’. Yeh, like all the rest of your crap that you’re still telling us despite real world evidence. And the BBC are still following like true believers. It’s all too head-shakingly surreal for words.
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It is going to be interesting to observe this religion crashing and burning over the next few years though as it surely has nowhere else to go now it has become so absurd. It must be the case that even clowns like Davey and the useful idiots at the BBC know that Joe public is rapidly twigging it and that the game is up. This will go down in history as the largest con trick the human race has ever been subject to.
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The scammers are trying to make it last until their tax-payer funded extra-large pensions kick-in, or move into other tax-sucking sinecures.
And then they’ll be endlessly paraded on the BBC telling us all to painfully ‘make Green sacrifices’ while they live in comfort.
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Beware, OB. They want to move into the serious execution phase of ‘what we do about it’ – aka Agenda 21 – asap, so it would not surprise me to hear the UN and the EU in the not too distant future making noises about them all agreeing the science is settled and time is of the essence anyway so no need for the IPCC any more, lets just get on with it (the ‘it’ being the political solutions). It’s not just coincidence that all we’ve been hearing for the past fortnight from the BBC and the rest of the leftist media is how the ‘scientists’ are more certain than ever – yes, even in the face of real-world evidence telling them the opposite.
So expect early warnings to come from the likes of the BBC, who will find a convenient group of experts – recruited from their 28 gate gang – to debate this action as a possibility. All in very common purposeful fashion, of course.
Man-made global warming – it’s too big to fail.
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Lapdogs is right. The work of Laframboise reveals the BBC journos to be either incompetent, asleep at the wheel, or lapdogs. Why did they not do the elementary checking which Laframboise has done on so many of the IPCC claims? They were not asleep, they can use the internet, and therefore I conclude they were willing collaborators in gross deception. In other words, they were and are lapdogs. Despicable is too good a word for them.
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Top work Alan – We’ve fallen out occasionally but top marks for your research.
Keep an eye on WUWT and Climate Audit, not forgetting Bishop Hill and Nofrakking Nonsense.
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as with all of these things – follow the money – research grants, subcontracting educational courses, CP training. Potentially a boost to the economy if it were not largely funded transferring taxpayers money to our kinder, more understanding, intelligent, caring betters – at least they get to feel noble rather than rogered – spread the joy
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I have never understood how a bunch of journalists, with degrees in music, sociology, media studies, or some such, can become such obstinate experts in a field in which it is impossible to be an expert.
The science of Climate is not a science, and is unlikely to be ever a science, as it involves too many ‘sciences’. For a start a real climate scientist would have to be expert in Solar dynamics, planetary mechanics, thermodynamics, electromagnetics and radiation, oceanography- particularly the thermodynamics of heat exchange in oceans, and the behaviour of living organisms. Thats for a start.
Then the interaction – linear and non-linear, time delayed, feedback, noise, etc etc. This is just a start without even mentioning clouds. Can’t see how it can be done. Then setting up experiments that are valid over the whole planet.
Even a committee of experts would be unable to handle it.
The only way left is to the take temperature readings and extrapolate. Extrapolation over a time frame of decades, is far worse then simply taking a blind guess. And on this blind guess we are supposed to wreck the present industrial economy of the West, and worse, wreck the future of generations to come.
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Almost 4000 words. Congratulations. Your output is unreadable at 500, but at this length the ineptitude of your syntax and punctuation renders it a grave trial, even for those of us who have 20 years’ experience marking GCSE essays.
A hint: successful bloggers, that is to say those who are read by an audience of more than six sycophants, typically write entries no longer than 500 words, and often even less. You might want to consider this fact.
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I can’t agree with this assessment: it was actually an easier read than I had expected, though it was rather long; the syntax and punctuation used did not get in the way of comprehension, and one or two typographical errors are to be expected in a piece this long.
The remark about ‘six sycophants’ is gratuitously offensive and, of course, ad hominem; your time would be better spent concentrating on the substance of the article, about which you appear to have nothing to say. If you do not have the reading stamina to cope with 4000 words, or even 500, then that is your problem. The AGW debate is too important and complex to be dealt with in bite-sized pieces.
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Please don’t feed the goat worrier, he needs to go back under his bridge, its scary out in the real world for him.
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He doesn’t worry this goat…
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Nor this goat…
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4000 words of actual substance vs two paragraphs of transparent, baseless, partisan trolling from someone whose username doesn’t even pretend that they’re here for anything other than attention-seeking.
You lose, yet again.
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Poor old CTC – attention span of a gnat. Easy meat for the BBC and their sound bite science.
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Boy, that’s told ‘im, huh? Don’t bother with the substance – go for superficial style instead.
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Oo, factual considerations.
Based on running a word count taboot. What fun.
‘successful bloggers, that is to say those who are read by an audience of more than six’
Just checking that counter up there, and this blog seems to be doing OK, unless you are going to claim around 3.7M views by a dedicated six. That’s the kind of maths that gets you a gig assessing SWP protest numbers for the BBC whilst cropping the photos to…’fit’.
Speaking of ‘successful bloggers, here’s the latest (a story in itself) from the Editors of the £4Bpa BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-editors-23441524
At all of… one… and at that a sycophant, almost poetic in irony really.
Maybe with the BBC it’s a case of ‘less is… who cares, we get paid no matter what’?
But you did get 3 others to ‘like’ your latest. Extra irony if TL:DR was one. Double them and you can try a blog yourself. When you do, make sure to share the URL (an alien concept to you, one appreciates).
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global warming is the poor mans best freind,never mind waiting till 2017 for red ed to freeze gas and electricity prices,if we had autumn and winters as hot as summers the same way they have it in florida we would all be saving money on are ultility bills,the global warming fanatics would say to me there would be more rain and flooding if we have summer tempatures in the autunm and winter,yes your right,but only dumb enough if you choose to live on a flood plain you dummys.
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What I can’t understand is why the solution to Global Warming AKA Climate Change is higher taxes and how is it that, lets say Marcus Brigstocks global travels to snowboard etc, releases less CO2 than Joe Bloggs annual trip to Spain.
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I heard one female presenter on radio 4 say that 2007 was the hottest year this century. What she meant was from 2000 to 2013, not the last 100 years but she just wanted to give the impression of 100 years.
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Same as when MSN said that twins had been born ‘a decade apart’ and it just turned out that one was born at 11:50pm on December 31st 2009 and the other was born at 12:10am on January 1st 2010. Or the documentary about the ‘pregnant man’ which was actually a woman undergoing a sex change. Pure sensationalism.
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Man-made and Volcanic CO2 does not have the Carbon-14 Isotope. Levels of this Isotope show that 4 percent or 16ppm of the increase in CO2 in over 100 years is due to Man-made or Volcanic CO2, this is also confirmed by the ratio of Carbon-12 to Carbon-13 in the Atmosphere. So if you use facts instead of assumptions, then only 16 percent of the increase in CO2 was man-made. This is not a surprise if you realise that ice core data shows that CO2 levels rise about 800 years after a warming and that the Medieval Warm period peaked about 800 years ago. The reason for this is that there is a 800 year thermal lag in the deep oceans and that the Oceans dominate the system with a mass 275 times that of the Atmosphere, so the ratio of CO2 in the Atmosphere/Oceans is dependent upon the heat in the Oceans.
“They cannot explain why when CO2 levels are rising rapidly, at their highest level for 800,000 years temperatures are static”
The explanation of why ice core data gives an error for the increase in CO2 in the last 100 years was given to the BBC by Mensa members in their complaint, an extract below was in the complaint.
Over the first 80 years that Ice Cores are formed CO2 is absorbed by cold water, there has been 180 years of Atmospheric CO2 gas analysis by chemical methods (Beck, 2007). This means that from 1810 to 1930 we have both Ice core and direct measurements of CO2 in the Atmosphere. This shows that ice cores have CO2 levels about 40 percent lower than the original atmosphere (Jaworowski, 2007). This also shows that CO2 levels were 470ppm in 1828 and 290ppm in 1888.
Also, I do not think anyone will find the missing heat if it has been reflected.
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