We are hearing a great deal about the ‘Trojan Horse’ plot to Islamise secular schools…there are two issues here…one the ‘Islamisation’ and second how that is achieved.
The ‘Islamisation’ attempts have long been an open ‘secret’….the MCB, in 2007, produced this document to ‘advise’ schools on how to treat Muslim pupils and be respectful of their culture and background…to help them integrate you understand….it’s definitely not a case of stealthily imposing a ‘creeping Islamisation’ using the subterfuge of ‘respect and diversity’…….
Meeting the needs of Muslim pupils in state schools
Towards Greater Understanding
Here the BBC reports it in 2007:
Schools advised on Muslim pupils
Here the Express reports it:
Muslims: ‘Ban’ non-Islamic schools
DEMANDS for a ban on “un-Islamic” activities in schools will be set out by the Muslim Council of Britain today.
If you think this was all done by stealth you’d be wrong…it was done with the blessing of the Labour government:
The calls for all children to be taught in Taliban-style conditions will be launched with the help of a senior Government education adviser, Professor Tim Brighouse, chief adviser to London schools.
The MCB itself tells us:
The MCB’s contribution in publishing its report, Towards Greater Understanding, is wholly consistent with the government’s “Every Child Matters” strategy, and complementary to it. The result of meeting Muslim needs in mainstream schools is that Islam and Muslims become a normal part of British life and that we become fully integrated in this way.
In that last paragraph is the heart of the matter…The MCB wants non-Muslims to compromise and adapt to Muslim ways and beliefs…so that Islam becomes ‘a normal part of British life’…..then Muslims can ‘integrate’ and feel at home….by making everyone else ‘virtual’ Muslims….by making ‘Britain a normal part of Islam’.
Did anybody take note of the MCB, apart from the government?
Ealing Council reproduced the MCB’s advise practically word for word….and you can bet that councils up and down the land did likewise.
So are secular schools being ‘Islamised’? Yes…and it has been seen as perfectly acceptable before now.
The difference now is that some Muslims are trying to impose these beliefs and practises by more forceful methods by taking over management of schools or adopting high pressure tactics to force out staff that won’t comply.
And then there are the Faith Schools themselves of course….is fundamentalist Islam a problem in such schools or not?.
But let’s have a look at some aspects of the BBC’s reporting of the latest events concerning the ‘Trojan Horse’ plot.
The BBC has given a fair bit of airtime to the plot….but seems all too ready to declare the whole thing a hoax……
The letter – which has not been authenticated and which could be a provocative hoax – refers to “Operation Trojan Horse”. This classical allusion refers to using a device to get past the defences and to take over the school system from within.
Victoria Derbyshire (11:52) enthusiastically screeched that it ‘May never have existed or is a fake’ on her show today in a talk with the BBC’s Phil Mackie who stated….
‘It is mindblowing how big this has become ever since the Trojan Horse letter was published…and we’re not even sure if it’s a fake or not.‘
The Guardian is on the case as well:
Alleged Islamic plot to take over Birmingham schools may be hoax
But if you read the explanation you’ll realise the hoax claim is complete tripe and such claims that it might be a hoax are deliberately highly misleading and intended to undermine the whole claim that there is a plot….unfortunately there is massive evidence that backs up those claims of a plot:
Byrne told constituents in a blogpost : “It is important that you know [that] the allegations which triggered the latest inspections were made by former and present staff at Park View, along with parents, and were made BEFORE the so-called Trojan Horse letter appeared in the press.”
The council has received at least 200 letters, emails and telephone calls from past and present school governors, teachers and parents wishing to complain about what they say has been going on, particularly at secular schools allegedly subject to “creeping Islamisation”.
Muslim parent: Radical school is brainwashing our children
Children at one of the state schools taken over by hardline Muslims are being “programmed” and have been “drilled” by their teachers to lie to Ofsted inspectors investigating the plot, according to a parent.
Mohammed Zabar, the father of a 10-year-old girl attending Oldknow Academy in Birmingham, today becomes the first person to speak openly about events at his daughter’s school.
Mr Zabar, 44, decided to break his silence after The Sunday Telegraph described how teachers at the supposedly secular school led children in anti-Christian chanting, stopped them from celebrating Christmas, organised subsidised trips to Mecca and required all pupils to learn Arabic.
Mackie also doesn’t like the word ‘extremist’ to describe the people who have been working to impose an Islamic agenda upon these schools…where might he get guidance on the correct language to use?……
Look at what Inayat Bunglawala, chair of Muslims4UK, and once a spokesman for the MCB said:
“The contents of this document are very disturbing. On the face of it this would appear to be part of a radical agenda by a tiny yet highly committed group of activists to impose their very conservative and bleak vision of Islamic teachings in our schools by fomenting division and distrust against the existing school leadership. It constitutes highly objectionable and unethical behaviour.”
Now have a look at what Mackie has written:
The alleged Trojan Horse plot is about claims a small group of Muslims, with strongly held religious beliefs, had co-ordinated takeovers at schools in Birmingham in order to impose a more Islamic style of teaching.
So Mackie, coincidentally, takes the exact same line as someone who is himself an ‘Islamist’ activist? Someone who worked for the extremist MCB….which produced it’s own ‘Trojan Horse’ document, quite openly, but under the guise of being ‘advice’ to schools in 2007:
An agenda for integration
The Muslim Council of Britain’s new guidelines for schools can help pupils to feel fully and equally valued.
And look who wrote it….Tahir Alam…one of the alleged ‘Islamist’ governors at Park View School….and an MCB member…..’one of the alleged plotters, Tahir Alam – a former chair of the education committee of the Muslim Council of Britain – told the Guardian on Friday evening that the letter was “a malicious fabrication and completely untrue”.’
Mackie is playing the usual BBC game of downplaying the facts in the interests of that good old ‘community cohesion’….claiming dire social consequences if the truth came out:
The latest DfE statement on the issue uses words like “Islamist” and “extremist”.
There is a danger such language could inflame sentiment within a population which already feels isolated and victimised….and put upon.
The authorities in Birmingham have prided themselves on working successfully and closely with the Muslim community, and fear that if there is a heavy-handed intervention from London it might have a detrimental effect.
The refusal to use the word ‘extremist’ is a bit of a U-turn for the BBC, and in fact, by coincidence, is in the same vein as the comments made by Giles Fraser recently when he demanded an absolute commitment to your religion if you are a real believer…..no such thing as a moderate, or extremist Islam, there is just Islam, just Christianity indeed….before such people were called fundamentalists or extremists…now Mackie merely calls them ‘Muslims with strongly held beliefs’.
What Mackie is saying is that these aren’t extremists but merely people who want to live their lives using the fundamental teachings of their religion as a guide.
So how to describe the true followers of a strict Islam if no longer extremist? And what does that make the ‘Muslims’ who were previously classified as ‘moderate’ because they didn’t follow the religious laws to the letter? Are they no longer Muslim? ‘Muslim Lite’ maybe.
Mackie has a history as someone who will massage the message in favour of an ethnic minority:
BBC Plays The Race Card On Immigration
Mackie tweeted this:
The Romanian Foreign Ministry has told me some of the language being used in the UK about its citizens is “close to being racist”
— Phil Mackie (@philmackie) December 31, 2013
and retweeted this:
Migration: politics of fear – ‘dangerous to play with popular emotions on a matter of important national policy’ http://t.co/HdBYI5BiCQ
— Oana Romocea (@OanaRomocea) December 31, 2013
Perhaps you can get a taste for his views on people who are making these claims about the ‘Trojan Horse plot’ from this:
Below is a short run down of some of the Islamic demands made on schools by the MCB in 2007…essentially that no Muslim should be asked to do anything that he or she doesn’t consider Islamic….they shouldn’t have to compromise their beliefs…..all the very same demands that are being complained of now as imposed by the ‘Trojan Horse’ plotters…‘the school is corrupting their children with sex education, teaching about homosexuals, making their children pray Christian prayers and mixed swimming and sports’ :
Schools are asked to respect these views and principles, which are held sincerely on the grounds of conscience, and to honour parents’ wishes by not placing pupils in situations of religious and moral compromise.
Whilst Muslims have no wish to constrain the freedom of others, they would urge schools to organise and manage physical education so that pupils can choose other acceptable forms of activity, for example, athletics, games, gymnastics, outdoor and adventurous activities and swimming within the curriculum.
It is also important, in schools where there are no Muslims, for all pupils to learn about Islam.
It is not permissible for Muslims to actively participate in non-Islamic acts of worship.
Girls should be covered except for their hands and faces, a concept known as ‘hijab’.
The most suitable sportswear for boys and girls that respects the requirements of Islamic
modesty is a tracksuit and in addition for girls a headscarf tied in a safe and secure manner.
Any decision by Muslim pupils to manifest their religion by growing a beard should be respected by their school.
School makes arrangements for their Muslim pupils who wish to perform daily prayers in school.
School allocates a regular place for the daily prayers that fall within school time.
School ensures washing facilities are available, preferably in close proximity to the prayer area.
School builds or adapts a washing facility in the toilet areas where pupils can conveniently make ablution which includes washing of the feet.
Schools can recognise and celebrate the Eid festivals by highlighting the importance of the
message of Eid through collective worship and assemblies. Schools may want to share sweets amongst all children to mark this event. In addition, schools may make the normal school meals a special Eid meal for all the children
Some sports involve physical contact with other team players, for example basketball and football. Most Muslim parents would find it objectionable for boys and girls to play such sports in mixedgender groups. Schools can respond positively to this concern by making sure that contact sports are always in single-gender groups.
Given the choice between mixed or single-sex swimming, Muslim parents would always opt for a wholly single-sex environment for swimming.
Dance is one of the activity areas of the national curriculum for physical education. Muslims
consider that most dance activities, as practised in the curriculum, are not consistent with
the Islamic requirements for modesty as they may involve sexual connotations and messages
when performed within mixed-gender groups or if performed in front of mixed audiences.
Sex and relationship education (SRE) is taught in single-sex groups, by a teacher of the same gender.
The use of sexually explicit videos, pictures and objects are avoided as aids for the teaching of SRE.
School takes account of Muslim sensitivities and sensibilities with respect to sexual morality and includes Islamic moral perspectives when teaching SRE to Muslim pupils.
Schools should consider giving Muslim pupils the opportunity to study Arabic and/or
other languages relevant to their family background.
a few things disturb me about this muslim islamist trojan horse plot in birmingham and countrywide,the absolute politacaly correct cowardice shown by the labour party leadership at birmingham city council and the police who are still trying to play this plot down because they care more about not upsetting the feelings of the muslim community in birmingham than the non muslims is just shocking, i read that this has being going on in birmingham schools for over 20 years and the labour council and the police turned a complete blind eye to this islamic extremism in fear of being branded islamiphobic by these so called self appointed muslim community leaders who are always in denial about extremism,that is bad enough but this is worst,did you watch the pro islamic bbc news tonight,they interviewed these muslims parents in birmingham who sounded like they came over here from pakistan,everyone one of them said how fantastic these schools are so in effect they are as radical as the extremists and they support the islamic extremists who are taken over the secular non faith schools and turning them into grooming madrassas for a future generation of extremists and muslim terrorists,i found what these muslim parents said truly shocking tonight.
We should be furnished with a list of the teachers and police officers dumb enough to suck-up to these barbarians, so that when the Caliphate is completed, we can ‘deal’ with these traitors accordingly…….i am deadly serious.
This is the attitude of those in power….all based, like the BBC’s, upon concerns that the truth will start off communal conflict:
‘The council’s contention is that the Trojan Horse claims may spill over into trouble on the streets.’
And so we get statements and attitudes like this……
There’s no Muslim plot to radicalise Birmingham schoolchildren’, insists city council chief executive
In the first part of a report on his interview with Council boss Mark Rogers, chief blogger Paul Dale explains that Mark Rogers is seeking to play down the ‘Trojan Horse’ story that has grabbed national media and political attention.
Birmingham schools are not at the centre of a Muslim extremist stealth plot to radicalise pupils and claims of a Trojan Horse-type takeover are without foundation, city council chief executive Mark Rogers has insisted.
Mr Rogers attempted to defuse critical media coverage over the issue by insisting investigations have failed to uncover any conspiracy by hardline Islamists to infiltrate classrooms.
During his interview Mr Rogers did not use the words ‘Muslim’ or ‘Islam’. The chief executive preferred instead to talk about Birmingham’s “new communities”.
“The letter that sparked all this off is almost certainly spurious. But it does relate to important issues dealing with the different expectations that communities have.
“I think the letter reflects some concerns and potential issues in our communities. I don’t think it is a narrative of historical fact.
“I don’t believe there is a conspiracy. Conspiracy is such a damaging and loaded word. Easy to use, and difficult to prove.
“We need to be careful to delineate between individuals and communities who might seek an educational environment conforming to the prevailing culture and customs in the countries they come from. We should distinguish that from radicalisation. These are two very different things.
“This is not about radicalising young people. It is a different set of issues in my mind.”
Birmingham faith leaders have combined to condemn media coverage of the Trojan Horse issue.
The Bishop of Birmingham, the Rt Rev David Urquhart, joined representatives from Muslim, Jewish, Sikh and Hindu faiths to issue a statement: “We are profoundly concerned that some of the public media have distorted the discussion on what has become known as ‘Operation Trojan Horse’, demonising sections of the community in a completely unacceptable way.”
Mark Rogers is of course correct to say that there is no “conspiracy”. A conspiracy is something that is secret and deliberate, whereas the Islamist agenda is quite open and intentional for those who wish to look. And it is supported by the gamut of the Establishment from the BBC through to nation-hating Labour politicians and Tories with business connections to the Middle East.
Until people realise that it is not radical … or extremist … Sunni or Shi … or as the BBC now starts to report “orthodox” or any other buzzword anyone would like to choose … the PROBLEM IS ISLAM PERIOD …
That is NOT a castigation on all the muslim population, as there are good or bad as in all walks of life.
It is however the IDEOLOGY people, as Islam without question, is much more totalitarian ideology, than religion …
that IS the issue.
It is all about power and imposition, why do you think every pseudo spokesman will even call (on occasion) other muslims, but when do you hear them
emphatically castigating the ideology?.
You might even think that you have, through obfuscational weasel words, but believe me … Islam has been lying, and threatening its way to success for over 1400 yrs, they are expert at it.
Sadly the ideology pulls the “herd” into line, not such a bad thing … for them!
… as they see the “protected” treatment that they get, from the traitorous Gov scum “lording it” over us.
It is not only schools … communities, councils, planners, local government,
MP s, Food, Leisure activities etc …
“Privilege s” that others do not have … “special” accommodation.
Not a Bham school Trojan Horse, or a muslim Trojan horse …. for goodness sake wake up …
Islam IS the Trojan Horse period.
R Spencer on the ever widening Trojan Horse investigation :-
Council leader Sir Albert Bore said: “Peter Clarke will need to give careful consideration to building a strong relationship with us and, given his recent counter-terrorism responsibilities in London, ensure that his investigation does not undermine the confidence of our communities.” … Now wait just a minute, Bore.
This is a plot by Islamic supremacists to take over schools, and it is up to the investigator to win the confidence of Muslim communities? … Why isn’t it up to the Muslim communities to win the confidence of the investigator?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/04/uk-anti-terror-chief-chosen-to-investigate-muslim-school-takeover-plot-sparking-concern-hell-undermine-confidence-of-muslims
ps
The BBC hatchets are ready, to instigate, obfuscate, and refuse to report truthfully to undermine .. public perception …
well … I got news, public perception is clear and getting clearer, and it is the craven media bubble which is failing them.
The BBC are complicit in keeping ‘public perception’ in the dark and the lid on any public backlash.
BBC 5Live at present, has the “godawful” V Drearybyshire …
with just this subject …
only just started and the insinuation is that check this P Clarke guy out …
… not productive,
… need for greater understanding
We see once again the BBC trenchantly doing the work of dubious Islamic groups.
A dangerous situation indeed. Any Christian or indigenous parent with a child at such a school ( as those being investigated) would be justified in removing the child at once. In fact it would be a dereliction of parental responsibility not to do so. Hence the panic amongst the liberal media.
I suspect that this is in fact the case and accounts for the panic.
Were this to be so and were it to continue in those areas of cities with large Muslim popualtions you can say goodabye to any hope of integration and hello to creeping Balkanistion of England.
Thus have a liberal elite negligently bought about a fracturing of a nation after over 1000 years.
I hope they are ashamed of themselves. But so brainwashed are these pod people that I doubt it.
Any Christian parent who removed their children for these sharia schools, would be pilloried, then charged with a hate crime.
Since a lot of this is portrayed as being about which words are used, note that the MCB’s document, as described by the bBBC, ‘aims to ensure state schools meet Muslim pupils’ needs’. Not wishes/ desires/ choices but needs.
The most straightforward way to fulfil those needs is a one-way ticket from Heathrow.
you have to ask this question,if this muslim extremism is happening openly in the schools,god help us what is happening in these mosques behind closed doors,maybe i should tell mama whats going on
I was too kind to the BBC. It is now in full on propaganda mode to discredit the investigation into the Muslim Trojan Horse plot, presumably with a view to scaring the investigation off coming to the ‘wrong’ conclusion.
I just heard a compliant school governor, and CofE vicar say that his area of Small Heath is one of the most ethnically diverse with a population of 85% Muslim. An interesting use of the word ‘diverse’. My dictionary would not define ‘diverse’ as being when a usually minority group is so concentrated in one area that it becomes an overwhelming majority. My dictionary would call that a ‘concentration’, quite the opposite of ‘diverse’. Is there any possible significance for the investigation in the fact that we now seem to have Muslim ghettoes?
‘Diverse’ in the same sense that Global Warming is ‘real’, the European Union is ‘democratic’, mass immigration is ‘beneficial’ and Israel is a ‘threat’ to the Middle East. Classic doublespeak.
what is it with the CoE? Full of lefties who don’t actually believe in God and just use their positions to push their liberal views
As Good Friday approaches the C of E should reflect upon that and leave off pontificating about social matters.
I am worried about the C of E which never seems to miss an opportunity to defend multiculturalism and proclaim solidarity with muslims. But then, I am becoming increasingly concerned with Jewish organizations who are happily endorsing the interfaith movement, not to mention the Jewish background of Brandeis University who caved into CAIR
It is the job of the progressive fascist tendency in the media, government and public services to implant the notion of the ‘Trojan Horse’ plot as that of being a ‘fake’ or a ‘hoax’ into the minds of the proletariat masses. They know – as does anyone with even an ounce of common sense – that the ‘plot’ was not only real, but has been comprehensively helped at every turn by successive governments wedded to a ‘multicultural’ agenda – ‘multiculturalism’ itself, of course, being a social engineering project which, far from having resulted in a happy, contented ‘multicultural’ society has in fact delivered what it was always going to: incipient ghettoisation of multiple ethnicities, cultures and religious practices and laws/schooling within the UK.
‘Multiculturalism’ (another way of saying we’re ashamed to be British) is a divisive, anti social concept but with the idea of ‘racial integration’ itself now all but outlawed by liberal progressives as a ‘racist’ aspiration (other cultures are not to be ‘integrated’ but are to be ‘celebrated’) we are finally left with the Orwellian prospect of state-enforced, mandated ‘community cohesion’ as the last gasp (and a dangerously hollow one at that) of this grand project to ‘include’ and ‘celebrate’ our wonderful cultural ‘differences’ (including all the tolerant, life-affirming, human rights positives, one assumes, of Sharia Law in British courts).
The fact that Islamists in our midst (and their Dhimmi quislings) might seek to indoctrinate children via the conduit of state education should come as no surprise to anyone who has read their history of the 20th century (because these radical Islamists certainly have, and appear very clearly to have learned its lessons well). From the toxic ideologies of Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Mao and Pol Pot through to the quiet but determined infection of modern day socialist ideologies such as CAGW, taught in our schools and universities as the New Incontrovertible Truth, with no recourse to criticism or factual analysis, huge societal change always starts with the kids.
Why is anyone surprised by any of this? More importantly, why would anyone then be shocked to realise that the fiercely left wing, progressive BBC and the MSM in general seem not just reluctant but palpably hostile to the idea of accurately reporting any of it?
Assuming that this ‘conspiracy’ turns out to be true, what exactly are the authorities going to do about it?
Birmingham’s council leader and Chief Constable can bleat all they like about ‘cohesion’, (more like dhimmitude), but all they are really worried about is losing the Labour vote.
What happens when the Moderate Muslims, (there is no other kind!), form their own political party and win 51% of the city’s seats?
‘We’ made the rules and ‘we’ will have to live with it.
‘Assuming that this ‘conspiracy’ turns out to be true’
On current form, it is pretty likely at least one brain donor from the Flokker Staffel will choose the worst possible day to mock the notion that conspiracies can happen.
When not quoting himself selectively quoting others.
Back in the early 90’s I spent some time talking to a retired Lord Mayor of Birmingham who had been cornered by a muslim councillor and promised that Birmingham would be taken over by muslims who would run the place for the sole benefit of muslims.
Looks like they are succeeding…….. with the assistance of the Labour Party and Chief Constable!
Thank god LBC has gone national on DAB and I am finally being weaned off R5L (apart from the car). Opening issue on LBC at 7am was the Trojan Horse story. Nick Ferrari’s first guest was a Muslim Councillor condemning the appointment. He was allowed to put his case. Suddenly his argument was ripped apart by Ferrari using great journalistic skill. How refreshing to hear someone challenge these people on National Radio. Subsequent Texts and emails were read out and it was commented on that NOT ONE was against the appointment. Compare and contrast to the eggshell treading Islamic apologists on the BBC.
LBC did a great job on the Nigel Farage V Nick “read the small print” Clegg live debate. The BBC had to match it the following fortnight and that meant not loading the audience as it does on QT and having to be impartial. I bet they hated it. Proving that commercial radio can offer quality that the BBC regards as its own preserve. More power to LBC. See if you can pick it up rationally. It p”sses on 5LIES sorry 5LIVE.
What a gift for UKIP, going on the assumption the conspiracy is true, could this become the centrepiece example of a social engineering Labour immigration scheme for all to see.
Then this bBBC operation would have to start reporting facts. It could start by putting some of its licence fee funded investigative teams on the ground to explain why this situation has come about. Instead of pulling in some hapless Vicar to observe “allgood, all good”
And the obvious point: where was all this skepticism when the BBC was carrying water for ‘Tell MAMA’ and the rest of the phony Islamophobia industry?
And that’s without the constant breathless reports about how half of the US is, like, totally raaaacist, but they’re just hiding it really well.
….and by the way, we’ve just had the first anniversary of right wing tea party nut jobs attacking the Boston Marathon…
Right, BBC?
Anyone remember Roy Honeyford? Sacked for telling the truth.
Ray Honeyford
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099068/Bradford-headmaster-Ray-Honeyford–hounded-warning-perils-multiculturalism–dies-saddened-vindicated-man.html
Truly a prophet in his own land
It’s right to point out that the letter hasn’t been authenticated, and you haven’t made a connection between the MCB document and ‘Trojan Horse’.
Bloddy Muslims eh?
‘It’s right to point out that the letter hasn’t been authenticated…’
Eh, the BBC can be rigorous when they want! Or should that be ‘when it suits’?
Still, it makes little difference as Gilligan’s investigations have proven – all part of the same crock of Islamising shite.
Sorry, forgot – and how rude of me – hiya Dez! (Another identity crisis I see. So sad…)
It’s hardly ‘rigorous’, just absolutely pertinent.
Hiya johnnythefish/Alan/David Vance.
The following poster hangs in the Madani Schools in Leicester. The sort of thing Islam has in store for other schools:
http://vladtepesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Music-is-haraam-UK-school.jpg
“MUSIC | HARAAM
Listening to Music is Haraam and a Sin
Stay away from evil acts such as listening to music and encourage others to do the same too!
Music is a tool of Shaytan (Satan)
The playing of musical instruments and listening to them is Haraam
According to the Law [of Allah] one who participates in music is regarded as a Fasiq (Sinful person)
One of the harms of music is that it distracts one from his Creator.
The messages of today’s music follow a general theme of love, drugs, and freedom
Appearance of music and stringed instruments is [sic] a cause of Allah’s anger
It is a tool of Shaytan (Satan) by which he attracts people to commit wrongful acts”
I’ve just discovered it’s come from here, the Dawah motherlode. Priceless stuff:
http://www.islamicposters.co.uk/