on a BBC reporter’s Mid-East handiwork:
‘it is so completely wrong that it can only signal an ignorance so profound that its author has no place anywhere near news scripts – or a bias which is equally profound.’
I know from memory that this is not the first time the BBC have misrepresented a certain Mr Barghouti.
Looking at the BBC website I can see the BBC’s attitude is to pretty unrelentingly downplay Barghouti’s crimes. They describe him ‘currently serving five life sentences on terrorism charges in an Israeli prison’. Excuse me Auntie, but wasn’t he convicted of five counts of murder? Isn’t it also normal to describe people convicted as serving sentences for the crimes they were convicted of, rather than the charges originally brought(even assuming one had accurately related them)? Can it be the BBC don’t trust the Israeli legal system- the one which ordered Ariel Sharon to re-route his wall? And anyway, what place does the BBC’s trust or mistrust of the Israeli legal system have in their function as a new provider?
It looks to me that the BBC are trying to help anoint a new Arafat. The king is dead (Arafat), long live the king (Barghouti):
‘But it is believed that he is the most popular Palestinian leader. He is seen by many as a hero and a major figure in the fight against Israeli occupation, our correspondent says.
He has been described as charismatic and determined, and was often thought of as a natural successor to Arafat, our correspondent adds.’
redken
The best telcoms and IP, MPLS gear is mostly American. NOT European.
And the best pure VoIP gear is Sonus – not any of the old S or European dinosaurs.
Methinks you are out-of-date !
GORK: check it out:
Germany’s unemployment rate rises again, to 10.8 percent:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4061257.stm
There would be rioting in the street in the US if our unemployment rate was this high.
susan, JohninLondon, no, I don’t see.
Mr/Ms anon mentioned ‘ undereducated, unsophisticated… of the borderline third world American ‘heartland’. “‘
to which susan’s response was (snip some stuff) but.. ‘I have an excellent wine cellar’
that’s why i laughed. responding to being called ‘ undereducated (and) unsophisticated’ with ‘i have an excellent wine cellar’ is indeed beyond parody.
Are we to assume that people without an ‘excellent wine cellar’ are undereducated and unsophisticated?
lol, again. Where is wine mentioned?
Well, wine drinking doesn’t usually go with “undereducated, unsophisticated, evil obsessed religious nutters of the borderline third world American ‘heartland’.” For one thing, it’s rather expensive, and clearly, in Anon’s mind, the “third world American religious nutters” of Anon’s rather fertile imagination aren’t exactly flush with cash or worldy enough to know a cabernet from a merlot.
It was quick way of pointing out to Anon. how off target he was with the insults he directed at me.
I do think you have a cognitive disorder after all, steve. That’s the second time you’ve responded to something I posted while missing the context rather completely.
Susan – nope, still don’t get it.
What’s alcohol posesion or consumption got to do with education, sophistication, or religion?
What about the fact that your wine’s ‘rather expensive’? What does that tell me about your views? The fact that you have money to buy wine? Well done. Go to the top of the class.
How does the fact that you can afford wine, or are ‘worldy enough to know a cabernet from a merlot’, mean that I, or Mr/Ms Anon, or anyone else, shoud listen to you? Why did that answer his/ her points? Who mentioned wine? You did, in response to a completely unrelated question. Read the thread back. Unless one associates wine with sophistication (what are you, Frank Sinatra in 1942?), the ‘wine cellar’ comes from nowhere – hence my OP.
(cont..)
Why does my asking how this relates to your/ his/her original points mean tha t I have a ‘cognitive disorder’?
Because I disagreed with you? Because I don’t drink? Because I do/don’t have enough money to buy (‘excellent’) wine?
This is way OT, and I apologise to anyone actually reading this
steve
I think you completely missed the point. You are being obtuse – maybe deliberately. And also obsessive.
Why not give it a rest ?
Susan,
As you are from the rather pleasant California you are clearly not part of the American ‘heartland’ to which I originally referred and I apologise for this slander.
Given that you have an ‘excellent’ wine cellar, however, I assume you have broken the spiritual US embargo against French goods. Very poor.
Touché!
And Los Angeles isn’t at all pleasant…
redken
If you can’t find fun and pleasant times in Los Angeles, you clearly hang out in the wrong places
Maybe I couldn’t see them due to the smog.
redken
You obviously stayed in somewhere like South Central, where smog can be thick. nd visited in the wrong season.
I stay with rich folks, near the beach or in the Santa monica mountains. People with wine cellars. Beats slummin’ it.
“I stay with rich folks”
Ah, but of course! I would expect nothing less.
redken
Don’t get all pompous – can’t ypou see humour ?
If I move inj decent circles now, it is because I fought my way up from nowhere. The American way. And what used to be the British meritocracy way.
If you prefer South Central LA, that’s fine.
Three cheers for Susan. You seem like a breath of sense against the shallow Eurobigots!
Anyway, what does anyone think of this?
The dollar is being kept weak by King Alan G. as a punishment to European lefties and terrorist huggers. This will evenutally mean that although it’s cheap to travel to the US and buy goods there now, the worm will soon turn as Americans stop buying Arab oil and overpriced Euro crap. That’s why economists are saying the Euro and £ slide will soon start.
Does the bbc report this? Do they even understand it?
Anon:
“Given that you have an ‘excellent’ wine cellar, however, I assume you have broken the spiritual US embargo against French goods. Very poor.”
No thanks. I drink California wine of course, with an occasional assist from the Oregonians and the Australians (of course the Ozzies are REAL allies unlike the French, and make excellent wine at very attractive prices.) I don’t like typical French wine — it’s too watery and weak. Americans like “big” wines with a high alcohol content. A high-end Zinfandel for instance has about 17-18 percent Alcohol content while a typical French red wine has about 9-10 percent.
But, no need to buy “French” to get French quality here, if you go for that sort of thing: all the big houses have properties in Northern California: Baron Rothschild, Roederer Cristal, Domaine Chandon, Tattingers, etc. Where they will undoubtedly flee when the Islamonutters take over in France for good and burn all the ancient vineyards in Bordeaux.
PS Gork — CA has the strictest environmental regulations in the world. Beats the Kyoto Accords by a country mile. I hear that Tone-boy is looking at copying our carpool-only lanes for your “motorways.”