Comment roundup 3

“John”notes It’s My Story, 9 minutes in*:

“It’s My Story : The Vietnamese Buddha

Documentary about a Buddhist master returning to Vietnam for the first time since the war. Discussing the Buddhist monks who immolated themselves in protest at the Vietnam war the presenter drops in this staggering bit of amoral relativism:

‘I kind of think about what happened at 9/11 and I suppose I’m trying to figure out how that’s kind of different’

What kind of question is that to ask for anyone with any moral sense whatsoever?

Though I suppose both the Buddhist monks and the 9/11 hijackers committed suicide protesting the Imperialism of the evil Americans so it IS a tricky conundrum in the mind of a presenter impregnated with the BBC/Guardian/Independent worldview to say who’s better or worse.”

I suppose we should be thankful the presenter is at least aware that there may actually be a difference…

*Not double-checked by B-BBC

“disillusioned_german” complains to the BBC about The Christmas Resistance. Yesterday, this was hyperlinked from the news front page with the heading “Bah humbug!” (from memory – gone now).

Although every news organisation peddles these sorts of Christmas stories every year (in the US under the “War on Christmas” palaver, whereas in the UK and Australia it is more normally with an amused “human interest”/eccentricity angle), I think the broader point might be fair. Eid and Diwali etc etc never get subjected to this sort of questioning. When the BBC starts giving equal time to people like the brilliant Irshad Manji (BBC treatment here), who represents an important reforming strain in Islam (like The Times does with Salman Rushdie, for example), then pieces like this and the Whine about Christmas would be OK.*

*This is hardly some world service issue irrelevant to BBC UK programming – although Muslims only make up 3.1% of the E&W population, the issue is well covered by White City. (Then again, UK government institutions have always had a thing for romantic Arabism, and pro-Islam-ism may seep out from there).

I think the deeper issue is not that there is some lapidary, monolithic “Let’s attack whitey” stance in the BBC, but more that the “institutionalised multi-culturalism” is so pervasive that the “oh so clever” 20 year-old baby Beeboid just out of university who is assigned to write this Christmas dross lives in a world that can’t possibly contemplate that some might wonder why his cynicism over a Christian religious festival shouldn’t equally be applied to a festival celebrated by a religion whose adherents have more melanin in their skin than Pat Robertson.

On the issue of Islam, “the_camp_commandant” notes the confusion when two PC shibboleths collide. Same sex domestic partnerships in the UK are truly newsworthy. In coverage of the Belfast ceremonies, the BBC had quotations from Christians protesting about hellfire etc etc, and a Catholic cardinal about the Catholic view of the issue. I have never seen a quotation from an imam on Islam’s view. I wonder why?

USS Neverdock on more BB Blankety Blanks.

“Ritter” notes Christians accused of homophobia which seems to be a local news beat-up about police harrassment of two old people for breaching groupthink rules (this is becoming a pattern), while a perfunctory search about those executions of young gay men in Islamic Iran was pretty uninformative.

“Ritter” links to Ray Snoddy on the changing media landscape.

“Rob White” and “Lizzie” think Christmas after Katrina: Part One and Christmas after Katrina: Part two are worse respectively.

“Steve” notes 262 BBC Execs earn over £100,000.

“Rob White” looks forward to 2006:

“Starting on 4 January, 2006, Matt Frei will be writing a fortnightly diary from Washington for the BBC News website.”

“Roy” notes:

“Seems that Frei is joined by BBC’s Daniela Relph in Washington who provided this article on the renewal of the Patriot Act.

The American Expatriate explains that the BBC are calling the result after 90 minutes, when the match is going into extra time, with more support for Bush’s position than the BBC will credit.”

The Expat discussses BBC reporting on ID. To be fair, the US is an exremely complex country, where you can find whatever you are looking for (the cleverest people, the dumbest people, the fattest/most health-freaky people, the most Christian/most depraved people etc). However, a basic knowledge of the US system ought to cover things like federal/state/county/parish devolution of power and the consitutional structure. Why is it OK for the BBC and other PC lefties to generalise about the US, but not, for example, about Muslims or black people? Like Jews, the US and Americans are fast becoming the blank slate upon which the rest of the world unfairly, illogically and irrationally projects its own prejudices and nightmares.

“Rob Read” plays BB Blankety Blanks with this article about those postal workers – I wonder why the scare quotes:

‘Up to £5m was pilfered from 1,300 “mainly Jewish” residents in Golders Green, north London, alone.

Because of the large number of victims, both they and police initially feared the community was being “targeted because of religion”, but that concern was “misplaced”.’

The scare quotes are unnecessary and cause the cynical to assume something worse – replace “Jewish” with “black” or “Muslim” (mutatis mutandis).

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133 Responses to Comment roundup 3

  1. Rob J White says:

    Sorry that was me who posted above.

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  2. roy says:

    That’s the trouble with the “intellectual” ruling classes

    Also they will deprive themselves of nothing to reduce energy use, but hate the lumpen enjoying the benefits of modern life.

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  3. Anonymous says:

    The BBC’s coverage of the Pope’s Xmas message:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4558956.stm

    Whereas the English transcript is here:

    http://www.oecumene.radiovaticana.org/en1/Articolo.asp?Id=60284

    Strange how the BBC’s report mentions Iraq, Lebanon and the Holy Land, yet omits mention of Darfur, a place explicitly mentioned by the pontiff (and he mentioned it before he referred to those other places).

    The BBC just can’t get it into their heads that some (prominent) people are most peturbed by the Darfur atrocities, yet the Beeb just airbrushes it out of the Pope’s speech.

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  4. disillusioned_german says:

    Libya lifts ‘HIV medics’ sentence
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4558844.stm

    A few points:

    1. Why doesn’t the BBC state in this report that the death-penalty is indeed barbaric? Firing-squad, eh? Very humane.

    2. Which Westerner in their right mind would work in a Muslim country? Have your say anyone?

    3. Confessions extracted under torture! What’s that? The CIA or Guantanamo Bay??? Outcries from the BBC? No, course not. Wasn’t the Yanks so that’s fine.

    4. “The medics also presented the testimony of Western medical experts, who said the outbreak started before they arrived and was probably caused by unhygienic practices.”

    Ah – no Western plot then

    5. “The verdict comes at a time when negotiations on financial compensation have been taking place between the families of the infected children, a Bulgarian NGO and the EU.”

    But the EU is still prepared to pay compensation!

    This piece is – in short – a great overview of the Beeb’s agenda. Taken by itself it’s not worrying. If you happen to have “information at your fingertips” though it’s interesting to see how much bias they manage to put into one article.

    P.S.: Before anyone asks if the “Relatives of the children (who) want the death penalty upheld” are Methodists… according to the CIA Factbook 97 percent of Libya’s population are “Sunni muslims”.

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  5. disillusioned_german says:

    Bar blaze kills 25 in south China
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4559490.stm

    “…Fires are a frequent occurrence in bars, hotels and discos in China, correspondents say…”

    Okay, I’m expecting a monthly column from Mr. Frei telling us about the connection between socialism and fires in China.

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  6. daniel says:

    a tsunami of programmes on the anniversary of the event.sure many may be interested but surely the coverage is over the top.

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  7. Bryan says:

    Fascinating story, that Libyan aids one is. Here’s how the blame game goes:

    Hundreds of children in hospital contract AIDS because

    a) Hygiene is poor
    b) Monitoring of donated blood for transfusions is poor
    c) Syringe needles are reused
    d) Infected mothers transfer the virus to their babies at birth
    e) All of the above

    When the scale of AIDS becomes apparent, parents of the infected children start pointing fingers and hospital authorities try to squirm out of their responsibilities by finding scapegoats. Enter the Bulgarian nurses, Palestinian doctor and Libyan ‘judicial’ system.

    Enter a guilt-ridden international community prepared to pay the families ‘compensation’ for what is primarily the responsibility of the Libyans themselves.

    Enter the BBC. Watch them carefully tread as if on eggshells around this story. Watch them avoid the slightest hint of condemnation of Libya over this grotesque miscarriage of justice.

    Why? Because Libyans are the BBC’s three sacred cows rolled into one:

    African
    Arab
    Muslim

    Here is some info that BBC hacks could find at the click of a mouse if they weren’t so bone idle and PC. (My emphasis in bold):

    Libya’s epidemic has been growing dramatically, with almost 90% of the officially reported 5160 HIV infections among Libyans (at end-2002) having occurred in 2000–2002 alone. The vast majority—over 90%—of reported HIV cases are attributed to injecting drug use, and about 50% of drug users receiving treatment in Tripoli’s Tajourah rehabilitation centre were HIV-positive in 2003. Although increasing numbers of immigrants and migrants from sub-Saharan African countries have been seeking AIDS treatment, the majority of patients are Libyan nationals. Most drug injecting is believed to be occurring in the capital, Tripoli, with heroin the drug of choice. It is likely that restrictions placed on the sale of needles and syringes at pharmacies in the late 1990s have increased the use of non-sterile injecting equipment, thereby heightening the risk of HIV transmission (Tawilah and Ball, 2003). Trends currently visible underline the need to expand and integrate HIV prevention and AIDS care services for injecting drug users. Overall, however, a more robust understanding of the epidemic’s trends and patterns is vital if the apparent surge in the epidemic is to be halted. Unfortunately, there is currently a lack of systematic HIV surveillance and AIDS data collection (following the regionalization of health services in the late 1990s).

    As long as PC rules, the BBC and others will hinder efforts to raise awareness of the causes and prevention of AIDS.

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  8. mrdgriff says:

    19 December 2005 BBC Forced To Pay Libel Damages To Police Officers A High Court in London today ruled in favour of eight Metropolitan Police officers that were dubbed guilty of murdering Roger Sylvester on a BBC radio broadcast.

    http://www.lawdit.co.uk/reading_room/room/view_article.asp?name=../articles/BBC%20Forced%20To%20Pay%20Libel%20Damages%20To%20Police%20Officers.htm

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  9. roy says:

    Re disillusioned_german’s link to fire in China.

    The BBC headline is

    Christmas blaze kills 26 in China

    What has the story got to do with Christmas?

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  10. dave t says:

    Back on the subject of terrorism:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/4559468.stm

    Hain has a go at the Tories yet he and the BBC forget that if Labour MPs had supported many of the anti terrorist measures put before Parliament during the 70s and 80s by both Labour and Tory governemnts then the war would have been over years ago and those responsible for murder and mayhem would be suitably punished. Now that Labour are in the hot seat he whinges because the Tories do not want murderers to go free?!!!(AND most of the other parties – which you don’t find out until the very end of the article…!)

    This from the party of Red Ken and others such as Corbyn who used to bring IRA thugs to Parliament for tea and toast etc? How DO Hain and the BBC keep a straight face with this sort of rubbish?

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  11. roy says:

    19 December 2005 BBC Forced To Pay Libel Damages To Police Officers

    The BBC applied to this matter their normal course of poltical reporting.

    i.e Just hear from witnesses from one side of the argument.

    Of course the BBC made the mistake in this affair of picking on a target that would respond with writs.

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  12. xj says:

    daniel: I suspect the main reason for all the tsunami retrospectives is that it is the depths of winter and a whole load of TV producers quite fancy a nice trip to somewhere sunny. It will be interesting to see if there is the same coverage of the first anniversary of the Pakistan earthquake.

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  13. Ritter says:

    This is just bizarre & twisted:

    “From our own Correspondent”
    By Humphrey Hawksley

    The boy who lives on a rubbish tip
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4553044.stm

    Have a read of the article.

    What is the message?…..democracy is bad? Compared to what? What was Morocco like before democracy? What has the US got to do with governing Morocco?

    Nothing, but remember – according to the BBC – the US is to blame. For everything.

    The standard on journalism here is just abysmal. By following the reasoning displayed by the BBC’s Humphrey Hawksley in this article, you can take any example of poverty in any country in the world and link its cause back to the USA and it’s foreign policy. Come to my home city in the UK and at Christmas time there are plenty of examples of street beggars looking for spare coins. Is this the fault of US foreign policy?

    But this is the childish standard of reporting we have come to expect the biased BBC and in particluar, “From our own Adolescent”.

    If you want some facts about Morocco, you could go here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco
    (includes links to blogs on Morocco)

    or here:

    Morocco
    http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mo.html

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  14. roy says:

    Further to Ritter’s topic above –

    I saw a few minutes of Hawksley’s article televised on BBC News24 earlier today.

    He found a former US female diplomat who runs “Rick’s Bar” (a la Casablanca).

    As a former State Dept person it was no surprise to hear her rubbish the current US administration.

    But I was left wondering how her finding fault with the US pressure for democracy, female education & emancipation was good for her business.

    How long until her bar is just selling Mecca Cola?

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  15. roy says:

    I see Jeff Randall has a column in The Daily Telegraph. No reference to his position as BBC Business Editor.

    The BBC site search doesn’t indicate he has left that position, but it made me realise that I hadn’t seen an on screen report from him in many months.

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  16. mrdgriff says:

    It’s tough at the top, a look back

    Times Online January 11, 2004

    Jeremy Clarkson

    Volvo XC90

    Alan Yentob of the BBC called me in desperation the other day. He’d been quoted an 18-month wait for an XC90, which, after I called in a few favours and dropped a few names, was shortened to 17 months. “That really is the best we can do,” said the lady from Volvo HQ.

    Price: £30,120
    Verdict: Handles like a bread and butter pudding, but an ideal family car nonetheless

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  17. Umbongo says:

    OT

    A few gems from Andrew Marr’s “Start the Week”: apparently anyone wishing the UK to leave the EU – or even suggest that the EU might not be that wonderful – is committing one of the great blunders of history (a la Barbara Tuchman), the US is and has been to blame for everything in the world; China (the home of democracy and surely our hope for the future) is the world’s scientific and intellectual powerhouse. Now the point I would make here is not that these assertions may or may not be true but that they were completely unchallenged. Consequently the programme was not only a gusrdianista rant but worse – because there was no discussion, only the delivery of the received opinion of the chattering classes – boring in the extreme.

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  18. disillusioned_german says:

    Good point, Roy – and one I missed… Obviously very few Chinese actually celebrate Christmas because very few Chinese are Christians (3 – 4 % percent according to the CIA Factbook) – yet the BBC somehow make the connection to Christmas. The fact that this subtly implies a connection with Christmas has to be noted (okay, maybe I sound like a conspiracy theorist now but the Beeb’s headline isn’t in order because it sounds like the blaze happened because of Christmas)

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  19. Neil says:

    “Eid blaze kills 26 in China”

    I don’t think so.

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  20. Mark says:

    O/T

    This is how the Radio Times (the Beeb’s commerical arm) described the documentary ‘Outfoxed’.

    Didn’t mention anything about what happens when a state news organisation follows its own agenda.

    Full Disclosure: The above is a link to my own site. The Radio Times isn’t available online so I copied the text and printed it on my blog.

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  21. Mark says:

    Well it would have been a link to my own site, I’ve never seen the page that links too. I’ll try again.

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  22. mrdgriff says:

    Re tsunami replays, look forward to Katrina revisited.

    Blair attacks BBC for ‘anti-US bias’

    James Robinson, David Smith and Ned Temko
    Sunday September 18, 2005
    The Observer

    Tony Blair has denounced the BBC’s coverage of Hurricane Katrina as ‘full of hatred of America’ and ‘gloating’ at the country’s plight, it was reported yesterday.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/katrina/story/0,16441,1572742,00.html#article_continue

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  23. disillusioned_german says:

    Couldn’t they bury this one or didn’t they want to do it?

    Cardinals issue marriage warning
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4559990.stm

    It ends with: “Some Muslim scholars have expressed surprise at the Vatican documents and Italian liberal groups have also criticised them.”

    Ah, liberals and muslims on the same wavelength. Surprise, surprise!

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  24. mrdgriff says:

    Matt Frei discovers Intelligent Design in America. BBC News on the Intelligent Design controversy in Dover, Pennsylvania. Matt Frei

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4546610.stm

    apparently characterised the ID debate as funded and fueled by fundamentalists.
    Staging the first part of his report from the Gettysburg Battefield, he said, “Not since the civil war [sic] was fought right here has America been as divided as it is today about some really fundamental issues.

    “Then of course it was all about slavery and states’ rights.

    “Today, amongst other things, it is about the role of God in society, the separation of church and state – strange issues you might say for a modern, industrialised nation.”

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  25. Socialism is Necrotizing says:

    By steaing my cash to fund its “entertainment”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4560594.stm

    Big effing deal!

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  26. mrdgriff says:

    Ratings. TV execs appear to think Saturday night is pub night so nothing worth watching is shown at weekends. Weekdays are different. Then all the most watchable programmes are put on at the same time, in an effort to poach market share from rivals. The BBC is supposed to be a Public Broadcaster, why then do they engage in this pointless frippery while the paying customer is unable to make an informed choice because of inflexible scheduling?

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  27. Roxana Cooper says:

    “Cardinals issue marriage warning
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world…ope/ 4559990.stm”

    The Cardinals are of course dead right. Many Western women have had bitter experience of Muslim marriage and the inequities imposed upon women in sharia law are definitely cause for concern.

    How likely is it that a Catholic woman would be permitted to continue practicing her faith in a Muslim community or country? How likely that she would be allowed to teach its precepts to her children??

    Islam at this moment in history does not have a good reputation for inclusiveness and tolerance. Or for women’s rights either. It isn’t just the Cardinals who should be worried. If Liberals really believed what they claim to believe *they* should be just as concerned!

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  28. Susan says:

    O/T but does anybody remember the hateful (D)HYS thread that was started up last year shortly after the Boxing Day Tsunami, inviting the Moonbat Community to pile on Bush for trying to bypass the UN and deliver aid directly to the impacted nations without UN coordination(along with a coalition of Australia, India, and Japan)? Remember the obnoxious Clare Short braying that Bush had no “moral authority” to deliver tsunami aid independent of the UN?

    Any apologies now that it has been found that the UN has spent one third of tsunami aid funds on its own “overhead”? (Like a new Porsche for Kofi Junior, perhaps?)

    Apologies to the US and other coalition of the ready partners from the tranzi elite, including especially from one of their most important mountpieces — al-Beeb?

    Thought not.

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  29. Susan says:

    And of course, time to revisit the infamous, “Did the US cause the tsunami” topic on (D)HYS.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4149637.stm#Video

    Surely a stellar moment in Beeboid “journalism”, along with the post-911 “Question Time.”

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  30. amimissingsomething says:

    What has the story got to do with Christmas?
    roy | 26.12.05 – 10:55 am |

    because it’s negative! or was yours a rhetorical question?

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  31. disillusioned_german says:

    Still no (D)HYS on the ‘Cardinals issue marriage warning’ story… Shame!

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  32. Bryan says:

    The BBC is obsessed with the tsunami. They had wall to wall coverage of it on the World Service the entire day, and led with it on every newscast.

    Takes me back a year to a US ship that had sailed to the Indonesian coast to provide essential aid such as clean water. A whiny, petulant BBC reporter interviewed the ship’s commander, asking him how he could possibly provide enough water to make a difference. The commander calmly assured him that his ship could provide a great deal of water.

    I learned on the Internet that day that the ship had the capacity to produce a continuous supply of desalinated water in vast quantities. I don’t suppose that this fact is widely known and I don’t blame the reporter for being in blissful ignorance of it, but I do blame him for his negativity and lack of respect towards a man who had steered his ship into hostile waters out of purely humanitarian motives.

    It’s as if the BBC is under mass hypnosis regarding America.

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  33. Rob Read says:

    A super blank BBC saturnalia special.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4561052.stm

    For Britain’s sake, please DONT pay the TV-tax.

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  34. Socialism is Necrotizing says:

    The BBC is Tsunami obsessed because it is a great opportunity to play he big white bwana to lots of helpless brown people.
    How touching. Bwana Broadcast Company.

    (funded by extortion)

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  35. roy says:

    A-ha the BBC have spotted that the Kyoto signatories are a collection of pathetic poseurs.

    Europe ‘behind on Kyoto pledges’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4561576.stm

    The UK is almost alone in Europe in honouring Kyoto pledges to cut greenhouse gases, a think-tank claims.

    The (“failing”) countries include Ireland, Italy and Spain.

    France, Greece and Germany are given an “amber warning” and will not reach targets unless they put planned policies into action

    The BBC do not however spell out just how insignificant are the efforts required from some of these countries (as the Kyoto target was designed as an EC bloc, with the UK & Germany expected to do all the heavy lifting). So were reductions expected from say Ireland, Spain or France? No

    Ireland could “meet Kyoto” if it only raised emissions by 13%, Spain by increasing by 15% & France, magnificent as ever, had a target of no change.

    Still, we know why the Euro-poseurs are not making the effort. The BBC just has to tell us

    The Kyoto commitments have been undermined, critics say, because the US – the world’s biggest emitter of greenhouse gases – has refused to sign up to the treaty.

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  36. the_camp_commandant says:

    Roy,

    The whole Kyoto thang is a truly hilarious farce. There is no way, just absolutely no way in the world, that the EU (or Japan) is ever in a trillion years going to meet its Kyoto emissions target. The EU hasn’t a prayer.

    So what has the EU done? It has cut a deal with that nice Mr. Putin, whose industry has collapsed and who therefore has oodles of emission credits he doesn’t need. The EU, or rather you and I through our taxes, will balance its emissions position by buying credits off Russia. And what will the price be? Well, Mr. Putin hasn’t decided that yet!

    But you can be absolutely sure that by 2012, after pissing and moaning since 1997 that the US wasn’t reducing its emissions, the EU is going to be jolly embarrassed if it misses its target too. I mean the BBC/EU/Labour can hate the US all they like but it can’t be the USA’s fault that the EU has blown its Kyoto targets, can it?

    So Putin can name any price he wants, really. Personally, I reckon he will want 100 billion Euros. It’s a nice round number and if you do the “It’s only xx per day” thing, BBC-license-stylee, it can be made to sound quite cheap by surrender monkeys like Blair.

    He will then repudiate Kyoto once he’s got the money, on the quite accurate grounds that it’s a bullshit farce which will beggar him and achieve nothing. Our money will then be used to regenerate Russia.

    A responsible broadaster would be giving Kyoto the royal clenched fisking it deserves, right up to the elbow, and not just echoing the Strasbourg Eurowhine about the US.

    The only way the EU could ever materially reduce emissions would be to do to its economy what Thatcher did to the UK’s in the 1980s: close down rustbelt manufacturing, leave it to third world countries to manufacture low value widgets and volume cars such as BMWs, and trade up to high-value services.

    Of course, this is not something the EU (nor hence al-BBC) wants to hear about.

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  37. jx says:

    the bbc fail to mention the IPPR’s political leaning (i.e in Nu Labour’s back pocket) in that article. no suprise there then.

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  38. daniel says:

    hard talk with hollywood actor gave bbc another opportunity to bash america.
    i do not know how they actually got there but i think it may have soemthing to do with stem-cells research.

    the bbc is insane spiteful and blind.does the bbc really think that its viewers love this vituperative rhetoric?

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  39. daniel says:

    xj
    thanks for the comment.
    i like michael crichton’s remark that environtalism is the new religion of the western elites.

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  40. Anonymous says:

    At time of writing, the BBC Online mainpage has a story about Kerry Packer moving into the Macau gambling industry (Nov. 2004) – prettyy obsolete in view of Packer’s death.

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  41. Anonymous says:

    Socialism is Necrotizing

    The BBC is Tsunami obsessed because it is a great opportunity to play he big white bwana to lots of helpless brown people.

    True. And when they concentrate on the Middle East they all turn into little Lawrences, leading the hordes of Arabia into battle across the sand dunes on majestic steeds.

    Barf Broadcasting Coorporation

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  42. Bryan says:

    Er… that was me

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  43. roy says:

    One of the BBC’s commercial operations (though perhaps that is “commercial”, being a subsidised venture to spoil the competition) is a history magazine.

    The BBC have got a panel of historians to name the worst 10 Britons of the last 1000 years.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4561624.stm

    A surprise inclusion is perhaps St Thomas a Beckett.

    However the Telegraph quotes one of the contributing historians saying this of Beckett

    Despite his canonisation following his murder in Canterbury Cathedral, Becket was a founder of “gesture politics with the most acute of eyes for what would now be called the photo opportunity”, said Prof Hudson.

    More tellingly, he said, Becket carried over his personal greed and arrogance as Henry II’s chancellor into his role as Archbishop of Canterbury, where he caused as much trouble as he could between Church and State. He was also a lawyer.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/27/nhate27.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/27/ixnewstop.html

    Sounds to me like a BBC hero, Joseph Wilson.

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  44. roy says:

    Serbia ‘cannot locate’ fugitive

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4561742.stm

    The BBC’s stable of tame interviewees frequently trot out one of the anti-war staples, that the US going into Iraq has resulted in the failure to get Bin Laden.

    The BBC interviewer never sees fit to counter with the apparent difficulty in apprehending war criminals, as evidenced by the much longer period of freedom enjoyed by Ratko Mladic & Radovan Karadzic

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  45. mrdgriff says:

    Bin Laden appears emasculated by non-appearance. Apprehending and Neutralising are different. Russia is in Checnya but cannot yet withdraw, do we get BBC programmes asking when are the Russian occupying troops going to come home?

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  46. mrdgriff says:

    On the tsunami and Katrina. Beeboids cannot comprehend that natural disasters are likely to affect those most at risk. Seafarers have always known the dangers of the cruel sea. If you live on the beach you run the risk of a tidal or storm wave. If you live below sea level you risk being drowned. If you live in hurricane corridor you can have your house blown down. If you live near a volcano you can get boiled in molten lava.
    Islam is teaching tsunami survivors that Allah punished them for their sins. Does the BBC counter this argument and explain that the high loss of life was due to Thai beaches being a European tourist attraction?
    Normally only a few fishermen would live there, would it be newsworthy then? Also why this mix up between human disaster and natural disaster?

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  47. mrdgriff says:

    Thinking about it, the BBC won’t counter Islam on the punishment of sins because it appears to wallow in the gratification of Katrina being Americas punishment for it’s sins.

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  48. GCooper says:

    I’m glad roy has picked-up the nonsense from BBC History, which I tried to comment on this morning, only to find my ability to do so being blocked on here. An IP address problem?

    In the interim, the ridiculous quote from the Professor at Birkbeck has vanished from the BBC’s site, along with the entire story – just as well as it was another fine example of BBC/Guardianistaspeak.

    Now, old Ozzie Mosely may not have been the nicest of people (prior to developing his fixation with jackboots he’d been Labour MP, after all!), but the ‘Worst Briton of the 20th Century’?!?

    What about Burgess, Philby or McLean? And I doubt the shades of Fred West or Harold Shipman would let such an accolade go unremarked!

    It’s this sort of nonsense that exposes the intellectual flaws in the BBC and its fellow travellers. How could one possibly trust the work of an academic whose judgement is so skewed by political biases? Or of the magazine and organsation that promotes them?

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  49. disillusioned_german says:

    Just did some channel hopping and came across a “drama” on ITV: The English Harem… I couldn’t bring myself to watch it but I was wondering if anyone on here had and what the message of the programme was? Glorification of polygamy???

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  50. Denise says:

    mrdgriff

    On what you said about the tsunami and Katrina and the risks people take living in certain areas, exactly. Good old fashioned common sense tells us that but it’s obvious the Beeb doesn’t have any.

    As for Islam’s teaching, if it were Christians saying God was punishing people for their sins, we’d never hear the end of it now, would we?

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