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“John Reith” returns!
Good principle. Why not apply it to all the loony-toons conspiracy theories about so-called BBC bias that so disfigure this blog?
Good idea. Most of the BBC’s output is part hoax and part virus.
In fact we do check, that’s what annoys you ;-Þ
Really Biased BBC reporting.
On the ‘South Asian’ BBc web site. Al Beeb runs a report on how 3 Para took out 21 Plumbers who decided to run riot on a town.
Even I must admit Al Beeb is really scrapping the Barrel with this one;
“British commanders say it is significant that the Taleban stood and fought and that they earned the grudging respect of the parachute regiment soldiers.
According to British sources, the Afghan police fired indiscriminately putting civilians at risk and when confronted by the Taleban they broke and ran.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5062828.stm
So let me get this right Al Beeb, Terrorists attack a civilian town and because the police fought back, they placed civilians at risk. Just think Al Beeb if the Taliban hadn’t opened fire, or pushed out woman and children in front of them as human shields. (As per the British soldier report on this incident from the BBC)
Then maybe, just maybe those civilians may not have been put at risk?
BioD
“The simplest solution of all is to use a Mac.”
Well, at least we agree about something.
I see no-one has disagreed with Gary Powell’s statement:
‘Korova
We had a Conservative government for 18 glorious years in that time we had one war that lasted less then 3 months.’
One for the accuracy in non-M media awards.
How Baised BBC promotes an image of Islamophobia in which to support its ideological masters.
“Anti-terror police have raided the home of a Muslim cleric known in his community for moderate views.
Maulana Yakub Munshi is a community leader in Dewsbury with a reputation for preaching peace.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/5064290.stm
And how the Yorkshire post reports on this story;
“POLICE are investigating whether a Yorkshire man and schoolboy arrested on terrorism charges were in-volved in planning an attack.
Their inquiry is also understood to be looking at whether the 16-year-old from Dewsbury and man aged 21 from Bradford were being groomed by extremists.
The youth, described by friends as an A-grade student, is said to have logged on to extremist websites. He had been under surveillance by West Yorkshire Police and MI5 for some time.
Police are also investigating links with an alleged
terrorist plot in Canada, where the Bradford man’s fiancée lives.
The teenager, grandson of a respected Islamic scholar, was arrested on Wednesday after police questioned the 21-year-old at Manchester Airport on Tuesday evening.
Yesterday police were searching his home and a second property also owned by his parents. His grandfather’s house, with a large library, was also raided.”
http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=55&ArticleID=1554803
and how the Dewsbury Reporter tells the story;
“A 16-year-old Dewsbury youth is still being questioned under the Terrorism Act following police raids in Savile Town on Wednesday.
The Reporter understands police arrested the teenager at school at around 3pm on Wednesday.
At the same time, police raided three addresses in Savile Town belonging to the youth’s family – two in Warren Street and one in South Street.
More than 20 police officers guarded the Warren Street addresses as forensic police specialists began their painstaking search on Wednesday.
Teams of about 12 officers have been combing each of the properties for evidence.”
http://www.dewsburytoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=28&ArticleID=1553250
So the real story is that a young man who it appears was getting groomed to do something nasty in the UK happens to be the grandson of the so called peace loving cleric. But instead of stating that in the story Al Beeb runs with a persecution story in which to rile the masses on this the most holy day for Islam by leading with this headline;
Cleric targeted by terror police
Shame on you Al Beeb.
pounce, I just listened to the audio link on that page. Sounds to me the Paras performed bloody marvelously! In a six hour engagement they took no casualties despite being ambushed with RPGs – one of the paras talks about a plumber pushing women and kids out in front of him.
Listen to those blokes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news_web/audio/9012da680045a20/nb/09012da680045d94_16x9_nb.ram
“BBC ups it’s revenue base to include all companies with a PC….
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/09/internet_tv_licence/
ritter”
This is the story that alarmed me the most today. It points towards compulsory government registration for anyone buying a PC in a shop, and opens the way for a PC license:
“Previously it was believed that only PCs with a broadcast card designed specifically to pick up TV signals needed a licence. But ahead of the BBC’s streaming of live World Cup coverage, TV Licensing has said that it will prosecute in cases where TV is watched on a PC regardless of how it is received.”
“The Licensing Authority operates by cross referencing equipment sales against licence holders and chasing down those with equipment but no licence. “We have a database of more than 28m addresses, so our enquiry officers know exactly which unlicensed business premises to target,” said a TV Licensing press release.
But retailers are only forced to send information about buyers of television equipment. Retailers told OUT-LAW that no request had yet been received for information on purchases of computers, unless those computers are fitted with TV cards.”
“The authority for insisting on a licence comes from the definition of TV equipment in the Wireless Telegraph Act 1967, last amended by the Communications Act 2003 and subsequent orders of the government related to it.
The 2003 Act says:
“‘Television receiver’ means any apparatus of a description specified in regulations made by the Secretary of State setting out the descriptions of apparatus that are to be television receivers for the purposes of this Part.”
In 2004, the Secretary of State ruled in the Television Licensing Regulations that:
“‘Television receiver’ means any apparatus installed or used for the purpose of receiving (whether by means of wireless telegraphy or otherwise) any television programme service, whether or not it is installed or used for any other purpose.”
The law is almost certain to include the Television Licensing Authority’s new definition. “It seems pretty clear that the definition is drawn so widely that it looks as though a PC would be a television apparatus which under the Act needs to be licensed,” said Kim Walker, media and technology partner with Pinsent Masons, the law firm behind OUT-LAW.”
NB OUT-LAW is where the story comes from. For all I know it could be a bunch of cranks. It is part of Pinsent Masons, who also could be a bunch of cranks:
http://www.pinsentmasons.com/
NB That was myself. Ashley Pomeroy: The Jeweller (formerly Ashley Pomeroy: The Human Cartoon).
reith
Go answer some of those questions you promised many times to exdplore before you come back with cheap and inaccurate gibes.
You just make BBC look even more arrogant.
OT, and it’s a bit lengthy so apologies in advance but I thought folks might like to see this.
This is very much off-topic because it’s about government not the BBC, but it’s from the Countryside Alliance about the icons poll that was held/rigged earlier this year. Apparently the hunting fans voted in large numbers – good for them – but some of the more right-on nominations – Brick Lane, the Notting Hill Carnival – seem to have some way to go before they become national icons. Won’t stop the Beeboids treating them as such, though.
“Figures released this week by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport reveal the £1million ICONS project* as a Government-inspired fiddle.
The DCMS figures, released in response to a Countryside Alliance request under the Freedom of Information Act, are from a web-based voting system, and were supposed to be a determining factor in whether a nomination would be considered an icon of England.
Foxhunting gained more supportive votes than all the other 22 icons (listed below) put together, but was denied “icon” status by the Department. The DCMS pre-empted the publication of the votes by creating a new icon of “fox-hunting and the ban” an option that was never available to vote on, and which implies that animal rights activity is somehow iconic.
Icon Name
Total Votes
% yes
Yes Votes
No Votes
Big Ben
3321
87.70%
2913
408
Blackpool Tower
1090
65.20%
711
379
Brick Lane
20
65.00%
13
7
Cricket
2650
87.80%
2327
323
Domesday Book
1126
80.90%
911
215
Eden Project
597
30.80%
184
413
Globe Theatre
637
73.20%
466
171
Hadrian’s Wall
1040
74.60%
776
264
Hay Wain
610
70.80%
432
178
HMS Victory
1378
82.10%
1131
247
Lindisfarne Gospels
245
61.20%
150
95
Mini-Skirt
933
45.30%
423
510
Morris Dancing
6923
88.30%
6113
810
Notting Hill Carnival
2189
15.30%
335
1854
Origin of Species
727
69.30%
504
223
Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
790
65.80%
520
270
Pub
4353
87.90%
3826
527
Queen’s head stamp design by Machin
596
68.60%
409
187
St George Flag
2265
87.80%
1989
276
Sutton Hoo Helmet
661
64.10%
424
237
York Minster
735
68.20%
501
234
Fox-hunting**
36302
67.20%
24395
11907
Countryside Alliance Chief Executive Simon Hart commented: “This project has been politically manipulated by the Government to disguise the truth rather than to reflect the views of the general public. In effect the Government has spent £1 million of taxpayers’ money telling the public what it should think not what it does think. It is another example of the Government’s inability to deal with any issue without obsessively tinkering.”
I believe the elderly cleric is genuine, apparently he wants the communities to live in peace and he preaches against violence.
But I can also believe that the police have genuine concerns about the 16-year-old.
The BBC as usual fails to give us the full picture.
The news since 5pm has been headlined by a small rabble of 100 people protesting in Forest Gate – against the wishes of the family affected by the recent arrests. Trust the BBC to play straight into the hands of the extremists, they KNOW they are extremists yet they still give them the oxygen of top-of-the-news publicity.
Who the hell in senior editorial positions at the BBC can see this as a serious big story ? They go from worse to worse. It truly is becoming Al Beeb.
Notice that reith popped in to make stupid snide remarks – but avoided the issue of the T word on which he has frequently posted before. He has repeatedly defended the BBC’s avoidance of the T word for Zarqari and Al Q in Iraq.
I see Al Beeb continues with the Americans are kidnapping people and torturing them elsewhere (rendition stories) In fact in its attempts to smear the CIA it has story after story after story about how the Yanks are guilty;
Europe under ‘rendition’ cloud
If the allegations of secret CIA jails in Poland and Romania prove to be true, the results could be very serious for both countries.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5057640.stm
The one story they don’t promote is this one;
“EU official: No evidence of illegal CIA action
Antiterror chief advises committee
By Jan Silva, Associated Press | April 21, 2006
BRUSSELS — Investigations into reports that US agents shipped prisoners through European airports to secret detention centers have produced no evidence of illegal CIA activities, the European Union’s antiterrorism coordinator said yesterday.
The investigations also have not turned up any proof of secret renditions of terror suspects on EU territory, Gijs de Vries told a European Parliament committee investigating the allegations.”
So AL Beeb promotes the image that the yanks are playing the game of hide the silly sausage by using every tin pot org out there. Yet the EU which has a committee investigating these allegations (EU is pretty good at forming committees Serbs killing Bosnians, EU lets form a committee, Saddam killing the Kurds, EU lets form a committee, Arab Muslims killing black Muslims in Darfur, EU let’s form a committee. Spot the trend folks)
Hears that there is no evidence what so ever other than hearsay.(And I don’t mean the pop group)
http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2006/04/21/eu_official_no_evidence_of_illegal_cia_action/
But the funny thing is that if you do a search on the above story on AL Beeb you find nothing what so ever.
I wonder why???
Where’s the word alleged here “John Reith”?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5065008.stm
Seven people, including three children, have been killed by Israeli shells which hit a beach in the northern Gaza Strip, Palestinian officials say.
We know it’s not from the air force and not from the navy and we are checking if it was artillery [fire]. We also don’t know for certainty if it was Israeli fire – Israeli army spokesman Jacob Dallal
…
For many months, the Israelis have been pounding away at open areas such as fields and orchards in an effort to prevent Palestinian militants using them to fire their home-made missile into crudely made missiles into nearby Israeli territory.
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BBC can’t decide how to describe the fluffy missiles that are fired into Israel:
“For many months, the Israelis have been pounding away at open areas such as fields and orchards in an effort to prevent Palestinian militants using them to fire their home-made missile into crudely made missiles into nearby Israeli territory.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5065008.stm
oops, must read posts before posting!
Biodegradable,
Looked a tad Pallywood to me. All the palestinians wailing & corvorting, yet very little in the way of blood or missing limbs!
J.G.
I also commented about this yesterday:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/114948315469804100/#286666
Follow the links there to HonestReporting too
Apologies for backtracking, but I’ve been unable to keep up with BBBC posts for a few days:
As he still is visiting this site I’d like to take Reith back to something he said re the Forest Gate incident
“My experience of watching/listening is also one of frustration/irritation that some dimwit/partisan/transparent fraud/ ideologically motivated idiot etc. is spouting off dodgy views. But that’s because the BBC charter compels it to give a platform to all sorts INCLUDING mavericks, fruitcakes and …..defence solicitors.”
About half of my family live in the Forest Gate area, mostly in properties that they’ve owned since they were built in the 19th Century.
The BBC keeps quoting and interviewing what it describes as ‘community leaders’. WTF,- WE ARE THE LOCAL COMMUNITY !!! The moslems are a minority group. Where are the interviews with the majority? Why are the fears of white people sidelined? If the BBC want ‘community spokepeople’ I’ve got aunts who’d like nothing better than to breath fire down a BBC microphone. Foreigners trying to blow them up was the background to their lives for 6 years. They’ve faded photographs of missing brothers and sisters to remind them of the sucesses. Are their voices not worth hearing?
Barker John, given the IDF spokesman’s comments I’ll be surprised if it was an Israeli shell.
Past form points to a Pally missile launch team mingling with families on the beach, and a home-made/crudely made missile gone awfully wrong. A work accident in other words.
J.G.,
It don’t matter. This issue is important enough to bear repetition! a few have us have been watching these Kassam rockets transform themselves from firecracker type harmless fizzy things that go pop into more serious and accurate weapons and then back into the fizzy things as the BBC realises that it has wandered too close to the truth for comfort. The BBC telling the truth about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict? We can’t have that!
What I’d like to see is the BBC reporting the fact that the Kassams have killed a number of Israeli civilians, including children instead of this endless home-made/crudely-made chant.
Doesn’t look likely to happen.
Muslims protest over terror raid
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5064454.stm
Earlier the sister of two brothers held in connection with an alleged terror plot criticised the police’s “barbaric and horrific actions”.
Torture maybe?
How long before demands for the disbanding of the Met and the introduction of the “London Communities Police Service” with local mosques operating the police service in their own areas?
PJ,
Are their voices not worth hearing?
Al-Beeb is too busy with its programme of subversion even to make a pretence of balanced reporting.
Good take on Forest Gate from Littlejohn:
The real intelligence failure of forest gate
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/newscomment.html?in_page_id=1787&in_article_id=389845
“A couple of months ago, a crowd of foaming Muslims marched through London preaching death and hatred, praising the 7/ 7 bombers and threatening another attack in Britain in a spurious, manufactured fit of fury over a couple of Danish cartoons no one had seen.
Among that vile mob was the older brother of the men arrested in Forest Gate. He was on day-release from prison at the time.
We are told that the two brothers now in police custody had become ‘radicalised’ after 9/ 11, grew beards, adopted extreme Islamic dress and were fond of spouting jihad against the West.
First we’re told that the 4am knock on the door woke the family up. Then we’re asked to believe that, actually, the police disturbed ‘morning prayers’.
Yeah, right.
Speaking of the family, the rest of them all went off on holiday to Mauritius the following day. As you do.
Ask yourself this: if two of your sons were being held by police on terrorist charges — one of them with a gunshot wound — would you pack up your bucket and spade and head off to sunnier climes?
Precisely.
Assorted ‘friends’ and ‘community leaders’ have been given free rein by our friends in the rolling news media. At one stage, Sky News seemed literally to be stopping Muslims in the street and inviting them to slag off the police. The local BBC news this week has been one long catalogue of Muslim grievances.
On Sky, two alleged ‘friends’ of the men arrested were interviewed. Well, I say ‘interviewed’. They were given a platform to rant and rave unchallenged. One of these ‘friends’ was hooded, the other was wearing an intifada headscarf, and they were filmed from behind to protect their identity. They could have been anybody.”
J.G.
my post with the link to HonestReporting:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/114439939458782703/#224117
Biodegradable,
That picnic blanket seemed to have withstood the force of the blast pretty well! Teflon-coated or something?
Hamas can now bomb Israeli’s without leftist reproach since the ceasefire is now over according to them. Guess they couldn’t bare to think that the World was watching the World Cup & not little dem, AaaH!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5065008.stm
I still can’t help shaking my head in amusement about the BBC tying themselves in knots with their “home-made missile into crudely made missiles into nearby Israeli territory”
Barker John, it does seem that there were casualties. The IDF have offered assistance and there is the possibility that it was an unexploded dud from previous artillery fire. But any excuse is a good one for the Phonystinians to scream “massacre!” (remember Jenin).
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/724811.html
However, IDF sources said that a preliminary investigation showed there had been no shelling from land or sea. IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz ordered an end to the shelling until the completion of an investigation into the civilian deaths. The military also offered assistance in the wake of the strike.
Major General Yoav Galant, head of Israel’s southern command, said on Friday evening that the army is looking into the circumstances of the explosion. One possibility under examination is that an IDF shell strayed from its path, or that a work accident caused the explosion.
“It is not our intention to harm innocent civilians. We are investigating the incident in order to try to clarify what happened here,” he said, adding that the IDF is aware of areas in which civilians are present, and that military gunners are ordered to prevent firing on these areas.
Earlier Friday, an Israel Air Force strike killed three Popular Resistance Committees (PRC) militants in Beit Hanun, in the Gaza Strip, just minutes after they fired a Qassam rocket into Israel.
IDF sources said that at approximately 3 P.M., the militants fired a rocket that landed in an open field near Sderot. One of the militants, who was standing outside the car, was killed by an IAF missile soon after the rocket launch. The other two men attempted to drive away, but were killed by another missile that hit the moving car.
Bear in mind that all of these rocket launches and air strikes are going on within a few kilometres, if that, of each other.
Yeah, I see what your saying & yet don’t believe a word of the story.
Why did the cameraman film the distraught young child running amoungst the dunes? Why had nobody tried to calm her down, cuddle her in the time it must have taken the crew to arrive? Why so many complete bodies? I know the BBC sanatise images for our supposedly weak palettes, but still!
Hamas are on a deadline to submit to Abbas & have decided to fake this ‘supposed massacre’ & deny him. The Beeb laps it up! Mind you the ran a Herceptin story first on the 7 o’clock news, even they may doubts?
Should have read-
Hamas are on a deadline to submit to Abbas & have decided to fake this ‘supposed massacre’ & deny him. The Beeb laps it up! Mind you they ran a Herceptin story first on the 7 o’clock news, even they may have doubts?
Too many World Cup beverages!!
C’mon Mr Rieth, why cant the BBC update
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5062360.stm
To say:
“He was one of Israel’s most wanted men in Gaza. Samhadana was thought to be involved in a 2003 attack on a US diplomatic convoy, which killed three civillians and severely wounded the US envoy.”
Must the BBC always minimise the violence caused by terrorists?
The BBC would be all over it if Israel attacked a UN convoy.
Barker John,
This is how the Jerusalem Post, usually quite reliable in these matters, opens with the first paragraph of the story. (Last updated 18:43 GMT):
A day after the successful targeted killing of Popular Resistance Committees leader Jamal Abu Samhadana, the apparent misfiring of an IDF artillery shell resulted in thirteen civilian deaths and left dozens wounded Friday evening. The shell hit a crowded Gaza beach in between Sudaniya and Beit Lahiya.
If there’s any further clarification, it will certainly come from the IDF.
Misinformation BBC and its biased reporting on all things Islamic.
Al Beeb is running an article over how a load of people (muslims) have protested about a certain raid in London the other week. The first paragraph is followed by this succulent piece in which to give the impression that the family are behind the protests:
“Earlier the sister of two brothers held in connection with an alleged terror plot criticised the police’s “barbaric and horrific actions”.
Really Al Beeb as I happened to watch CH4 news and the film clip they played showed that the family were not only against the march (Stating radical idiots as hijacking the incident for their own political purposes ) but they also showed film clips of the local mosques informing the faithful to stay away.
Now if that wasn’t enough here is what the Torygraph has to say on the matter;
“A protest against alleged police brutality has attracted a smaller crowd than organisers hoped, after the family of two brothers arrested on terror charges last week urged Muslims not to attend.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/09/uprotest.xml
So with the above contrasting view points can somebody from Al Beeb please explain why they give the impression that every Mohamed, Mustfa and Fatima were out in force shouting out expletives such as “”British police go to hell” in which to paint the expression that the Muslim community are totally disappointed with the British police force.
Oh yes Al Beeb when you use this person in which to garner an inflammatory anti British comment;
“Protest organiser Anjem Choudary said: “When you start to violate the sanctity of Muslims and their homes, and handle their mothers and fathers then there is going to be some kind of backlash.”
It kind of helps the reader if you explain just who he really is;
“Anjem Choudary, who is 39 years old and from Ilford, Essex, was, along with Omar Bakri Muhammad, a leader of Al-Muhajiroun, an Islamist group operating in the United Kingdom, until its dissolution in 2004. He now speaks for Bakri, who was banned from Britain on 12 August 2005 by Home Secretary Charles Clarke on the grounds that his presence in Britain was “not conducive to the public good”[1][2]. He is also a spokesman for Al-Ghurabaa, an extremist group widely believed to be a successor to Al-Muhajiroun.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary
But it’s not as if you didn’t know who he was;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4700976.stm
(Nice clip of a policeman verbally attacking a British van driver and we wonder why the BNP has a growing following. Do take note Al Beeb. Oh silly me it’s a newsnight report) Oh Choudary opens up at the 7 min point.
Market Participant,
It’s past Reith’s bedtime and he isn’t listening. But even if he were, it wouldn’t make any difference at all.
The man can’t face up fairly and squarely to a duel of wits.
How about a duel of twits?
I just had a look at that policeman abusing the driver. This is the typical cowardly PC behaviour that we’ve come to expect from them. You’d never in a million years see the police threaten a Muslim like that. They just take the line of least resistance and threaten a lone opponent of the Muslim mob.
The BBC, of course, would consider that proper behaviour on the part of the police.
How about a duel of twits?
Then we’d have to find another one to pit against Reith.
anyone who runs this site interested
in starting a fighting fund for
advertising bbbc to the wider public.
i’d certaintly be willing to help.
Pounce:
We’re public guardians bold yet wary
And of ourselves we take good care
To risk our precious lives we’re chary
When danger threatens we’re not there
But when we see a helpless woman
Or little boys who do no harm…
We run them in, we run them in
We run them in, we run them in
To show them we’re the beaux gendarmes (bis)
When young men like to make a riot
And punch each other’s heads at night
We are disposed to keep it quiet
Provided that they make it right
But if they do not seem to see it
Or give to us our proper alms…
We run them in, etc.
Sometimes our duty’s extramural
Then little butterflies we chase
We like to gambol in things rural
Commune with nature face to face
But when we go back to our duties
Refreshed by Nature’s holy charms…
We run them in, etc.
TIME Magazine which started the whole Haditha affair is backpedalling and making corrections to their original story. Turns out the young student who filmed it etc turns out to be a political activist etc. More here
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/time-corrects-its-mistakes-about-haditha
Right now on Newwnight is Ms Chakrabati (Liberty) and Mr Inayat “Zionist Pig” Bunglawala.
I see AL Beeb is running with a story on the news about how an explosion on the Gaza strip (beach) is because of Israeli action. Not alleged as any atrocity committed by the faithful but hard fact.
“Seven people, including three children, died on Friday when Israeli shells hit a beach in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian officials say.”
Ref that story Al Beeb opens with this film clip narrated by Jeremy Bowen ;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news_web/video/9012da680045a20/bb/09012da680045df2_16x9_bb.asx
Notice something, that screaming little girl is not only unharmed but on her own.
The camera is already there to witness her searching for her family. Hang on let me get this right, the camera is there before the ambulances, in fact the camera man films the ambulance men running onto the beach (Baywatch style)
So for a crowed beach can somebody please explain where all the people were? I mean even if they had run off they would have left a lot more than I saw on that beach. Now any other killing attributed to those nasty jews. We see thousands of people crowding round the dead. Not this time. And those ambulances look at the film clip, there is only one road onto the beach from the built up area? So how come one is facing in the other direction to the other? Please it looks to me if it was pre-positioned? (Pallywood anyone?)
Back to that little girl, if the area was full of people as Jeremy Bowen suggests why isn’t anybody there comforting her? I mean he does say it was crowded. So where are they?
Have a look at the film clip of where her family are covered by blankets? Anybody notice the discarded book giving the impression they died where they sat? Then notice the drag mark where somebody or something was dragged there. Dragged? The impression Bowen gives is they died where they sat. But if they were dragged there by the locals why is the little girl the only one in the picture? Where are the people who dragged the bodies there. But there can’t be as the little girl is the first on the scene. So who covered up the bodies?
So Al Beeb how about showing the impact marks of that artillery barrage. I’ve watched that video time and time again and not only do I fail to see scorch marks but I fail to see any blast waves from those rounds detonating? Lots of foot prints? No actual bodies (since when have the Pals been keen to cover up the dead. Rather they love to show bodies off) and come to think of it in the hospital a lack of injuries? No blood on the people carrying the wounded, in fact no blood on the victims. Bloody bandages, but no actual wounds.
P.S
Ref the technologically superior Israeli not knowing that the beach was crowded before they opened fire. You do know Mr Bowen that the world leaders in the use of UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles) are the Israelis.(not my words but Janes defence weekly vol 43 issue 19, 10th may 2006. Page 21, under Israel)The destruction of the entire Syrian anti aircraft defence in the Becca Valley was due to the use of the UAV. In other words they looked for the enemy before they destroyed them. So tell me Al Beeb how the IDF which logs more time flying UAVs (18000 hours in 2005)than any other country in the world didn’t know where those shells were going to land. Add the fact that a major Hamas player was killed last night and now Hamas have said the gloves are off because of this so called shelling. It appears to me that Al Beeb is now the voice piece of Hamas the terrorist organisation
‘Raids may cost police our support’
“Community leaders have warned police they risk losing public support after two days of anti-terror raids in Bradford.
Residents say they are living in fear after last night’s swoop at an internet caf in Manningham.”
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Living in fear?
I would have thought that the Police doing their job would be re-assuring!
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Shamsuddin Ahmed, 40, has lived for 15 years on Hanover Square.
“We are law-abiding citizens and our lives have been a nightmare since the arrests.”
http://www.thisisbradford.co.uk/display.var.789604.0.raids_may_cost_police_our_support.php
Pounce, exactly! This is Pallywood. No Crater, no major injuries on supposed casulties. Lot’s of distressed chilren being dragged along by unknown people. Lot’s of shaky camerawork. It’s more crap from the beeb in believing this rubbish.
Hamas playing them for the fools they are.
ioD
“The simplest solution of all is to use a Mac.”
Well, at least we agree about something.
John Rieth
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Given the BBC’s blatant promotion of Apple products, I expected no less from you Reith.
PS: I’m still waiting for your views on the that Kofi Annan interview. You’re not scared to offer an opinion are you?
dumbcisco….you were in WEST Germany I suspect not Germany. As I said, Germany was not a country. There was West Germany and East Germany, which were two very different countrys. One generally free to prosper and one controlled by a totalitarian regime. As I am sure you must be aware.
Gary two small points you seem to have overlooked. One war in 18 years of Conservative rule??? What planet are you on??? Which one was the ONE then??? The Falklands War, or the first Gulf War?? Did the other one not really happen?? Are you in some delusional state??
Second:
‘Then wonder how stupid you would feel if one of those non-exsistent unorganised missguided muslim friends of yours blew your kidds legs off, on the way to school.’
I never said anything about them being non-existent. I said there is no such thing as an organised terrorist group. It is portrayed that way because people cannot handle the thought of random individuals conducting the violence against innocents. As you prove in your comments, the idea of it being individuals is beyond the comprehension of many people because one man who suddenly decides to commit such an atrocity is impossible to stop. A group can be monitored. You cannot monitor one man’s thoughts. Still thank you for proving my point through your childlike eyes.
What was really disgraceful was Jeremy Bowen presenting the story as if it was definite that it was an Israeli shell that hit the beach – when the intro said that this was not yet certain.
Bowen suspends all doubt, pitches straight into Israel.
Yes, a lot of it looked very contrived. Bowen is there in the London studio – so has not been able to vouch for anything – the cameraman, checks with claimed witnesses etc. But he gave a verdict of definite guilt for the Israelis. No question of how about shells/munitions from the Palestinians, an errant “home-made rocket” – or an elaborately-staged Pallywood job.
That isn’t journalism. That’s running an agenda.
Top management at the BBC – and the Governors – must be real stupid if they think they can continue ad infinitum the licence tax while having such endless bias. It is the bias that is causing a lot of people to say “to hell with the BBC, break it up, chop it down to size”.
korova
We called it Germany. Everyone called it Germany. Germany called itself Germany.
I think the best thing is for us to ignore you if you want to be silly every time you pop in. If you don’t think there is any such thing as orgasnised terrorism, what about ETA, what about the IRA, what about Zarqari’s organisation in Iraq.
Go play your delusional denial games elsewhere. This site is about BBC bias, not your nutty ideas.
Pounce,
I’m also arguing this at FFI. Can I copy/paste your synopsis over there too? Just give me a nod.
dave t
Sweetness and Light has been doing the heavy lifting in assessing the haditha story. This article brings their work into a single summary.
Looks like there is now a lot of room for doubt about what happened in Haditha.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5566
and here is some circumstantial evidence in the Scotsman suggesting nothing morally bad had happened :
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=853792006
anon at 12 midnight was me
Pounce’s invaluable expert opinion confirms my layman’s impressions regarding lack of craters on the beach, footprints in the sand and little girl running around.
Here we have an alleged eye witness account from Gaza journalist Sami Yousef who tells us that “… we heard some loud explosions. As soon as we heard this we ran towards the area where the shells landed.”
He didn’t say if he heard the whistle of incoming shells before the explosions. One must assume he didn’t and still accept the rest of his account.
If anybody is still uncertain as to whether the BBC has an agenda look at photo #4 here:
In pictures: Gaza violence
A Getty Images stock photo of what one presumes is an Israeli gunboat’s cannon firing a round captioned Israel launched a probe. The army said it had not fired from the air or from gunboats operating off the Gaza coastline.
So why include that image?