Open thread – for comments of general Biased BBC interest:


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  1. dumbcisco says:

    FIERCE attack on the BBC by Bill O’Reilly at Fox News half-way through this piece on Zarqawi :

    http://hotair.com/archives/vent/2006/06/09/zarqawis-end/

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  2. Barker John says:

    Pounce, I had to use your piece. They were so naive & you put it so eloquently. They do love an apostate though!

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  3. Barker John says:

    Whoo, they have a HYS already. Really playing the angry leftists/liberals dance then.

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=2151&&edition=1&ttl=20060610005931

    I would comment if I thought it was worth the effort.

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  4. disillusioned_german says:

    Opinion divided as brothers freed
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5066470.stm

    “Because of this breakdown in trust you then see Muslims getting far more agitated and angry,” he said.

    Oh, really? What are they going to do next? Blow themselves up? Hardly, after all it’s the religion of peace, right?

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  5. disillusioned_german says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/5063258.stm

    The Iraqi prime minister announces the death of militant leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in a US air strike.

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  6. disillusioned_german says:

    That’s picture eight, by the way…

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  7. Biodegradable says:

    disillusioned_german – they really are bloody useless!

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  8. Grimer says:

    Pounce,

    Spot on. I thought exactly the same thing when I watched the clip.

    Where is the blood on the beach?

    Where are the shell craters?

    Why are the Press there first?

    Where is everybody?

    Who is the old lady carried into the hospital? She gives a good go of acting, but there appears nothing wrong with her.

    Where is the blood on any of the casualties at the hospital?

    The saddest thing about the whole affair is that I came home and my 2 flatmates (1 dentist, 1 IT specialist) asked it I’d heard the news about an Israeli boat killing civilians on the beach.

    They got that story from somewhere. I wonder where….

    I’m not even sure if I should mention that, because I don’t really want the BBC to know their propaganda is so effective.

    The BBC is the enemy (I’ve never stated things this strongly before, but they really are)

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  9. Biodegradable says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5065468.stm

    After Friday morning prayers, Sheikh Jarrah Kada, 42, sporting a thick salt-and-pepper beard, gathers with his companions at a friend’s house to drink tea.

    For Sheikh Kada, wearing a pale blue prayer cap, Zarqawi’s death is a reason to celebrate. But not because the Sheikh sees him as a terrorist – indeed, quite the opposite.

    He regards Zarqawi is a hero, a martyr who died in the name of Islam.

    “He was a great leader – he fought for Islam,” says Sheikh Kada, drawing nods of approval from the 10 men sitting in the circle.

    “I’m happy that he is dead because he is now going to heaven.”

    “America must leave all the places it occupies in the Middle East because it is killing our women and children,” the sheikh says.

    “The Jews must also leave Israel and give back the land to the Palestinians.”

    Destination Iraq

    The men bristle at the idea that they are in any way extremist.

    “We are true believers in Islam,” says Abu Roman, 55, an accountant.

    “Islam is not terrorism. I don’t kill Americans in America, I don’t kill the British in Britain, and I don’t kill the Chinese in China. I just want the Arab lands to be free and Islamic.”

    Brought to you by the British tax payer.

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  10. disillusioned_german says:

    Biodegradable:

    I’ve stopped watching BBC News a while back and switched over to Fox News (I state that fact regularly). Nowadays the Beeb’s news output is funnier than their comedy output. It would be even funnier if they meant it to be funny though.

    My theories are:

    1. The Beeb think muslims already are a majority in the UK / Europe and that’s why they’re so biased towards them.

    2. The Beeb have stopped their UK based broadcasts and have the news made in the Middle East (but not Israel).

    What do you think?

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  11. Gary Powell says:

    Korova
    Sorry I made a mistake I was going to post a correction but as nobody seemed to notice I did not bother. I meant to say 12 years of a Thatcher government. You know that Right -wing nutter that used to run this place. I count 5 at least since Tony arrived and counting.

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  12. boblog says:

    Reith,
    I do not take kindly to being called a loon. Unless you were jesting. If so, ho ho, very witty.
    I have resisted the temptation to call you a liar. But I am tempted. Mr BBC Reith.

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  13. Oscar says:

    Talking about BBC news descending into a joke – on the Today programme as I speak they are interviewing Michael Berg – whose son was killed by Zaqawi – a total moonbat who outstrips Norman Kember for horrendous moral equivalence (Bush and Blair are as bad as Zaqawi indeed worse). Death of Zaqawi is a tragedy. Al beeb will hunt these people down wherever they are and interview them with absolute deference.

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  14. Eamonn says:

    Oscar

    Righteous anger.

    William Shawcross finally loses it and gets angry with John Humphrys after the Berg interview. Shawcross is basically saying that the BBC are only interviewing the tragic Berg (again) and broadcasting his well known but frankly lunatic views because they are in line with the BBC editorial agenda.

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  15. Ritter says:

    OT – but interesting in the context of reporting on police dealing with threat from Islamists. This is one Guardian story I don’t see the BBC leading with. Funny that.

    Secret report brands Muslim police corrupt
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/race/story/0,,1794445,00.html

    “The document, which has been seen by the Guardian, has caused outrage among ethnic minorities within the force, who have labelled it racist and proof that there is a gulf in understanding between the police force and the wider Muslim community. The document was written as an attempt to investigate why complaints of misconduct and corruption against Asian officers are 10 times higher than against their white colleagues.

    Superintendent Dal Babu, chairman of the Association of Muslim Officers, said the report had racist undertones.”

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  16. Eamonn says:

    Here the BBC are up to the same trick on a different front:-

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5065468.stm

    “City of martyrs salutes Zarqawi”

    The BBC constantly hides behind the defence that they have a responsibility to report all sides. So when will the families of, for instance, the seven Rachels be interviewed? And how many times has Rachel Corrie’s family been interviewed.

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  17. Ritter says:

    BBC News24 just now telling us all how the police need to build bridges with the community who feel threatened etc. Pretty much the PR line of these guys.

    Police: Trigger Happy Crusaders
    http://www.alghurabaa.co.uk/

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  18. Bryan says:

    On the Gaza beach ‘attack’, it’s looking more and more like Pallywood.

    At the end of this CNN 46-second video clip you can clearly see an apparently-injured man in military dress, who has been lying down, sit up as the Red Crescent arrives, revealing the weapon he’s been holding:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/09/mideast/index.html

    The clip is courtesy Ramattan TV, whoever they are.

    The CNN report is typical. They’ve swallowed the Palestinian version whole, claiming that an Israeli gunboat fired on the beach.

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  19. lmo says:

    BBC News 24: A review of the morning papers finds our BBC friends ignoring the Guardian front page this morning.I thought that was very odd, this being the in-house paper of the Beeb.But then the paper’s top story is about a “top secret” report by the Met police on why so many muslim officers are reported for corruption.It finds that the culture from which these officers hail has something to do with it.So typical of the BBC to ignore it.The report is being denounced as racist by the usual suspects.

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  20. nbc says:

    On the subject of rocket attacks.

    It would appear that the BBC is getting quite good at Photoshop. Have a look at this from today:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5066768.stm

    And compare it to this:

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=20812&only

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  21. lmo says:

    Btw, the Met report had to be toned down before it was published.Please go to the on-line Guardian and read it.

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  22. gordon-bennett says:

    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/09/D8I50R200.html

    Kamal Ghobn said he had just arrived at the beach on a bus with about 50 relatives when the attack took place. “I was still parking the bus and everyone got out to go to the beach. As I locked the door I felt the thud of the shells and felt a sting in my side,” said Ghobn, who was slightly wounded by shrapnel. Gobn said he saw four shells land.

    Did he feel the thud and then see 4 shells land – that would make at least 5, wouldn’t it. We’ll see how this “eyewitness evidence” stacks up with other “facts” as they are released.

    Why is the girl seen both running about as the ambulance sirens are sounding and lying passively by the “bodies”. What’s the sequence. Was she lying there and got up and ran about when the ambulances arrived? That doesn’t seem natural.

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  23. Bryan says:

    lmo,

    Although it’s fundamentally a disgusting, left-wing, anti-Semitic rag, the Guardian is far less politically-corect than the BBC.

    It also appears to have a bit more balls and will break stories that the BBC wouldn’t touch out of fear of offending Muslims.

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  24. Bidegradable says:

    Why is it that when “Palestinian” suicide bombers deliberately attack civilians with the clear intention of causing as many casualties as possible we only hear mumblings of vague “condemnation” from the International community along with the terrorists falling over themselves to claim responsibility and justify their murderous acts, yet when Israel accidently kills some civilians (if that is indeed the case) Kofi Annan “calls for an investigation” and fresh threats from the terrorists are met with silent approval?

    Hamas claims Israel rocket attack

    Palestinian radical group Hamas says it has fired rockets into Israel for the first time since beginning its unofficial truce 16 months ago.
    Its armed wing said it had launched the attack in response to the deaths of seven Palestinian civilians which the Hamas government blames on Israel.

    Israel, which has been using artillery against suspected Gaza rocket squads, has promised to investigate the deaths.

    The head of the United Nations has called for a full inquiry.

    Hamas’s Izzedine al-Qassam Brigade said it had fired rockets at Israel from the Gaza Strip.

    “This is only the start and rocket firings will continue,” a spokesman was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying.

    “Next time, the rockets will be longer in range and they will hit places deeper inside the Zionist entity.”

    The spokesman said the attacks were a response to Israeli “crimes and the killings of civilians in Gaza”.

    UN Secretary General Kofi Annan has called for a full investigation into Friday’s deaths.

    His spokesman said the UN chief was deeply disturbed by the killings.

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  25. Gary Powell says:

    What does the BBC put forward as the reasons why the Israeli government or the IDF should want to carry out a Terrorist attack when they would be fully aware of the political PR problems this will give them? What could the Israeli government possibly get from this attack? Has the BBC got evidence that IDFs troops get paid for killing innocent people? Has George Bush put a bounty on Palistinian children?

    I stongly suspect they do not.

    The BBC does not even put forward even ONE idear as to WHY the Israelis would want to do such a thing?

    Reasons why HAMAS would want to do this themselves or pretend that it happened however, are many, and obvious, to any one that cares about truth and human beings.

    An important question is, what does the BBC get from, taking even the slightest risk of throwing whats left of its credibility down the kazi like this.

    This is a genuine question: Is it possible that someone at the BBC is being payed to run stories like this? Because much stanger things in the past have been known. For instance many soviet spys that would probely have done the job for free were still paid money whether they wanted or neaded it or not.

    This issue is not just important, it is going to be the excuse for REAL deaths to take place of Real children. This WILL be used to justify some of the worst REAL human suffering imaginable.

    I appeal to any human beings still taking the BBC shilling, to have the courage to stand up for what in your hearts you know is right. If you do not, young BLOOD from the next episode of Jewish genocide will be on YOUR HANDS.

    I dont want to overstate my point however the second WW “kicked off” with a German attack on Poland. This at the time the Germans said was a reprisal for a Polish attack on Germany. Film evidence was shown by the Nazis to confirm this to the world. The German propergander industry had simply dressed dead Polish troops in German uniforms.

    This lott arnt that clever, they just get out the bottles of Tomato sauce. It dont take much to fool a fool that wants to be fooled or is getting payed to be foolish.

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  26. Ritter says:

    BBC BraggWatch

    Bragg removes songs from MySpace
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/5065632.stm

    The story?

    Bragg = leftie = good
    News International = Murdoch = baaad

    With free sidebar link to billybragg.co.uk of course…

    next week..

    ‘Bragg goes shopping’, ‘Bragg makes a cup of tea’ etc etc

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  27. Bidegradable says:

    His spokesman said the UN chief was deeply disturbed by the killings.

    If the victims had been Israelis it would have been:

    His spokesman said the UN chief was deeply disturbed by the deaths.

    Gary Powell asks:

    This is a genuine question: Is it possible that someone at the BBC is being payed to run stories like this?

    Whether they’re paid or not we don’t know, but we have talked in the past about BBC correspondents training Arab journalists and taking part in forums and the like organised by the “Palestinians” with the aim of helping them “get their message across”.

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  28. Ritter says:

    Opinion divided as brothers freed
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5066470.stm

    How ‘divided’ is that, BBC? 50/50? 70/30? Do you mean ‘divided’ between muslims and just about everyone else? Has any organisation carried out a poll to see what the general public think of the police action?

    I’d put it at least 90%+ in favour of the police. You wouldn’t gain that impression from the BBC article though, it’s full of quotes from the muslim ‘victim’ groups.

    Even with the BBC censorship on their (D)HYS boards, opinion appears to be 90% in favour of police taking action to investigate when they have reasonable suspicion to do so.

    Release of terror raid pair: Your views
    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&threadID=2161&edition=1&ttl=20060610122832&#paginator

    Needless to say, the bbc sidebar on this page has three links all to muslim organisations who have the view that they are being victimised by the police:

    Muslim Council of Britain
    http://www.mcb.org.uk/

    Islamic Human Rights Commission
    http://www.ihrc.org/

    Muslim Public Affairs Committee
    http://www.mpacuk.org/

    How about balance in the links to some organisations that support the police and are fed up with muslims claiming victim status?

    Jihad Watch
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/

    Melanie Phillips
    http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/

    Transcript of BBC London interview with Melanie Phillips
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2006/06/08/londonistan_feature.shtml

    But no, no non-muslim voices get a look-in on the BBC…..

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  29. Gary Powell says:

    One more bit of evidence as to why you never let the workers run the place they work in or indead your government, comes today.

    The government proposes to make people that are NOT staff working for the NHS and social services, second class citizens.

    You in the future will be finded £1000 for conplaining to load about paying for a service that is not serving your needs. Im just suprised that the BBC has not considered itself important enough to be added to the list of the “protected elites of socialist government.”

    Or can I look forward to fineing my customers who complane to load about my service?

    I dont think so,do you?

    I dont force my customers to pay for my service nor are they in pain when the service is bad. Which of cause as my customers are not forced to pay for it, my service and products are never bad anyway.

    Has it escaped government that it is already against the criminal law to PHYSICALY abuse anyone or even any animal?

    Sticks and stones etc.

    The socialist state only protects its socialist mates, party members and affiliates. It does not have the political inclination or the money to give a flying-figg about the rest of us.

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  30. Barker John says:

    The Pali’s are not cooperating with the Israeli’s over the Gaza beach bombing. No surprise there!

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3260996,00.html

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  31. Gary Powell says:

    Does anyone doudt that the government will anounce in a few years time that the NHS is a great success due to the fact that the public no longer complane about the service?

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  32. Biodegradable says:

    Barker John, I (don’t) wonder why. The thot plickens.

    The body of the famous al-Dura boy has never been seen, nor an autopsy ever performed. His “dead” father has been spotted several times alive and well in Ramallah, just like Elvis.

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  33. Gary Powell says:

    Barker John
    How about the UN.

    Do they do nothing at all for all that western unaccountable, free cash they get.

    Answer: no. They possitively make the situation worse.

    We are used to the BBC and the UN being a bunch of corrupt politicaly motivated dangerously incompetent freeloaders, so I will not wait long for the UN to get involved any day soon. However important this situation may turn out to have been in the future.

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  34. J.G. says:

    Link with picture on BBC news front page:

    Zarqawi saluted
    Jordan’s city of martyrs hails dead militant leader as hero

    Yet the actual story makes no mention of celebrations in any city, no crowds of cheering plumbers, no marches or speeches, just a platform for some mad sheik to rant against the usual suspects. I defy anyone reading the story to find the link to the actual headline and tagline used.

    The BBC do not even try to hide their bias anymore. Get me a story to fit this headline.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5065468.stm

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  35. Gary Powell says:

    I dont know if me being part Jewish has anything to do with these next comments, as I would like to believe it makes no difference at all.

    If it does turn out that this is a Pallywood production, and the BBC does not make a full and unmissable humble apology for this mind blowingly dangerous bit of delliberate incompetence.

    There should be a full public independant enquiry, and a large amounts of heads must roll at the BBC. As we pay for this propergander WE are moraly responsible for the damage the BBC does in our name. Just as much as a pervert is responsible for paying for child pornography.

    In my opinion the BBC would have declared itself as an entity, to be THE ENEMY OF HUMANITY. Has put itself clearly on ONE SIDE of one of the worlds most violent and intractible conflicts the world has ever known. The BBC must suffer direct consequences of such a possition. Or we will all go to our own personal HELLs.

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  36. Gary Powell says:

    As you can probely tell this shit today has very deaply upset me. Does any one out there really believe that Jews like killing Muslims for FUN?

    Because this is the implication that the BBC leaves you with, as it does not even bother to give any reasons why it believes the Israelis would want to do such a thing or what they could possibly gain from this act other than entertainment.

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  37. Gary Powell says:

    The reasons why I believe a full public enquiry will not be made is this.

    This government only gets its nickers in a twist about the BBC when itself it attacked or when its ex PR man AC is “throwing a tantrum.”

    Also an investigation at the BBC might open up many other “cans of worms” that this or any other Labour government can not risk doing.

    Also what should be clear to all is, the BBC has the GOODS on all politicians or it will simply make it up. RE: The Hamiltons.

    I have mentioned before that I believe that the tail in Britain is now wagging the dog. What I should have added is that it seems that the hair on the end of that tail is in fact wagging the whole animal.

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  38. Ritter says:

    Banks move into Islamic finance
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5064058.stm

    “Many Middle Eastern Islamic banks are more social or co-operative banks in the West.

    Charity is a core value, or pillar, of Islam. Every Muslim is obliged to pay “Zakat”, a payment of 2.5% of his annual income to benefit the poor.

    Engku Rabiah Adawiah Engku Ali, a professor of the International Islamic University of Malaysia hopes that growth of Islamic banking will help to create a better distribution of wealth in the Islamic world.

    “Greed is a problem. We have to keep reminding ourselves not to follow greed”, she says.

    Aaaaw, nice and cuddly those kind islamic banks.

    just incase you’re confused, BBC provide more islamzzzzz sharia law cut out’n’keep guides…

    Islam, ethics and finance
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/features/banking/

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  39. pounce says:

    Ref the film clip of the little girl running on the beach looking for her parents. Something about it didn’t seem right and now having watched the CNN version
    (Thanks to Bryan)
    I now know what wasn’t right.
    The camera pans with the girl. Not from a distance. But next to her. In other words the child is running on cue. (Maybe that explains why she looks across in order to see if she is keeping pace with the camera crew not the look of “who the hell are you?” but a quick peek) Mind you I am somewhat surprised how little young lady knows it’s her father without having to check his face first? (You know remove the blanket, turn the body over and see for yourself?)
    Another thing about that CNN clip. When those two ambulance men run towards those so called bodies. Very briefly in the clip we see the young girl walking very calmly in the other direction (something Al Beeb omitted in their film clip) She isn’t screaming and nobody is with her. In other words nobody is consoling her? But the film clip shows a child stricken with grief? So why isn’t somebody comforting her.
    Instead she is allowed to simply walk off?
    Following on from that clip, where oh where did that bloke (lying on the floor next to the bodies) come from? I mean he’s holding his arm as if he is in pain. But seconds before when young lady was crying her eyes out, he wasn’t there? So just where did he come from?

    Now if I somebody with no media training what so ever can spot those little snippets, then why can’t the worlds media. (It appears al Beeb did as they removed those from their version of little miss crying hood)

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  40. Ritter says:

    BBC attacked over £18m Ross deal
    http://news.scotsman.com/celebrities.cfm?id=855962006

    a licence (fee) to print money.

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  41. Anonymous says:

    Ritter
    When I used to go on about the fact that this current load of nationalist loonies are socialists, a lot of people accused me of being the loony. Thank you for coming up with the evidence of what my common sense had told me a long time ago.

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  42. Ritter says:

    BBC Staff Bemoan Ad Plans
    http://blog.clickz.com/archives/060608-170002.html

    Once beeboids have their mouth sucking on the teat of state handouts, its difficult to wean them off it…

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  43. Anonymous says:

    Pounce
    Thank you for your comments and work. However another simpler way to look at it is this. Does the film resemble in a general way anything you have seen before from any simular incident, that you know happened. The answer is a simple easy to understand NO.

    So the really scary thing is why is it not obvious to the BBC. So obvious that they should at least “qualify” there own reporting?

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  44. mick in the uk says:

    I’ve only just managed to view the full video of the beach ‘massacre’.

    It’s blindingly obvious that this is indeed a Pallywood production!

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  45. disillusioned_german says:

    Zarqawi saluted
    Jordan’s city of martyrs hails dead militant leader as hero

    Says it all… They’re taken their newsfeeds from Al Jazeera. Amen!

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  46. Anonymous says:

    Just to show how paranoia can take hold when the media does not make sense anymore.

    I have just been to a Crystal Palace pub to watch the footy, on my motor bike. When I came out in the hot weather my alarm on my bike would not function. After walking around in the heat for 20 mins trying to get a new battery for my alarm fob I gave up and returned to my bike. Only to find a black guy having the same problem. He told me we had to roll our very heavy bikes down the hill to paxton green before they would work as the BBC antena was blocking the signal. Which we did and they both worked. Thanks BBC for really buggering up my day, in more ways than one.

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  47. Gary Powell says:

    That was me

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  48. dave t says:

    So Gary: Does this mean you’re a married, hetrosexual, part Jewish, Tory, avid commentator, exciteable footie fan, small businessman and hairy motorbiker as well?

    No wonder the BBC hate you! You’re not part of their desired viewing public!

    Join the great unwanted here on B-BBC 😎

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  49. Biodegradable says:

    Charity is a core value, or pillar, of Islam. Every Muslim is obliged to pay “Zakat”, a payment of 2.5% of his annual income to benefit the poor.

    Jews also support the poorer members of their communities. Synagogues are built and maintained by contributions from the community. But Jews are accused of “sticking together” and “looking after their own”.

    Biodegradable, not-very-practising Jew, married, hetrosexual, commentator, self employed, mostly self-taught, and ex-hairy ex-biker (ex-BSA, Norton and Ducati owner) ;-Þ

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  50. Biodegradable says:

    When will we see similarly emotive coverage of the funerals of Jewish victims of deliberate attacks by Arabs?

    Funerals for Gaza beach victims

    Or when will hear “Palestinians” make similar declarations as these (as called for by the famous Oslo accords)?
    Israel, which has been shelling open areas of northern Gaza to prevent rocket attacks, promised to investigate the deaths but said their cause was not yet clear.

    “If innocent civilians have been killed by an Israeli shell, that is totally unacceptable,” said government spokesman Mark Regev.

    “It will be investigated thoroughly and if people have to pay a price with their careers because of negligence or some other factor, then that will be done …”

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