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Gary Powell | 10.06.06 – 2:07 pm
You say:
“I have mentioned before that I believe that the tail in Britain is now wagging the dog. What I should have added is that it seems that the hair on the end of that tail is in fact wagging the whole animal.”
Nailed it again. Here’s how it goes:
1. The embittered leftist oiks who dominate the Scott Trust set The Guardian’s leftist agenda
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2. The Guardian sets the Beeb’s agenda
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3. The Beeb sets the media’s agenda
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4. The media sets the nation’s agenda =
5. Entire nation going down the toilet.
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6. Embittered leftist oiks happy
pounce,
Thanks for that analysis, but the picture just gets more and more confusing. Why did they go to such Pallywood lengths if the beach was indeed hit by an Israeli missile?
I suppose they could be trying to cover up a self-inflicted explosion here, but that doesn’t explain the reaction of the Israelis – who seem prepared to admit guilt.
Still ain’t nobody commented on the fact that at the guy who gets up at the end of the clip is almost certainly holding a gun of sorts. It’s black, short, but bigger than a handgun.
I suppose he was simply an ‘extra’.
And here’s another fine example of pro-Israel BBC reporting:
In the past, it [Israel] has refused to differentiate between political and armed wings, assassinating a number of Hamas leaders, including its founder, Sheikh Ahmed Yassin.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5067414.stm
Yassin, in fact, was the essence of a terrorist, indoctrinating and dispatching suicide bombers to blow up Israeli civilians.
He was not part of any mythical ‘political wing’.
The BBC is the enemy.
Because of the disruption to the TV schedules for the benefit of the worshippers of the football cult I have been forced to sit down in front t’telly when John Snows show, Channel four news was on.
If the BBC is for readers of the Guardian then Channel Four appears to cater for those who waste their money on the Independent. I have just listened to a misrepresentation of the Police raid on a house in Forest Gate.
” 250 Police stormed this house wearing chemical suits”
Oh dear, how do you get 250 people through a window and into one house? The Black Hole of Forest gate perhaps? If 250 people were in one house at the same time then it’s not surprising someone got shot. I think it is more likely that some of the Officers were in fact engaged on the periphery on the road blocks for example. Others may have been in a control room, and others waiting to receive and process any prisoners.
All this proves of course is that you just cannot trust news readers and news teams to tell the truth. BBC or Chanel 4.
message for Johnathan Boyd Hunt:
I tried ordering a copy of your book on the Guardian stitch up of the Hamilton’s but it doesn’t appear to be available from your website anymore. Any way of getting hold of it?
Hippihooter (and anyone else):
If you type either my full name or the title of my book, Trial by Conspiracy, in inverted commas in Google you’ll find it available all over the place for a few quid, plus postage.
Alternatively, if you sent me a crisp tenner I’ll send you a signed copy plus a 90 minute DVD plus a CD containing more than thirty high-res j-peg photographic scans of articles and reviews of the book, plus whatever else I think you might like.
(My book is in hardback: the tenner would just about cover the cost of the postage, the padded bag, and the discs.)
If that interests you send it to my home address:
82 Seymour Grove,
Manchester M16 0LW
And thanks for your interest.
I see the seven year old survivour has gone from surviving the bombing because she was swimming to being asleep under a blanket. Those Teflon coated blankets are a must in any Palli household thesedays.
‘Huda, who was asleep under a blanket when the explosion occurred, has been symbolically adopted by Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Ismail Haniya.’
Who does the weekend visit?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5067414.stm
The most absurd HYS quote-in-a-box on that page:
“Cool heads should intervene and think about the consequences. Israelis and Palestinians are now so intertwined they cannot exist without the other”
Sam Wren, Woking, UK
I think the Israelis would do very well without the Palestinians.
The Pals on the other hand haven’t managed to do anything much with newly Judenrein Gaza, other than use it as a base to launch rockets into Israel.
Sam Wren of Woking doesn’t seem to realise that Palestinians do not want Israelis to exist anywhere in the Middle East.
By the way, I once spent a fortnight in Woking one afternoon.
JBH,
I really would be careful giving out your full address. Set up a disposable e-mail account at yahoo for that kind of thing.
The last thing you want is some nutter starting a personal vendetta against you.
Palestinian rockets hit an Israeli school the other day. Luckily it was empty at the time.
Did the BBC show us film of the incident ? To say that dozens of children could have died from the direct hit ?
The bias of the BBC is spreading beyond its boundaries. Normally my newspaper of choice is The Daily Telegraph yet today’s report on the ‘deaths’ on the beach stated clearly that ‘it woz the jooz wot dun it’. For a split second I thought that there had been incontrovertible evidence released by Israel to that effect, then the author of the piece came to mind – Tim Butcher, ex-BBC, and doesn’t it show.
BTW, that video is definitely a Pallywood production. Israel needs to get its act together and refute this shit pdq. They’ve already been caught in the starting blocks before and the sooner they realise that the BBC is Pallywood’s main distributor the better.
Well, the Israelis could brush up on their PR, but I don’t think it would make much of a dent anywhere.
It’s just a matter of irreconcilable differences between Israelis, who celebrate life, and terrorists and their numerous sympathisers, who celebrate death.
Grimer, thanks a lot.
It’s okay. I (think I) know what I’m doing. Anyone with 30 minutes to spare on Google can find out where I live. And I’ve fixed it so that should anything happen to me the fucking balloon goes up.
Wot?! You’ve wired all the Trident missiles to launch at the BBC TV Centre if you ‘fall’ onto the Central Line….?
Grimer has a good point actually mate. Email not so bad, website fine as you can always keep the spammers etc away with a bit of effort. Giving out the home address – I know it is often public anyway but why make their job easier?
Set up a PO Box on the Island of Gruinard or somewhere and arrange for mail to be forwarded that way if they come visiting in person they’ll get an itch or two to take home with them and they’ll never really be sure the island was properly decontaminated……
*insert evil laugh here*
Now 670 odd posts on this thread….Gawd it is getting hard to find the latest entries….
Andrew:
Since we are nearly at Wimbledon…new threads please!
Bryan,
but that doesn’t explain the reaction of the Israelis – who seem prepared to admit guilt.
Perhaps we should refer back to the Mohammed Dura fiasco. The IDF were very quick to ‘admit’ they were probably responsible for the ‘death’. Only later did forensic evidence show how improbable it was that the IDF had anything to do with it. It was much later that the staged elements of the ‘shooting’ gained credibility.
So why do they do it?
Dave t:
Of course I take your point entirely • I’m not totally bereft of common sense.
But I guess I’ve been conditioned by the ballsy, don’t-give-a-flying-fuck example of one of my supporters, the noted historian and former editor of the New Statesman, Paul Johnson of The Spectator, who published his home telephone number, his fax number, and his home address in the Spectator on 11 April 1998 and invited readers to contact him with examples of The Guardian’s maleficences.
I guess I figure that if Paul Johnson had the balls to do it then so ought I.
Let the bad fuckers do their worst. I’ve gone through enough shit as it is so a little more shouldn’t be too much to stomach. But thanks anyway. I really do appreciate it.
Dave T, consider your wish granted – sorry about the lack of posts – I’ve been a bit busy, as, I presume, have been my B-BBC colleagues.
If you can’t see the new posts straightaway try holding down shift and clicking on refresh/reload in your browser.
Just phoned 08700 100 222 to try to point out to the beeb that there were inconsistencies in the Gaza Beach Massacre story.
I said that there were several points but I would restrict myself to 2 for the sake of brevity.
1. I said that the obvious scene that was missing from the clips was any sign of a crater on the beach.
2. I then said that the little girl who had been running around in distress was later seen calmly walking along as the ambulancemen ran past her (a point made by pounce above).
The beeboid then interrupted me to say that what I was saying was just personal opinion and the beeb really could not allow such comment to go forward on the management log.
It sounded to me as if they had received some other calls along these lines and had worked out this policy for ignoring them.
Perhaps others could phone up and see if they get the same reaction.
Heard a little snippet on Radio 2 very early this morning (about 5:15am)that I know you will enjoy.
Newsagent from Nottingham: “I’m just putting in the little bits of paper that you like to shake out of your Guardian”.
Pete Marshall: “I’m glad you said the Guardian and not the Daily Mail”.
Gordon Bennett,
I’ve somehow managed to get a comment published on HYS that points out the inconsistencies in that video. They seem to be moving the debate off the main HYS site very quickly. Maybe they realise they’ve messed up and want the whole thing to disappear.
Grimer | 11.06.06 – 1:07 am
Yes, I saw your comment (chatmandu?) and was surprised that you managed to get that under their radar. Needless to say, I recommended it.
Having looked at that topic a few times I get the impression that a lot of pro-pal comments with high recommendation counts have suddenly appeared.
Looks like the fix is in.
After SimpsonGate, their treatment of the “Gaza Beach Massacre” is deja vu all over again.
Nesws 24 are merely saying ‘an explosion’ instead of shell fire or whatever……hmm
JBH – I have a spare flak jacket should you need it…..
Andrew: Cheers me dear!
*said in a Cornish accent* (to confuse those trying to work out where I live..)
deegee,
So why do they do it?
I believe it’s out of a sense of humanity. The world’s anti-Israel assault when these incidents occur is so judgemental and implacable that Israel feels the need to counter it by pointing out that it regrets civilian deaths.
She went for a swim ?
In all her clothes ? They didn’t look wet.
Or NOT in her dress ? So her parents would have kept the dress ? So how come she has it back on again ?
A bomb hitting a building will cause the sort of high-pressure body damage that appears to have killed Zarqaqi.
But the alleged family was not all standing together – the girl is seen running to a lone body.
Dows a shell explosion in the open air kill EVERYONE ? No – there were claims of wounded being taken to hospital. So how come ALL the family is claimed to have died – when it appears that they were not all standing together ?
One helluva lot more questions than answers on this incident. Just heard on Israel radio that the IDF stated that they were not firing artillery at the time of the incident. However, earlier Israel radio reported that six artillery shells were fired and they can only account for five.
Still, it could also have been a radically misfired Kassam or perhaps kids playing with an unexploded artillery shell.
The Palestinians would not cooperate at first witht the IDF probe but have now apparently handed over the shell fragments to the IDF. Interesting. This story is far from over.
Meanwhile a Sderot cleaner is fighting for his life after an early-morning Kassam attack on a school.
hello dumbcisco, sorry it took so long to reply to your nuttiness. Perhaps I won’t comment any further if you continue to mis-represent what I am saying (not like a right-winger to do that). However, you provide me with so many good laughs I will keep reading your interesting viewpoint (even if it is like listening to a Bush government spokesman….my god you’re not are you???). I am slightly concerned by the way you have been brain washed by the MSM but at least you express your own point of view, not that of the Republican government (er…..). Given that I live in Toryland, I have come across many right-wingers before (in this part of the country everyone is a rightie). Thankfully, your views are in the minority as most people tend to think for themselves instead of parroting Bush, Fox et all.
As for ‘orgasnised’ terrorism…there is no such thing. Organised terrorism is a different thing (maybe that was a typo due to your reactionary tendencies…it is so easy to wind up a right-winger and watch him go!!). When I said there was no organised terroist threat, I meant from al-Qaeda. As any fool would understand (as far as I know ETA is not a threat to the world – but then you may know differently) from my previous comments. Of course ETA and the IRA was organised, that is obvious in the extreme but thanks for pointing it out.
And don’t lump Germany into one country. While your point may be geographically accurate, it is not politically or historically. I for one don’t want to forget the difference between the evil regime in the East and the government of Western Germany. By refusing the distinction you whitewash the evils of Honecker et al (which surprises me from a right-winger).
Finally, when you guys worship at the altar of Bill O’Reilly, what are your thoughts on him accusing allied forces at Malmedy of shooting prisoners?? Not bad going demonising the allied forces who were liberating countries from a fascist regime. Is that what you want to replace the BBC???
korova | Homepage | 11.06.06 – 6:44 pm
I notice your blog receives almost no comments and has links to such “intellectuals” as noam chomsky, george monbiot and michael moore.
Nuff said.
time for ignore for korova, methinks
good answer. wow. I feel bowled over by your intellectual points of view. You might want to work on your powers of persuasion, as well as your comprehension.
Yawn
korova,
Then you feel too much.
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