on active service in Afghanistan, the fourth and fifth such deaths in the course of a week. Their deaths were reported as the second item on this evening’s BBC Ten O’Clock News bulletin. What story was judged by the BBC as being more important than the sacrifice of two British soldiers?
Yes, you’ve guessed it – the BBC’s fifteen minute long Ten O’Clock News programme was led by a full five minutes on the resignation of David Beckham as Captain of the England football team, with filmed pieces about the return of the squad (oh look, an aeroplane landing), the disappointment of Sven Goran Eriksson and an obituary style review of David Beckham’s time as captain, “those legendary free kicks”, and so on, even though Beckham has made it clear that he’s staying on as an England player.
The Beckham story is a big story – a big sports story – but it shouldn’t have led the Ten O’Clock News on any but the slowest of news days, and certainly not on a day with sad news like today. It’s not as if England’s football disappointment wasn’t fully covered yesterday, over and above the deaths of sixty people in a Baghdad bombing.
The producers of the Ten O’Clock News should be ashamed of their choice this evening – the British Broadcasting Corporation should know better.
he should count himself lucky.
if he was in Gaza, his house would be demolished.
“We really should set up a BBS system. which would allow for nice formatting and also a good split of topics.”
i can only speak for myself, but i find the current comments method perfect for quick-fire posting on bias. BBS interfaces generally get in the way (too many clicks…)
Q: When does the BBC cover up interesting details?
A: When those details embarrass the soft-left socialist-lite world view of White City.
When, for instance, will the BBC get around the mentioning the past of Christian Briggs, who was a co-ordinater for the Truth Justice Peace Human Shield Action Group in Iraq.
And who is now facing serious assault charges after allegedly punching a young man, leaving him in a coma.
Here’s the NZ Herald’s take…
A New Zealand peace activist is facing serious assault charges after he allegedly punched a rock singer in London, leaving the man in a coma.
Christiaan Briggs, 30, who spent three weeks in Iraq with the Truth Justice Peace Human Shield Action Group in 2003, appeared at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday to face a charge of grievous bodily harm.
Police say the incident occurred on June 22 when Briggs allegedly punched 19-year-old Billy Leeson, causing the rising rock star to hit his head on the ground.
Leeson, the lead singer with rock band Les Incompetents – who have supported Pete Doherty’s group Babyshambles – was “still very ill”, said Scotland Yard spokesman James Nadin.
His condition was described as “critical but stable”.
And here’s the BBC’s…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/5139976.stm
Nope, nothing there, except a probable misspelling of the defendant’s first name. The BBC has one ‘A’ in Christian and the Herald’s has two. My money’s on the Herald.
The BBC HYS people must be feeling very ungood. The overwhelming number of comments in their “How can Muslims be engaged” HYS seem to be very angry with Muslims. In fact the number of un pc comments is overwhelming. It makes me wonder, who actually does run the BBC? Has it been infiltrated by Jihadis and their sympathisers. I’d love it if ITV was to do a documentary about infiltrating the BBC like they do about infiltrating Al Qaeda cells. It would be funny too, The Guardian cell next.
Q: When does the BBC cover up interesting details?
Why here?
A leading Muslim has accused Tony Blair of playing an “unhelpful blame game” by suggesting moderate Muslims are doing too little to challenge extreme views.
Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, the Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, said Mr Blair’s remarks could hamper the good work being done.
Moderate Muslims had promoted dialogue and peace in their communities since the 2001 attacks in the US, he said.
And Mr Blair risked obscuring the real reasons for last year’s London attacks.
And what are they? The BBC do not tell us. Did Br Bari tell the BBC the certain reason for the attacks? Seems he knows but wants someone else to tell.
He utterly condemned the violence of last July but wants a public inquiry to reveal the factors behind it.
How could the BBC allow this claim to go unclarified? Are even the BBC getting tired spelling out the mantra “Its Afghanistan & Iraq wot dun it?”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5152854.stm
Christiaan Briggs, 30, who spent three weeks in Iraq with the Truth Justice Peace Human Shield Action Group in 2003, appeared at Highbury Corner Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday to face a charge of grievous bodily harm.
Peace activist actually violent aggressor. Never! Must be a Daily Mail slur.
jeremy vine is going to cover “internet rumours” about prescott.
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The proper headline for that story should be
“Bomber’s father still in tiotal denial”
DENIAL is the big story on this first anniversary – the sheer extent of denial, the sheer ignirance in our midst that is helping fuel the risk of further terriorist attacks.
THAT is what the BBC should be reporting. THAT is what they should be challenging the so-called leaders about – “Why haven’t you eliminated this stupidity from your communities, why do you let these murderous excuses continue ”
Cut the BS. Go straight to the core. There is heavy denial, and a welter of false excuses.
And the reast of Britain – which the BBC does NOT interview – is sick of it.
Archduke, you’re not protecting BBBC from potential writs by doing that. Although Guido Fawkes has had the name up for a couple of days now and still no writs, unless you had cast-iron proof yourself, it’s potentially very expensive to repeat rumours.
Having said that…
http://5thnovember.blogspot.com/
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It is down to muslims to stop living in their closed communities, and intergrate into society insted of trying to build their own standalone society within the UK, Banning faith schools and muslim only community centres is needed, as in a way these things are in themselves discriminating against non muslims in society. there cannot be special rules for minority groups, they live in the UK,and must be willing to be treated as western europeans, and not try and change the UK to suit themselves.
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Well Muslim communities need to stop thinking of themselves as Muslim communities – they are a British community. It is not the task of everyone around them to take responsibility for their actions, they know all too well where the problems lie, and they just choose not to acknowledge them.
It is time for the Muslim community as they call themselves, to wake up and realize that they are not living in an Islamic state, and if that upsets them, they are free to leave.
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I dont understand why the majority of the country is being asked to “intergrate” with a community which represents less then 5% of our population. Surely the question should be how can the muslim community intergrate with us. People have choices as to how they live their lives and if people do not wish to intergrate with us then perhaps its time for them to excercise their right to leave.
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Added: Tuesday, 4 July, 2006, 08:46 GMT 09:46 UK
It seems we are bending over backwards to encompass the muslim community, only to be continually told its not enough. The community is British not Muslim, catholic, protestant, Hindu or any other religion.
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Muslims who live in our country must consider themselves “British by association” and distance themselves from the belief that we are the “enemy”. We have opened up our country to them over the years whether they emigrated or came in as assylum seekers but their allegiance is to this country whether they like it or not. If by chance they don’t like how we live then they must feel free to leave and go to an Islamic state where they will feel safe.
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“Some 2% suggested they would be proud if a family member decided to join al-Qaeda, while 16% would be “indifferent”.
It frightens me that 300,000 UK Muslims directly or indirectly support the ambitions of al-Qaeda. I’m truly sorry that with such a potential terrorist supportive base I am finding it increasingly difficult to accept followers of the Muslim faith as my welcome neighbour.
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Should the question not be ‘why do muslims not engage themselves more?’ Why do non muslims continue to take blame when these atrocities did not originate with non-muslims? If the muslim community are so sorry for the loss of life and continued threats to a country which they apparently want to integrate with, why have they not been proactive in implementing proposals?
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If we are now in a situation where the government is expected to be resposible for engaging a community – then I’m afraid it will never work. The only people who can ensure the muslim community are engaged are the muslims themselves. If I have dealings with any muslim on any level, they get the same treatment as anybody else, and that will never change. The onus should not be put upon the rest of soceity to fit in with the teachings of Islam.
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Perhaps we are asking the wrong question; not how can the Muslim community be engaged but rather does the Muslim community want to be engaged? Let’s ask that question first before we assume that those Muslims residing in the UK actually want to intergrate. Perhaps the real problem is not that they feel unable to do so but rather that they actually do not want to be part of the indigenous society in which they find themselves. This is not just a British problem.
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In order for people to become engaged, they surely must WANT to be engaged. I’m not entirely convinced that the Muslim community of this country are whole-heartedly signed up for the multicultural ideology.
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Isn’t it about time certain communities engaged with the big one called Great Britain? Religion should be a individual and personal choice. People shouldn’t sub-divide themselves away from general society, and the tax-payer should not encourage it by printing everything in 43 languages and allowing Ghettos to form. As usual, the left finds a way of blaming the law abiding majority with the failings of certain “communities” to fit in with what is an astonishingly tolerant and generous society.
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Oh good, another muslim story! The figures suggesting that 18% of muslims asked (1 in 5) said they would either be pleased or indifferent if a member of their family joined Al-Qaeda worries me. I accept that the majority want this stamping out as much as anyone else but again, a lot of people asked said that they either partly agreed with the attacks or could understand why they had been done. Surely it is up to the muslim community to integrate with others, not the other way around.
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It is time that people realise that if they go to another country, they need to fit in with that culture, not expect that culture to adapt to us. Our family spent 6 years in the UK and always felt that we were the ones to adapt. Some condemned us because we were from the US and made terrible remarks to us about our country and just refused to accept us. However, we felt that was their right even though we felt they misunderstood. You are British. Remain British.
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The issue is not “engaging” the community, the issue is getting Muslim communities across the UK to be fully integrated into our indiginous communities as a whole. It seems to me that many people in those communities don’t wish that and many still don’t speak english despite having been here a decade or more. Unless these communities do integrate more, statistics like 400,000 having sympathis with jihad in this country will continue.
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Obviously a culture of blame is never going to achieve anything. But what really alienates we non-Muslim British is the sense that it is always us being blamed. We should start to apply the same sort of standards and expectations put upon Britons who live/work in Islamic countries as I did forseven years in the 80s. It was tough at times, but I respected local conventions, was fairly treated and always had the opportunity to leave. We take too much blame too readily.
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COMPARE AND CONTRAST in the Guardian today:
“In Birmingham, near the Hashmi family’s home in Bordesley Green, some young Muslim men also spoke out.
“I don’t see how any Muslim can be in the British army, not with all the shit that’s happening in Muslim countries. It doesn’t make sense. It’s not right. There’s no space for Muslims in the army,” said a 25-year-old who would only give his name as Saleem. “Of course it’s a tragedy and I feel for them [his family]. But what was he doing over there? He was an Asian dude fighting a white man’s war. Basically, we can’t be like the goreh [white people] and they can’t be like us.”
HOWEVER:
L/Cpl Hashmi’s brother, Zeeshan, said: “My brother went in [to Afghanistan] in a peacekeeping role.He was doing a job that was worthwhile.”
He condemned those Muslims who were criticising the young soldier.
“These Muslim brothers who are willing to carry out suicide bombings and sell drugs to fellow Muslims, they still think they have the ability to criticise people who want to do things differently,” he said. “With the anniversary of the July 7 bombings approaching, it is important to try and break down the barriers in society. You can be proud to be Muslim and British – the two don’t have to be separate.”
Mr Hashmi, who has also served in the army, revealed that his brother kept the news he was going to Afghanistan from his mother, to stop her from worrying.
http://www.modoracle.com/?page=http://www.modoracle.com/news/detail.h2f?id=11140
When ARE the BBC et al going to concentrate on the good Muslims in this country who make such a great contribution instead of concentrating on the likes of Saleem who thinks he should stay apart from the society in which he lives? More to the point when are the Government going to crack down on the lying Imans and community leaders who are encouraging this atttiude since it keeps them in power within their community?
I just came across this, as one does, and I wonder why the BBC doesn’t quote any of this, it comes after all from that trustworthy Human Rights Watch. More bias by omission.
My favourite quote:
It is unacceptable for Hamas to express its unhappiness with the political situation by firing on civilians.
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2005/06/09/isrlpa11106_txt.htm
Hamas Must End Attacks Against Civilians
Cease Use of Qassam Rockets
(Jerusalem, June 9, 2005) — Hamas must cease immediately Qassam rocket and mortar attacks against civilian areas, Human Rights Watch said today.
Hamas mortar shells and Qassam rockets killed three civilian workers (two Palestinian and one Chinese) and injured an Israeli woman and her two children in an attack that struck a packing plant in the Israeli settlement of Ganei Tal in Gaza and the Israeli town of Sderot yesterday. Both Israeli and Palestinian analysts suspect that Hamas’s continued use of mortar and Qassam attacks against civilians is an expression of the group’s displeasure at the cancellation of local election results in localities that favored Hamas and the recent postponement of the Palestinian Legislative Council elections.
‘Hamas has repeatedly failed to respect a fundamental rule of international humanitarian law by attacking civilians and civilian objects,’ said Sarah Leah Whitson, executive director of the Middle East and North Africa Division of Human Rights Watch. ‘It is unacceptable for Hamas to express its unhappiness with the political situation by firing on civilians.’
Any party to any armed conflict is obligated to abide by international humanitarian law (the laws of war). International humanitarian law prohibits direct attacks against civilians and civilian objects as well as indiscriminate attacks and attacks that cause disproportionate damage to civilians. A prohibited indiscriminate attack includes using weapons that are incapable of discriminating between civilians and combatants or between civilian and military objects.
Human Rights Watch said that Qassam rockets, named after the armed wing of Hamas, Ezzedine al-Qassam Brigades, are by their very nature problematic weapons because it is not possible to direct them at military targets with any degree of precision. They are primitive, short-range, home-made rockets that do not have the technical capability to be guided. Typically, a Qassam is made up of a 1-meter-long tube filled with six kilograms of explosives and has a range of between three to ten kilometers. The longest shot to date was an 8-kilometer attack on Ashkelon, an Israeli town 8 kilometers north of the Gaza Strip. Because Qassams are not capable of accurate targeting, it is unlawful to use them in or near areas populated with civilians.
‘If Hamas wants to be considered a legitimate political actor in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, it must show respect for the most basic principles of humanitarian law,’ said Whitson. ‘To date, it has failed to do so.’
According to the Israel Defense Forces, Hamas has launched more than 300 Qassam rockets since September 2000. All of the victims of the rockets have been civilians. Including this most recent attack, there have been eight civilian deaths from Qassam rockets, four of them children, as well as many civilian injuries and damage to civilian infrastructure, such as homes. Not a single one of these attacks has hit a military target.
Nice quote from the Guardian website today for dumcisco…
“Professor P A J Waddington of Reading University has pointed out that the London bombings were followed by a series of evasions: denial of responsibility (the bombers were victims of alienation), blaming the victim (Londoners were collectively guilty for the war in Iraq), and denial of injury (the number killed on 7/7 were a handful in comparison to those who have died in Afghanistan and Iraq).
This is relativism run wild, a wilful obfuscation of the principles of moral responsibility. Free societies are not defeated by terror, but they begin to die when they lose their moral sense. As long as excuses are made for terror, freedom itself will remain at risk.”
Chief Rabbi, Dr Jonathan Sacks
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/stephen_bates/2006/07/the_chief_rabbi_speaks.html
archduke
On “Today” this morning, the no. 2 in the present government declined to deny that, besides his dalliance with his appointments secretary, he has not had other affairs. Seems that info concerning [deleted]
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With DoublePlusUngoodQuotes round ‘affairs’ since it is now being alleged that women he allegedly tried to allegedly have alleged affairs with but rebuffed him are [deleted – with regret, it was funny.]
Oh God this is such fun! Please let him stay! He’s worth thousands of votes to opposition parties! And THAT stupid blown kiss to the TV cameras on the news last night will have infuriated people! Brains of a pea that man has (allegedly)
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Biased BBC and how it falsifies the news in which to paint a negative Israeli bent for its masters;
Three dead in fresh Gaza fighting
Columns of Israeli armour headed into Gaza at daybreak
Israeli forces have killed three people in the Gaza Strip, as they continued their thrust deeper into Palestinian territory, clashing with militants.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5153036.stm
Did you read that bit about the IDF continuing their deep thrust into Palestinian territory folks. So just what is a deep thrust?
Well for the non military people out there it is when you campaign deep into enemy territory
So here are a few examples;
Six day war
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/1967_Six_Day_War_-_conquest_of_Sinai_7-8_June.jpg
Operation Barbarossa
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/Eastern_Front_1941-06_to_1941-09.png
The invasion of France (and the lowlands)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/1940FranceBlitz.jpg
All of the above are examples of deep military thrusts in which to gain the advantage on the battle field.
So back to that nice little story about a deep military thrust in Palestine territory by the IDF. From the Al Beeb article;
‘Witnesses said tanks moved into the area of the abandoned Jewish settlements Nissanit, Dugit and Elei Sinai at dawn and took up positions’
So the IDF advance has taken them to the 3 settlements as dictated above. Let me show you here those settlements are;
http://www.mideastweb.org/mgaza.htm
Have a look at the top and see where Nissanit, Dugit and Elei Sinai really are. Now look at the bottom of that map of Gaza and have a butchers at the scale. The former and the latter are right on the border. Dugit the furthest is around 1.5 miles from the border. Hardly the deep military thrust into another country Al Beeb leads you to believe.
Al Beeb dancing to its masters fiddle once again.
Paul Mason (newsnight) has a quite interesting blog post:
http://blogs.bbc.co.uk/paulmason/2006/07/prezza_the_bloggers_and_paxman.html
yup – its about prescott, Guido/Ian Dale, and the internet rumour mill.
v.interesting seeing how this is playing out in cyberspace first, and then being reflected in mainstream media.
simo -> i understand your concern, and B-BBC are perfectly entitled to remove any posts they see fit.
*however* Paul Mason’s blog , on which comments are pre-approved and go through a censorship process, has allowed this to be posted:
” And all that quite apart from his developing reputation as a serial groper and adulterer.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulmason/2006/07/prezza_the_bloggers_and_paxman.html
if you ask me, thats a bit more direct than talking about [deleted]
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“Comments are moderated, and will not appear on this weblog until the author has approved them.”
which means Paul Mason has seen that comment, and approved it.
you can smell the scandal a mile off.
paul mason , again:
“Now call me old fashioned, but either the libel laws apply to these blogs the same as they do to Newsnight, ”
somebody could correct me here, but if the blog is hosted in America, as this one is, then there’s bugger all anyone can do about it – or am i completely wrong? anyone care to comment on the legal aspect of this point? i am quite curious about this.
[You are completely wrong. Material is deemed to have been legally published in Britain if even one person has read it in Britain.]
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Write your own headline time…
“Al Qaeda is set to release a new video tape featuring one of the suicide bombers from last year’s London attacks, according to Ben Venzke at the IntelCenter. Venzke says the as-Sahab production house will be putting out a tape on the Internet sometime Thursday that includes a video last will and testament of Shahzad Tanweer as well as a new statement from the al Qaeda number two leader Ayman al-Zawahiri.
The tape is also expected to include former Californian Adam Gadahn, who now goes by the name of Azzam al-Amriki. Gadahn is believed by U.S. authorities to be running the al Qaeda propaganda operation from a secret location somewhere inside of Pakistan.
Release of the tape the day before the London anniversary bombings suggest that al Qaeda had a significant role in the attacks which killed 52 and injured hundreds.”
Reported by Brian Ross at…
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/07/new_al_qaeda_ta.html
AH yes, Paul Mason’s blog. Hey Paul, here’s a tip: if you’re trying to debunk charges of bias don’t refer to an opponent as a ‘Toryboy’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulmason/2006/07/prezza_the_bloggers_and_paxman.html
” And all that quite apart from his developing reputation as a serial groper and adulterer.”
If you ask me, thats a bit more direct than talking about [deleted]
I don’t think so, Archduke, as it’s been a matter of public record for some time.
That is to say he was outed as an adulterer and ritually eviscerated in the Sundays by a legion of triumphant Glendas, based on what Temple said in the MoS and allegations by another woman. And, probably, based on what the Glendas already know about Presco.
Their “groper/disgrace/menace to women everywhere” attacks duly went uncontested by Prescott.
And so Mason feels he’s on safe ground to call Presco a serial groper.
However, it’s different to actually name, or hint the name, of one of his alleged conquests, as you might then face action from the supposed conquest, who might not like the inferences the media and public will now draw about her burgeoning career.
Or the mental image people might get of a sheep being mounted by a blue whale.
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Are you sitting down?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5150748.stm
Please try not to kick something, vomit or otherwise lose it……
jonathan -> staggering.
not one mention of September 11th, 2001.
From that article:
“Reagan’s perceived victory in the Cold War”
So the Berlin Wall falling was only an imaginary event? All the Poles helping to keep the UK’s economy alive are just ghosts?
US law makes libel against public officials almost impossible to prove.
Here we go…
“A video allegedly showing London bomber Shehzad Tanweer has been aired on al-Jazeera television.”
Allegedly?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5154714.stm
Steve E.:
Here we go…
“A video allegedly showing London bomber Shehzad Tanweer has been aired on al-Jazeera television.”
Pass the sick bag. Still, if we pull out of Iraq & Afghanistan everything will be ok. 7/11 anyone?
From FOX news:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202343,00.html
Khan, 30, claimed that the British public were to blame for the terror attacks because of their support for Western governments which “continuously perpetuate atrocities” against the Islamic world.
“We are at war and I am a soldier,” Khan said.
Strange that the BBC left that quote out of their report. The word ‘war’ doesn’t appear the BBC report. “No war to see here, just a bunch of nice friendly muslims, move along now…”
The BBC – Brings you the news, with bits omitted.
why there are so few nuclear power stations in the uk
while sweden had a public debate about nuclear power in the 1980s we had the bbc showing us anti nuclear power programmes with music taken directly from horror films.these programmes scared the hell out of us and so we now have fewer nuclear power stations then france.
another chapter in the harm that the bbc has done to this country.
Not quite right, Ritter.
ABC were quoting that other scumbag Siddique Khan who brought out his own video explanation for his atrocious act last year.
whoops! apologies getting my plumbers mixed up.
Al Beeb and how it spreads the message of fear for its masters.
Video of 7 July bomber released
A video allegedly showing London bomber Shehzad Tanweer has been aired on al-Jazeera television.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5154714.stm
1) He says, in a Yorkshire accent: “What have you witnessed now is only the beginning of a string of attacks that will continue and become stronger.”
The attacks will continue “until you pull your forces out of Afghanistan and Iraq”, he says.
So lets look at how the propaganda wing at Al Beeb works;
‘Yorkshire accent’. meaning he was home grown and thus every Muslim could be the enemy.
‘The beginning of a string of attacks’ meaning we will terrorise you until you do as we demand not by the ballot box but by the bullet and the bomb.
‘until you pull your forces out of Afghanistan and Iraq’ meaning we at Al Beeb have been against this war against our masters and so we will continue to spread our anti war message in order to ensure that Europe (never mind Great Britain) becomes subservient to our masters demands.
(Noticed Al Beeb is leaving off the story about how we should get rid of St George as it offends a certain religion)
Yes this is news, but the prominence Al Beeb gives it during the first anniversary of what AL beeb refered to as an act committed by misguided criminals
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4671577.stm
Is more about spreading fear amongst the great unwashed and thus push for a withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan via a political settlement than removing the spectre of evil that is radical religious terrorism.
These people exist Al Beeb trying to promote this vision that IT is our fault, that it WE who must change shows how disjointed you have become in the world of today.
You continue in your quest in trying to excuse the acts of those who have no wish to live peacefully amongst us. The next atrocity to hit these shores will polarize the masses even more against these peaceful people who have nothing but love for us all. (No matter how fluffy you try to say they are)
The problem is even if they set off a truck bomb next to Buck house the damage they are doing to their own PR is nothing compared to the damage done to their image by those at Bush House.
Pounce,
They are running a (D)HYS on the video. I seriously doubt my “I hope he burns in hell for what he did.” comment will get published.
Maybe Biased-BBC should team up with BetFair and run a book on BBC bias – use of key words, etc.
at least fox news tells it straight
“Terror’s New Face”
http://www.foxnews.com/
Note in the BBC report, the words “suicide”,”terrorist”, “islam” and “muslim” are missing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5154714.stm
i can understand the BBC leaving out some of the words (political correctness), but to leave out “suicide”?
what the hell is going on over there?
Re my post above concerning the BBC article on GWB’s 60th:
I think the reason character assassinations like this are so easy is because, let’s face it, Bush is hardly the world’s best public speaker. He stumbles over words, appears nervous, and incidentally his accent is something that the British middle-class elite will immediately label with the dumb-southern-hick stereotype.
To mistake this for stupidity or incompetence speaks of massive snobbery and is in fact an indicator of stupidity in itself. Worse, when it regards one of the world’s key political figures, it’s ethically unforgivable.
I think Bush’s political decsions, at home and abroad, whether or not you agree with them, would be judged differently by low-quality sources such as the BBC if he had the media abilities of his dad.
Time to revise?
The father of London bomber Hasib Hussain has said he could not believe his son was capable of the attack.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5149488.stm
in light of
A video showing London tube bomber Shehzad Tanweer has been aired on al-Jazeera television.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5154714.stm
as even the deluded father admits
Mr Hussain revealed that the other three suicide bombers had come to his house, and described them as well-behaved people.
Now that 2 of them have videos released (maybe he will have to wait for the 3rd anniversary for his son’s effort to appear), perhaps the BBC article should point out that the man is barking.
Biased BBC spreads its anti western message for its masters
Blair’s Muslim views ‘unhelpful’
Dr Bari said much good work has been done
A leading Muslim has accused Tony Blair of playing an “unhelpful blame game” by suggesting moderate Muslims are doing too little to challenge extreme views.
Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, the Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain, said Mr Blair’s remarks could hamper the good work being done.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5152854.stm
Good work ?
Pray tell us Al Beeb has that good work entailed a peace march by hundreds of thousands of Moderate Muslims protesting not in our name against the bombings of last year in London?
Has the MCB taken out a newspaper article in every newspaper saying these people do not represent them?
Why Al beeb I’ve not come across even 1 plumber web site that condemns what transpired last July without blaming Iraq/Afghanistan/racism etc..
But I have seen thousands protest on the streets against the war in Iraq/Afghanistan /Hijab/iran/ Carttons etc..
Priorities eh?
So anybody else thinks AL Beeb is watching this blogg?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5153036.stm
Witnesses said tanks moved into an area of abandoned Jewish settlements in the northern Gaza Strip at dawn and dug in.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41853000/gif/_41853480_gaza_north_new_map203.gif
Posted just over an hour after I explained the deep thrust angle which funny enough is missing from this story.
I have just watched a video from the Beeb website, of Frank Gardner commenting on the video of Shehzad Tanweer. Gardner’s whole tone and attitude is unbelievable. His tone is sympathetic. He says “……….if it’s genuine”. It’s bloody obvious it’s genuine! And it’s to cause maximum trouble and stir up grief and anger on the one year anniversary.
He explains caringly what Tanweer is wearing on his head, the Arabic name and its meaning. He explains nicely why Tanweer is fighting the British electorate. All this from a man put in a wheelchair by Muslim terrorists. Gardner sounds like [unduly personal comments deleted.]
Hazel
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That ridiculous article talks of the November elections with the Dems looking set to “hammer” the Republicans.
That is outright total rubbish.
Whatever Bush’s approval ratings, there are no clear signs that the Dems will win enough new seats in the Senate to take control – let alone the House.
Once again we have the BBC showing that the wish is father tio the thought. Don’t bother with the facts, don’t do your research – just write your prejudices
From that story:
Ashkelon – more than 10km (seven miles) north of Gaza – was thought to be out of range of crudely-built Palestinian rockets, which usually fall just beyond Gaza’s border with Israel.
… we learn that the Palestinian rockets are still being made out of sealing wax, knotted string, a fairy liquid bottle and a pair of Val’s old knickers.
“So anybody else thinks AL Beeb is watching this blogg?”
they are.
and Iain Dale’s , and Guido’s and a few others.
i dunno if you caught this earlier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulmason/2006/07/prezza_the_bloggers_and_paxman.html
(midway down – he links off to Guido and few others)
“we learn that the Palestinian rockets are still being made out of sealing wax, knotted string, a fairy liquid bottle and a pair of Val’s old knickers.
TheCuckoo”
will i get a Blue Peter badge for making one so?
looking forward to the “How to Build Your own Harmless Qassam” tutorial. I mean, the rockets are harmless aren’t they, so any kid could build one with a bit of sticky tape, bluetac, toilet rolls and baking soda.
“He’s sick, he needs a psychiatrist.”
natalie will probably give you a gentle slap for getting too personal about named BBC people (which is fair enough) – but i think i have raised this before, in that i think Gardner is suffering from post traumatic stress. He should NOT be on the television – its far far too early in my view. Something like what he went through takes years and years to get over.
i would hazard a guess that he would be far more truthful if he was writing under a pseudonym for a periodical or newspaper.
Archduke: “crudely-built Palestinian rockets” well having read the Wikipedia entry (though I stand to be corrected if there are faults there, as I have said before you guys know much more about this than I) it seems “crude” is a pretty fair term to use. Kassams don’t have a guidance system for example.
They are not comparible to the sort of rockets the Israeli Military would use.
Now you seem to chose to think that crude implies they are less risky than they clearly are. I think the word crude implies the opposite. The Palestinians have no control over them and they are much more dangerous because of that.
“To mistake this for stupidity or incompetence speaks of massive snobbery and is in fact an indicator of stupidity in itself. ”
Jonathan – i dont have the link , but i read somewhere that the “Bush=stupid” meme was actually encouraged by Karl Rove.
The reason being – if the “liberals” were calling him “stupid” all the time, then his core support would come out and support him – because it would be seen as an insult to them as well (just because of the way they speak etc).
And more the likes of the BBC call him stupid , the more hysterical it looks – it makes the anti-Bush crowd look like moonbats in other words.
Seems to have worked. That Rove guy is one seriously clever person.
alan -> “crude” is usually used in conjunction with “harmless” or “which haven’t injured/killed anyone”
it’s quite clear where the BBC is coming from.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5153036.stm
“Hamas’s military wing has fired two Qassam rockets at Ashkelon in the last 48 hours, the first time Palestinian militants have hit a major Israeli city with their crudely made rockets.
The rockets hit the grounds of a school, but did not cause serious damage or injury.
Ashkelon – more than 10km (seven miles) north of Gaza – was thought to be out of range of crudely-built Palestinian rockets, which usually fall just beyond Gaza’s border with Israel.”
Why re-iterate “crudely”? Pushing an agenda here? What’s wrong with just saying “rockets”?
Again, the term is used here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5151500.stm
“a crude home-made rocket”
home made? then how come the Israeli’s blew up a factory in Gaza recently, where they were made and stored en-masse?
and again here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5083434.stm
“a crude home-made rocket”
and here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3741236.stm
“who fire crude home-made rockets at the nearby Israeli town of Sderot”
Seems to be an awful lot of rockets being made at home by the Palis – are they all aeronautic engineers or something?
what the BBC never asks is – where are they getting the rocketry skills from? who is training them, and who is supplying them?