(this is basically two posts compressed into one, since the contrast is instructive)
The Shadowy Network versus the Oppressed Community
Stephen Pollard has a post about the BBC’s stereotypically running to the old old story, blaming the influence of American Jews for the lack of a united international front against Israel (ie. in favour of a resolution favouring Hezbullah). The whole thing is laced with prejudice, but Stephen points out it’s also factually wrong.
meanwhile…
The BBC presents this whine festival of US muslim opinion concerning the US President’s use of ‘Islamic fascism’ as a term for the British-born Muslim terrorists of (mainly, with some tragic exceptions) Pakistani extraction who were caught plotting [ed] to destroy myriad flights from Britain to the US the other day.
Not only does this show how lightly the BBC takes the actual terrorism involved (and we know how lightly they take it- video), it undermines a valid and important use of language (and, having listened to and read transcripts of Bush a lot, his use of language is not stupid- he is just insensitive to the self-important press’s pc self-censorship, a kind of media illiteracy necessary to getting anything done). Update: thanks to Grimer, Bush statement video here– rather deliberate use of language I’d say.
No doubt if there had been a successful attack and Tony Blair had become all Churchillian, they’d have been giving the whine fest for British Muslims.
But, notwithstanding their ‘expert’ opinion and numerous Islamic mouthpieces, the term ‘Islamic fascists’ is really very straightforward: fascists who are Islamic. Like this fellow for example :
“At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann’s deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:
The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. … He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.”
The belief in the “strong horse”, the inferiority of unbelievers (in the Nazi’s case non-aryans, but really non-believers in the Reich), the desire to exterminate the Jews and the veneration of conflict (jihad/kampf) are certainly reminiscent of nothing else but fascism.
When Bush used the term, my reaction was somewhat similar to Ian Dale’s:
“As soon as I heard him say it I smiled. Why? Because I knew the predictable handwringing outpourings of faux outrage we’d get from the liberal so-called intelligentsia.”
Cue Beeebies!
http://www.ahmadinejad.ir/
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Bwahahahaha!
and for the non computer literate? 🙂
“and for the non computer literate?”
it just means his web server has crashed.
however, i heartened to know that the iranians are using something as easily hackable/crashable/virus infectable as Microsoft Windows.
Forgive me if this has been linked elsewhere, its a bit long winded due to the detailed explanation of how TV pictures are distributed, but very revealing about why there is so much anti Israeli bias in the good ol Beeb!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22055_LGF_Exclusive-_How_Much_Does_It_Cost_to_Buy_Global_TV_News&only
Is this the sensation of the day? Al-beeb will NEVER show its darling terrorists in this mode!
It’s an execution in Jenin, so hold your stomachs!
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2006/08/a_demonstration.html
Let me get this straight :
Not all jews are off semitic extraction = I think that anyone practicising the Jewish faith is an inferior human being.
I don’t support the basis on which the state of israel is founded, or agree with the “right of return” = I think that anyone practicising the Jewish faith is an inferior human being.
I don’e agree with the way that Israel prosecutes “anti-terrorist” operaions in neighbouring states = I think that anyone practicising the Jewish faith is an inferior human being.
I get the picture all right, you lot are simply pathetic, what a sure way to stifle any debate. And all this by people who apparantley “love freedom”
test it is you that is pathetic.
Why is that AntiCitizenOne ? Bear in mind that not everyone who disagrees with Israeli foregin policy shares you own fascist views towards muslims.
I have to say I’m shocked at the sort of bile that gets spouted on this website where people can say that there are no such things as “moderate muslims” and no one bats an eyelid. It’s fascism by another name. The mereist hint of critiscm of israel results in the predictable badge of “anti-semite”.
test
No one seriously gives a frack what YOU think. Although your obsession with the racial characteristics of Jews is an interesting, and known, pathology.
You sound just like the the same old, same old Hellsbollahs-a-poppin’ islamo-nazi supporter to me.
And your interpretation of historical events is selective to say the least.
Of course, al-Beeb never points out that the heir to the nazi Grand Mufi was his nephew Yasser Arafat. And that it is this “nazi” Jew hating ideology that suffuses the Arab “Palestinian” entity to this very day.
6 million Jews in a land mass smaller than New Jersy v 500 million Arabs in a land mass bigger than the USA.
“Haj Amin al-Husseini eventually died in exile in 1974. He never returned to Jerusalem after his 1937 departure. His place as leader of the radical, nationalist Palestinian Arabs was taken by his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as Yasser Arafat. In August 2002, Arafat gave an interview in which he referred to “our hero al-Husseini” as a symbol of Palestinian Arab resistance.”
While the BBC are busy interviewing the airline plot suspect’s neighbours and saying what nice chaps they all are – I’m still waiting for a mention of this:
SUSPECT: I’LL KILL THEM ALL
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17553715%26method=full%26siteid=64736%26headline=exclusive%2d%2dsuspect%2d%2di%2dll%2dkill%2dthem%2dall-name_page.html
however, i heartened to know that the iranians are using something as easily hackable/crashable/virus infectable as Microsoft Windows.
archduke
Windows 2000 no less :-/
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ahmadinejad.ir
test,
It’s not inconceivable that there are such things as blue-eyed Arabs. The Ottomans were quite fond of raiding the Caucusus for blue-eyed blonde-haired slaves, and many of the women found their way into the harems of Arab sultans. The Barbary Pirates also raided Western Europe for white slaves for Arab harems, taking more than 1 million over two or three centuries.
I have to say I’m shocked at the sort of bile that gets spouted on this website where people can say that there are no such things as “moderate muslims” and no one bats an eyelid.
Dear test,
I’m sure you’re much happier on those web sites where people say that Jews have no right to live in Israel, that Ehud Olmert doesn’t “look like” a Jew, and of course you simply cannot be an antisemite because you actually know a Jew or two.
Goodbye.
Bio…
Don’t the Iranians use Windows 798…
(the year they’re turning back the clock to)
+ the pre-installed Anti-Jew virus?
Jack,
Windows NT software was developed by Microsoft-Israel.
The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel.
Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US in Israel.
Source: http://newsoftheday.com/
Susan,
Re blue-eyed Arabs:
There’s a scene in Lawrence of Arabia where TEL (Peter O’Toole), trying to pass himself off as an Arab, has been captured by the Turks in Derraa. The Turkish bey (Jose Ferrer) interrogates him: “You have blue eyes. I say you have blue eyes. Are you Circassian?”
Cheers.
Matt:
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17553715%26method=full%26siteid=64736%26headline=exclusive%2d%2dsuspect%2d%2di%2dll%2dkill%2dthem%2dall-name_page.html
The woman, a convert to Islam who asked to be identified only as Rachel, said: “The Muslim community here is close-knit and everyone knows one another.
I bet the close-knit community also knew the things she knew…and didn’t inform the Police either.
Some weird stuff hosted on Ahmadinejad’s web site!
http://www.ahmadinejad.ir/note/841203.html
http://www.ahmadinejad.ir/note/841125-1.html
(note the date: 1384/11/25)
http://www.ahmadinejad.ir/note/841125-2.html
BioDegradable,
I never said Ehud Olmert didn’t “look like a jew”, I said he didn’t look like he was of semitic extraction, please at least read properly before reverting to your “anti-semite” crutch.
You are welcome to your islamophobic and fascist views. As for your claim that being freinds with jewish people does nothing to prove that I don’t apparntley think they are racially inferior, that’s an opinion you’re free to hold however stupid it sounds.
Friends with any islamic people Biodegradeable ? You probably spit at them on the street I expect. Barbarians after all
Re Ahmadinejad’s web site – DON’T GO THERE!
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22093_Ahmadinejads_Blog_is_Dangerous&only
Ahmadinejad’s Blog is Dangerous
A lot of readers emailed about a new Iranian web site that purports to be Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s blog, and a lot of other blogs have linked to it.
But before you click through to the site (from somewhere else, I won’t post the link here), make sure your virus prevention software is up to date—because it may try to exploit a weakness in Internet Explorer to install a “back door” in your computer: Pres. Ahmadinejad trying to infect Israelis with web viruses?
http://olehgirl.blogspot.com/2006/08/pres-ahmadinejad-trying-to-infect.html
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Bio
REAL NAZI ALERT
Iran President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: “Israel must be wiped off the map.”
Syrian Deputy Minister of Religious Endowment, Muhammad Abd l-Sattar: “Jews are the Descendants of Apes and Pigs.”
And these are the moderate Muslims.
Wake up Infidels of the world!
test – somebody has asked you asked you a question here:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/115536964108376367/#302600
somebody has asked you asked you a question
actually, they only asked it once :-/
Jack Bauer,
Speaking as a descendent of apes and pigs I must say I’m shocked, really shocked. I feel I must do all I can to make friends with these people…
REAL NAZI ALERT
Iran President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: “Israel must be wiped off the map.”
Syrian Deputy Minister of Religious Endowment, Muhammad Abd l-Sattar: “Jews are the Descendants of Apes and Pigs.”
“I don’t support the basis on which the state of israel is founded” : test
Hey Bio…
Well you know the old expression..
Exterminate me once, shame on YOU!
Exterminate me twice, shame on ME!
Jack Bauer
To quote the great Kinky Friedman: “They sure don’t make Jews like Jesus anymore!”
“They ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore
we don’t turn the other cheek like we done before
you can hear them honkys holler when I knock them to the floor
OHHHHHHHHH they ain’t makin’ Jews like Jesus anymore!”
http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/k/kinky+friedman/they+aint+makin+jews+like+jesus+anymore_20079424.html
Bio —
I did like the kinkster in his Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jew Boys era.
He’s a bit too liberal for me these days. Funny dude though.
Jack, I’d like to see him actually become governor of Texas – you have to love his slogans – “how hard can it be?”
😉
PM
On the programme Eddie Mair has a go at Ruth Kelly with “Do you approve of profiling” type questions. I then wait for him to ask some tough questions to a representative of the muslim community. But there aren’t any. So yet again, the BBC reinforces the idea that in response to Islamist terrorism, the muslims are the victims and the rest of us are the villains. Muslims aren’t the only ones who get angry, you know.
Eddie then moves on to the Lebanon and it’s Lack Of Context time again.
BBC reporter goes to South Beirut, and it’s all devastation, nothing left standing. No explanation why. Hezbollah? Who are they?
What I did not like about young Miss Kelly was the acceptance of Dhimmi status on our behalf…………..when you speak of “the Muslim” and the “Non-Muslim” population it is clear that these meetings with Muslim “community leaders” are making rapid progress in the wrong direction.
Then to accuse Protestant and Catholic in Northern Ireland as staffing the terrorists forgot to mention the Atheist and the Socialist-Marxist who provided the IRA leadership with its ideology
they also told kelly thet wanted a few islamic laws passing.
“Not all jews are OFF semitic extraction
I think that anyone PRACTICISING the Jewish faith is an inferior human being.
I DON’E agree with the way that Israel prosecutes “anti-terrorist” OPERAIONS
The MEREIST hint of critiscm
As for your claim that being FREINDS with jewish people does
nothing to prove that I don’t APPARNTLEY think they are racially inferior
And all this by people who APPARANTLEY “love freedom”
Test. You don’t work for the BBC do you? Sorry. Views like that
and spelling like that, had to ask.
PROFILING — SCHMOOFILING
Every FBI procedures TV series/movie I ever see PROFILING serial killers (Numb3rs, Criminal Minds, Profiler, The Inside, et al) always starts with the statement…
“Experience tell us he’s a middle-aged WHITE GUY —”
How racist is THAT!!
Well, not really, because apparently it’s true!
Test. You don’t work for the BBC do you? Sorry. Views like that
and spelling like that, had to ask.
simo
Ceasefire, but conflict not resolved
By Payl Reynolds
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4790681.stm
“Payl Reynolds”?
Countdown to stealth edit…
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Test
You don’t like Jews or Israel?
Then get ready to get rid of:
Cell Phones
Computers
Voice Mail
Portable X Rays and Ultrasounds
Anything with Microsoft components in it
Triage in an ER
Any emergency/anti terrorism services
Certain types of irrigation for farming
Yep, Israel contributed to all of that. What has Palestine contributed? Um, blown up children, barely literate populace, suicide bombings, terror, torture, maiming. Yep, that’s pretty much it.
Test
Here are few more facts about the 100th smallest country, with less than 1/1000th of the world’s population.
Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world.
Israel has the world’s second highest per capita of new books.
Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert.
Israel has more museums per capita than any other country.
Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well.
Israel has the highest per capita ratio of scientific publications in the world by a large margin, as well as one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed.
In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of startup companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of startup companies than any other country in the world, except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech).
Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per capita.
Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 is over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.
With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world (apart from the Silicon Valley).
For more, for much more, go to
http://newsoftheday.com/
Nice one, biodegradable. Maybe test can do the edit.
Further down in that article…
“The biggest losers were obviously the civilians.”
As in any war involving the “lions” of Islam.
Message for TEST
Hi there.
I get the impression you just wish to flame people.This however is the Wrong board.
Here is the Yahoo hate board.
I’m sure that you will feel more at home there;
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=l&board=37138459&tid=apisraelpalestinians&sid=37138459&mid=9999999
Hitler has a blog:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4790005.stm
BBC fawn over it.
The Castro love-in at the BBC goes into overdrive with this revolting quiz:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4791355.stm
Strangely, there wasn’t a single question like “how many political opponents has Castro had killed?”. Still, Communist murderous despots are held to an entirely different standard to right-wing murderous despots.
I bet the BBC had their “Fidel: Your Tributes” page ready and waiting..
My father just heard Eddie Mair on Radio 4 describing the kidnapping of 2 Israelis as “the pretext” for war as if it was now accepted fact that Israel had been planning this war in advance.
Rob
That would be Iranian President Mahmoud Adolfmadinejad?
Funny is’nt it.
The racist bigot “Test”…….hates Israel, Hates Bush, Hates Jews, Hates the west………
But he loves the BBC???
What does that tell you about the BBC other than it is doomed, and backed by Hitler-like racists…….lolol.
As I was saying, the BBC are the New Nazis….Racist Jew Haters….
As if we did’nt already know. lol.
Thank God Uncle Sam is on our side, and the Racist Bigots only have the feeble and dying BBC to run to…
Islam will lose …..the West will win…..I think the BBC is going to go down with Islam…..
Looking forward to it… 🙂 on both counts….
Uncle Sam is too strong for the luvvies and drips that work for the BBC, a third rate PBS TV broadcaster……
I look forward to watching the death of the BBC….slowly, as it is revealed to the world for whAt it is….
Rob – Beware!
Ahmadinejad’s Blog is Dangerous
The BBC and a quest for the truth?
A BBC blogg ;
Are we safe yet?
James Landale
14 Aug 06, 05:40 PM
So, the intelligence services have judged that the threat of a terrorist attack is now “severe”, and no longer “critical”, as it has been since last week’s foiled plot to blow up passenger aircraft.
What, you may well ask, does that mean for you and me? Can we come out from behind the duvet and face the world again? Can we fly without a care in the world?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/
Come out from behind the Duvet?
Whatever ever for, according to the BBC there is no such thing as a terrorist? Misguided criminals maybe, but terrorists? Nah those things only exist to scare the children at the local BBC mosque.
Anonymous was me.