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To John Reith and other BBC comrades who regularly visit this blog. If the BBC is not biased then please give me one satisfactory reason why the horrific murder of Kriss Donald is not mentioned on BBC tv/radio and can only be found on their poxy website if you know what you’re looking for? Why is the reporting of Kriss so different to that of Anthony Walker?
The BBC and how it uses smoke and mirrors in which to befuddle a story.
Anybody remember Miss Molly Campbell the young Scottish Girl who was abducted away from her Mother.
Well now Barbara Platt has waded into the argument
Girl at the heart of global family feud
By Barbara Plett
BBC News, Islamabad
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5400860.stm
So what tricks does the woman who cried for a terrorist bring to the table.
Well how about a snap shot of a happy child who doesn’t want to go back to her legal guardian.
“The late afternoon sun is warm, but not hot. Misbah Rana is laughing as she plays a game of badminton with her brother at her home in a leafy suburb of the Pakistani city of Lahore.”
Then try to inform the reader that this child abduction is different.
“At least, it is her home for now. The 12-year-old girl, also known as Molly Campbell in the UK, is at the heart of a custody clash that pits British against Pakistani law and defies conventional scenarios of child abduction.”
Now add a dash of misinformation about the mothers name
“Misbah was living on the isle of Lewis, off with west coast of Scotland, with her mother, Louise Fairley “
Strange how the BBC is so quick to refer to Molly as Misbah, the BBC has no problem referring to her mother by her previous name.
Now promote the image that life in Scotland was unbearable for young Molly;
“”This life is the best life anybody can have,” says Misbah. “There’s nothing you can do there (in the UK) that you can’t do here. Over here you are free, over there we get racial abuse, we get called Pakis and that, and over here, it’s fun, it’s wicked here.”
Now impress the reader that life in Pakistan is miles better;
“There’s a fountain on one side of the spacious yard, an eight-bedroom house, and a pet goat tethered next to a coop of chickens and pigeons. It’s a privileged life by Pakistani standards, and quite”
Add the customary pro Islamic religious angle
”Misbah says she was uncomfortable with the lifestyle of her mother, who has left the Muslim faith. And she adds that it is a relief to be back with the rest of her family.”
Reinforce it with the fathers words;
“Misbah’s father argues that it is easier to raise his daughter as a Muslim in Pakistan, and says he wants her to be where she is happy “
Start to character assassinate the mother;
“Misbah’s mother has custody in Scotland, and has filed a petition to get her back. She says Misbah was taken to Pakistan illegally.
She says does she BBC, funny I thought a ward of court taken to another country against the wishes of her Mother (legal guardian) is an illegal act. Add the customary picture of a smiling girl (not wearing her hijab) to appease the judges and MPs in the UK who will sit in on this case.
And here we have yet another weasel appeasement article by the BBC which promotes yet another crime by a Muslim as acceptable.
(CORRECTION)
The BBC and how it uses smoke and mirrors in which to befuddle a story.
Anybody remember Miss Molly Campbell the young Scottish Girl who was abducted away from her Mother.
Well now Barbara Platt has waded into the argument
Girl at the heart of global family feud
By Barbara Plett
BBC News, Islamabad
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5400860.stm
So what tricks does the woman who cried for a terrorist bring to the table.
Well how about a snap shot of a happy child who doesn’t want to go back to her legal guardian.
“The late afternoon sun is warm, but not hot. Misbah Rana is laughing as she plays a game of badminton with her brother at her home in a leafy suburb of the Pakistani city of Lahore.”
Then try to inform the reader that this child abduction is different.
“At least, it is her home for now. The 12-year-old girl, also known as Molly Campbell in the UK, is at the heart of a custody clash that pits British against Pakistani law and defies conventional scenarios of child abduction.”
Now add a dash of misinformation about the mothers name
“Misbah was living on the isle of Lewis, off with west coast of Scotland, with her mother, Louise Fairley “
Strange how the BBC is so quick to refer to Molly as Misbah, the BBC has no problem referring to her mother by her previous name.
Now promote the image that life in Scotland was unbearable for young Molly;
“”This life is the best life anybody can have,” says Misbah. “There’s nothing you can do there (in the UK) that you can’t do here. Over here you are free, over there we get racial abuse, we get called Pakis and that, and over here, it’s fun, it’s wicked here.”
Now impress the reader that life in Pakistan is miles better;
“There’s a fountain on one side of the spacious yard, an eight-bedroom house, and a pet goat tethered next to a coop of chickens and pigeons. It’s a privileged life by Pakistani standards, and quite”
Add the customary pro Islamic religious angle
”Misbah says she was uncomfortable with the lifestyle of her mother, who has left the Muslim faith. And she adds that it is a relief to be back with the rest of her family.”
Reinforce it with the fathers words;
“Misbah’s father argues that it is easier to raise his daughter as a Muslim in Pakistan, and says he wants her to be where she is happy “
Start to character assassinate the mother;
“Misbah’s mother has custody in Scotland, and has filed a petition to get her back. She says Misbah was taken to Pakistan illegally.
She says does she BBC, funny I thought a ward of court taken to another country against the wishes of her Mother (legal guardian) is an illegal act. Add the customary picture of a smiling girl (not wearing her hijab) to appease the judges and MPs in the UK who will sit in on this case.
And here we have yet another weasel appeasement article by the BBC which promotes yet another crime by a Muslim as acceptable.
Francis | 03.10.06 – 5:50 pm |
The murder of Kriss Donald was covered by BBC TV News and by Radio 4 and Radio 1.
BBC Scotland and BBC Radio Scotland will have covered it as well, I’m sure.
On the BBC News website there areabout 95 stories relating to the murder and subsequent legal proceedings.
They are perfectly easy to find by using keywords Kriss Donald (exact phrase) and specifying only news.bbc.co.uk in the domain search box in an advanced Google search.
You are right that Anthony Walker supplies more coverage – 324 stories. A quick scan of the headlines shows that many of these relate to public ‘events’ – laying of flowers …the opening of a memorial garden – that kind of thing – organized by family, friends and civic leaders.
Perhaps people grieve more publicly in Merseyside than they do in Glasgow.
Mr Reith wrote;
The murder of Kriss Donald was covered by BBC TV News and by Radio 4 and Radio 1.
But did the BBC go to the trouble of shouting out “Racist Hate crime” everytime they reported on this story.
In fact do they even give this terrible story front page coverage?
Sorry John but the trial of 3 of Kriss Donalds murderers started today and I haven’t seen mention of his name on the radio, tv, ceefax and only on the website, as I said, if you know what you’re looking for.
Comments like “Perhaps people grieve more publicly in Merseyside than they do in Glasgow” say more about you and your opinions than you’ll ever have the intelligence to realise.
If the murder of Kriss Donald – whose gruesome details would ordinarily make any journalist think he had died and gone to hack heaven – was covered by the BBC in any depth, I certainly cannot remember it. I never was aware of it at all until I found it mentioned in an anti-jihad website. As compared with Anthony Walker or Stephen Lawrence, or even Damilola Taylor, it did not register.
The BBC are filth…..lined up with the Nazis, and Musslims to hate Jews and Americans….
Saddly for the muppets at the BBC, they have picked the wrong side, and in the clash of cultures which is going to turn into a world war…America, Russian, and Europe will line up against Musslim Racism and Aggression…….and as such, the BBC will go down with Islam….
Just laugh at the BBC now….they are lost, hopeles, and full of very confused morons……lol.
Frank Garnder “I’m a Muslim”……hahahahaha…what a sad desperate sign of the BBCs truth…..they kiss Islams ass, even whenm Islams is pumping bullets and bombs into them….
Such moronic actions can only lead to the death of the fascist BBC…….
Good riddence….who would have thought that the BBC and it;s supporters would end up being the New Nazis of the 21st centuary..but there you go…the BBC and their supporters hate Jews, Americans and the West in general,……saddly for the, the West is powerful and the Beeb is just a PBS broadcaster….
In a clash between Uncle Sams Military, and the BBC and their suicidal friends, my money is on uncle sam coming out on top……..lolol
🙂
What I really detest is the idea that the BBC are justifying a crime – it is imaterial who the girl wants to stay with – the girl was abducted, taking away illegally from her legal guardian. The BBC have no right to take the side of anyone who has broken the law. The girl is too young to make up her mind. It may be true that she is happy where she is – but the point is that she has been abducted from her legal guardian which is a crime. The BBC cannot and should not be pampering to abductors. Can you imagine if the child had been taken to the US – do you think the BBC would have the same line – even if the girl was happier there. I don’t think so.
What is more, anyone who has ever been involved in a custody battle knows that children are fabulously easy to manipulate. The same 12-year-old will tell the same judge horror stories about her mother when she is with her father, and vice versa. Any lawyer, social worker or judge involved with custody battles would have nixed Barbara Plett’s crass report on the grounds that the child was in no position to be fair.
Well BBC whats the difference between a father illegal abducting a child and taken her to Pakisatn than this.
“Nine months for abducting daughter”
ttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3210485.stm
or this?
“Court orders father to return boy”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2471515.stm
John Reith]
I understand you work for the BBC. Is there any chance of a small proportion of its £3 billion annual protection money (no ‘contribution from me) and reporting from those riots in faraway Brussels?
http://houseofdumb.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_houseofdumb_archive.html#115982230688299392
Take the case of the incredible disappearing suspects. I think it’s pretty much a given these days that when a serious crime is reported, but no details of the assailant are given, it’s unlikely he’ll be qualified for membership of the BNP, if you get my drift. And so it goes – if the MSM even gets round to actually reporting in the first place: we’re now into week two of the MSM’s news blackout on the Brussels riots.
Mr Reith, you must be on a different BBC site than I because when I do a search on ‘Kriss Donald’ I get 48 articles. ‘Anthony Walker’ brings back 96 PAGES, i.e. 960 articles. Obviously Anthony Walker is a common name, so I tried ‘Anthony Walker Liverpool’ and even that brings back about 290 articles. A massive difference, do you agree?
Why did you only mention in your comment the number of hits on the BBC site for Kriss Donald? Do you expect people just to take your word for it? You’re completely missing the point, this site is for people who do think for themselves and are not told how to think by the ‘Ministry of Information’ aka the BBC.
Did anyone hear Peter Allen describing global warming as a self-evident truth, no more need for any tiresome right-wing facts, on 5Live today?
Actually, Pete, it’s far from scientifically accepted.
http://epw.senate.gov/pressitem.cfm?party=rep&id=264308
But why let facts get in the way of accepted left-wing dogma?
Nothing about Yom Kippur on the BBC week in pictures
The Beeb edited the original article at 5.40pm today.
Where are now Orla, Fergal and other bias rottwilers? Having a well-deserved break? It’s not the first time that they put their shock troops in purdah to recuperate and be ready for the next assault if and when ordered by those who unleash them.
Should N Korea test nuclear weapons?
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&threadID=4077&start=90&tstart=0&edition=1&ttl=20061003204650&#paginator
“It is a sovereign nation. let it do what it likes. I am more afraid of the U.S and Britain.”
John Birt, London
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When I read this I felt absolutley sick. How can these people be so stupid?
simo –
Were you taking the piss, or did Peter Allen mention ‘right wing facts’ on 5 Dead?
Jon –
Yep, I also noticed that the BBC a torrent of dhimmi propaganda during any islamic festival, hasn’t uttered a peep about Yom Kippur. I wonder: is it because it is such an important day only to Jews, or is it the Mother of all Spankings handed out by Israel in response to Arab agression in 1973?
Pounce! What misinformed biased BBC reporting from Miss B. Plett:
“The 12-year-old girl, also known as Molly Campbell in the UK, is at the heart of a custody clash that pits British against Pakistani law..”
Excuse me, is there such a thing as “British law”? I thought Scotland has its very own legal system (let’s forget its own Parliament for a moment!)
The phrase “leafy suburb of the Pakistani city of Lahore” is very amusing. Presumably this is a long way away from the less “leafy suburbs” of Pakistan where child slavery is still practised and young children are chained to carpet making machines?
Pete_London, thanks for that link on news of rioting in Brussels
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/09/when-is-riot-not-riot.html
It is instances such as this in the MSM (Main-Stream Media) that I find so outrageous. I guess at a push, a case will be made by those in charge of security & policing, that like the pre-emptive banning of the Mozart opera in Berlin, reaction to Pope, etc., that they are all so terribly anxious about an Islamic forest fire, and are highly neurotic about communicating what they see as glowing ambers over the airwaves. What I find outrageous is how the BBC go one step further such that they openly distort such news. A good recent example was the treatment of a double murder in London(Peckham) that involved Operation Trident, and yet the “ethnicity” of this murder, or the fact that the Met deals exclusively with “Black on Black” crime wasn’t mentioned. Again, some benevolent type in a BBC editing studio might think that by omitting the subject of “race” as in clearly “ignoring” Muslim rioting in Brussels, they are being socially responsible (to whom?) and helping to keep things under control. They are not, they are appeasing the crocodile, as Churchill put it.
Boris Johnson is an interesting person in several ways. He is in trouble again for being off-message:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5404438.stm
I was interested in this bit:
“Mr Johnson also railed against the “nanny state” at Monday’s fringe event, branding safety seats for children in cars “utterly demented”.
The Tory higher education spokesman was recently criticised by the RAC for allowing his two sons to share the front seat of the open-topped sports car he was driving.
“When I was growing up we all bounced around like peas in a rattle – did it do us any harm?
“One of the great joys of being a parent is when you throw away the booster.
“Now this law, imposed on us without public consultation, is forcing police to measure our children.””
I know from reading the Daily Telegraph that Boris is talking about a new EU law whereby midget children under the age of 12 years old have to have a special children’s seat.
If I was unfamiliar with this law – which could have been summarised by the reporter in half a sentence – I would assume, based on this BBC news report, that Boris Johnson is against all forms of child seats, and I would not know which law has been “imposed on us without public consultation”, and whether or not this is true.
The lack of context, which is surely deliberate, gives an uninformed reader a lesser opinion of Boris Johnson. And that is wrong.
Interesting own goal on newsnight tonight (Tuesday).
Laura Kuenssborg reported on how “posh” the Conservatives are. One of the prime indicators she used was the number of candidates who were Oxbridge graduates, which was about 50% making the Conservatives “posher” than zanulab and libdims.
I think that given that advancement should be on merit and that in general the best of the bunch go to Oxbridge, 50% is not a bad thing although it was presented as such.
Turning to the daily politics website I see that Jenny and Giles (50% of the team) are Oxbridge graduates graduates. Nuff said.
Furthermore, Andrew and Laura are also graduates (not of Oxbridge) so the team is 100% graduates.
If MPs are supposed to look like those they represent (otherwise they cannot do the job properly) should not the same argument apply to those such as the daily politics team who are there to report on the MPs?
I suggest they sack one of their graduates to be replaced with a black bus driver.
Any suggestions on who should be allowed to make the sacrifice and set an example to the MPs?
Pete_London
I was paraphrasing. He all but said it.
I will find the relevant tape from 5Live and post the link in the am. I think you’ll be amused.
If you want to look yourself, I think between about 5 and 5.30.
“Boris in storm over Jamie remarks”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5404438.stm
So Jamie Oliver is another prophet.
For Gods sake BBC is this the only thing you can report on – get a life.
boris gives his opinion.
instant media swarm.
says a lot about the political debate in this country. it “X Factor” politics.
no wonder Cameron refuses to discuss his tax plans – with such an idiotic media, i’d do the same.
“Boris Johnson denies criticising Jamie Oliver’s school dinners campaign as he finds himself in a fresh media storm.”
And thats all it is a “media storm” and this is one World News page of The BBC website.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
Its beyond belief.
Jon wrote:
“Nothing about Yom Kippur on the BBC week in pictures”
The BBC and half a story;
Early in the conflict, Egyptian and Syrian forces retook key positions lost in the 1967 ‘Six Day’ war.
Many Arab states contributed troops and financial support, and the USSR also provided assistance.
But ultimately the Arabs buckled under a sustained Israeli counter-attack strengthened by US airlifts.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/6/newsid_2514000/2514317.stm
The BBC once again tells half a story in which to slate Israel and the US as the Bad guys.
The myth that the American tanks saved the day is one that needs smashing into the ground.
The American airlift to Israel during Yom Kippur started on the 12th Oct 1973. What the BBC doesn’t say is that the Russians started theirs (Yes the Russians rearmed the Syrians (to the tune of a reequipped battle group and Egyptians at the same time) 2 days earlier (on the 10th) and didn’t finish until long after the Americans did.
So how many tanks did the Americans furnish the Israelis with during Yom Kippur?.
50
100
150?
Actually it was 29 tanks and only 4 of those arrived during hostilities the other 25 arrived after the shooting stopped.
Here’s another snippet the BBC leave out. The Americans were refused access to friendly airfields in which to refuel by her allies bar one? (Portugal) who allowed the Azores to be used. The Americans planes then flew down the centre of the med until they reached Israel around 3163 miles as opposed to the Russians 1700 miles to reach Syria.
In total the Americans flew 566 missions in 30 days the Russians flew 935 missions in 40 days.
So who really strengthened who BBC?
As for that American derived sustained Israeli counter attack?
In the Golan heights it was led by Brig Dan Laner who used Sherman tanks (of WW2 vintage) to punch through the Syrian lines and on the way knocked out 97 T55 tanks of the Iraqi 3rd Armed div .
In the south it was a counter attack across the canal devised by a certain Mr Sharon (The IDF had planned of the possibility of a successful Egyptian attack and had actually built a bridge and hidden it long before 1973 in which to take the war home to Cairo.)
The American airlift did help I don’t dispute that at all. But the north was won by sheer hard guts and the south by ingenuity and a bit of luck.
Oh yes the aim of the war was limited gains and then press for a peace accord. The Egyptians did really well and held the IDF off with their armour and infantry protected by the SAM umbrella based on the other side of the canal. The Syrians who launched over 1400 tanks, 40000 men and 115 artillery batteries guns against 177 Centurion tanks ,200 men and 11 artillery batteries still couldn’t defeat the IDF in place. And requested the Egyptians advance from their well entrenched positions to help take the pressure of them. It was this which lead to the successful Israeli counter attack (safe from that SAM umbrella) and not the American airlift.
The BBC telling half a story yet again.
Oh yes BBC the reason the Arabs got a kicking? 6 Ps.
Poor Preparation and Planning leads to Piss Poor Performance.
Pete_London.
Here’s the direct quote from Peter Allen, who is in Mumbai at the moment, spending your money on a Global Warming Special Report.
“I’m beginning to wonder whether we should just accept that global climate change is going to happen and we should just try to deal with the consequences rather than try to stop it.”
Clearly we are dealing with a self-evident proposition here. Except that we aren’t. Global climate change is a hugely contentious issue in the scientific community. Not according to the BBC. Pete interviewed Vivik from Greenpeace in a cafe in Mumbai across from a sea that pollution has apparently turned into a sinkhole, throwing him hardball questions like:
“When you look around the world today are you depressed by the prospects?”
I’ve shorthanded Vivik’s reply: A lot more can be done. Asian Development Bank AGM in Hyderabad. Big finances. Follow the money. Huge infrastructre projects, for example, 8 new power stations to be built. Big emitters of C02 that will come back to Mumbai as floods.
(Freemarket bad. Capitalism bad)
Pete neatly segued off with
“And that’s the depressing story, Jane. Across India, huge problems of poverty. Huge problems of pollution. But little inclination to tackle the problem of global warming.”
Allen also said: The world’s most pressing problem is global climate change.
And Vivik once again.
“As Citizens of the world, we need to tell our ministers to either fix it, or get out of the way.”
Seems the BBC’s alleged impartiality
becomes heavily partisan partiality when the issue has been accorded “Self Evident Truth” status in White City.
It bears repeating that global climate change is a contentious issue in the scientific world. Not if you according to the Rev Peter Allen it ain’t.
The link is here, Tuesday Drive, and the top quote is about halfway through.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/drive.shtml
The anonymous writer earlier on states that
“America, Russian, and Europe will line up against Musslim Racism and Aggression…….”
I wish I could agree, but as we’ve seen in the past the Russians will go to any lengths to rival America, even by supporting Islamic fascism if the poo ever hit the fan. By the Russians I mean the Russian govt. & Comrade Putin, not the average Russian on the street – he would certainly oppose being run by muslims (again) but he’s never had a say in anything and he never will.
As for Europe’s opposition to ‘Muslim aggression’ – I’m not convinced its terribly opposed at all. Its tactics are to surrender and placate, not to defend. That only leaves America once again to step in and save us all. And once they’ve done it will they get any thanks from those miserable Europeans?
Will they f—
Fabio, do yourself a favour and read what interlocuters have written. I wrote:
“I suggested that one way by which the Catholic Church could reduce the frequency of such problems is to open their intake to the priesthood by eliminating the requirement for celibacy. BTW – is that in Scripture? It isn’t, so is theologically unjustifiable.”
and you replied:
“OK, you are not a coward. You still are, at the very least, an idiot. To begin with, your foolish statement about “is an all-male priesthood in the Bible? If not, it is theologically unsound” is a wonderful mixture of Protestantism and ignorance.”
As is evident to anyone who bothers to read, I stated ‘celibacy’ as being the issue. Please read what is posted because it makes you look like the idiot which you consider me to be.
BTW, please calm down and stop resorting to insults. I have noticed that it is not normally the first resort of contributors to this site.
You are really obsessed with the supposed paedophilia problem within the Church. I would remind you that this blog is about the BBC; that the debate was about the BBC making wholly false and fraudulent charges against the Pope, probably in the knowledge that they were fraudulent; and you, by insisting on this shit about paedophilia (and refusing to answer a single one of my retorts), have effectively been collaborating with the BBC. Congratulations. If you do not want to be insulted, do not deserve it. And this is the last I will waste on your Catholic-hating red herrings.
gordon-bennett | 03.10.06 – 11:46 pm | #
I missed Newsnight, yes they are complete hypocrites!. I did listen to BBCs Sarah Montague’s interview with DC on the Today programme yesterday morning. Round about the time of Prescott’s physical assault on a demonstrator, our Sarah admitted live on the Today programme (to a Bishop, I think?) that when she was at university she too threw eggs. I don’t know which university she attended but I have always had a sneaking suspicion that it must have been a Tory MP. Such behaviour was always conducted by Moonbats.
Listening to her bellicose interviews with Conservative spokespersons, it amazes me that this “genetic bias”, if I may call it that, has never been questioned, or, indeed, that politicians politely remind her of this Prescottian trait. Listening to her cantankerous voice on the Today programme and those insufferable prissy tones I can still see her attempting to lob eggs towards people that she dislikes. Indeed, the BBC has institutionalised her abrasive discourse..
When she does “Hard Talk” on BBC News 24, it is always referred to as “Hard(Egg) Talk” in our house!
john – of course it’s been questioned, just that nothing ever changes.
On another subject, anyone notice that the BBC have been heavily pushing their Jane Horrocks Purple Party tv prog for the last week?
Is it any coincidence that it screens on the same day as DC’s leader speech?
Brussels riots – of course, there’s no space on the BBC Europe page (let alone more prominent).
They have to feature the “Iron ore deal bad for Liberia”, the “Ahern apologises for loans affair”, the “Tycoon plans Paris arts complex” and “UK Tory sees Russian threat”.
Far more newsworthy, natch.
PS and don’t forget
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/europe/2005/muslims_in_europe/default.stm
Pounce, it’s an interesting if little known tidbit that most middle-eastern armies are spectacularly useless at thinking on their feet. Know why? They lack that unusual rank of “gobby” NCO to lick em in to shape. 😉
Interesting failure by beeb in their “The Teaboy of Gaza” programme.
Although the spoken narrative continually blames Israel and the West for the problems within Gaza it was clear from the pictures and the rest of the commentary that the pali problems are completely self-inflicted.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/this_world/default.stm
Lots of different militias each guarding their own casualties in the hospital. Ocassional inter militia firefights with all guns blazing in the hospital forecourt.
Man asks kids what they think of Jews. “Asses, cowards, etc.”
Kids vowing to become martyrs.
Man says he is prepared to see himself and his family (7 kids) starve until the jews give the palis back their “rights”.
It’s a lot worse than “Cathy Come Home”.
Simo –
Many thanks for that. I spoke once to a BBC reporter who contacted me following a very personal complaint. In the course of the chat I asked him to refer me to just one, concrete, unarguable piece of evidence showing that man-made global warming was even a probability (I know that ‘science’ usually can’t present ‘case proven evidence’ and we often have to go on probabilities). He couldn’t. I can refer him to plenty of evidence against the earth-firsters’ proposition, but he couldn’t refer me to a single piece supporting his assertion that we are warming the world. It’s all political anyway. You’ll notice that ‘capitalism’ is often the supposed culprit. These earth-firsters are tend to be either dreary bloody commies under the surface, with a thesis about as robust as socialism, or researchers whose funding and positions rely on reinforcing the theory.
Ha!
D Burbage, the online guide to dark age idiocy to which you linked – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/europe/2005/muslims_in_europe/default.stm – contain a Quick Guide: Islam
The origins and beliefs of a major religion in the centre of the page.
It’s just a very short guide, read in a minute or so. On the final page we have: Muslims respect Christians and Jews as they consider them members of the family of Abraham, one of the prophets.
They really do think that we are idiots.
I may have misheard as I was only just coming round at the time but did Al-Beeb describe Boris’s suggestion that we did not want Sharia Law in the UK as a gaffe?
Government ‘split’ on licence fee
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5405232.stm
“A financial settlement to cover the whole 10-year period of the BBC’s new charter is highly unlikely.
Ministers believe the outlook for the industry is too uncertain to guarantee a whole decade of funding, so the new licence settlement is expected to cover between three and five years.”
No charter for 10 years? Now, that would be progress.
pounce | 04.10.06 – 12:32 am |
“The BBC once again tells half a story in which to slate Israel and the US as the Bad guys.”
I’m sorry, but how on Earth can that article be seen as “slating Israel and the US as the bad guys”? I can’t help but think that your intellectual honesty is eroding by the day.
“The myth that the American tanks saved the day is one that needs smashing into the ground.”
Did the article say that the airlifts saved the day? I can only see 4 words about it all, i.e. “strengthened by US airlifts”
“The BBC telling half a story yet again.”
For every article, there is more depth that could have been covered. So surely, every single article ever written can is subject to your usual “half a story” fisking?
“Ministers believe the outlook for the industry is too uncertain to guarantee a whole decade of funding”
translation
“Labour demands more support from Al-BBC”
Pete-London
“I asked him to refer me to just one, concrete, unarguable piece of evidence showing that man-made global warming was even a probability ..”
Try this:
Seven million temperature readings and 2 million salinity readings collected by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration created the best “fingerprint” of man-made global warming ever, Scripps’ Barnett said.
From 1969 to 1999, surface ocean temperatures rose about two-thirds of a degree Fahrenheit, while temperatures hundreds of feet deeper hadn’t warmed as much. The readings are nearly exactly what computer models of global warming say they should be, Barnett said.
If the global warming were the result of natural variability or increased sun activity, the temperature and salinity changes would be very different from the ones seen in the NOAA data, Barnett said.
“The evidence really is overwhelming,” Barnett said.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0218-04.htm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbtoday/F2767107?thread=3536597
Alistair Burnett says the ‘so-called’ term which they use in reference to the “War on Terror” is done because the term “War on Terror” is disputed, and therefore they have to adopt a neutral approach.
Unfortunate then, that the term ‘so-called’ is described as something you put before a noun which shows you do not believe it to be correct
http://www.freesearch.co.uk/dictionary/so-called
I thought the Bush hadministration had already dropped the ‘war on terror’ phrase, preferring ‘global struggle against violent extremism.’
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/27/opinion/smith/main712317.shtml
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/07/26/news/terror.php
http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/wm805.cfm
Or should that be ‘so-called sglobal struggle against violent extremism’?
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I did indeed read your link to the Common Dreams Newscentre – “Breaking News and Views for the Progressive Community”(!!) This backs up my point and one which is often made by sceptics: don’t tell us that such and such is ‘proof’ of man-made global warming, tell how is it proof. You cannot just present data and declare “ta-daaaaaa, here’s the proof”. This is, frankly, rubbish. I had a look at the Cripps Institute of Oceanographt website. And guess what? Institutionally it believes in man-made global warming:
http://aquarium.ucsd.edu/climate_change.cfm
Human activities are changing the composition of the atmosphere and causing Earth’s temperature to rise at an unprecedented rate.
Well there’s a good, scientific, sceptical attitude! And who’s going to put their head on the block and go against what their paymasters say? I come back to my point: how on earth is this proof of man-made global warming? You may accept the word of the man in the magic hat, I’m not so credulous.
Read the rest of that article. I have rarely read anything so stuffed full of qualified statements: “most compelling evidence yet” (whatever that means) “hint at”, “point to”,
“could cause”, “If”, “could”, “if”,
“Early calculations”, “If”, “‘just possible'” but not necessarily likely.” What a load of qualified, meaningless, rubbish. The article even cites “The Day After Tomorrow”!!
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By the way, here’s what your favourite Marine Physicist, Tim Barnett of the Scripps Institute of Oceanography said regarding computer modelling, in February 2005:
From 1969 to 1999, surface ocean temperatures rose about two-thirds of a degree Fahrenheit, while temperatures hundreds of feet deeper hadn’t warmed as much. The readings are nearly exactly what computer models of global warming say they should be, Barnett said.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0218-04.htm
And here’s what 60-odd ‘accredited experts in climate and related scientific disciplines’ said to the Canadian Prime Minister earlier this year:
Observational evidence does not support today’s computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future.
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/001682.html
Go read that letter.
And you now know not to trust Tim Barnett or the Scripps Institute of Oceanography.
Pete_London,
1/ The computational methods used to model the atmosphere will NEVER result in accurate simulations. This is due to recursive feedback error increasing at exponential rates. Chaotic (linear unpredictable) behavior is created from something as simple as 3 orbiting bodies. These climate models rely on thousands of co-interacting variables.
2/ Climate models are not science as Whole Earth Experiments are imposible due to the fact they are non-repeatable.
3/ Just look at the advocates of the original sin of anthropomorphic climate change, scratch them and you tend to find red underneath.