On the other hand …

This blog and its commenters has had hard words for the BBC’s Justin Webb many times. Sixteen times, a quick search tells me, so I won’t bother linking. But our hard words are as nothing compared to the response he got from Democrats for this post saying that the Foley scandal might end up being a trap for the Democrats.

Some of these people seriously need a cup of tea and a nice lie down.

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22 Responses to On the other hand …

  1. DangerousBadger says:

    Seems like Webb is doing something that all timewasters do in in the ‘have their cake and eat it’ profession.

    No doubt whatever the result of the election, he’ll be able to hand his sheet in to the equal offence manager at the BBC and show he’s acheived impartiality, even if it was by just ramping up his provocations of Dems at the last minute.

    Oh BTW he has that opinions of Americans that he smugly admits to promulgating.

    Where does he eat over there?

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  2. DangerousBadger says:

    Sorry I meant “he has that opinion”

    “America is often portrayed as an ignorant, unsophisticated sort of place, full of bible bashers and ruled to a dangerous extent by trashy television, superstition and religious bigotry, a place lacking in respect for evidence based knowledge. I know that is how it is portrayed because I have done my bit to paint that picture…” BBC’s Washington correspondent Justin Webb

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  3. ed says:

    Heh. I read that piece and I thought he was stating the obvious re: the Dems. Meanwhile, he was rather overstating the incompetence of their opposition, and understating their own role in stirring scandal up. It just shows though that BBC bias rides a wave of activism on the left which the right just can’t match, for good philosophical reasons. When they appear to buck the bias, the wave comes down on their shoulders as a warning.

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  4. disillusioned_german says:

    Ed, that’s why I’m actually quite pleased that there are some “right-wing flame-throwers” like Ann Coulter. Why leave the spewing of hateful messages exclusively to the left?

    Fact is: the extreme left in the US is as bad as anything we’ve got in Europe. There are some very mentally unstable people out there.

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  5. Mick says:

    disillusioned german:
    The left in America appears to have a momentum all of it’s own. It is pretty much led by the ACLU, an organisation that initially wanted a Communist government in America when it was first formed many years ago. It, and it’s offspring of leftwing hate spewing websites are ably funded by a gentlemen known as George Soros, a multi-billionaire. Hungarian by birth if I remember correctly. I seem to remember him as a huge influence in the collapse of the GB pound during the early 90’s when interest rates hit record levels. He now gets his kicks by promoting and funding US left leaning organisations that support all sorts of sick causes, such as sex with children. How do I know? I’m a Brit living in the US at the moment. Due to return home in December (so I get first hand news reports and views of this crazy organisation that claims it’s promoting civil liberties). They really are a scary orgnaisation because of the support that they appear to have here with, as you describe, some “mentally unstable people” .

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  6. A lurker says:

    Mick

    Soros funding organisations that “support sex with children” – any chance of a link or reference. Or is it just right wing hyperbole?

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  7. disillusioned_german says:

    Mick… I watch Fox News – it’s my main news source (apart from the web).

    I know that Soros has got his fingers in the ACLU who have fought legal battles for NAMBLA.

    I’ve got a lot of friends in the US and therefore like to keep in touch with what’s happening there.

    To “A lurker”… as I won’t be able to find left-wing websites that focus on the connection between the ACLU, NAMBLA and Soros I’ll not even bother to search. It’s just us right-wingers again.

    Just google ACLU+Nambla+Soros – not that you’d bother, right…?

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  8. disillusioned_german says:

    Mick: Have you seen the razzamatazz that went on when some of the Minutemen appeared at Columbia University?

    And these children of wealthy socialists have the nerve to call a black Minuteman racist… that’s their mind-set. They are dangerous and very, very instable.

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  9. Mick says:

    Yeah. A disgraceful episode It happens all the time. The Universities are full of these hypocrites who use their right to freedom of speech to try to silence silence others. A few months ago a member of the US government was invited to speak at a university in Connecticut. Can’t remember which one but when he started speaking the students stood up and turned their backs holding up placards protesting and shouting against without even letting him say a word. There’s a professor who is one of the 9/11 conspiracy theorists allowed to continue preaching his own point of view despite warnings at the University of Wisconsin and he’s made his own book one of the curriuclum requirements. It’s full of crazy people is this country. The USA is heading for a bleak future. They will shortly have a lame duck President when the Republicans lose the elections in a few weeks to the Democrats. That will allow the secular progressives i.e. the ACLU to take power. I have yet to hear a democratic explanation as to what they will do to prevent another large scale terrorist attack on the USA. I fear the worst is yet to come. The terrorists will have a field day when Bush has no power. I’ll be out of here by then. Thank God.

    To the Lurker: I’ll find it and put it on here.

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  10. Mick says:

    To A lurker:

    When organisations that Soros supports then support the decision of a judge to sentence a serial child rapist to 40 days in prison, or whatever ridiculous sentence it was, then I would contend that he and the organisation are supporitng sex with children. That was in Vermont earlier this year.

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  11. disillusioned_german says:

    Mick: You’re probably referring to Attorney General Al Gonzales. I’ve watched that (in depth on Fox) as well. I don’t see why anyone can say Fox News is biased because they actually let both parties involved have their say.

    Bush is the master of his own downfall. Had he put “securing the borders” on top of his agenda he wouldn’t be in the mess he’s in. You’ve got to appeal to the masses if you want to win elections and Bush hasn’t done that. I sincerely hope the Republicans can still turn it around. I will be running a “Tancredo for President” campaign on my website in 2008. Can you believe Cindy Sheehan was actually in the race for the Nobel Peace Prize???

    P.S.: I’ voluntarily apply for a visa if that helped to stop terrorists from entering the US (stuff the EU bureaucrats!)

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  12. Mick says:

    disillusioned_german:
    Talking about securing borders read this unbelievable state of affairs.
    It’s just crazy
    http://ogresview.mu.nu/archives/193367.php

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  13. disillusioned_german says:

    I’ve seen several reports on these two border agents on Fox as well, Mick. What really was unbelievable was the guy with the Indian name (a legal immigrant) who is running for Congress in Pennsylvania ride on an elephant while a band was playing La Cucharacha. Did you see this? O’Reilly had him on last week.

    P.S.: I guess we’re a little off-topic here and I don’t want to p*** Natalie off.

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  14. disillusioned_german says:

    Here’s a link anyway: http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=8829

    Sorry, Natalie!

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  15. Pete_London says:

    Mick

    I seem to remember him as a huge influence in the collapse of the GB pound during the early 90’s when interest rates hit record levels.

    What I remember is Soros selling so much sterling that the Pound plummeted. The Treasury tried to prop it up by buying it all up, screwed up, had to put interests rates up, millions were left with negative equity, the economy was blown away, and Soros filled his boots with a vast profit.

    What I recal is Soros being the main player in screwing the British economy, forcing poverty and misery on huge numbers of people. What I remember is Soros getting away with it too. Jeez, can you think of a single reason why the left wing press hasn’t pinned it on the left wing Soros?

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  16. Heron says:

    Strangely, Webb is probably right, although he is no idea why he is right. A scandal involving lewd e-mails from a virtual nobody has been totally overplayed by the Democrats, and while it initially (rightly) turned off Republican voters and those concerned with family values, it has now been so cynically overdone that people are just seeing the Democrats as a pathetic bunch of opportunists wallowing in a scandal that is not representative of the Republicans.

    Secondly, the Lancet report on deaths in Iraq was also commissioned by members of the Democrat party, including one who has recently stood for office. The figures are blatantly false, and a skilled operator like Rove will surely manage to link this report to Democrats trying to spin a false death-toll on the eve of an election.

    Meanwhile, Bush (and Rove) are just quietly keeping a low profile while the Democrats hang themselves. Bush and Rove are master electioneers – the Democrats are just desperate.

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  17. John_R says:

    Disillusioned, a little on the ACLU and Nambla here:

    http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2005/06/17/aclu-and-nambla-a-match-made-in-hell/

    Concerning the posting on this report, I’m speechless. I don’t understnad why a publicly funded report about whether or not a publicly funded institution is practicing discrimination is so difficult to get made, well ,public.

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  18. John_R says:

    That should be “understand”.

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  19. Roxana says:

    I must say I am overwhelmingly depressed by the hatred and ignorance shown in the comments. 🙁

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  20. Roxana says:

    A Democratic Senator named George Stubb had sex with a 17 year old male page and propositioned two others. He was censured. Never apologized, career stayed right on track. (this was in 1983)

    Mark Foley, a Republican, writes a few non-sexual but ‘creepy’ emails, resigns in disgrace but that’s not good enough. The whole Republican leadership must go too.

    Hypocrisy seems to mild a word.

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  21. Natalie Solent says:

    Roxana,

    Although Foley’s emails which started this were not explicitly sexual, his instant messages were. Still, as you say, what hypocrisy. You have mistaken the name of the Democrat you mention (it was Gerry Studds) but not the circumstances. He died just the other day and had fulsome tributes paid to him from Senator Kennedy among others.

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  22. Roxana says:

    Well at least I got the initials right 😉 How stupid do democrats think we all are? Very apparently.

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