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The BBC and half a story;
Palestinian battles to study in Israel
Sawsan Salameh should have spent this week in the laboratories at Hebrew university starting to work on her PhD in theoretical chemistry. But instead the 29-year-old Palestinian from the West Bank has carried on working as a science teacher at a local high school. Despite being given a full scholarship by the Hebrew University to pursue her studies, Ms Salameh has fallen foul of new Israeli army regulations preventing Palestinian students from entering Israel on security grounds.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6087968.stm
Bad Israel banning a poor girl who wishes to improve herself from entering the country. Oh and here is the main crux of that security grounds which the BBC didn’t bother airing in the above;
A dream that needs a permit
Posted Fri, 20 Oct 2006
Sawsan Salameh is one piece of paper away from fulfilling her dream of earning a doctorate in chemistry and becoming a lecturer and role model for Palestinian women.
The piece of paper is a permit that would enable her to cross from her village in the occupied West Bank into Israel to attend the prestigious Hebrew University, a mere half-hour ride away, where she has been offered a full scholarship.
But Israel will not give her the coveted permit because she is unmarried, childless, and under the age of 35 — and such Palestinians fitting the typical profile of a suicide bomber are not allowed to enter the Jewish state except on humanitarian grounds.
http://www.iafrica.com/pls/procs/SEARCH.ARCHIVE?p_content_id=309762&p_site_id=2
Sometimes it helps when you hear the other side of the story.
The BBC and Half a story.
I see Mr. Reith is back on his favourite subject – indicating how wonderful the BBC is and how ungrateful everyone is to be moaning about the small licence fee when they access the BBC anyway.
Here’s his complaint from earlier this month:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/115999441665631361/#310485
And here’s my response:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/115999441665631361/#310546
‘Nuff said on that.
But one comment from Mr. Reith’s earlier post caught my attention:
….there is a constant reiteration of the laughable allegation that BBC staff are sympathetic to Islamist extremism.
Due to lack of time I direct Mr. Reith attention only to a BBC hack called Loyn and his happy report on his excursion among the Taleban and to BBC hacks’ obedience to Hezbollah – demonstrated by them reporting only what Hezbollah allowed them to report during the war.
Now if these are not Islamic terr… er, sorry, extremists, then I don’t know who is.
BBC wants to help the Northerners but only if the License fee is hiked
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/s/225/225819_red_faces_over__bbcs_salford_radio_blunder_.html
Quote from Mark Thompson..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/speeches/stories/thompson_smith.shtml
But from the start, the BBC’s Governors have made it abundantly clear that they would only approve the case for Salford if it could demonstrate robust value for money, and the licence fee settlement made it affordable.
Its a real sacrifice…
http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1925009,00.html
“A small core of BBC executives are “emotionally” opposed to the relocation of key services to Salford, and would be happy if the plan was scuppered altogether, according to a senior source involved in the Manchester plan.”
The five departments that the bbc was planning to relocate are
RADIO 5 LIVE ( the one bbc outlet that actually covers stories outside of London as a matter of course)
CHILDRENS BBC • nothing exciting there for the over 10s
NEW MEDIA – great no need to actually move house then • we can work over the internet from our London office. Just recruit a few techies in the North.
FORMAL LEARING – specific curriculum-related learning objectives. This includes our programming for primary and secondary schools and for pre-school children (bbc schools)
Now, the BBC has framed this whole project as being one that will bestow enormous benefits on our friends in the North in terms of investment etc etc. Of course, the real pressure has come from the fact that millions of license payers in the North are being taxed by the BBC, whilst the BBC holds the region and its people in contempt!
john reith
comparing the bbc to private radio or tv news is ludicrous.
The bbc crowds out private sector investment in these areas. Its like comparing a private companys performance while a huge state sector monolith financed by billions of taxpayers money is in the same market proped up by sham impartiality laws by a tyrannical government.
youe figures mean nothing
what would they be if people weren’t forced to pay for the BBC.
Shelved Muhammad opera to return
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6091624.stm
Very good news that the Germans have ended with the so called policy of Beschwichtigung (appeasement) towards the fanatical Islamists and that the King of Crete will, once again, be handling the severed head of Mohammed soon at the Deutsche Oper in Berlin. I wonder what the response will be now?
Once again the BBC obfuscates cause and effect in its reporting, “Protests around the world erupted last year after”, the response to the Mohammed cartoons was very unlike a natural event, and certainly not like a volcano, it didn’t “erupt” it was stage managed from the very start.
John wrote;
Once again the BBC obfuscates cause and effect in its reporting,
Right at the bottom of that report the BBC says this;
Protests around the world erupted last year after the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published cartoons which depicted Muhammad as a terrorist.
On that note here are those cartoons please be so kind as to pick out the terrorist ones.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Jyllands-Posten-pg3-article-in-Sept-30-2005-edition-of-KulturWeekend-entitled-Muhammeds-ansigt.png
I mean one picture has a bomb in a mans Turban. Does that make them all depictions of terrorists? It appears that the BBC is using a little artistic flair when it paints a picture of Islamic victimhood.
The BBC and half a story
No charges for Forest Gate victim
The Crown Prosecution Service has advised police not to bring child pornography charges against a man shot during a terror raid in Forest Gate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6092624.stm
Nothing from the BBC about how Muslims see nothing wrong with kiddy porn. I mean their leader and prophet only married a 6 year old child then consummated that marriage her when she was 9. But instead the BBC makes out this perv is innocent.
It seems South Africans are gettting a little upset with the endemic rape in that country:
Suspected rapists castrated, stoned to death
http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__national/&articleid=287899
That’s a little on the harsh side, I guess, but at least they didn’t blame the women for getting raped and stone them as they would have in Islamic countries.
I wonder how the BBC would report on this story. I think in this instance its sympathy for the rapists would trump its sympathy for the raped.
Reithy:
(a) still waiting for a link to the data you claim gives the Beeb a huge share of the market (notwithstanding the billions they can pour into things that would be impossible for private firms…)
(b) you ignored Ritter’s figures…why?
Soooo did these figures come from your buddy at the Lancet then?
Reithy:
I would hardly call wiki the definitive source of all knowledge since it can be edited by anyone…including BBC hacks who like to claim they are the winners when we are still waiting for the proof.
Data please!
The BBC and half a story;
Police deployed in Paris suburbs
Extra police have been ordered into suburbs in the French capital, Paris, on the first anniversary of two deaths which sparked riots across the country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6093276.stm
So the BBC finally gets round to reporting on rampaging savages in France who while thugs get portrayed as having some sort of legitimate reason for playing the victim card while burning 10,000 cars and 300 buildings in 3 weeks…
” But others have warned that factors which played a key part in the riots – high unemployment, discrimination and youth alienation from mainstream society – remain unchanged.”
Err BBC you leave out that the main reason for heightened tensions in Paris last year prior to the riots was because French Minister Nicolas Sarkozy started cleaning up the Muslim ghettos which had become no go areas for Police and non Muslims alike. He took on the gangs who thought nothing of raping Muslim women for not covering up. He took on the gangs who presumed that they were the law
Written 2 weeks before the riots started;
Radical Muslims in France’s housing estates are waging an undeclared “intifada” against the police, with violent clashes injuring an average of 14 officers each day. As the interior ministry said that nearly 2,500 officers had been wounded this year, a police union declared that its members were “in a state of civil war” with Muslims in the most depressed “banlieue” estates which are heavily populated by unemployed youths of north African origin.
It said the situation was so grave that it had asked the government to provide police with armoured cars to protect officers in the estates, which are becoming no-go zones.
The number of attacks has risen by a third in two years. Police representatives told the newspaper Le Figaro that the “taboo” of attacking officers on patrol has been broken.
Instead, officers – especially those patrolling in pairs or small groups – faced attacks as soon as they tried to arrest locals.
Senior officers insisted that the problem was essentially criminal in nature, with crime bosses on the estates fighting back against tough tactics.The interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, who is also the leading centre-Right candidate for the presidency, has sent heavily equipped units into areas with orders to regain control from drug smuggling gangs and other organised crime rings. Such aggressive raids were “disrupting the underground economy in the estates”, one senior official told Le Figaro.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/05/wmuslims05.xml
The BBC and half a story.
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/10/for-times-they-are-changin.html
Shock! Gasp! Horror! The French are now saying that the Israeli security fence (which the Beeb likes to claim is bigger than the Berlin Wall…) is in fact justified!
Let us all rush over to the best website in the world and see if they have reported this yet….!
The BBC and half a story;
Victim’s mother wants man hanged
The mother of a taxi driver in Pakistan said she will set herself on fire if a man from Leeds convicted of killing her son 18 years ago is not executed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/6092550.stm
The BBC takes great store in promoting the Islam is best line in every story it pushes.
So when faced with a story of a Muslim who is going to get his neck stretched for killing another Muslim because the victims family refuses to accept blood money. The BBC promotes the angle of well what do the family know;
However, Mr Hussain’s brother, Amjad Hussain, said the involvement of the taxi driver’s family did nothing but “fuel the flames” of the case.
He told BBC News: “The Pakistani government has the responsibility of dealing with this, not the family. “This should not involve personal passions.”
Err BBC every story you push about Muslims promotes the angle of how passionate they are about their faith. Cartoons, Veils, misguided criminals why even the militants formally known as terrorists are all passionate about subscribing to Sharia law. So tell me how come when a Muslim woman wants justice according to Islamic law in a Muslim land is passion suddenly a dirty word?
The BBC and half a story..
davet
I didn’t ignore ritter. I replied here:
John Reith | 27.10.06 – 5:47 pm |
I haven’t found a link to the other figs – they may not be published yet. Will ask around.
How the BBC promotes the view of its masters;
Should women dress more modestly?
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=4541&&&edition=1&ttl=20061027230735
Allah Ackba the BBC plays its radical Islamist card.
Not to impute perfection to ITV, but:
BBC Ceefax: No charges for Forest Gate victim
ITV Teletext: No porn charge for terror raid man
Bias? Nothing to see here, move along.
J Reith Esq:
Danke (might as well practice for zer new masters ven zer EU is complete…)
No charges for Forest Gate victim
The Crown Prosecution Service has advised police not to bring child pornography charges against a man shot during a terror raid in Forest Gate.
Unlike the humiliation meted out to a certain aging rock star:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3555287.stm
Townshend, 58, was arrested after a child pornography website in Texas was infiltrated by the FBI, who passed on details of 6,000 Britons who had used their credit cards to access images.
The guitarist admitted looking at the website, but said it was for research purposes. E-mails to child protection charities supported his claims.
Townshend was released with a caution and placed on the sex offenders register.
I assume that the ‘Forest Gate victim’, who was suspected of making pornographic pictures of children and who was in actual possesion of images which ‘which could have been inadvertently downloaded on the back of other computer files’ (oh sure!) wasn’t even cautioned.
John Reith,
I wouldn’t take viewing figures too seriously at the moment. We are not long into the digital age and we Brits are notoriously slow to change. Why else would we have elected a conservative government in 1992? People will stick with the BBC because they’re used to it. If in 5 years the figures are the same then maybe I’ll believe your propaganda.
P.S. Your comment re: the Telegraph. I used to read the Telegraph most days, including Saturdays when it’s even more expensive. Over the past year its content has gone downhill; its editorials (to nearly quote Mark Steyn) now consist of Alice Thomson cooing over David Cameron’s choice of tie. I read the Grauniad more often nowadays, even though its views don’t come anywhere near mine. Therefore I stopped buying it.
Likewise the BBC in the ’80s and early ’90s provided a decent standard of journalism, comedy, drama and sport. It wasn’t perfect but it was good value. Now in 2006 its journalism is riddled with an Anti-American, anti-semite, pro-state, anti-business, anti-progress agenda; its comedy, with the exception of Mock the Week, Ricky Gervais and the shows that have been around for over 15 years is execrable and also riddled with a leftist agenda; its best dramas, bar the occasional period drama and Messiah, are repeats or cheap crap; and it no longer shows Test Match Cricket, Premiership Football, Ryder Cup golf or skiing – its output is a bit of FA Cup football (usually Liverpool with two ex-Liverpool players commentating on it), snooker (which is strangely addictive), and the non-important darts code (which is not), plus Wimbledon (fair enough). On this evidence, it has gone the same way as the Telegraph in the last year or so.
So I stopped paying for it…. hang on, I couldn’t stop paying for it, unless I fancied a bit of prison. The BBC, accountable to no-one but itself.
In defence of the BBC, I live in (possibly the only nice bit of) the Costa Del Salford; I do sympathise with their reluctance to relocate there.
To use it as a bribe to extort yet more money from the taxpayer, though, is just not cricket.
Heron
“accountable to no-one but itself.”
No. It’s accountable to its trustees, to Parliament and to licence-payers. It would be hard to find any other organization that spends so much time, effort and money on the processes of being accountable.
I share many of your views about both the Telegraph and some of the BBC’s programmes. However, whenever I notice a programme I particularly dislike, I remind myself that the BBC has to serve all sorts – not just people like me.
Many programmes I think are junk seem to appeal to huge audiences among a different demographic.
I have almost entirely stopped watching BBC 1. I haven’t listened to radios 1 or 2 for more than a decade. But I reckon I get (at least) my licence-fee’s worth from BBC 2, BBC 4, Radio 4, Radio 3, BBC World Service and the BBC News Website.
Renting a DVD for one night costs me more than the licence fee for more than a week.
Buying a paper costs more than twice the licence fee.
Buying the Spectator costs more.
The only other media transaction I make that comes close to offering the same value for money as the licence fee is Private Eye.
If there were a huge number of people who were paying the licence-fee but who never used the BBC at all (or not enough to get their money’s worth) then it would be time for a re-think. But at the moment, almost everyone does use it.
So show us the proof that everyone watches it then….. 😎
davet
“The overall reach of the BBC’s television and radio
services is broadly stable at 92.7”
(TV viewing is based on all individuals aged 4+; Radio listening is based on all individuals aged 15+.)
New Media: bbc.co.uk average monthly reach was 13.7m adults
bbc.co.uk reached 57% of GB internet audience in April 2006.
http://www.bbcgovernors.co.uk/annreport/index.html
John Reith
Technically you are right about its accountability. Try making a complaint to the BBC and getting any affirmative action and that should give you the extent of its accountability to the licence payer. As for the Government, the BBC response to Government criticism would seem to be “suck up to the government for a bit, but wait for your chance of revenge” if the aftermath of Hutton is anything to go by. Hardly serving the licence fee payers properly or being impartial. No I can’t be arsed bringing up any links as evidence but we all know it happened.
You are also right about the comparable values but you deliberately (I think) miss the main point. I can choose which DVD I pay over the odds for, if I don’t like the Spectator – incidentally I do, but that’s by the by – I can leave it on the shelf and my money in my pocket. I subscribe to Private Eye, it is excellent value, but that’s also by the by.
Our concerns are not of the amount the licence fee – for me it would be irrelevant whether it was £30 or £300, but the fact that it is a compulsory tax, and as such, the BBC is required to maintain certain standards of broadcasting and programming. In the opinion of the contributors here, it is failing miserably at the moment. Were the BBC to report news impartially and without bias or prejudice, commit itself to quality new programmes on a regular basis, follow through its commitment to show good sport – buy which I don’t mean darts from Frimley Green or rally-car driving – then I would happily pay the fee and probably praise its value for money.
The fact that it doesn’t do any of these things mean I resent parting with my own money. Of the greatest concern is the cultural bias of its once great news reporting. This is not because I’m some right-wing, Jewish, neo-con, warmongering nutcase. I would be just as unhappy if the BBC fawned over ever word George Bush uttered and never had a bad word to say about Israel. We don’t want the BBC to switch from a left-wing to a right-wing agenda. We want it to drop any semblance of agenda, report the facts, be balanced in its reporting of opinions – and leave its journalists right out of the opinion-making process – and be rigorous in the cross-examination of everyone, even if the journalist secretly agrees with them.
I appreciate that this post is short on facts, but I believe that the facts on the shortcomings of the BBC are already superbly covered by Natalie, Pounce and all the contributors on this site.
‘No. It’s accountable to its trustees, to Parliament and to licence-payers.’
Give me a break jr.
Just look at who the trustees are.
Parliament? Well the BBC certainly has got the Jowell woman in its back pocket.
When an elected member of parliament sued the BBC (see JBH) they conducted a sinister campaign against him.
The licence payers? According to you they are compelled to pay under the Wireless Telegraphy Act, so who in the BBC gives a shit about what they think?
By the way, I’m not surprised that you have now harnessed the BBC’s legal department to help in framing your arguments. You seem to be tying down a lot of researchers too.
Is this the licence-payers money being spent wisely here.
Just on the news: UK forces abroad may be entitled to Council Tax reductions. Given the slating they get from the BBC I think an exemption from the BBC tax would be appropriate too.
Islamic Human Rights Commission is organizing an Islamophobia Awards vote at
http://www.ihrc.org.uk/islamophobia/
In the UK section one of the candidates is John Ware for his Panorama documentary concerning Palestinian charities operating in the UK.
The BBC and half a story;
According to the BBC this girl was victimised by an intolerant company;
“La Senza. It’s a high street brand selling underwear and nightwear it says it’s an equal opportunity employer. But this girl who doesn’t want to be named say’s her experience on her first day with them proves otherwise!”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/63000/bb/63306_16x9_bb.asx
The girls then goes on to gripe about being ask to tuck her scarf into her tee-shirt.
She even admits that her employer was accommodating and tried not to make her feel bad. Did you get that BBC So why do you then pull a Hijab wearing politician screaming intolerance in which to play the racist card.
She wasn’t sacked, she wasn’t shouted at, she wasn’t even treated badly. So why does the BBC play the victim card by pulling out everybody is intolerant experts.
Oh and BBC here is how the local rag reported the above story;
A MUSLIM teenager walked out on her first day as a city centre shop assistant because her boss allegedly asked her to adjust her religious headscarf.
The 19-year-old claimed she had only been working at La Senza underwear store in the Bullring shopping centre for a few hours before she quit feeling “shocked and upset”. She said she was “outraged” when the store manager asked her to tuck her traditional headscarf, known as a hijab, into her shirt collar.
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/news/tm_headline=muslim-worker-in-row-over-headscarf%26method=full%26objectid=17999988%26siteid=50002-name_page.html
Hang on the BBC report never mentioned she was outraged over a simple request . I wonder why?
The BBC and half a story…
The BBC and another story.
Another read the BBC article on Shazia Mirza and her forthcoming trip to India.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6080468.stm
Anybody notice how often the BBC promotes the Muslim angle in that story? 12 times.
And here is how the Independent reports on that Indian trip;
Why Shazia Mirza wants to shake off her ‘Muslim comic’ label
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/theatre/news/article1935927.ece
That’s strange as the BBC paints totally the opposite picture.
I wonder why?
The BBC and another story.
Anybody read the BBC article on Shazia Mirza and her forthcoming trip to India.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6080468.stm
Anybody notice how often the BBC promotes the Muslim angle in that story? 12 times.
And here is how the Independent reports on that Indian trip;
Why Shazia Mirza wants to shake off her ‘Muslim comic’ label
http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/theatre/news/article1935927.ece
That’s strange as the BBC paints totally the opposite picture.
I wonder why?
TPO:
John Reith:
Definition of a TV licence fee payer:
“The meaning of “licence fee payer”
In this Charter, a reference to a “licence fee payer” is not to be taken literally but includes, not only a person to whom a TV licence is issued under section 364 of the Communications Act 2003, but also (so far as is sensible in the context) any other person in the UK who watches, listens to or uses any BBC service, or may do so or wish to do so in the future.”
(From the BBC’s new Royal Charter)
That means, John Reith, that the BBC is responsible to all of us. Which makes sense, given its unavoidable suffocating “Ministry of Truth”-like reach, as you so ably pointed out.
TPO + B-BBC 1
JR 0
Nice item on The Register about last Tuesday’s BBC Horizon documentary ..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10/27/bbc_horizon/
I watched the first 10 minutes of it then gave up in disgust. The sad thing is that a few months ago the BBC repeated some Horizon’s from the 70’s and 80’s which were still good and showed just how much they had dumbed down.
Compare BBC reports of ‘Paris youths’, with this realistic report:
“Ongoing ‘intifada’ in France has
injured 2,500 police in 2006”,
http://www.worldtribune.com (27 Oct.).
TPO
“just look at who the trustees are”
A builder who used to work in the Conservative Research Department; a doctor; a solicitor; the former chief economist of the Royal Bank of Scotland; another economist; the former director of programmes at ITV; the head of a Cambridge College; the professor of Journalism at Cardiff (ex-ITN); the former editor of the Newcastle Evening Chronicle; a small-business owner and…… Michael Grade.
Yes, it would have been good to have had a retired General or Air Chief Marshal……but it’s not such a bad list is it?
We are all citizens only of the EUnation it would seem.
News24 showing a 5 minute self promotion starring that pudgy stockmarket reporter, Declan Curry. It has now been decided has Curry has star quality & appears to be getting a roving role.
The promo deals in part with the problem of potential migration from Romania & Bulgaria.
& who is standing in the way of our EU “countrymen”? Why none other than “another economic migrant” (John Reid).
So the UK counts for nothing. Scots, Romanians, what’s the difference?
“just look at who the trustees are”
and…… Michael Grade.
and …. two whose spouses work for the BBC.
pounce:
Do the half story treatment on this one.
Australia Muslim cleric suspended
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6090136.stm
Theres no background about his displeasure at seeing the Leb rapists getting banged up, because it was the girls’ faults…hence the sermon.
The BBC and half a story.
Deadly attacks on police in Iraq
At least 28 people have died in fighting between Iraqi police and gunmen in Baquba, 65km north of the capital, Baghdad, officials say. US military sources say the fighting went on for a number of hours, spreading to several town districts. At least 12 of the dead were Iraqi police, and 35 people were injured.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6088080.stm
So from the above it seems that only the police are dying in droves out in Iraq.
Well here is how the Muslim world read that story;
Gulf times
BAQUBA: A vicious battle between Iraqi police and insurgents north of Baghdad left at least 24 officers, 18 rebels and one civilian dead, the US military said yesterday.
An American reaction force of troops and aircraft was diverted to an area near Khan Bani Saad after an Iraqi police unit was ambushed.
“The police under fire fought back in intense house to house fighting,” a US statement said. “Iraqi and coalition forces engaged AIF (insurgents) with direct fire, killing 18 AIF, wounding eight and capturing 27 more
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=114718&version=1&template_id=42&parent_id=18
aljazeerah (But not Al Jzeerah of Quatar)
A ministry spokesman, Brig. Abdel-Karim Khalaf, said Iraqi forces moved into the area after learning of the presence of Iraqi resistance fighters who were behind the ambush on Monday of a convoy of buses carrying police recruits. At least 15 recruits were killed and 25 were wounded in that attack. Khalaf denied police had been surprised and put the death toll among officers at 12, with 19 alleged Iraqi resistance fighters killed and 28 captured.
http://www.aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2006%20News%20Archives/October/27%20n/37%20Iraqis%20Killed%20in%20Friday%20Attacks,%2043%20Iraqis%20and%205%20US%20Soldiers%20Killed%20Thursday,%20No%20Sings%20of%20War%20Diminishing%20After%20Ramadhan.htm
Hang on according to the BBC the police got a right kicking. Yet both of the above state that while 12/24 officers died, 18/19 rebels were slotted and 27/28 more arrested. Strange how a wannabe Muslim news orq (The BBC) promotes a vision of death and destruction for its masters. But then there are elections on the horizon in the US. It seems both the Muslim terrorists and the BBC wish to affect them surreptitiously
The BBC and half a story
Click to access 17.broadcastingfacts.pdf
Thank you JR for the facts and figures at last. Hmm…so despite the population rising the BBC reach actually dropped.
Furthermore BBC shows all BBC TV channels versus EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE CHANNEL in the country and still manages to claim victory? Looking at other figures despite the heavy advertising for example BBC Three is still lower than Sky 1.
In fact I’m finding fact after fact where the BBC actually are worst than the competition despite their built in advantage of funding and non- accountability to the market. Thus market shrinks then Sky etc produce better deals and programmes. BBC market shrinks they don’t care.
Where did the ICOS data come from as well? Good reading – thank you.
dave t
“so despite the population rising the BBC reach actually dropped.”
Reach is expressed as a percentage of total population. So you wouldn’t expect it to rise (as a percentage) as the absolute figure rises.
One year’s reach can often be lower than the previous year’s without being indicative of a trend. This USUALLY happens (for some networks) in, for instance, the year following a general election… or the year following important sports events – olympics/world cup etc.
Sky One has been going since 1978 (or only since 1989 in current form)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_One
You’d expect it to have a bigger audience than a niche yoof channel that’s only been going three and a half years.
However, in an earlier post (Ritter’s RAJAR figures) we saw that in multi channel homes ALL Sky channels put together accounted for only one third of the share gained by all BBC channels – despite there being many more Sky channels.
It seems that a large number of people are paying two or three hundred quid to Sky, installing the kit and then spending a third of their viewing time watching BBC, another big tranche watching More 4 etc and only ten per cent of their time actually watching Sky.
Before long they’ll suss that they’d be better off with Freeview.
Here’s another bit of news that won’t be reported by the BBC I suppose •
Israeli-Arab abducted in Gaza Strip
“Armed Palestinians in the Gaza Strip kidnapped an Israeli-Arab and wounded his wife, Palestinian sources said on Friday afternoon. The couple was visiting the northern …….. etc. etc.”
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c=JPArticle&cid=1161811218745&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
They’re arabs and probably moslems but from the ‘wrong’ side of the fence.
Alan man wrote;
Islamic Human Rights Commission is organizing an Islamophobia Awards vote at http://www.ihrc.org.uk/islamophobia/
I’ve just voted and voted for no one in every category. Now if a few more people vote like wise our friendly muslim human rights org will have nobody to hate.
Spread the word.
P.S
Any chance that some of you muslim clones who work at the BBC (who grace this board)could be so kind as to inform your masters that pounce isn’t happy for not getting nominated.
Its so simple JR, if the BBC is so great, and so many people want to watch it, WHY NOT LET THEM CHOOSE?
When BBC News does follow up an important report like this excellent
piece from Frank Gardner, why does it hide it away? To find this piece, you have to go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk,then to ‘Europe’,and rather hidden away under ‘Features’ is:
” The growth of ‘on line Jihadism'”.
Since most TVs I know switch on with BBC1 as the first channel no wonder they can claim we all watch BBC1…. ignoring the almost immediate switch over to the over side! 😎
I’ve got Freeview and can confirm like most of my mates that I rarely watch BBC if at all. The odd documentary (which they do so well but then they do pour lots of our money into these…)and things like Trooping the Colour (Oh look! That muppet’s out of step AGAIN….)which they have exclusives on. Otherwise “no nay never will I watch the old BBC….” Yet I still have to fork out £10.99 every month for something I don’t want use or need. Wait until I move house and buy all new TVs and give false addresses to the man in Curry’s!
Slightly off topic.
But I just have to report this;
Fancy a new job? The Muslim Council of Britain is advertising for an Executive Director. You’ve got plenty of time: applications need to be in by 17th November 2006.
The MCB states that (PDF document):
Its recruitment process is committed to ensuring that there is no discrimination on the basis of sex, racial or ethnic origin, religion or beliefs, disability or age…
…although the job description (PDF document) does say that “Practice of Islamic Adab and traditions” is essential, so if you’re Jewish or Christian you’d better brush up on your Adab pdq.
http://fromtherightside.com/2006/10/fancy-job-with-muslim-council-of.html
Just wondering how many Jews,gays or even women will get over the first hurdle? I wonder if the BBC would attack the MCB if say I was refused the chance of working at the MCB.
The BBC and half a story;
I watched a program last night on the UKTV History channel “Special Operations” The program was about special ops the SAS in World War Two and American special forces in Iraq 2003.
http://www.uktv.co.uk/index.cfm?uktv=tv.series&tvSid=147
The latter caught my eye as it concerned a story of how a blue on blue incident transpired which resulted in a BBC man getting killed. You know this one;
‘This is just a scene from hell’
The BBC’s world affairs editor John Simpson was accompanying a convoy of US special forces and Kurdish fighters when it come under attack from an American warplane. At least 10 people were killed, including a Kurdish translator working with the BBC team, Kamaran Abdurazaq Muhamed. Moments after the ‘friendly fire’ attack, in which he was wounded, John Simpson broadcast live by satellite telephone on the BBC news channel, News 24.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2921807.stm
So how does the BBC report on that Blue on blue?
“Simpson to US soldier: “Shut up. I’m broadcasting! Oh yes, I’m fine – am I bleeding?”
“This is a really bad own goal by the Americans
John Simpson “
“I think what probably happened was that there was a burned out Iraqi tank at the crossroads and I suspect that either the pilots got the navigational details wrong, which is possible,”
And how did the history program describe the incident;
American Special Forces using Javelin ATMs attacked an Iraq Tank column knocking out a T55 at the crossroads. The tank column retreated and took up position over the horizon on the reserve side of a hill. The Americans then advanced and continued with their attack. The accompanying kurds took up positions next to that knocked out T55. When the Americans experienced stiff resistance from the Iraqi troops they called up an airstrike. The USAF attacked that T55 which had been knocked out at the crossroads which also had a number of vehicles parked alongside. The pilots saw a gaggle of vehicles next to a crossroads and in the middle saw a tank. They attacked it.
The BBC in not reporting the full story is hiding the fact that gung ho idiots who have all the gear and no idea parked up next to a T55 in a warzone which was situated at a crossroads. (and I think back to my cadre course and how I was taught never to pick a predictable spot in which to park my arse) As the Welsh Guards at Bluff Cove found out sitting in comfort instead of getting out there is a recipe for disaster.
Oh yes BBC the planes were F14 tomcats and not F15 Eagles.
The BBC and half a story.
The BBC and half a story;
Thousands of young Muslim men have demonstrated in the Somali capital in support of a call for a holy war, known as a jihad, against Ethiopia.
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Some fear a regional conflict starting in Somalia, with Ethiopia backing the government and Eritrea and foreign Islamists backing the Union of Islamic Courts.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6092060.stm
And how the Guardian reports the same story;
Somalia faces ‘all-out war’ as neighbours intervene
Chris Tomlinson in Nairobi
Saturday October 28, 2006
The Guardian
An “all-out war” between Somalia’s government and Islamists who control much of the country is brewing due to the presence of thousands of foreign troops, according to the UN.A confidential report obtained by the Associated Press cites diplomatic sources and says that Ethiopia, Uganda and Yemen are supporting the government, while Iran, Libya, Saudi Arabia and Gulf states are supporting the Islamic movement. The report was written to help top UN officials work out how to provide aid to the impoverished country, without an effective central government since 1991.
The report estimates that 6,000-8,000 Ethiopians and 2,000 fully equipped Eritrean troops are inside Somalia supporting the government and the movement respectively.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1933788,00.html
The BBC and its master’s voice;
Oh look the BBC buries a story which it doesn’t wish the great unwashed to read;
Misbah’s mother refused legal aid
The mother of the 12-year-old schoolgirl at the centre of an international custody battle has been refused legal aid.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/6091916.stm
Misbah BBC? The last I looked the girls name is “Molly”
I’ll let you have that one thou. But I won’t let you have the next;
“Ms Campbell was awarded custody of her daughter in 2005 and claims she was illegally taken from Scotland to Pakistan by her father.”
Claims BBC? You even wrote in the report that the Mother was awarded custody of her daughter in 2005. So pray tell how a 12 year old child can up sticks and fly to Glasgow and then Pakistan (with her father) and you can say “claims she was illegally taken from Scotland to Pakistan by her father” .
Silly me you are defending Islam, no contest there is there. I mean when you refer to Terrorists as “Misguided criminals” who am I to argue with the BBC over the abduction of a 12 year old child.
The BBC and its master’s voice.
The BBC and how it defends half a story;
Talking to the enemy?
Peter Barron
26 Oct 06, 12:08 PM
The Taleban are fighting to kill British soliders in Afghanistan, they burn schools and support al-Qaeda. So is it right to talk to them?
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Some believe it is disloyal to our armed forces to film the enemy. But if we agreed not to show them, isn’t that just a small step away from censorship and pro-government propaganda?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2006/10/talking_to_the_enemy.html
and here is the how the Afghan people see that BBC report. A people I should add have had to endure years of censorship and pro-government propaganda;
Afghan Daily Slams BBC for Taleban Interview
Text of editorial by Afghan newspaper Weesa on 28 October entitled “Is this the meaning of media freedom?”
BBC radio [as published] recently interviewed the Taleban spokesman, Mohammad Hanif. Some of the aspects of this interview are noteworthy because of their effects on the nation. First of all, Mohammad Hanif’s words and reasoning obviously show that today, our nation is not confronting the previous simple Taleban. They are facing a new political movement which brings international experience of terror, such as suicide attacks, to Afghanistan. They are very different from the past in terms of tactics. They are now emerging as a mysterious movement whose threat is evident in advance. Besides this, we do not know why the international media and an international media outlet like the BBC should act as a platform for such a dangerous movement to carry out their propaganda campaign.
http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/710764/afghan_daily_slams_bbc_for_taleban_interview/index.html?source=r_technology
pounce
The mother of the 12-year-old schoolgirl at the centre of an international custody battle has been refused legal aid.
When you think of all of the disreptuable Islamist types that get “legal aid”- this really is astonishing. It sounds more like a political decision. I’m sure there will be a lot of sympathy for her!
Did you catch the debate on C4 this evening, anticipating the Dispatches prog.?
Channel 4 News: 28 October 2006
• “Mosques ban women” claim
http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id=3751