Open thread – for comments of general Biased BBC interest:


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315 Responses to Open thread – for comments of general Biased BBC interest:

  1. Robin says:

    I`m told that The World At One was extended by half an hour today.I thought something momentous for mankind might have happened ,can anyone enlighten me?

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  2. bobbydon says:

    Peregrine – yes the BBC reporting in the link you gave is shocking. Utterly worthless except for its propaganda value.

    And the BBC’s reporting of the [admittedly] sad death of Nick Clarke shows its self-indulgent nature.

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  3. will says:

    Gavin Esler who tells us that he likes America (& despite the evidence of his recent moonlighting at the Daily Mail, Esler is an honourable man) sends this joke in the Newsnight e-mail

    Today’s Joke Fit For an Eleven Year Old comes from an Iranian friend of
    mine who wishes to remain anonymous.

    An American gets on a plane and finds himself seated next to an Iranian
    lady.

    He sees her Iranian passport and strikes up a conversation.

    “So tell me,” he says, “why does a country like Iran – with so much oil
    and gas – need a nuclear programme?”

    The Iranian lady looks at him, a little puzzled.

    “That’s an interesting question,” she says. “But let me ask you
    something first.

    A horse, a cow and a deer all eat the same stuff…grass.

    Yet the deer excretes little pellets, the cow turns out a flat patty and
    the horse produces muffins of dried poop.

    Why do you suppose that is?

    The American guy is dumbfounded.

    Finally he replies: “I haven’t the slightest idea.”

    “Oh, I see,” says the Iranian, “so how is it you feel qualified to
    discuss Iran’s nuclear programme when you don’t know s**t?”

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  4. GCooper says:

    will repeats Esler’s punchline:

    “Oh, I see,” says the Iranian, “so how is it you feel qualified to
    discuss Iran’s nuclear programme when you don’t know s**t?””

    That’s never stopped Esler. Nor any of his colleagues.

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  5. Alan says:

    This report highlights another
    reason why the UK should ban the wearing of the burqa in public, (like Holland has just done), and not ban the wearing of a visible
    Christian cross (as British Airways has done). Al-Beeb, please note:

    ” Canada: Burqa-clad thief robs
    Brampton jeweller”,
    http://www.acage.org/news/
    (posted 23 Nov.)

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  6. Anonymous says:

    TPO:
    Now why is the bbc not reporting this:

    Allah blessed me, tells killer of British tourist

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/…3/ wjordan23.xml

    Ho hum again!
    TPO | 23.11.06 – 12:27 pm | #

    All sorts of media outlets (and the Grauniad) are reporting this story…

    http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&ncl=1111425987

    Yet the BBC, who the Liberator of Kabul brags about having more overseas presence than competitor media outlets, can’t seem to get their Amman reporter(s) off their arse(s) and report this story?

    What the f*ck is the point of this page?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/default.stm

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  7. pounce says:

    The Biased BBC at work

    Yesterday in Beirut 800,000 people took to the streets in which to protest at the assassination of Christian politician Pierre Gemayel
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/syria/story/0,,1955318,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=12
    The protests were aimed at Syria and Hezbollah.

    So how does the BBC report on the mood in the region?
    Lebanese viewpoints
    Three Lebanese people give their views on the significance of the past few days in their country: the assassination of anti-Syrian politician Pierre Gemayel, and the huge crowds attending his funeral rally.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/6176740.stm

    1st viewpoint ; The Jews and America did it.
    2nd viewpoint; Not sure who did it but I don’t think Syria did it. Oh by the way Hezbollah have a valid point about wanting more of a say in government.
    3rd viewpoint; Hezbollah are great and America isn’t..

    Hang on. 800,000 people protested against Syria in Beirut yesterday and its shared familiar ‘Hezbollah’ (so much so that today hundreds of Hezbollah supporters have blocked the road to the airport over insults made towards Hassan Nasrallah at the funeral yesterday.)
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3331970,00.html

    Yet strangely in Beirut today the BBC out of a total population of approx 1.5 million the BBC manages to find 3 people who not only support Syria and Hezbollah but hate the Jews and America in which to express the view in Lebanon.
    Why am I not surprised

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  8. Market Participant says:

    @pounce, in re the swan killer.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/6174344.stm

    Last Updated: Wednesday, 22 November 2006, 17:35 GMT

    Hungry man who killed swan jailed

    ===
    I’m inclined to think that if this happend in the US, he could have gone to jail for much longer than two months of time served.

    It seems to me, that public is less safe with swan killers roving in public parks at night.

    “”Judge Shaw added: “It’s a taboo act and the only sentence that is appropriate is imprisonment.””

    Taboo act isn’t the right way to refer to it. It’s a violation of any number of laws relating to normative public conduct and animal cruelty. In Britain people do not act like this.

    The swans at a boating pool are not a public resource for hungry muslims.

    The sentance to time served is lenient. This man should be deported and if not possible, imprisoned for longer than time served.

    “Police were alerted by a householder.”

    Pray tell how did the householder learn about this act? Imagine if someone was walking in the park with children, while Mr Miah was hacking the swan to death.

    “The court heard a community mental health team was anxious to help Miah, who had been going through a period of instability, according to his solicitor.”

    Perhaps HMs prison service/mental health service could also help in his case management.

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  9. Market Participant says:

    Bush berates hesitant Nato allies

    Last Updated: Tuesday, 28 November 2006, 18:57 GMT

    Bush berates hesitant Nato allies

    ===
    “US President George W Bush has berated Nato members reluctant to send troops to Afghan hotspots, demanding they must accept “difficult assignments”.”

    Firstly what evidence is there than bush has “berated” anyone? How did he “demand”.

    The BBC implies that GWB behaved very rudely yet gives no evidence for it. No direct quotes, no reactions from other people, nothing. They just say it and move on.

    Bias at its best. BBC delenda est.

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  10. Jonathan Boyd Hunt says:

    D Burbage | 19.12.06 – 10:22 am
    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/116595993263478419/#322761

    Be in no doubt, all the inner core of political staff throughout the BBC and the general news media – that is, those that have been employed as political journalists since 1994 – know or greatly suspect that the three late-emerging Fayed employees were coerced.

    One such person is the Telgraph’s new Assistant Editor Andrew Pierce, who is very friendly behind the scenes with the Guardian’s and the BBC’s political staff.

    It’s exactly because these three Fayed staff were coerced that the walk-on role of Fayed’s U.S. lawyer Douglas ‘Doug’ Marvin, who claimed to have discovered by chance their involvement packing envelopes with cash, was invented.

    The three Fayed staff came out of the woodwork on 29 Sept. 1996, on the eve of Hamilton’s and Greer’s libel actions, when Fayed sent the Guardian’s solicitors their 3 signed witness statements dated 27 Sept.

    Doug Marvin didn’t emerge with his claim to have discovered them until three whole months later on January 22 1997, a few days after the Downey inquiry began.

    Most interestingly, the Downey inquiry ought to have begun in mid-October 1996 but it was repeatedly delayed by The Guardian’s failure to submit its official complaint. A full three months later on 16 January 1997 The Guardian finally informed Downey that it was about to submit its complaint, and a day or so later after that then submitted Doug Marvin’s witness statement.

    I’ve no doubt that The Guardian delayed the submission of the complaint in order to give time to Fayed to persuade – i.e. bribe – someone in his employ to carry the can. What better a person than someone who lives thousands of miles away in America?

    Attributing the ‘discovery’ of the three emplyees to Marvin conveniently obviated the need for the Guardian’s conspiritorial lawyers Geoffrey Robertson QC and Geraldine Proudler, from having to give evidence and so perjure themselves.

    From the evidence it was most certainly Proudler and Robertson who put in a bare-faced request to Fayed’s London-based legal adviser Stuart Benson for some supporting witnesses. Benson communicated the request and Fayed eventually complied upon being told that if he didn’t The Guardian wouild lose the case.

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  11. Jonathan Boyd Hunt says:

    Further to the above post, there is copious evidence that The Guardian ran its original offending CFQ story of 20 Oct ’94, accusing the lobbyist Ian Greer, in the mistaken belief that Neil Hamilton and Tim Smith had both received commission payments from Greer for introducing new clients to his lobbying company.

    The Guardian believed that such commissions were actually bribes, and accordingly had prepared its defence on that basis. The trouble is, for reasons I won’t go into here, The Guardian were only 90% certain that Smith had received a commission. They weren’t 100% sure.

    So, a few weeks before the trial, The Guardian set out to discover whether Smith had indeed received an introductory commission as they fervently believed, and hoped. However their research drew a blank.

    At this juncture The Guardian’s legal team were then forced to risk revealing their hand by asking Greer’s solicitors to provide a list of all the MPs whom the lobbyist had granted commissions for introducing new clients.

    On 20 September, 10 days before the trial, Greer supplied the list. To The Guardian’s horror, Tim Smith wasn’t on it. Later, that very same day, the Guardian’s solicitors met up to discuss the case with Fayed’s legal adviser Stuart Benson.

    The Guardian would later claim that Doug Marvin happened to be in town and so also attended the meeting because he was interested in the case. So the story goes, during the meeting Guardian solicitor Geraldine Proudler showed Marvin a telephone message pad from Fayed’s office, which supposedly provoked him into coming up with the bright idea that Fayed’s secretaries might have been involved in processing bribes to Hamilton and Greer, following which he decided to check – and blow me down with a feather, they had been processing bribes all along.

    Good job Doug ‘happened to be in town’, eh? I mean, without his involvement the three employees would never have been discovered and The Guardian’s campaign that later “helped bring down the government” would have been holed below the waterline.

    Sure enough, the meeting between Benson, Proudler and Robertson did indeed happen. Sure enough, Fayed did indeed produce three witnesses out of the blue as a consequence of the meeting. But the story that Marvin had attended the meeting and had had the bright idea that Fayed’s secretaries could have been involved in processing bribes is a complete utter fabrication.

    See Guardian Lies No.s 6, 7 and 8, starting here:
    http://www.guardianlies.com/Section%203/page11.html
    And see Marvin’s witness statement here:
    http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/cm199798/cmselect/cmstnprv/030ii/sp01135.htm

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