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  1. pounce says:

    The BBC and half the story;
    Beirut funeral for Shia protester
    The funeral of an anti-government protester is being held in Lebanon’s capital, Beirut. Ahmed Mahmoud, a Shia, was killed by an unknown gunman in a Sunni district after leaving an opposition protest. Anti-government protests called by Islamist movement Hezbollah are now in their fifth day, with police reporting street clashes on the last two nights. Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora has condemned the killing and called for dialogue with opposition leaders.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6209438.stm

    Meanwhile Al Jazeera reports on Fouad Siniora by stating this;
    “Siniora has condemned the killing and ordered an inquiry.”
    http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/76A8D987-AA34-4410-B449-FE573972F79A.htm

    The BBC quotes this;
    “His coffin was carried through the streets on Monday to cries of “martyr”.

    Al Jazeera quotes;
    “”Martyred by the militias of the authorities,” reads a banner at the site of the opposition’s protest in central Beirut as demonstrators gather for a fifth consecutive day of protests.”

    The media in Iran shouts out;
    Lebanese protester martyred
    A Lebanese man was martyred Sunday by suspicious gunshot in his way back from a massive protest sit-in in demand of a national unity government.
    “The first martyr of the opposition has fallen to gunfire,” opposition groups said in a statement, pledging to “continue the people’s protest movement until a unity government is formed.”

    http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=226681&n=28

    The BBC sells this message about Hezbollah;
    “The anti-government protesters accuse Mr Siniora and his government of being too pro-Western and anti-Syrian, and of failing the Lebanese people”

    And the Guardian has this to say;
    A Hizbullah political success would plainly complement the group’s self-proclaimed military successes of August. And like Israel, the US and Britain see the potential “loss” of Lebanon as a direct gain not only for Syria and its favourite militia, but more worryingly, for Iran. This places the battle for Beirut squarely in the wider context of a regional power struggle with an increasingly confident Tehran. No less nervous about Shia Iran’s supposedly malign spreading influence are Sunni-led regimes in Cairo, Amman and Riyadh. Saudi Arabia’s particular worries were highlighted recently by a one-stop visit by Dick Cheney. The US vice-president has to watch his health. He rarely travels. But he went all the way to Riyadh to hear Saudi concerns about Iran’s activities in Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon and the Gulf.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1963881,00.html

    But then the BBC does love to blow the flute of a smiling Hassan Nasrallah

    The BBC and half a story….

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  2. pounce says:

    The BBC and half the story;

    The BBC promotes this;

    Iran to host meeting on Holocaust
    By Frances Harrison
    BBC News, Tehran
    Iran’s foreign ministry will host an international conference in Tehran next week that will ask if the Holocaust in World War II actually happened.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6209628.stm

    But hides this;
    Iran Warns EU Against Nuclear Sanctions

    Tuesday December 5, 2006 10:46 AM
    SARI, Iran (AP) – Iran’s president warned Washington’s European allies on Tuesday that Iran would reconsider its relations with them if they insist on punishing Tehran for its nuclear program, saying that would amount to an act of “hostility.” His comments came ahead of a meeting in Paris of diplomats from the United States, Britain, France, China, Russia, and Germany to discuss imposing penalties on Iran for refusing to stop uranium enrichment. “I’m telling you in plain language that as of now on, if you try, whether in your propaganda or at international organizations, to take steps against the rights of the Iranian nation, the Iranian nation will consider it an act of hostility,” President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said in a speech before thousands in northern Iran.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6259670,00.html

    Oh and they didn’t mention this story either;
    Hard-liners turn on Ahmadinejad
    05 December 2006 07:05
    President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, who flaunts his ideological fervour, has been accused of undermining Iran’s Islamic revolution after television footage appeared to show him watching a female song and dance show.
    http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__international_news/&articleid=292303

    The BBC and half the story

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  3. pounce says:

    The BBC and Not The Nine O’clock news;

    Hamas Chief Promises War Even if PA State is Established
    Khaled Meshaal, the Damascus-based leader of the Hamas terrorist organization, makes no bones: Either Israel leaves all of Judea, Samaria and Gaza and agrees to the ‘right of return’ – or war.
    ————————————-XXXX——————————————————-
    “We can have an intifada even when running the Palestinian Authority,” Meshaal said, explaining that the ceasefire was not designed to bring peace, but is rather another stage in the war with Israel. “The current calm [cease-fire in Gaza – ed.], just like the escalation [before that], is part of the way we manage the conflict with Israel.”
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=116873

    Israeli-Arabs Shoot Cow-Farmer for His Land
    The desire to graze his cows in pre-1967 Israel, not far from several Arab villages, almost cost Amir Engel his life – at the hands of Arabs who wanted him out.
    In 1991, Amir Engel, a resident of one of the farming communities in the Jezreel Valley, leased and registered land nearby for the purpose of grazing his cows. Well aware that he was the only Jewish cow-farmer in an area populated by seven Arab villages, Engel refused to give in. “We were constantly harassed by Arabs,” he said, “with violence, threats, damage to our property, and more. No one could control them.”
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=116873

    Religion of peace BBC?

    The BBC and Not the Nine O/Clock news.

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  4. Anonymous says:

    Bijan Daneshmand:

    Go get him tiger…..Jon Reith, savaged again, and his lies show to be just that….lies….

    I am begining to wonder if the BBC is accidentaly Biased……or has their been some sort of “plan” to take over the BBC through a Islamic/Communist/Socialist coup de ta……

    I mean, the BBC is sooooooo left field, and so deaf to the concernes of us, the people who fun it…..it seems as if their is a planned and deliberate alterior motive behind their choice of friends and propaganda….

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  5. cassis says:

    Cockney

    SiN is right – the planet has had huge degrees of temp changes which have had absolutely nothing whatever to do with ‘man’.

    I work with ‘climate change’ scientists who are measuring NO2 emissions. And guess what? The greatest culprit here are the farmers in Africa – burning the savanna.

    And what is the most important aim for these scientists?

    To get FUNDING so they can carry on in their jobs.

    You can guess the rest.

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  6. archduke says:

    just watching C4 news on Iraq.

    God help them if the U.S. just pulls out.

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  7. Anonymous says:

    “All of the above where card carrying CND(AKA Stop the War) members during the eighties,or are idelogically twinned,and when not been wined and dined by the very best Markus Wolff had to offer,better known as the “East German Peace/Trade/Cultral deligation”,then they were sipping herbal tea with the WI and the local Spetznaz survalliance squads at Aldermaston.”
    Owen Of Clun | 05.12.06 – 2:53 pm |

    I didn’t know then, when I had to waste my time at Greenham Common ensuring that the lice and flea infested women didn’t get in, that two of their number were female members of the Spetznaz plotting up the times and routes of the cruise convoys. I’m sure now that some of the useful idiots at the site who were (and still are) so lionised by the bbc were aware of who was amongst them.
    In fact why did the bbc not ever mention this along with the fact that the Spetznaz often came into this country posing as East European HGV drivers. The purpose of that being to work out how long it would take the T72 tanks to get up the motorways.

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  8. TPO says:

    Anon was me.

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  9. archduke says:

    “And what is the most important aim for these scientists?
    To get FUNDING so they can carry on in their jobs.
    You can guess the rest.
    cassis | 05.12.06 – 6:17 pm |”

    but science is wide ranging – and every scientist lobbies for funding – from the space/NASA types to the biotech scientists to the super-collider Physics types.

    what is happening is that politicians & Green fascists are cherry picking science to push their own agenda.

    can ANYONE name a single climate scientist?

    And i mean a chap in a white coat with a PhD?

    so, if its nothing but unqualified non-science types mouthing off, doesnt that tell you something about the argument?

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  10. dave t says:

    TPO

    I still scratch when I remember the Greenham Common patrols…..women? More like East German Shot Putters but at least the EGSPs used to have showers! *shudder*

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  11. DennisTheMenace says:

    The current annual Global investment in research specifically related to climate change is in the order of 4bn USD (and rising). Since the activation of the Kyoto Protocols last year the total global cost so far has been the order of 50 Bn USD.

    —— Yep, you guessed it; it’s an industry, and a lucrative one.

    http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/debate_not_over_somehow/

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  12. Anonymous says:

    dave t

    you were lucky. some of us lived there.

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  13. Anonymous says:

    Robert Gates, Bush’s defense secretary nominee, told a Senate committee that the US was not winning the war in Iraq.

    Now “not winning” can mean “stalemate” or even the Beeb’s favourite word “quagmire”. However, it doesn’t automatically mean “losing”.

    Naturally, Beeboid bimbo Natasha Kaplinsky summed up the headlines on the Six O’Clock News by using the L-word saying that Gates had said the US was “losing”.

    Going to a CNN’s site we read the following…

    Later, he clarified his remark, saying the United States wasn’t losing either and that his comment pertained to Iraq as a whole, not just as a military endeavor.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/05/gates.confirmation/index.html

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  14. Alan says:

    I suppose that Al Beeb is disappointed that Al Channel 4, and not Al Beeb, is to be, apparently, the first UK tv channel to transmit a fully veiled Muslim, specifically contracted to address a predominantly non-Muslim audience later this month. We are talking about a dhimmi tv company which refused to show cartoons about
    Muhammad, lest these caused offence.
    Presumably, it does not concern
    Al Channel 4 whether the proposed
    veiled spectacle at Christmas-time
    will frighten children or offend
    many Christians and other non-Muslims.

    I will not need reminding to boycott Al Channel 4 from now on.

    Even Al Jazeera, which in A.A.Gill’s
    memorable words, has ‘more spin than a team of dervishes in a centrifuge’,
    isn’t inflicting that nauseating
    spectacle on us.

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  15. David Guy says:

    the first UK tv channel to transmit a fully veiled Muslim, specifically contracted to address a predominantly non-Muslim audience

    A ratings breakdown will be very interesting.

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  16. Market Participant says:

    Wait untill the very end, before showing where the real motivations are.


    Israel’s education minister has said school textbooks should show Israel’s pre-1967 borders, prompting a storm of criticism from right-wingers.
    Yuli Tamir said changes were needed to give Israeli children a proper understanding of their history.

    Currently, schoolbooks show Israel’s territorial conquests in the 1967 war – the West Bank, Gaza, East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights – as part of Israel.

    International law deems them occupied land that Israel has illegally settled.

    Then some more nonsense. And only one paragraph from the end is a very important fact revealed.


    “Ms Tamir – who is a founder of the anti-settlement group Peace Now – countered criticism by saying that ignoring the facts of Israel’s pre-1967 shape also reflected a political viewpoint.”

    The education minister is a founder of an extreme leftist “peace” group. Ought that not to be mentioned earlier on.

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  17. Market Participant says:

    Ack, for the previous post

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6210144.stm

    Last Updated: Tuesday, 5 December 2006, 14:51 GMT

    Row erupts over Israeli textbooks

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  18. Market Participant says:

    “In February, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad caused controversy by saying the Holocaust was a myth.

    The remark was condemned by Jews around the world. Six million Jews were killed by the German Nazis during the war.”

    Ahmadinejad’s comments were condemned by alot more people than just Jews.

    “This is Iran’s answer to the debate about freedom of speech over the cartoons insulting the Prophet Mohammed, and its way of trying to woo radical support in the Middle East for its anti-Israeli and pro-Palestinian policies.”

    How does the BBC reporter know what this is? Does he have a magic mirror into the mind of the iranians.

    “But inside Iran, the issue of the Holocaust is not a major one, and many young people do not even know much about it.”

    Explore further please.

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  19. Market Participant says:

    Hrm,

    Iran to host meeting on Holocaust
    By Frances Harrison

    Last Updated: Tuesday, 5 December 2006, 12:54 GMT

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6209628.stm

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  20. Fran says:

    Credit where it’s due.

    Just watched a brilliant programme about the Dead Sea Scrolls on BBC 3.

    No weight, no agenda, just fascinating documentary reportage.

    Auntie in her glad rags!

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  21. archduke says:

    world wide web

    bbc 1

    watch it.

    (see how this pans out , as its only just started…)

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  22. Bryan says:

    Yeah, funny that. Even though the BBC stinks when it comes to politics, it can still produce excellent documentaries.

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  23. pounce says:

    The BBC and shoddy reporting;

    London attracts Indian investors
    India is the second biggest foreign investor in London, and will contribute over £33m to the capital’s economy in 2006/7, according to a new estimate.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6209992.stm

    I take it nobody from the BBC could be bothered to use their Oyster card and take a little trip on the Piccadilly Line. If they had got off at Holloway Road tube they would have seen the fruition of over £100m in sponsorship from a tiny Middle Eastern Airline. I mean it’s not as if the BBC plebs can miss it as they go to Friday prayers at Finsbury Park mosque.

    The BBC and shoddy reporting….

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  24. archduke says:

    £33 MILLION???? huh? thats what a Russian billionaire spends on buying a ONE Chelsea football player.

    and have the BBC heard about that certain thing called the “City”?

    pathetic.

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  25. archduke says:

    “world wide web” docu factoid

    40 per cent of people watching YouTube are *over* 35.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/listings/programme.shtml?day=today&service_id=4223&filename=20061205/20061205_2235_4223_3276_50

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  26. amimissingsomething says:

    oh dear

    was it 75% of employers not going to allow christmas decorations for fear of causing offense? (and litigation?)

    am i being unfair if i say

    bbc 1, mainstream 0

    ?

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  27. moonbat nibbler says:

    “Naturally, Beeboid bimbo Natasha Kaplinsky summed up the headlines on the Six O’Clock News by using the L-word saying that Gates had said the US was “losing”.”

    Six hours later and news24 still has this as the lead story and are still blatantly lying by saying Gates talked about “losing”. Over on Sky the death of a British serviceman in Afghanistan tops the same midnight news.

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  28. DennisTheMenace says:

    Re: Market Participant | Homepage | 05.12.06 – 10:05 pm | #

    BBC reporting on pre-1967 border issues.

    What was also not mentioned it seems is that prior to 1967 (and post 1948) that the west-bank + east Jerusalem and gaza were illegally occupied by Jordan and Egypt respectively, with nary a cross word or objection from the international community or the UN.

    In each case the inhabitants of these areas were denied full citizenship of the occupying countries (Jordan & Egypt) to deliberately limit their freedom of movement and deny them any economic opportunities within Jordan or Egypt. That is to maintain them in a permanent ‘refugee’ status • all fully funded and administered by the UN.

    What is also rarely mentioned is ‘Black September’ , the events that led up to it and the subsequent consequences for Lebanon. Again there was little international reaction at the time or afterwards to what was a very brutal and violent series of events.

    ” Black September in Jordan – the conflict between Palestinian guerrilla organizations and King Hussein of Jordan that began in September 1970 and ended in July 1971 with the expulsion of the PLO to Lebanon.”

    Also see linked article for an excellent and concise academic analysis on the general bias within the MSM, how it is accomplished and its deliterious effects.

    http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2006&itemno=644

    Generally the BBC seems to think that none of us has any long-term memory function left and that we are unable to recall what actually happened in times past.

    Stupid and arrogant – ‘the BBC – this is what they are’

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  29. AntiCitizenOne says:

    http://www.julianlewis.net/press_detail.php?id=67

    As for Soviet funding of CND, it was proven in November 1991 that the KGB bankrolled the British Communist Party throughout the 1970s • the very period when (as Bruce Kent repeatedly acknowledged) only the support of the Communist Party and of the Quakers enabled CND to survive.

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  30. Socialism is Necrotizing says:

    Heffer on Cameron

    Above all, he has managed what I have always felt to be the aim of his policy-free, Left-leaning PR campaign of the past 12 months: to neutralise the BBC to the point where his party’s activities are reported without what had become the compulsory sneer.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/12/06/do0601.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2006/12/06/ixopinion.html

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  31. Socialism is Necrotizing says:

    The Stern Report is fraudulent

    http://www.18doughtystreet.com/blog/

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  32. Anonymous says:

    Six hours later and news24 still has this as the lead story and are still blatantly lying by saying Gates talked about “losing”. Over on Sky the death of a British serviceman in Afghanistan tops the same midnight news.
    moonbat nibbler | 06.12.06 – 12:22 am

    So, either their research skills are woeful, their English comprehension awful…or they’re just agenda-driven liars.

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  33. Market Participant says:

    “Generally the BBC seems to think that none of us has any long-term memory function left and that we are unable to recall what actually happened in times past.”

    There is a certain british novel with exactly this theme. It is about a man who works for a newspaper revising the past.

    Can’t remember what its name is though, it must have fallen into the memory hole.

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  34. TPO says:

    Numeracy and literacy rates plummeting. An increasing number of children leaving school unable to read or write.
    Education in this country at an all time low. Exam pass marks fiddled and inflated by comparing GCSE results in golf course maintenance, needlework and beauty consultation (and not forgetting the ultimate waste of time • meedja studies) with mathematics and physics.
    What do the vermin in the bbc offer about the party of vermin:

    Brown set to focus on education

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6211176.stm

    Not a word in that piece of propagandising trash for the party of vermin about the disaster of British education after 9 years of the party of vermin’s edjookashon, edjookashon, edjookashon.
    bbc you are rubbish.

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  35. TPO says:

    More propagandising trash for the party of vermin and in particular, Gordon Brown from the supporters of vermin at the bbc.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6160929.stm

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  36. Abandon ship! says:

    Midweek with Libby Purves

    Today’s guest is Michael Franti – all round Beeboid good guy, as well as
    Peace campaigner frequenting Iraq, the West Bank, Gaza Strip.

    Get the picture? That is, the picture that Radio 4 transmits on a daily basis?

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  37. Mike says:

    Not sure if I’m going mad at the moment, but I’m sure I saw yesterday a “Have Your Say” (sic) topic on the website about climate change. The top comments on the most recommended page were all talking about how it’s rubbish. Can’t find it now. Anyone got a link?

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  38. TPO says:

    The hideously ethnic bbc have, for years, been trying to ramp up that pretentious little prat Thabo Mbeki.
    How come they aren’t telling us about this:

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/davidblair/dec2006/funeral.htm

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  39. TPO says:

    Mugabe’s thug regime in action: Zimbabwe breaks world records

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign/petathornycroft/dec2006/zimbabwerecords.htm

    “Lowest life expectancy for women, 34 – 38. Unfortunately WHO in Harare won’t talk to the press about that because they are worried as the Zimbabwe government was furious when the statistic came out from Geneva earlier this year. Now UNESCO says Zimbabwe has the highest number of orphans, in proportion to the population, one in four.”
    The information comes, as usual, from Peta Thorneycroft.

    On the hideously ethnic bbc……..forget it. All they’re interested in is trash from the likes of Bowen or fluffing up Gordon Brown.
    One of the bufoonish apologists for the bbc recently stated on this site that the bbc was banned from Zimbabwe and that was why they didn’t report on anything to do with Zimbabwe. So if the bbc hasn’t got a team of 200 ‘reporters’ and support staff on the ground then the news doesn’t exist. Just what are we paying for?

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  40. Biodegradable says:

    The BBC is studiously ignoring this story:

    Offering Video, Israel Answers Critics on War
    JERUSALEM, Dec. 4 — Israel’s military, which has been accused of abuses in its war against Hezbollah this summer, has declassified photographs, video images and prisoner interrogations to buttress its accusation that Hezbollah systematically fired from civilian neighborhoods in southern Lebanon and took cover in those areas to shield itself from attack.

    […]

    The report says: “The construction of a broad military infrastructure, positioned and hidden in populated areas, was intended to minimize Hezbollah’s vulnerability. Hezbollah would also gain a propaganda advantage if it could represent Israel as attacking innocent civilians.”

    In video from July 23, a truck with a multi-barreled missile launcher, presumably from Hezbollah, is parked in a street, sandwiched between residential buildings. The video was transmitted from an Israeli missile approaching the truck. The screen goes fuzzy as the missile slams into the target.

    In another video, from a Lebanese village, rockets are seen being fired from a launcher on the back of a truck. The truck then drives a short distance and disappears inside a building. Seconds later, the building itself disappears under a cloud of smoke from an Israeli bomb.

    The report says that there were many such examples, and that Hezbollah has been preparing for such an engagement for years, embedding its fighters and their weapons in the Shiite villages of southern Lebanon. When Hezbollah fired its rockets from those areas, Israel faced a choice of attacking, and possibly causing civilian casualties, or refraining from shooting because of the risk, the report said.

    Elias Hanna, a retired Lebanese Army general, said of the Israeli allegations, “Of course there are hidden invisible tunnels, bunkers of missile launchers, bunkers of explosive charges amongst civilians.”

    He added: “You cannot separate the southern society from Hezbollah, because Hezbollah is the society and the society is Hezbollah. Hezbollah is holding this society together through its political, military and economic services. It is providing the welfare for the south.”

    Asked whether Hezbollah should be seen as responsible for the deaths of Lebanese civilians in the war, he replied: “Of course Hezbollah is responsible. But these people are ready to sacrifice their lives for Hezbollah. If you tell them, ‘Your relative died,’ they will tell you ‘No, he was a martyr.’ The party’s military preparations from 2000 till 2006 took place in their areas. They were of course done with complete secrecy, but in accordance with the civilians.”

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  41. Cranmer says:

    His Grace has been encouraged to bring to your attention the very obvious pro-Islam bias on the BBC’s religion webpage.

    Everything about Islam is stated as an unequivocal fact. Christianity has ‘claims’, or its adherents merely ‘believe’. Jesus is not Lord, but Mohammed is Prophet, etc, etc.

    More analysis here.

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  42. GCooper says:

    SIN writes:

    “Heffer on Cameron…”

    Heffer is, of course, quite right about Cameron and the BBC – and he hasn’t been alone in saying it.

    The problem is that the Boy Wonder’s disgusting mixture of socialism and ‘Green’ policies isn’t just skin deep. The BBC is starting to warm to the little creep because he is what so many of them want.

    What will possibly happen is the development of a schism among BBC labourites, with hard-Left traditional ‘wot abaht the workers’ types backing Brown and the rest supporting Cameron – albeit through gritted teeth.

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  43. John Reith says:

    Your Grace

    You have clearly not read the BBC Religion site very closely. Otherwise you would have noticed that each religion is described in the style of its adherents – and using the language/habits of that faith.

    Hence, Mohammed is called ‘the Prophet mohammed’ on the Islam page (but not elsewhere) and that pbuh afterthought is added.

    The BBC openly declares its policy:

    “to write about each faith from the point of view of that faith – so that our explanatory pages were in essence, a particular religion explaining itself to the reader.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/practices/pbuh.shtml

    If your Grace were to stray into the Catholic pages, you’d find:

    “Popes can speak infallibly on matters of faith and morals ”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/catholic/catholic_1.shtml

    I know that’s not a statement with which a cleric of your persuasion will agree, but I hope you will now see that it is not a bias in favour of Islam that you have stumbled upon – rather a stylistic device called coloured narrative.

    May the blessings of Almighty God and his Son Jesus Christ go with you.

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  44. Umbongo says:

    Our wonderful Chancellor of the Exchequer is making his pre-Budget statement today. So why doesn’t “Today” interview him tomorrow when we’ll all know what he said (or didn’t say)? There’s no point in talking to him before his statement – he’s not going to tell us what’s in it. Then an irate 81-year old read out his complaints to Gordo, only for Gordo (and the compliant Naughtie) to swat away Mr Benison’s (?) complaints as if they were the usual moans from the peasantry who misunderstand the higher economics vouchsafed to Messrs Brown and Naughtie. Why does the BBC bother? At least the pensioner should be allowed a follow-up question or an objection to being patronised (or doesn’t the presumed pre-interview agreement between Gordo and the BBC allow that?). Once again an opportunity to pin Gordo to the wall for his destruction of the UK pension system was missed. (Not that follow-up questions necessarily do much good – Gordo always makes mincemeat of Osborne in the Commons – mind you who couldn’t?)

    Then, at the end of the “interview” Naughtie referred to Mr Brown’s sick child: Brown stated that, of course, he had nothing to do with the release of this news, then, instead of saying – as anyone with any pretence of reticence would say – “I don’t want to talk about it”, he goes on to talk about it: quite disgusting – it’s the modern equivalent of displaying your sores in public.

    Not necessarily BBC bias (after all Osborne was interviewed later in the programme) but crap journalism.

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  45. Roger Sofar says:

    Biodegradable | 06.12.06 – 10:57 am

    Yeah, and IDF headquarters is in Tel Aviv.

    Does that make the entire population of TA human shields? Or the city a legitimate target?

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  46. Biodegradable says:

    Roger Sofar:

    I’m not interested in your opinions. I’m interested in the fact that the BBC chooses not to cover this report, just as it chooses not to cover other reports that accuse Hezbollah of war crimes.

    The IDF does not hide missiles in civilians’ homes and IDF soldiers are clearly distinguishable as such by their uniforms.

    See these videos for an insight into the mindset of the brave Hezbollah ‘resistance’:

    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=5697038157853637560&hl=en%22%20flashvars=%22

    http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-7115626293343757342&hl=en%22%20flashvars=%22

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  47. John Reith says:

    Umbongo

    “So why doesn’t “Today” interview him tomorrow….?”

    There is a reaon why ‘Today’ is called ‘Today’. It is because the programme’s remit is to discuss today’s agenda – as opposed to yesterday’s or last week’s.

    There are plenty of other programmes that take a retrospective approach.

    Given the audience figures, I’d say the ‘Today’ formula goes down pretty well with the audience.

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  48. Socialism is Necrotizing says:

    Given the audience figures, I’d say the ‘Today’ formula goes down pretty well with the audience.
    John Reith | 06.12.06 – 12:55 pm | #

    There is no competition Reith, get it,

    THERE IS NO COMPETITION.

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  49. Rueful Red says:

    Given that it’s just about the only BBC stuff I consume apart from the cricket highlights, the Today programme’s bloody expensive.

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  50. Anonymous says:

    “Given the audience figures, I’d say the ‘Today’ formula goes down pretty well with the audience”

    Would you?

    BBC viewers and listeners have ben dropping off in the millions over the last few years…..Radio 4 included……Radio 5 just posted one of it’s worst set of figures ever….and BBC1s Saturdays night “Blockbuster” Robin Hood is official “In ratings trouble”, getting a paultry 5 mill……but even that is numbers that the Today team can only dream about……

    A tiny minorty of about 1% of the population ever tune into the Today program…….mainly due to the fact that everyone knows that the BBC dfoes not represent them or interest them in any way…..

    The BBC is obsolete John…time you old Dinosaurs realised tat…the Interent, cheap DVDs, VOD and Interent Radio PROOVE that there is no need for a licence fee…the BBC is no longer needed, and will soon die……sadly, it has been to old, stupid and slow to react to times a changing……..

    It and you are old news mate……locking people in Prison is not the way to scare people into paying for your unwanted services…it’s pathetic and anti-human rights…….locking up grannies and single mums over a TV??..you support that Reith?…your’e sick in the head my old senile loser….

    lol….

    🙂

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