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archduke:
interesting scan of the NY Times, 1948
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/NYTimes_1948_Jews_in_Arab.jpg
archduke | 29.03.07 – 5:04 pm
Nice find archduke.
I once came across NYT press cuttings from the 1930s talking about “Palestinians” and a “Palestinian delegation” etc. Guess what? The “Palestinians” in question were Israeli Jews.
I’m not sure of the date, but until a certain point Jews in Israel were referred to as “Palestinians” and Arabs as, well, “Arabs”.
Remember that the name “Palestine” comes from before Roman times, before Islam even existed.
http://www.science.co.il/History-Palestine.asp
http://www.imninalu.net/myths-pals.htm
Palestinians are the newest of all the peoples on the face of the Earth, and began to exist in a single day by a kind of supernatural phenomenon that is unique in the whole history of mankind, as it is witnessed by Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist that acknowledged the lie he was fighting for and the truth he was fighting against:
“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.
Archduke?
Do you have that bio on that IRGC defector?
The BBC and its love of Islamic terrorists
Helicopters fire on Somali market
Ethiopian helicopter gunships have fired at a market near an insurgent stronghold in the Somali capital. Many civilians had been injured and wounded in recent weeks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6506071.stm
Anybody notice how when the BBC reports on people battling terrorists, they always ensure that they inform the reader of how many civilians have been killed or injured. (Usually pointing the finger at the armed forces fighting said Islamic terrorists)
Yet when Islamic terrorists blow up Schools, Hospitals, Markets or even mosques the BBC ensures the full facts are shrouded by double speak and pointing the finger of blame at anybody bar Islam. So in the above headline is the BBC giving the impression that Ethiopia is indiscriminately shooting up markets? And here is how Sky reports the same story;
Copters Bomb Strongholds
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1258163,00.html?f=rss
AFP
Ethiopian offensive spurs deadly violence in Somali capital
http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/070329151642.xmlgldzd.html
AP
Witnesses: 2 helicopters drop several bombs on insurgent stronghold in Somalia’s capital
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20070329-0157-somalia.html
Every man and his dog reports what is actually happening. The BBC on the otherhand only reports what is favourable to Islamic terrorists.
BBC Radio One Newsbeat: “Say sorry to Iran and everything will be fine…”
At least that’s how I understood what was being said.
Alan Johnston: Your messages
Added: Thursday, 29 March, 2007, 16:18 GMT 17:18 UK
Alan, I am disgraced at the behaviour of this group of people. I wish to send my message of concern and express my disappointment at the behaviour of these people. As a Gazan myself, i want you to know that the palestinians are thinking of you.
Your journalism has always pleased us and we are utterly grateful for your objectivity on this matter.
I send you my very best of wishes and will continue to pray for your release
Hana
Hana Agil, Manchester
Added: Thursday, 29 March, 2007, 16:03 GMT 17:03 UK
Alan, we miss you and we miss your stories. Please come back and then tell us what happened. The Palestinian people and the world need you.
Jennie Jonasson, Kopavogur, ICELAND
Added: Thursday, 29 March, 2007, 15:59 GMT 16:59 UK
The Immediate release of Alan Johnstone is the best outcome for the Palestinians and the rest of the world.
I speak as a Palestinian to call upon those holding him to release him immediately.
Mo Karam, London
Added: Thursday, 29 March, 2007, 15:42 GMT 16:42 UK
I’m from Gaza and I know the Palestinian people’s values and beliefs. No one, no real Palestinian would do this stupid action whatever the reasons could be. I believe, and I know what I’m saying, that there is a group with a long history of kidnapping western FRIENDS who support us by all means, like ALAN. I’m a journalist, unfortunately, some people who lost their power trying to show off. We all support ALAN wishing his release as soonest. Please world stop closing eyes off reality
Khalil Al Agha, London
Added: Thursday, 29 March, 2007, 15:25 GMT 16:25 UK
I have read this BBC journalist is a truly friend of the palestinian people. Is this the way palestinians thanks his friends ? The absence of law in Gaza is terrible, why the Hamas led government do not put a stop to this ? They cannot enforce the law or they don’t want do it ?
daniel, santiago
Added: Thursday, 29 March, 2007, 10:30 GMT 11:30 UK
Alan,
We always shared poetry. Here are lines from one I recall discussing in those evenings eating Gaza’s prawns in the Beach Hotel.
“Here on the slopes of hills, facing the dusk and the cannon of time
Close to the gardens of broken shadows,
We do what prisoners do,
And what the jobless do:
We cultivate hope”
[from “Under Siege” by Mahmoud Darwish]
I hope after your release you find solace in the fact that ‘when they came for you’ there were so many who spoke up.
Eóin Murray, Dublin
” Ingsoc is doublethink | 29.03.07 – 5:45 pm ”
yeah here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Reza_Asghari
that is one hell of coup for us.
and here’s how it could be connected to the 15 marines:
“After 15 British navy personnel were seized by Iranian forces on March 23, 2007, some media reports have suggested that the Iranian government wants to trade them for Iranian personnel allegedly abducted, including Asgari.”
Good to see Craig Murray and George Galloway getting plenty of flak for their predictable pro-Islamic Republic of Iran, anti-British line at Harry’s Place blog.
No doubt they will both be on Al Beeb, etc., soon.
The BBC, it’s hatred of Israel and half a story;
Palestinians cling to ‘right of return’
As you wind your way through the tight alleyways of the al-Amari refugee camp it’s almost impossible not to rub your jacket against the dirty walls. The sun barely reaches these parts of the camp, which echo with sound of young children playing. But it’s in alleyways like these across the Middle East that one of the thorniest issue of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict lies – the Palestinian refugees and their “right of return”. Arab leaders currently holding a summit in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, have urged Israel to accept an Arab peace initiative first proposed in 2002.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6506101.stm
Yet again the BBC paints a picture of Jewish intransigence. That only the Muslims are victims.
So tell me BBC where is the coverage of how the vast majority of Muslims were asked to leave Israel not by the Jews but by the invading Muslim armies. How as at the same time these poor Muslims wishing to return to a land improved by Jewish sweat and tears. The same number of jews were expelled at gun point from almost every Arab land. However unlike the Muslim world which while professing Islamic brotherhood for all Muslims the jews actually incorporated their expelled brothers into Israel, not calling them refugees for a political purpose but Israelis.
Strange how the BBC kind of leaves out the salient fact that its Islamic masters kicked out as many Jews as left Israel at the calling of those very same Muslims.
So why do the Muslims wish to return to Israel? Because they can only steal from the hard work of others. Not one Muslim country in the world has been built by the blood sweat and tears of the faithful. Instead they kill, steal and play the victim card in which to acquire the wealth of those countries which they claim is theirs, but which they cannot be asked to work towards. And the BBC is more than happy to support their cause.
Reported by the BBC:
The Saudi monarch has made a forceful appeal for Arab unity, denouncing US policy in Iraq and the embargo imposed by western nations on the Palestinians.
At the Arab League summit in Riyadh, King Abdullah described the US presence in Iraq as an illegitimate occupation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/default.stm
Not reported by the BBC:
Secretary-General Ban’s attempt this week to marshal international help for Darfur victims suffered serious setbacks as an Arab League summit in Riyadh, as well as at the U.N.’s own Human Rights Council, declined to exert any pressure on Khartoum.
Mr. Ban, who visited the Arab League summit in Riyadh yesterday, told Arab heads of state that he expected support for a U.N. plan to send 20,000 troops to Darfur, where according to America, genocide is taking place.
The summit’s host, Saudi Arabia, mostly promoted issues such as a five-year-old plan for resolving the Palestinian Arab dispute with Israel, and the revival of a decades-old Arab military cooperation pact. Little interest was shown for Darfur. Another Arab League member, Egypt, declined earlier this week to join Mr. Ban in pressuring neighboring Sudan.
http://www.nysun.com/article/51417
archduke..
whats your beef with dubai..
its an awesome place…britain should have more policies like dubai,
there is more terrorists in bradford than dubai.
‘Alan:
Good to see Craig Murray and George Galloway getting plenty of flak for their predictable pro-Islamic Republic of Iran, anti-British line at Harry’s Place blog.
No doubt they will both be on Al Beeb, etc., soon.
Alan | 29.03.07 – 6:09 pm | # ‘
Not GGG; he’s taken TalkSport’s shilling.
there is more terrorists in bradford than dubai.
all your bases are belong to us.
The BBC, slavery and how it hates the west.
Slavery’s long effects on Africa
Between the 15th and 19th Centuries, it is estimated that up to 12m Africans were forced onto European slave ships and taken across the Atlantic. Two hundred years after the British parliament voted to abolish the trade, the effects on Africa are still being felt. Head to a village in northern Ghana or indeed many villages in West Africa and at times you might wonder what century you are in. Even though Ghana has achieved impressive growth rates in recent years, the scene in many rural areas appears to have changed little with grass thatched mud walled huts. There is often no electricity and yes, the water is collected in plastic containers these days but it is still quite an effort to fetch it. The Ghanaian historian and lawyer, Mohamed Shaibu Abdulai, says Africa’s loss of millions of the strongest men and women during the slave trade is one reason for this underdevelopment.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6504141.stm
What a load of Cods wallop BBC. Name me one African country which has progressed into the modern age via the sweat and tears of its own people. Every African country is beset by tribal rivalries. Rivalries which ensure that nepotism and not merit rules the day. This can be exemplified by every African country which kicked out the Whiteman reverting to the Stone Age because the ruling blacks couldn’t be asked to work for a living. Uganda, Rhodesia, Angola, Mozambique, Congo and West Africa were all in a healthier state than Europe when they gained their independence but in almost 50 years the only things that have come out of those countries is death and destruction and instead of telling the truth the BBC blames whitey.
Err BBC my Brother-in-law was kicked out of Kenya and the Blacks wondered why their trade balance figures took a dive. The fact of the matter BBC is that the architect of the current state of Africa is not a 200 year legacy but rather the penchant of African leaders to steal from their own rather than to work for a living.
Further to posts above, the reason for the lack of British interest in the Irish elections is because there is virtually no difference between the two political parties in the Republic, which is a mono-cultural state.
Or as Ulstermen would say, “they’re all the same.”
The BBC, its love of radical Islam and half a story;
Yet again the BBC parrots the line that Muslims can only be victims in Europe;
Can Germany learn to live with Islam?
Lale is 32 and wears a bright pink headscarf.
She studied law, but has had to take a job in a call-centre – where a woman with a headscarf can be heard but not seen. She would like a better job, she says, but many employers just don’t want to know. “It’s very difficult,” she told me. “You never really feel part of society. You feel alienated.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6506889.stm
Oh dear those poor Muslims living in Germany. Tell me BBC would Lale feel alienated if she was allowed to marry a white non Muslim. Would she feel alienated if she actually integrated into the German way of life?.
I have actually lived in Germany BBC, I did two tours 1984-1988 and 1991-1994. And I had no problem with the Germans. I joined a German judo club (They refused to allow me to pay as I was British) All my friends in Duesseldorf were students. I had friends in Duisburg who would invite me for meals. Hell I had German friends in Rattingen who had no problem with me or my skin colour. I went out of my way to speak German and they accepted me. Yes I met a few idiots who didn’t like me for my skin colour. But I experienced a lot less hatred than I did in Yorkshire. In otherwords BBC the Germans as a people had no problem with me. (Hell when I visited München the locals preferred me to the Yanks)
But hang on lets look at what else ails the so called Muslim victims in Germany according to the BBC.
“One sensitive question – says journalist Erkan Arikan, himself a second-generation German of Turkish descent – is about gay rights. “You’ve found your son is homosexual and he comes to you and says, ‘Dad, I want to marry a German homosexual guy’. So how do you react? “Do they expect that I will beat up my son, or do a kind of ‘honour’ killing? This is really ridiculous.”
Ridiculous BBC?A bunch of people which has no problem slitting the throats of their females (or shooting their sisters in the back of the head)for living like a German and the BBC promotes the image that a Muslim killing his son for bending over and receiving swollen goods as ridiculous. Oh how the BBC loves to cover up for Islam.
The BBC its love of Castro and its hatred of America.
Castro hits out at US biofuel use
Cuban President Fidel Castro has strongly criticised the use of biofuels by the US, in his first article since undergoing surgery last year. He said George W Bush’s support for the use of food crops in fuel production would cause 3bn deaths from hunger.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6505881.stm
So the BBC promotes the image that any attempt by the US to become environmentally friendly as a sham and that 3 billion people will die.
Err BBC how about substantiating that pathetic statement with a few facts.
I mean 3 billion people?
As usual the BBC promoting any story which lambastes the USA.
Bolton just popped up on C4 news – made a nice change from the hand-wringing of the pathetic Foreign Office.
Has Blair morphed into Jimmy Carter yet?
BioD
Those entries on the AJ (D)HYS are priceless – surely they can be used as evidence.
Archduke – thought you’d like to know John Bolton was in very fine form on C4 – running rings round Jon Snow on the Iran hostage taking, even teasing him with a rendition of “Negotiate Britannia, Britannia negotiates the waves…” A very necessary antidote to the Arabists of Chatham House, who think it’s ‘provocative’ to go to the UN.
Auntie’s strange fetish for Islam continues….
Religious Converts
“BBC News is interested in hearing from people who have converted from or to Islam. ”
I don’t think they have ever done this for any other religion – its either the first of a series or its a strange fetish.
“Further to posts above, the reason for the lack of British interest in the Irish elections is because there is virtually no difference between the two political parties in the Republic, which is a mono-cultural state.
redcar | 29.03.07 – 7:04 pm ”
yeah. at least we’ve got one up on the Irish. we’ve got three parties which are all the same.
sorry. couldnt resist.
Pastafarian Student punished for wearing religious garments:
http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/article.html?in_article_id=43272&in_page_id=2
somebody – quick. call a human rights lawyer and blanket 24hr coverage! oh and throw in a UN resolution or two.
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A student has been suspended from school in America for coming to class dressed as a pirate.
But the disciplinary action has provoked controversy • because the student says that the ban violates his rights, as the pirate costume is part of his religion.
Bryan Killian says that he follows the Pastafarian religion, and that as a crucial part of his faith, he must wear ‘full pirate regalia’ as prescribed in the holy texts of Pastafarianism.
Pastafarians follow the Flying Spaghetti Monster (pictured), and believe that the world was created by the touch of his noodly appendage. Furthermore, they acknowledge pirates as being ‘absolute divine beings’, and stress that the worldwide decline in the number of pirates has directly led to global warming.
decline in the number of pirates correlated to the increase in global temparatures
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pchart.jpg
therefore , in order to reduce global warming we have to increase the number of pirates. somebody should point this out to the Goracle.
unbelievable. the Home Office returned a Darfur refugee to … Sudan.
he ended up being tortured.
on c4 news now.
It is Irish Catholics, rather than their political parties, who are all the same.
Ethiopian Evangelist Beaten to Death by Militant Muslims: Militant Wahabbi Islamists Drag Christian Evangelist into Mosque and Beat Him to Death
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/194262642.html
“BBC News is interested in hearing from people who have converted from or to Islam. ”
I can just see the Beeb publishing the views of your average Islamic Apostate, they tend to be ever so slightly critcal.
” Anonymous | 29.03.07 – 8:06 pm ”
savages.
here’s hoping the Ethiopian Army gives them a taste of Somalia real soon, along with a side order of American AC-130
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC-130
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan
sidenote: how come i hear nothing of this on BBC news? and what about that Sept 2006 anti-Christian pogrom mentioned in that report?
thats news to me.
“It was only six months ago, in September of 2006, that Muslim extremists burned down a number of churches and parishes, as well as Christian homes. As many as 2,000 Christians were displaced by the attack, an attempt to intimidate Christians with the hopes of converting them to Islam.”
“It is Irish Catholics, rather than their political parties, who are all the same.
redcar | 29.03.07 – 7:50 pm”
thanks for correcting me. The Progressive Democrat voting Catholics are obviously so much similar to the Sinn Fein types.
its all a vast Protocols of Rome conspiracy. I’d say the Jews are behind it all. I blame them.
😉
‘BioD
Those entries on the AJ (D)HYS are priceless – surely they can be used as evidence.’
Oh good grief, there I was thinking it was people taking the p**s
Am I wrong?
I am sure that tonight’s question time will be packed out with Islamic lunatics screaming about wicked UK incursion into peaceful Iaranian waters.
My blood pressure prohibits me watching a re-run 0f QT circa 13/11/01. I know its a cheek but can someone watch for me and brief tomorrow.
staggering mind blowing fact of the day.
there’s an iranian consul in BASRA.
yeah. you read that right. Basra.
you know – where our troops are.
the stupidity of the Foreign Office knows no bounds.
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Iran_%27suspends%27_releasing_British_soldiers%3B_Shots_fired_near_Iranian_Consul_in_Basra%2C_Iraq
thankfully, it appears that our soldiers are taking a dim view of this, if this story is to be believed.
quote:
Shots have been reported to be fired at the Iranian Consul in Basra, Iraq, an incident in which Britain denies ever took place.
The Iranian Consul “said that British soldiers had surrounded [their] office in the southern city and fired shots into the air” calling the incident a “provocative act” and that the incident “could worsen the situation of the British sailors.”
Incitement material
Schoolbooks say ‘fighting Israel is Islamic duty’
Palestinian schoolchildren are being taught to hate Israel and to see fighting Israelis as a holy Islamic duty, according to a report by an Israeli media monitoring group.
New Palestinian 12th grade textbooks published last December deny Israel’s existence and teach 11-year-olds that the Palestinian struggle is part of an overall war between Muslims and their enemies, according to a Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) report entitled “From nationalist battle to religious conflict”.
More
Jihad for Allah
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/46645a42d444328a5f98c6b257232c1d.htm
“TPO | 29.03.07 – 8:51 pm”
i’ll do the honours. no probs. wife has come home from the supermarket with several bottles of finest red.
essential for lowering the blood pressure when watching QT.
“TPO | 29.03.07 – 8:51 pm”
I think the other topic (being as though the church are on the panel) will be slavery and how we should all feel guilty.
On a similar topic, I remember from history some bishop slaying thousands of serfs (in Norwich I think) to keep the king happy. I can’t find anything on the internet about this. Does somebody out there know anything about this event?
I have just read a comment from an American who was just watching BBC World and he was shock that the BBC kept giving Iran’s “assurance” about the Territorial location of the abduction equal merit to that of the British tangible proof shown yesterday by the MOD.
He says: “you guys are forced to pay for the BBC? I can not believe what I am watching on BBC World. No wonder you guys are messed up big time.
As far as I am concerned, UK is not a reliable ally of US anymore and US should go it alone from here on because the British are baggage,
No shame of being Gary Cooper at High Noon”
I have got rid of my TV 16 years ago because I refused to subside such an unpatriotic bunch of loony lefty.
And I am Italian.
South Park does 24.
http://www.southparkzone.com/episode.php?vid=1104
Genius.
archduke, jimbob
Many thanks… I’m off to a dark room now to lie down and take my tranquilisers….. like archduke its red wine, trouble is I start to shout at the CRT if its on. I know they can’t hear me but I still do it.
PS site owners … PLEEEEEEEASE can we have a new thread !!!!!!!!!!
Fox News is showing more pro-British support than we get from Al Beeb.
Also, Fox News is not stifling debate on its news channel about what should be done about the 15 UK prisoners of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The US discussion does not stop short at economic sanctions.
The BBC and half a story;
UK presses UN over Iran sailors
Iran said it has delayed the release of the only woman among the crew because of the UK’s “incorrect attitude”.
………………………………….
But on Thursday, Ali Larijani, Iran’s chief nuclear negotiator, said the release of LS Turney – which had been widely expected – had been delayed.
He talked about the UK’s “incorrect attitude”, which appeared to refer to the UK’s refusal to agree the crew had been in Iranian waters.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6508039.stm
So according to the BBC they have delayed releasing our sailors because of our incorrect attitude. With the BBC pointing the finger at the Uks refusal to agree to the Iranian line that these sailors were in Iranian waters.
And here is what the Iranians actually said;
“Initially, Ali Larijani, the secretary of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, had indicated she might still be freed if Britain retreated from its intention to seek United Nations backing. He said that “if we are faced with a fuss and wrong behavior,” Turney’s release “would be suspended and it would not take place.”
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/29/news/iran.php
So according to Ali Larijani, the female sailor has been held back because Britain went to the UN and complained about this hostage crisis.
Now I wonder why the BBC isn’t reporting that Line. I mean they have no problem reporting the rest of what he had to say.
Any of you BBC merchant Bankers wish to inform me why?
My blood pressure prohibits me watching a re-run 0f QT circa 13/11/01. I know its a cheek but can someone watch for me and brief tomorrow.
TPO | 29.03.07 – 8:51 pm | #
Sorry TPO – not me – I would end up throwing something at the telly – and get slayed alive by the wife as she would miss the trial of Tracy Barlow on Friday.
Ethiopian Evangelist Beaten to Death by Militant Muslims: Militant Wahabbi Islamists Drag Christian Evangelist into Mosque and Beat Him to Death
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/194262642.html
Sadly, this is a fairly common occurence in places that are dominated by Muslims.
Here’s a photo of Muslims beating to death a Hindu after dragging him into a mosque:
http://www.coranix.com/beasty/6e3ed324.jpg
hugh hewitt in the u.s. is talking about the iran crisis, with frank gafney, newt gingrich and more in his latest episode.
here’s the podcast feed:
http://www.townhall.com/talkradio/podcasts/4e30b10c-64d4-4d39-b459-81a5039c6c55.aspx
This one’s got everything – a Tory councillor blacks up as Nelson Mandela at a Jewish festival party. We have already been warned at the beginning of the 10:00 BBC 1 News that the London local news was gearing itself up to deal with this: Matt Barbett looked very very serious indeed – and on the anniversary of the 1807 abolition of the slave trade too – what could be worse?
Surely the BBC could do something more dramatic – perhaps a “debate” on HYS to be launched with “does this behaviour deserve a pogrom or must we just make do with the councillor’s resignation? Your views please”
Looks like the website hosting the South Park link has exceeded its bandwidth. If you want to see it (and I recommend you do) you can catch it at YouTube if you’re quick. Here’s the first part:
Find the rest of it on the “More From This User” link.
qt line up
hazel blears (labour)
sayeeda warsi (tory)
george carey (bleeding heart archbishop)
yvonne thompson (token black person? never heard of her)
and… drumroll
nigel farage
yvonne thompson is a strange one.
the bio on QT says:
Yvonne is one of the UK’s top business women, and president of the European Federation of Black Women Business Owners.
and theres me thinking that we’ve banished racism for good.
but there’s no hint as to what business she actually runs. like the name of the company or something like that?
and it goes on
She also sits on the boards of a number of business organisations including Business Link for London and the Department of Trade and Industry’s Small Business Council, and chairs the DTI’s Ethnic Minority Business Forum and the African Caribbean Business Network.
hmmm… sucking at the teat of the taxpayer perhaps? ah – perfect bbc material so.
and wikipedia only has a single sentence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Thompson
“Yvonne Thompson is a member of the board of the London Development Agency.”
odd. very odd.
QT: iran. nobody is mentioning the using the threat of using Trident to turn Tehran into a sea of radioactive glass.
why do the political classes seem to forget that we have a nuclear detterrent? Somehow, i dont think the French would be mouthing platitudes if it was THEIR sailors that were captured. Or the Americans… least of all the Russians. actually, if it was the Russians, the Iranian ambassador would by now be flown home in a wooden box
Oh God. Only seconds in, and the usual smug, smirking anti-Americanism on QT. It’s sort of like a code, isn’t it? Say “American” in a certain tone of voice, and out come the smirks. These people are truly appalling bigots.
Breaking – UN takes 4 hours to come up with 3 feeble lines of text expressing “concern” over the hostage situation.
Former ambassador Richard Dalton and Pirouz Mojtahedzadeh are both on Newsnight at the moment (their umpteenth appearance on the BBC over the past few days) both slagging off the British for being too aggressive.
Nigel Farage : we shouldnt have been there in the first place
Hazel Blears: we should go to the UN
Nigel Farage: so what has the EU done so far? (answer: bugger all)
” Anonanon | 29.03.07 – 10:54 pm”
as mentioned above, we’re just baggage to the Americans. you can bet your bottom dollar that a much stronger condemnation would have come if the Americans felt the need to put pressure on the UN. obviously thats not happened – which says a lot.
the Americans have a dread of being “Jimmy Carterized” yet again – indirectly via the British – hence the distancing.