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Jordan, PA arrest 2 Palestinians for selling Hebron house to Jews
This explains why the Jews insisted they had bought the house legally but the original owners denied this out of fear of the consequences.
Palestinian laws call for a death sentence for anyone found guilty of selling land to Jews.
Such nice people, let’s give them a state!
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“archduke:
just overheard something on radio 4.
because there are a dispropornate number of black people in the mental health system, therefore there is “institutional racism”.
of course, the usage of cannibis was not mentioned.
archduke | 31.03.07 – 1:11 pm | #
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FOOK!
So you reckon all the Rastas are driving themselves mad with pot smoke? Getting their energy up to go muggin’?
The mental health system is not racist in the way police officers are i.e. They sit in their staffrooms scoffing doughnuts and talking about how much they hate the ETHNICS with THEIR MONGOLIAN EYES. (see Forest Gate shooting)
It is perhaps more racist in its stigmatising of its own service users. For example, because Schizophrenia is viewed as an organic brain disease with endogenous genetic causes, anybody who exhibits strange behaviour and holds paranoid strange beliefs must be physically sick, and not exhibiting the odd behaviour that comes from constantly suspecting other people are secretly racist and hate you.
Put more simply, Afro Carribeans have the same rate for schizophrenia as any other country – 1 in a 100, but when they are transplanted into Britain, it increases to about 2-3 in a hundred. It’s not that they really arn’t exhibiting the classic signs of mental illness, they are, but the causes are attributed to the brain, and not to that persons contingent relations with other people.
Read R.D. Laing and his ‘false-front’ theory of psychosis.
As for the BBC report, it did it’s best to spin the crappy psychiatric services of the NHS into some racist behemoth, but really it’s just business as usual. A lot of psychiatric wards resemble prison camps rather than hospitals.
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Anon @ 2.39pm
I think the answer is that most (all) SKY/ITV meeja types have worked or will work for the IBC at one time or another and vice versa. Why would they make a fuss?
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Some very unhappy headlines for Gordon Brown today, as The Times leads with a scoop :
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/pensions/article1593939.ece
Pension timebomb • Brown defied advice
Gordon Brown defied repeated warnings from his own officials about the potentially devastating impact of his £5 billion-a-year raid on pension funds and went ahead with it regardless, The Times can reveal. Pensions campaigners described the revelations — the result of a two year battle by The Times — as an absolute disgrace, and said that it showed the Chancellor “knowingly set about destroying” Britain’s pensions system.
The rest of the “right wing” press piles in :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445792&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Brown defied £5bn pension warning
Gordon Brown ignored repeated warnings that a tax raid on pension funds – one of his first moves in office – would cost savers billions of pounds a year. Newly- released documents show that the Chancellor was told his money-raising scheme would hurt the poor and damage the savings industry.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=UBBR0OWBWHRFXQFIQMFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2007/03/31/nbrown31.xml
Brown’s pension grab secret is revealed
Gordon Brown was warned explicitly that he would cause the death of the final salary pension scheme and cost companies and individuals billions of pounds when he took the knife to the pension system in his first Budget.
Et tu Graune ? Even the Guardian headlines Gordon Brown defying pension warnings :
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/economics/story/0,,2047198,00.html
Brown defied warnings over pension tax relief
Gordon Brown was warned by officials that he risked long term damage to Britain’s occupational pensions industry when he pressed ahead with a £5bn a year cut in tax relief in his first budget.
Poor Gordon.
Is there nowhere that a socialist Chancellor can get a friendly headline ? Has he no one to whom he can turn to parrot Treasury spin ? Is he entirely without friends ?
It seems he is not. With bonecrushing predictability, Auntie leads with the defence :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6512999.stm
Treasury rejects attack on Brown
The Treasury has dismissed as “abject nonsense” claims that Gordon Brown ignored warnings about his first Budget creating a £75bn gap in pension funds.
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“Jordan, PA arrest 2 Palestinians for selling Hebron house to Jews”
Biodegradable wrote:
“This explains why the Jews insisted they had bought the house legally but the original owners denied this out of fear of the consequences.”
And here’s how the IBC reported the ‘story’:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6470375.stm
And there was a stealth edit – the original title was ‘Settlers in Hebron unbearable’ – later changed to ‘Settlers make Hebron unbearable’
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Quebec just had an election.
not that you’d find out about that from the BBC America page:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/default.stm
hint: liberal party got thrashed by the conservatives because the lib party leader is a gay cokehead. no, i’m not kidding…
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“Husband kills wife’s lover; wife charged”
http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/30/texas.manslaughter.ap/index.html
* Caught with lover, wife cries rape; husband shoots fleeing man
* Grand jury charges woman with manslaughter
* Texas law exonerates those who believe actions are justified at time
* Wife also charged with making false report to police
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Don`t you just love Socialism..hardly a day passes without G.Brown telling us we are not saving enough for our pensions..
Lee Moore | 31.03.07 – 3:43 pm
“Brown defied £5bn pension warning”
“Gordon Brown ignored repeated warnings that a tax raid on pension funds – one of his first moves in office – would cost savers billions of pounds a year. Newly- released documents show that the Chancellor was told his money-raising scheme would hurt the poor and damage the savings industry”… Socialism = Humiliating Poverty in your old age..
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Such a peaceful religion.
Barbarism in action.
U.S. Says Al-Qaeda Using Chlorine Gas Against Civilians In Iraq
Baghdad, Iraq (AHN) – The U.S. Department of Defense says local police intercepted a truck carrying 5,000 gallons of chlorine and 2 tons of explosives in Ramadi which would have been used against innocent civilians in Iraq.
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7006906339
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I’m in the process of writing a strongly worded letter of complaint to the BBC about Marcus Brigstock’s rant.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/nowshow.shtml
I suggest that everybody download and listen.
Apart from the fact is utterly stupid and illogical, there is the issue of timing.
Simply unbelievable.
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Another giveaway (amongst many) on the AJ tribute site:
I’m sure wherever Alan is, he’s being treated well as befits a reporter for the Palestinian cause and he will be released unharmed eventually.
E Mily, NYC, United States
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bury bad news
Veil row assistant loses appeal
Where can we hide this?
here!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/6511393.stm
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Socialism = Youthanasia
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So, the protest at the iranian embassy has to have been well underway for at least an hour, now. Has the BBC covered it?
Have they fug.
When smaller groups protest against anything the UK does, the BBC are there in force hours before the event starts so they can get the best possible angle of all those hate-filled faces, live as it happens, yet a well publicised protest against a BBC Prefered Cultural Group gets nothing… I don’t know. Maybe they’ll put something on the midnight news bulleting on Radio Hampshire.
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Ultraviolence writes:
“Read R.D. Laing and his ‘false-front’ theory of psychosis.”
Thank you, but Laing (along with Szasz et al) can be regarded as having been at the forefront of one of the biggest wrong-turnings taken by psychiatry in the 20th Century.
While your claim that cultural influences play a part in the mis-diagnosis of some mental illness is, no doubt, true, to suggest that is all that is at work is just plain silly.
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stuck record writes:
“Apart from the fact is utterly stupid and illogical, there is the issue of timing.
Simply unbelievable.”
Brigstocke is, of a wholly vile breed, absolutely the worst example.
Which is why, no doubt, R4 has been trying very hard to turn him into some sort of star.
The amazing thing is that however much the BBC promotes idiots like Hardy, Steel, Brigstocke and the rest, there are still some idiots who believe it is not institutionally biased.
What they mean, of course, is that the Corporation’s bias is entirely congruent with their own, so they are perfectly happy with it.
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And there was a stealth edit – the original title was ‘Settlers in Hebron unbearable’ – later changed to ‘Settlers make Hebron unbearable’
Oscar | 31.03.07 – 3:57 pm
I remember that. I wish Shimon Peres would just shut up, he must know the BBC and others like them are just waiting for juicy anti-Israel quotes.
Although to be fair the BBC misquote him for their own nefarious ends.
Israel’s deputy prime minister has said the presence of Jewish settlers inside the West Bank city of Hebron has created an “unbearable situation”.
Shimon Peres’ comments come a day after settlers took over a building in Hebron, claiming to have bought it.
A local Palestinian family has disputed this claim, saying they had purchased the property.
Mr Peres said that the settlers should be evicted if it is proved that they have acted unlawfully.
Now we know that the ‘settlers’ (ie: Israeli Jews in historic Judea and Samaria – take note Andy Tedd and John Reith) have legally bought the property.
No mention of how ‘unbearable’ it must be for “Palestinians” who face a death sentence for merely selling ‘their’ land to Jews.
Like I said, I’m sure things would be different if only the “Palestinians” had their own state. (NOT)
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stuck record:
Brigstocke is a silly prat who thinks his recieved lefty prejudices are funny.
http://www.marcusbrigstocke.co.uk/radio.asp
Look who he works for – no need to bite the hand that feeds
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OT but worrying item on US Mypetjawa site.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/187197.php
It appears that the exiled Omar Bakri Mohammed’s boys are now operating a jihad website from Birmingham Central Mosque.
I believe MI5 have been informed
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Marcus Brigstock’s rant
Absolutely disgraceful!
How must the families feel if they had the misfortune to hear that?
(Did you notice he says the 15 were arrested ‘off the Iranian coast’?
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“London, Mar. 31 • Iran’s main opposition movement, the National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), said on Saturday that Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) had planned the recent capture of 15 British marines and naval personnel and are holding the group in an effort to gain concessions from the West.”
“Taking British sailors as hostages is part of the religious fascism’s policy of exporting terrorism and fundamentalism”.
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=10666
Never saw this on the BBC
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via jawa report link above:
islamist channel on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=islambase
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“GCooper | 31.03.07 – 6:23 pm ”
ever notice that Al Murray “the pub landlord” is on ITV and not BBC….
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Jon.
Excellent point, and excellent reference to Iranian political opposition.
While Al Beeb gives plenty of propaganda air-time to Iranian pundits who do not criticise Ahmadinejihad, Al Beeb does not emphasise the importance of the Iranian opposition.
And the Iranian political opposition wants:
1.) UK and allies to sever diplomatic contact with regime, and to impose economic sanctions;
2.)political freedom inside Iran.
Al Beeb and the UK government should be more guided by this approach than by dhimmitude.
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A Must watch Video
“Iranian Goverment Regime Liar Evil Kidnapper Hostage Crisis”
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The BBC and half a story;
Mental health ‘apartheid’ warning
A senior monitor of mental health patients’ interests has warned of “a kind of apartheid” in the system. Lord Patel of Bradford, chairman of the Mental Health Act Commission, told the BBC that institutional racism in the service needed to be addressed.
…………………….
Lord Patel said it had to be established why there was an over-representation of black people in psychiatric care.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6512915.stm
The BBC again is more than happy to play the victim card for anybody who isn’t white living in the UK. Yet for some strange reason remains very quiet on the over-representation of black people in the Uk who like to kill for kicks.
Why BBC even today you have a story of a Black woman who jealous of her friend had her killed so she could have her money. Killed by 2 other blacks.
Maybe Lord Patel could also bitch about the over-representation of Muslims in British Prisons. (10% of the British prison population is Muslim. While they represent 2 % of the population)
On that note Lord Patel I’ve heard that Pakistan has given up on Cricket. Yup I’ve heard they are now into Bobsleighing.
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the useless United Nations , part 1245
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=24959_UN_Human_Rights_Council_Kowtows_to_Islam#comments
“UN Human rights council kowtows to Islam”
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Palestinian boycott over BBC man
Palestinian journalists are being urged to stop covering government activities following the apparent abduction of the BBC’s Gaza reporter Alan Johnston.
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During the boycott, the union leader said no Palestinian media outlet would cover stories on the activities of the presidency or the new unity government.
Do you think anyone will notice?
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This is, word for word, the entirety of the news section on the Iran situation as per the news on BBC Radio 1 at 10.30am this morning (Saturday 31/3). [What can I say, Vernon Kay is entertaining]
Anyway, here’s what was said. I mean read from the pre-written (by who?) script.
“America [ha]s refused to give back five Iranians they’ve captured, it was one idea being talked about to try to help free the 15 British sailors being held by Iran. The US claims their hostages were helping to supply equipment to Iraqi rebels.”
And that’s it.
I don’t listen to radio 1 for the news, so I’m used to their appalling superficial, anti-American, dumbed down & oh so concise left bias (they’ve got ‘the youth’ to indoctrinate after all), but what the hell does it say in the BBC Radio 1 dictionary under “hostages”? What are America’s demands for the release of these five?
recording available at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/vernonkay/ (the Saturday show, 30 minutes in)
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Biodegradable | 31.03.07 – 9:01 pm,
I think they are having a little tug of war on the main HYS page over the Johnston topic.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/default.stm
The topic title keeps being replaced by a cricket topic and then coming back on again. Weird.
The US claims their hostages were helping to supply equipment to Iraqi rebels
This is the kind of statement that maks me wonder whether it’s just gross BBC ignorance of the English language or a deliberate attempt to put American actions on a par with those of hostage-taking terrorist states like Iran. Probably a mix of both, but I lean towards the latter.
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Palestinian boycott over BBC man
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6514551.stm
Not holding my breath for a Paleosimian boycott for Cpl Gilad Shalit.
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Ronbin writes:
“…but what the hell does it say in the BBC Radio 1 dictionary under “hostages”? What are America’s demands for the release of these five?”
That’s absolutely outrageous!
It’s this sort of daily seepage of lies and disinformation by the BBC that leads to the sort of drivel posted by yoof on (D)HYS and the like.
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“The US claims their hostages were helping to supply equipment to Iraqi rebels”
interesting. Our troops are just “captives” or just being “held”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6514567.stm
“for refusing to apologise for the Royal Navy captives crisis.”
“Mr Ahmadinejad insisted the captured personnel ”
“… from Leicester are among those being held by Iran”
“The Britons, based on HMS Cornwall, were seized by Revolutionary Guards”
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“Do you think anyone will notice?
Biodegradable | 31.03.07 – 9:01 pm ”
i would. no Pallywood whatsoever in the news? fantastic idea.
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if you think you’ve read it all about the savagery of the Islamofascists in Iraq
well , think again.
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/features_opinion/iraq.html
(warning: you must have a strong stomach for this one…no pictures. its just in text…)
and this one:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/march07/christians.htm
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something that was overlooked (or rather ignored) by the BBC when they reported on the “2 million iraqi refugees” story
from that catholic herald link:
“the latest report by the UN High Commissioner for Refugees estimates that two million Iraqis have fled since the invasion, and almost a third of these are Assyrian • who are down from 1.4 million in Saddam’s Iraq to fewer than 500,000 today.”
Assyrians are Christians…
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Anybody notice the start of Match of the day.
Gary lineker was waxing lyrical about the wonderful English performance these past few days.(I wonder why?) Which is strange as the FA have stated that the reason the BBC lost the rights to the FA cup is because the BBC are very much anti ENGLAND.
“Criticism of the England team from BBC pundits Gary Lineker and Alan Hansen played an important part in the Football Association’s decision to dump them and instead award their television rights to ITV and Setanta in a £425 million deal, it emerged last night. According to sources, the FA felt the BBC’s coverage of the national team, both under present coach Steve McClaren and his predecessor, Sven-Goran Eriksson, was bordering on a “campaign”.The issue was raised with Match of the Day presenter Lineker at a last-ditch presentation to FA officials at Television Centre on Monday, as the BBC and Sky tried to save the deal.Having already been outbid by ITV and Setanta, the presentation was the BBC’s last attempt to persuade the FA to stick with their long-term partners.It is understood Lineker was told by a senior FA official that there was serious concern inside Soho Square that the BBC’s reporting of the England team was “not as positive as it should be”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/03/31/sfnfro31.xml
Don’t worry Al-Beeb you can always air the Iranian football matches and at half time while a mullah uses big ears to hold onto as he gets a BJ The BBC can show the daily stoning.
Allah be praised.
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How the un-biased BBC reports the news for its Islamic masters
“BBC diplomatic correspondent James Robbins said although their was no sign of a major diplomatic breakthrough in the crisis, there was now a sense of dialogue between the two countries. Both sides appeared to be “lowering the temperature”, he added.”
That snippet was taken from the front page BBC article which begins;
Iran leader attacks ‘arrogant’ UK
Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has condemned the UK as “arrogant and selfish” for refusing to apologise for the Royal Navy captives crisis.
He insisted that “British occupier forces” trespassed into Iranian waters and that his country’s border guards had displayed “skill and bravery”. Meanwhile, Iranian diplomat Gholamreza Ansari said “legal process” had begun against the 15 British personnel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6514567.stm
Err James Old chap could you be so kind as to define;
“lowering the temperature” and “there was now a sense of dialogue between the two countries”
Because from the above Pro Tehran propaganda piece. It appears that the temperature is rising albeit from only one direction.
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The BBC and half a story;
Iran releases new ‘Turney letter’
Iran has released a second letter apparently written by the only female member of the 15-strong Royal Navy crew it captured in the Gulf. The letter, apparently signed by Leading Seaman Faye Turney, says she is being treated “well and humanely”. It adds: “Isn’t it time for us to start withdrawing our forces from Iraq and let them determine their own future?”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6508039.stm
Oh how the BBC does as its masters in Tehran demands and ensures the Great British public are informed of the literary regret express by Leading Seaman Faye Turney.
But what the BBC don’t do is inform you of the whole letter or for that matter how it starts. Here is the whole letter as handed over by the Mullahs in iran. I’ll let you make you own mind up who wrote it;
To British People,
I am writing to you as a British service person who has been sent to Iraq, sacrificed due to the intervening policies of the Bush and Blair governments.
We were arrested after entering Iranian waters by the Iranian forces. For this I am deeply sorry. I understand that this has caused even more distrust for the people of Iran, and the whole area of the British.
The Iranian people treated me well and have proved themselves to be caring, compassionate, hospitable, and friendly.
For this I am thankful. I believe that for our countries to move forward, we need to start withdrawing our forces from Iraq, and leave the people of Iraq to start rebuilding their lives.
I have written a letter to the people of Iran apologizing for our actions. Whereas we hear and see on the news the way prisoners were treated in Abu Ghrayb and other Iraqi jails by the British and American personnel, I have received total respect and faced no harm.
It is now our time to ask our government to make a change to its oppressive behavior towards other people.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/30/nletter130.xml#a
I mean the BBC has no problem airing in full any letter written by a Muslim terrorist.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3706050.stm
Yet a British sailor, nah not on your nelly.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/north_yorkshire/6509241.stm
The BBC’s Paul Hudson states:
“Not only the fact that Harrogate is at the top of the carbon league table, but also there are still lots of people who remain unconvinced about the climate change arguments. It shows there’s still a long way to go.”
A long way to go to achieve what? Convince the public of an unproven scientific opinion, to fit the BBC’s political agenda?
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Al Beeb, News 24 tv has just given ANOTHER Iranian apologist for AhmadineJIHAD, several minutes’ propaganda time to tell we British dhimmis what we have done wrong.
WHEN WILL YOU STOP DOING THIS, AL BEEB?. NO MORE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC AIRTIME ON OUR PUBLICLY OWNED AND FINANCED BROADCASTER.
STOP PLAYING THE DHIMMI!
COME ON, YOU COMPLACENT TRAITORS!
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As I have suspected for a while the BBC are not even British:
“Before the release of the second letter Prime Minister Tony Blair said Iran’s decision to show footage of LS Turney was a “disgrace”.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6508039.stm
“Prime Minister Tony Blair” – is this for ignorant people who do not know who the Prime Minister is? Or, as is more likely, the words of a foreigner.
British people would say “Tony Blair” or “the Prime Minister”
And before people say that this is for foreign consumption – it is taken from the UK version.
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“Iran has used two of the prisoners to make confessions on television that they entered Iranian waters illegally but also to state that they were being well treated. Iran has therefore projected itself as the injured party, one that is correct to demand an apology but also one that is treating its prisoners well.”
“It has also used the willingness of some at least of the captives to talk to call for the US and UK to withdraw from Iraq and to stop its “intervening policies”, as one of the letters from Faye Turney put it.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6502947.stm
This is from a piece by Paul Reynolds on the “Propaganda War”.
Is he suggesting here that the hostages were “willing” to talk about the withdrawal of US and British troops from Iraq? Reading this paragraph again – it even seems that “some” of the “captives” are actually volunteering to state that they want the US and the UK to withdraw from Iraq.
There is no hint in the piece that the captives could have been forced to say this.
The propaganda war is not between Britain and Iran – it is between Britain and the BBC.
I am absolutely appalled.
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american high school student discredits the Goracle
http://home.earthlink.net/%7Eponderthemaunder/index.html
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Ther BBC’s history of aiding the enemy.
In the Falklands War.
“The BBC did indeed broadcast news of the pending attack on Goose Green. As a consequence the Argentines heavily reinforced their garrison. The BBC denied it, of course, but I was in the South Atlantic at the time, and remember considering it a stupid thing to give such prior warning to the enemy.”
Suez:
“As a veteran of the Suez campaign I well remember the hystria stirred-up by the BBC. Those of us who were ‘out there’ never forgot the nonsense espousd by Auntie. It is a shame that Eden did not have the courage of his convictions. This so-called disaster presaged a number of other upsets in the Middle East namely the events in Iraq, Iran, Aden, etc. all reported with glee by the Beeb.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/03/14/do1403.xml
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” pounce | 31.03.07 – 10:49 pm ”
i have noticed that alright. the F.A. were bang on. that constant moaning has a affect on players morale. a bit more leeway for mistakes and bit more encouragement would be welcome.
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archduke – nice link – Notice this:
“”… new high-resolution studies show that at times of cold to warm transitions, temperature changes come first, leading CO2 changes by several centuries (Mudelsee, 2001; Clark, 2003; Vakulenko et al., 2004). If so, the Co2 levels would be response to, and not a cause of, the change in temperature (climate). CO2 may then serve as a temperature amplifier, but not as the climate driver.”
This was the major theme on the “Great Global Warming Swindle”
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” Jon | 01.04.07 – 12:35 am ”
privatisation is the only answer. its gone on for far too long.
if folks dont like the output they turn over – and advertising revenue goes down. simple equation really.
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“Jon | 01.04.07 – 12:41 am”
when an american high school student can pick apart the arguments , then you know that something is seriously wrong with the global warming crowds hysteria.
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” Jon | 01.04.07 – 12:04 am”
that is odd alright. American media just refer to “The President”, or “President Bush” or just “Bush” (although thats in later paragraphs – the lead-in has the word President in it usually)
no mention of the George W bit, as its assumed that everyone knows who the president is.
have a look here:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2998159
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