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  1. Block 813 says:

    Surely, an “Extremist” is someone/anyone who speaks in absolutes…whatever they are talking about.

    Which makes the BBC the biggest piece of shite extremist on the planet.

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  2. archduke says:

    ” pounce | 10.04.07 – 10:37 pm ”
    i’m on your side pounce, but when i see videos like this, i start having doubts.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=25075_Inappropriate_Hostage_Behavior_Watch#comments

    its that nagging “bad taste in the mouth but i cant really put my finger on it, but i support the forces…” kinda feeling…

    then again – maybe the iranian propaganda *has* been effective in sowing doubt in our minds on the effectiveness of our armed forces.

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  3. Allan@Aberdeen says:

    Pounce wrote, on the subject of the frightened fifteen:

    “Half the idiots who bitch our brave servicemen, have no problem doing so from the comfort of the LCD screen and wireless keyboard. Spend a minute in their shoes.”

    The problem with that is that the people who are critical of our military in this instance, may not be in the military themselves but would at least expect those who are in the armed services to behave with the responsibility which goes with the job.

    I sit in my comfortable chair in front of my computer and I am critical of the conduct of those who facilitated the capture of our servicemen, and also of the behaviour of our servicemen both before and after their release.

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  4. Purple Scorpion says:

    More BBC bias. This time it was tonight’s BBC1 10 o’clock “news”. Foster parents get weekly payments from government. Astonishingly, grandparents don’t. The BBC report showcased a hard-up grandparent, and then a prosperous looking official who said he couldn’t see why grandparents shouldn’t be paid like foster parents.

    I’ll tell you why, matey (though the BBC couldn’t find time). Because there isn’t a bottomless pot of fairy gold waiting to be doled out to grateful grannies. Because the money would come from parents of other children.

    Cut at the end to Huw Edwards with furrowed brow. “If you are a grandparent and want to comment, you can go to bbc.co.uk/haveyoursay”. And what if I’m a mere taxpayer and licence fee payer, Huw in your expensive suit which I paid for?

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  5. GCooper says:

    Bryan writes:

    “She was talking to John Williams, former director of communications at the Foreign Office, and asked him what he thought European governments would make of some frank, anti-Iranian comments by John Bolton.”

    I’ve been so steamed-up about this loathsome, arrogant piece of work that I have had to force myself not to post about him before now. Sadly, he seems to have been on a personal PR campaign all weekend, being wheeled from one BBC studio to another to spout the same fawning, craven, grovelling nonsense to any BBC hack willing to give him air time.

    The Williams line is pure appeasement and on the rare occasion it has been pointed out to him that all it has achieved has been to leave Iran laughing behind its hand as it gets ever-closer to being able to make a nuclear weapon, he has gasped like some scandalised Victorian maiden aunt at the alternative, which is to take action .

    What is particularly depressing is that this miserable fool of a ZaNuLabour apparatchik is being interviewed at all. He is not, nor has he ever been, elected by anyone. He is a spin doctor. He is a dog, barking to fill the silence left because his masters (EU officials and government hacks) are too embarrassed and scared to be interviewed. His vacuous opinions are of no importance at all, save to give us an insight into the empty head of his former master, Jack Straw (himself a man of almost unimaginable worthlessness).

    Williams and his air-headed band of smug cowards have brought us several steps closer to a nuclear war. The policies he is pimping have failed. If he is on air at all, it should be with his head bowed as he apologises to the world for his utter, irredeemable stupidity.

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  6. Jon says:

    Sorry to keep harping on about GW but I’ve been trying to find those elusive 2,500 scientists who wrote the IPCC report on climate change – I think I might have found them, as you may have guessed, the figure is actually slightly lower than 2,500:

    “The narrowness of the IPCC process can be documented by the own words of the 21 scientists (yes- just 21 out of the broad community of climate scientists) who led the writing of the IPCC SPM. As written in the March 24, 2007 issue of New Scientist by

    Piers Forster, University of Leeds, UK
    Richard Somerville, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, San Diego, California, US
    Nathan Bindoff, ACE CRC, CSIRO MAR and University of Tasmania, Hobart, Australia
    Guy Brasseur, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado, US
    Jens Christensen, Danish Climate Centre, Copenhagen, Denmark
    Ken Denman, Fisheries and Oceans Canada, University of Victoria
    Gabi Hegerl, Duke University, Durham, North Carolina, US
    Bruce Hewitson, University of Cape Town, South Africa
    Eystein Jansen, Bjerknes Centre for Climate Research, Bergen, Norway
    Philip Jones, University of East Anglia, Norwich, UK
    Peter Lemke, Alfred Wegener Institute for Polar and Marine Research, Bremerhaven, Germany
    Gerald Meehl, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado, US
    Jonathan Overpeck, University of Arizona, Tucson, US
    V. Ramaswamy, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, Princeton, New Jersey, US
    David Randall, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, US
    Thomas Stocker, University of Bern, Switzerland
    Kevin Trenberth, National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado, US
    Hervé Le Treut, National Centre of Scientific Research, Paris, and École Polytechnique, Palaiseau, France
    Jürgen Willebrand, Leibniz Institute for Marine Sciences, Kiel, Germany
    Richard Wood, Met Office, Exeter, UK
    Francis Zwiers, Environment Canada, Toronto

    [excerpts from the article written by the 21 scientists state,

    “According to established IPCC procedure this report went through several formal and fully documented expert and government review processes, where many thousands of comments were responded to. It assessed the peer-reviewed literature published prior to July 2006. At all stages, including at the final plenary in Paris, the authors had control over the text; all CLAs were present in Paris.”

    This statement means that the 21 scientists were able to chose what to include in the IPCC SPM and what to exclude. They can ignore peer reviewed results as part of their assessment. The 21 scientists listed above do not represent a cross-section of views of the human role in climate change. ”

    http://climatesci.colorado.edu/

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  7. Ultraviolence says:

    “”extremist””

    An extremist talks in absolutes.

    As far as the nihilistic leftist (generally) is concerned all values are false and knows that there is nothing worth fighting over.

    On the train once I listened to some gap year suburbanite retards complain that ‘the whole world has gone mad’ and then giggle. What could possibly be worth fighting over?

    Moderate of course means peaceful, pious and inoffensive. Suburbia.

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  8. archduke says:

    but inoffensive suburbia is precisely what the American soldiers in Iraq are fighting for.

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  9. archduke says:

    ” GCooper | 11.04.07 – 12:17 am |”

    history will be kind to Bolton. however the likes of Williams will be firmly put into the Chamberlain camp.

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  10. archduke says:

    “Sorry to keep harping on about GW”
    no need to feel sorry about exposing the global fraud that is MMGW. keep harping on about it…

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  11. archduke says:

    “be nice to america or we’ll bring democracy to your country”

    http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/dont-mess-with-america/

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  12. TAM4 says:

    There is nothing incorrect about applying the term extremist to Bolton. As long as Bolton continues in his role of apologist for the terrorist regimes of the U.S. and Israel, the cap fits, if he is the acceptable face of the neo-con Zionists, oil and arms company profiteers in government in Washinton then we are in deep trouble if they ever let loose the bad guys.

    Nothing from the whole cabal has the ring of truth Rice refers to ‘a bombing in Lebanon this morning’ referring to the U.S. backed Israeli air strikes upon a bomb shelter packed with children, disingenuously ignoring the fact that the bombing was carried out by Israel using U.S. supplied munitions and aircraft and with U.S. government encouragement and license, she herself was in part responsible for that bombing and the other hundreds of lives lost.

    Bolton sneeringly belittles Britains involvement in the diplomacy that took place, secure in the knowledge that the British governments position was to unashamedly side with the U.S. and Israel’s destruction of infrastructure and taking of Lebanese lives.

    French involvement was justified as resulting from French ‘historic interest’ in the region, how much greater is this French interest than Britains ‘historic interest’ in the region and responsibility for allowing the Zionist squatters in Palestine to terrorise all the neighbouring countries and people. In that case if ‘historic interest’ is the guiding principle then it should have been Britain representing the Palestinians and Hezbollah and France representing Lebanon and Syria with the U.S. completely out of the picture.

    Bolton stepped well over the line in this second part of the ‘Summer War In Lebanon’ in his quite appalling and slanderous attacks on Kofi Annan, further proof that U.S. financial control of the U.N. and even the location of the U.N. headquarters in New York is a terrible mistake which must be rectified and the whole nature of the Security Council apparatus needs radically overhauled or scrapped with authority being vested in the General Assembly where it legally and rightly should always reside.

    The programmes mention of 100,000 cluster bombs does not mention that every cluster bomb contained at least 12 individual bomblets, still killing and maiming children and farmers particularly today and long into the future, so we are definitely in the region of one and a half million individual pieces of unexploded and delayed or disturbance detonated ordinance still on the ground along will millions of other mines Israel has planted throughout southern Lebanon which it will not disclose the locations of even to the U.N. who have multinational forces operating there.

    This program, both parts has been invaluable whilst being a slick piece of pro-Israeli propaganda it highlights the utterly mad detachment from reality that pervades Israeli government and which the media both swallows whole and implicitly condones , it has backfired completely though as given enough rope the Israelis have started to hang themselves.

    Danny Ayalon, former Israeli Ambassador to the United States typified this insanity with this prize gem of doublethink “after the civilians in this area were warned time and again to leave”, which shows such compassion, we are going to blow up all your homes and towns and then sow hundreds of thousands of anti-personnal mines and bombs to prevent you returning’ he boasts never questioning the sheer murderous insanity of committing such an attack in the first place.

    This is ethnic cleansing/genocide admitted, confessed to the pre-meditated intent and subsequent commission of it, and he boasts of it proudly.

    Thanks BBC, quite accidentally you have exposed the Israeli regime for the brutal murderous thugs they really are, keep it up.

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  13. Ultraviolence says:

    Suburbia = Existentialism LoL!

    (sorry)

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  14. Bryan says:

    TAM4,

    Your post is not worth reading, only deserving of the barest of quick scans. You’re a mix of miseducation, propaganda and vile hatred of others.

    When the Arabs, aided and abetted by the BBC and others, stop their terrorist atrocities against Israel, then Israel will have no need to defend herself. But evidently they can’t bring hemselves to stop it. Too many of them are not big enough to resist the schooling in hatred they receive from the cradle on up from their teachers and parents and imams. The eventual aim of course, is to make the entire world Islamic. What a sorry planet that would be. Thank God for people like John Bolton.

    In a way I feel sorry for you as you carry all that baggage around with you. You must be really unhappy. But you could try, at least, not to spread your unhappiness around the place. It’s highly contagious and people could catch it.

    (Let’s hope this troll feed will be so unpalatable it wont come back for more.)

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  15. Stuck-record says:

    Archduke 10:35 pm

    I laughed out loud at last nights Newsnight piece on Inuit Eskimos of the Arctic. Have the Newsnight editors no sense of irony?

    The moment when they introduced the Inuit global warming specialist was hysterical. There he was, riding towards the camera — on a petrol powered snowmobile! And he then proceeded to lecture us (i.e. the West — not him) that we must cut down on our carbon emissions as (our) pollution was destroying the natural Inuit way of life — which was illustrated by Inuit attempting to hunt for seal carrying precision rifles, which are a product of Western technology.

    They then cut to a wonderfully ironic scene of an urban Inuit town; every house clearly pouring excess heat from their chimney stacks into the clean polar air; quickly followed by a shot of the aeroplanes that are required to supply the non-viable, non self-sustaining inuit settlements.

    The message of the piece seemed to be that the Inuit should go back to their ‘natural’ way of life; living in igloos, eating frozen seal or moose meat, no medical care, no education, no prospect of anything but a hunter-gather lifestyle.

    Cool.

    Typical muddleheaded nonsense.

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  16. IiD says:

    Stuck-record

    That is a beautiful piece of fisking!

    Hit-tip 🙂

    Did anybody catch the good Doctor Fox on Newsnight…..I gather that NOBODY came on to challenge him!

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  17. Bryan says:

    marshall | 10.04.07 – 1:45 pm,

    This is probably a case of the HYS moderators not publishing your comments simply because they are being flooded, not because of bias. This topic has attracted thousands of comments in a short time. They can’t publish them all.

    They are a bit lazy in the way they go about it, though, just publishing a little batch, flushing a large batch down the toilet and then publishing another little batch. You can see that from the time stamp on the comments.

    Believe me, they would have published your pro-cash-for-stories comments if they had seen them.

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  18. IiD says:

    pounce | 10.04.07 – 8:52 pm |

    Good post!

    I’m not for one moment saying that these guys shouldn’t tell there story, what I despise is the fact that some sections of the British media have manipulated this whole sorry saga to strengthen Iran’s hand.

    The sniggering Harrison that I’ve just seen is typical of the false ‘patriotism’ of IBC

    http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?q=Newsnight&edition=d&scope=all&tab=av&recipe=all&x=23&y=13

    My argument is firstly the very emphasis on the ‘human’ side of the story suggests that the rules of engagement weren’t robust, but also a number of very troubling aspects as well as pointed out by Dr Fox and others. It also sends out a message that UK service personnel are ‘weak’ a very dangerous thing to say in a male dominated culture.

    I also hold a belief that Mr Alan Johnston kidnapping is no coincidence either, and that the BBC briefly reported that our patrols are now well away only increases the military pressure in Basra and along the Iranian boarder-including some of Iraq’s most important oil instillations. The timing of an IRGC defection and the capture of IRGC commanders suggests there is a lot more to this.

    Lastly, I think it is time to look at the state of our armed forces by both civilians and military-we all have a stake in the defence of our nations, so to ensure you have the right “kit” people need to be actively involved. The military is too ‘delicate’ to be allowed to be manipulated by PC doublethink.

    I think we need to have some strait answers, because my gut feeling is that we are getting out of Basra, not for the good of the people, but because it supposedly allows “closure” for Brown.

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  19. Nep Nederlander says:

    A few things:

    1. “Cambridge Spies” is being rerun at the moment, and it struck me how terribly sympathetic it is to the whole idea of upper-class Brits spying for the Soviet Union.

    2. New comedy: is it just me, or are all the new comedy shows being pushed (and even older stuff like Catherine Tate) absolute rubbish? This can only be brought to you by the unique way the BBC is funded: no commercial channel would ever pay for that sort of crap.

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  20. IiD says:

    Nep

    I picked up that ‘Cambridge Spies’ tosh from Free Record Shop typical of the lefty worldview.

    I thought it was “Queer as Folk” in the 1930’s…….

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  21. archduke says:

    reuters (breaking) – explosion outside govt building in algiers

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  22. archduke says:

    yet more fuzzy headed woolly thinking
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6542567.stm

    The British and US policy towards Iraq has “spawned new terror in the region”

    ok. so it has – funded mostly by Iran and Syria. so , should we lob a few cruise missiles at Iran? why no – of course not.


    The report, Beyond Terror: The Truth About the Real Threats to Our World, said any military intervention in Iran would be “disastrous”.

    oh ok. so we cant do anything about Iranian terror in Iraq. might as all go home so , and let the Sunni v Shia genocide kick off. will the “Oxford Research Group” send a task force to the region to stop that happening?

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  23. GCooper says:

    Nep Nederlander writes:

    “New comedy: is it just me, or are all the new comedy shows being pushed (and even older stuff like Catherine Tate) absolute rubbish?”

    The decline in the BBC’s ability to produce new comedy has been very obvious and nowhere more so than on Radio 4, traditionally the breeding ground of new talent.

    It’s tempting to say that this has been because of its obsession with exclusively hiring Leftist activists who think using the words ‘Bush and chimp’ in the same sentence is the height of wit. But the BBC has been hiring and nurturing Lefties for decades, so it probably isn’t that.

    Perhaps the decline is due to PC education? After all, a generation that doesn’t crease-up uncontrollably when confronted by natural clowns like Bono, Thom Yorke and George Monbiot probably isn’t going to bring us another P.G. Wodehouse, Peter Sellers or Peter Cook.

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  24. will says:

    BBC pathetic excuse #99

    The BBC has rejected a complaint from the Roman Catholic group Opus Dei that a drama unfairly depicted its members as “murderers, thieves and adulterers”.

    The lay group, whose members include Ruth Kelly, the Communities Secretary, complained about the BBC One crime drama Waking The Dead.

    The programme portrayed the fictional head of the organisation as a shadowy figure pursuing money and power, and implied that Opus Dei was involved in the murder of the Italian banker Roberto Calvi in 1982. Opus Dei said that the drama presented its members as “self-serving hypocrites” who “cover up evil actions while hiding behind a veneer of piety and penitential rituals of self-flagellation”.

    But Andrew Bell, the head of the BBC’s editorial complaints unit, said he could not uphold the complaint as he thought most viewers would not take the programme seriously.

    http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article1637397.ece

    Really, when they lapped up the Da Vinci Code, believe 9/11 to be Bush’s one unbotched achievement & that the US never put a man on the moon?

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  25. Block 813 says:

    GOOD…..that will piss even more people off…..LOL>……

    The BBC is digging its own grave.

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  26. exgof says:

    I notice that when I vote on “Will Live Earth make you think about climate change?”
    ‘No’ obviously, that the Votes Cast remains at 16,153. Am I paranoid or would the BBC be censoring?

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  27. exgof says:

    And yes I did refresh!

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  28. Ralph says:

    Someone may have spotted this BBC report of the bombings in Casablanca:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/6540369.stm

    But it reads more like a parody of the BBC than an actual report.

    Are they really bombers:

    ”Bombers’ die in Casablanca raid’

    Suspect everything:

    ‘A police raid on suspected militants in the Moroccan city of Casablanca’

    ‘a raid on an alleged militant hideout in a poor area of the city’

    ‘Another three suspected militants blew themselves up during the police manhunt’

    ‘when police raided a suspected militant hide-out in Casablanca’s El Fida district’

    ‘a third man blew himself up after reportedly jumping from a balcony’

    ‘A fourth suspected militant’

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  29. disillusioned_german says:

    Al Beeb – a suspected News Organization (for militans!)

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  30. disillusioned_german says:

    Sorry, make that “militants”…

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  31. Umbongo says:

    pounce and others

    Re the sailors/marines: you may be interested in the results of some research into the phenomenon of “collaboration” by POWs. After the Korean War the Pentagon was very concerned that a proportion of US POWs cooperated with the North Koreans: “cooperation” varied from very low levels of spying on colleagues right up (or down) to defection. The Pentagon was particularly concerned because of the Turkish contingent to the UN forces in Korea not one Turkish POW cooperated in any way with their N Korean captors. The research concluded that the reason for the different records was that the Turks kept their military heirarchy completely intact and dealt with their captors as a homogeneous unit, and the Turks only dealt with the N Koreans through senior Turkish captive officers: no individual soldiers (despite severe N Korean “persuasion”) communicated anything except name rank and number with their captors.

    It seems to me that not only were the 15 sailors/marines not trained – or even briefed – about what to do if captured but, insofar as it was possible, no effort was made by the officers to maintain military discipline and organisation within the 15-man group. The results of this we have seen and, given the Pentagon research, were entirely predictable.

    To comment further: I have no experience of service life, but I can still appreciate the guts necessary for a fireman to enter a burning building or a Pte Beharry to earn a VC. I can also appreciate the peculiar gutlessness of servicemen who, on the verge of being freed, drool over their goodie-bags and kow-tow to their captors knowing full well that their reactions are being filmed for propaganda purposes. I don’t expect heroics of our servicemen – particularly those not strictly in a combat role – but I do expect some passing relationship to self-respect in their behaviour when captured and post-capture. Money grubbing, in particular, is not an attractive or dignified sight: the example of the wife of the prime minister is not one to emulate.

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  32. will says:

    Lining up for the Tehran gig when Ms Harrison draws a veil over her procedings, is Jenny Hill, currently in Yemen.

    R5 Upallnight desk person asks “When you go out & about, is Yemen a place where women can operate very freely?”

    Hill replies “Actually the social code is so strong here that I find it quite easy to walk around, as I know people won’t hassle me too much & they won’t give me too much of a hard time.”

    Sounds like paradise!

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  33. Alan says:

    Re: – media discussion of the initial kidnapping of the UK ‘navy 15’ in Iraqi waters, why has there been hardly any mention of the role of the SPECIAL BOAT SERVICE (SBS), the navy ‘equivalent’ of the army SAS?

    Obviously, except to Brown, Brown and Blair, the SBS needs strengthening in every way. See:

    http://www.specialboatservice.co.uk

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  34. Alan says:

    Radio 4 ‘goes native’:

    “The Beeb’s cultural cringe”

    http://www.melaniephillips.com

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  35. will says:

    C4 News plays to a lefty audience, hopefully they will take notice of this in tonight’s programme

    Darfur: the Chinese connection

    Our China correspondent Lindsey Hilsum is hard on the heels of the ‘genocide games’ – yes the new epithet for the baby Beijing Olympics. China’s import of massive quantities of Sudan’s oil leave her with unparalleled influence over that country, specifically in the region of Darfur.

    Though they have talked about doing something she reports that in practical terms it is virtually nothing at all. Is china about to suffer what Russia experienced over the Olympic games?

    & they will STFU about the US ignoring Darfur cos it has no oil.

    Thanks to C4 for airing it – BBC take note!

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  36. Jack Hughes says:

    Yes I watched the “Inuit” thing on the 10 o’clock news last night with growing bemusement.

    It was a classic “sandwich”: some facts – then some leftist opinion in the middle – then some facts.

    Strange bit at the start. The eskimo guy wanted to learn the traditional hunting stuff “so I can pass it on to my children”. No mention of feeding those children or himself in the present tense.

    Then the middle bit about the poor bugggers who had moved into the town. Hang on a minute – the climate change is happening in the future – not 2 years ago ? And their boozing – can this really be blamed on climate change even if its already happening ?

    But very emotive stuff. Underlines the message even when it is totally irrelevant. Bit like music in a film.

    Had to chuckle at the guy on a skidoo. These all have inefficient and polluting 2-stroke engines.

    Sadly all this crapola really is working for the propagandists. My daughter really did think that leaving her bedroom light on all day had probably killed at least one polar bear.

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  37. Biodegradable says:

    Ralph | 11.04.07 – 2:57 pm

    Funnier still is the constantly updated cut ‘n’ paste page devoted to the continuing saga of Alan Johnston (pbuh).

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6543773.stm

    Alan Johnston disappeared more than four weeks ago on his way home from work. It is feared he was abducted.

    So, they know he disappeared because they can’t find him, but they only fear he may have been abducted. Until you read a little further down…

    The Palestinian government said it is “deeply sorry” he is still being held.

    So, it is known that he is being held?

    “His kidnapping is detrimental to our nation and our national cause,” Mr Barghouti said.

    Ah-ha! Mr Barghouti says he’s been kidnapped!

    Johnston was taken hostage by masked gunmen as he returned to his apartment in Gaza City on March 12.

    So Johnston was “taken hostage” and it’s even known that the ones who did it were masked, yet we’re first told that it is only “feared he was abducted”.

    Spin on BBC, maybe it’ll make you giddy!

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  38. Anonymous says:

    From Biodegradable’s link:

    We in the government are deeply sorry and ashamed that this kidnapping is ongoing, especially since he is a friend of our people and has done a lot for our cause.

    Palestinian Information Minister Mustafa Barghouti

    Hmm, an independent, non-biased gatherer of facts reporting for an organisation that is charter-bound to be impartial “has done a lot for our cause”? How so, Mr Barghouti?

    Note to Beeboids – look at the thanks you get for helping the Paleosimians.

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  39. pounce says:

    The BBC, its love of Iran and a lie of a story;

    US says Iran arming Sunni groups
    The US military has for the first time accused Iran of arming Sunni militants fighting in Iraq
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6546555.stm

    So the BBC reports on a story about how the Yanks are saying Iran is funding and feeding the terrorists in Iraq. But right at the end of that story the BBC inserts this little lie in which to try and discredit the US.
    “The White House also denied Iranian state television reports it tortured a diplomat held in custody for two months.”
    Held in custody BBC? The last i looked Mr Sharafi was kidnapped off the open streets of Iraq and released by people unknown. If that is so how the hell can the BBC point in the direction of tortured while held in American custody? When even he doesn’t even know who picked him up?

    The BBC, Its love of Iran and a lie of a story

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  40. Jon says:

    “”The United States empire is on its way down and it will be finished in the near future, inshallah,” Chavez told reporters, ending the statement with the Arabic phrase for “God willing.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/ 0,2…,214709,00.html

    Hugh Sykes and now Chevez – could this be a way of spotting the new marxist?

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  41. GCooper says:

    Jack Hughes writes:

    “Sadly all this crapola really is working for the propagandists. My daughter really did think that leaving her bedroom light on all day had probably killed at least one polar bear.”

    And that’s exactly why the BBC is so dangerous. People take this stuff in, unnoticed, like arsenic in the drinking water.

    It isn’t just innocent children who fall to this Goebbels tactic – it’s also the legions of middle class housewives who actually believe recycled paper ‘saves the rainforest’!

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  42. Jon says:

    pounce : “The White House also denied Iranian state television reports it tortured a diplomat held in custody for two months.”

    Thats really sinister indeed. The BBc cannot even stick to a story line without putting its own propaganda at the bottom of the page, in order to take the readers thoughts away from the real message of the piece.

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  43. DennisTheMenace says:

    .
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    I Know this is not strictly B-BBC stuff but it’s about one of the BBC ‘Pin Up’s’ –

    It’ll make you laugh (I think ???) but its no joke –

    A Disarming Election: Iran and Syria lead the U.N. Disarmament Commission

    “….At the same time that Iran’s President Ahmadinejad declared his country was now capable of industrial-scale uranium enrichment, the U.N. reelected Iran as a vice chairman of the U.N. Disarmament Commission….”

    http://www.eyeontheun.org/editor.asp?p=319&b=1

    Just one more reason to justify the complete elimination of this bloated, useless and corrupt organisation.

    Hey, lets spend the money we save on MMGW carbon offsetting —- think of all those tree’s that could be sucking up CO2 — and the polar bears, the polar bears, saving the wee cuddly polar bears.

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  44. dave t says:

    “ANIMALS FORCED INLAND

    Alaskan sea otters are starving! Why? Because there’s too much ice:

    An unbudging sheath of sea ice has blocked off the waters where the Alaska Peninsula’s sea otters forage, forcing the starving animals inland on a search for food and making them easy prey for wolves and humans.

    Some otters have waddled or slid on their bellies for several miles onto the tundra near Port Heiden, where they have been attacked by dogs, killed for their pelts or have died of malnourishment …

    Similar freeze-outs have been documented since the early 1970s.

    Poor little guys; if only that ice could be melted somehow. ”

    http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/animals_forced_inland/

    SO what is it BBC warming or cooling?

    When can we expect a concert for these poor wee creatures?

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  45. dave t says:

    Comments on the Iran 15:

    There are pictures which the BBC and others deliberately cropped which show most of the sailors NOT smiling waving etc when released.

    Faye is a former school chum of my daughter in Meole Brace, Shrewsbury. She was big then and she’s big now. Is there not a fitness test she is supposed to pass each year in the Andrew?

    What is she doing offering mummy hugs to 20 year old so called men?

    Given a 19 year old female medic won the MC in Iraq not long ago, rather makes wee Batchelor look very weak and unmanly. If he gets upset being called Mr Bean wait until he returns to his ship….

    What were the officers thinking letting sailors take IPods on boarding ops? Off duty yes, on duty NO!

    This whole affair seems very much aimed at taking the public eye (and Liam Fox’s) OFF the senior officers on HMS Cornwall and at home in Northwood and the Admiralty.

    I am sickened by the huge number of US and other foreign milblogs including people I know who are saddened and disgusted by the activities of the RN, the MoD and the sailors/marines themselves. Our reputation overseas and in the States has been dealt a major blow and we can see the Iranians in Iraq already pushing their warriors to attack our troops. Thus the Army suffers thanks to the Navy. No wonder General Dannat (CGS) is raging!

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  46. The Fat Contractor says:

    archduke | 11.04.07 – 1:09 am |

    history will be kind to Bolton. however the likes of Williams will be firmly put into the Chamberlain camp

    That depends on which side writes the history really ….

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  47. pounce says:

    The BBC, it’s love of Islam and half a story;

    Bosnia tackles ‘foreign fighters’
    Bosnia-Hercegovina has stripped almost 400 people of citizenship as part of an investigation into foreign fighters who settled in the country after the war.
    ……………….
    Bosnian media sees the investigation as a part of a drive against terrorism requested by the US.
    ………………
    The justice minister, Barisa Colak, announced that citizenship was now being withdrawn in 367 cases where it had been illegally awarded. In response, a former commander in the Bosnian army, Serif Patkovic, said the decision was political and would split men from wives and children.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6547287.stm

    The BBC runs a story on how Bosnia is removing those people (I wonder what faith they are?) who they have found to have a dodgy background. (ie.. Implicated in certain war crimes) But instead of reporting the facts the BBC has embellished the details with superfluous snippets which point once again at nasty little US.

    But what takes the biscuit is how the BBC end with how a former commander in the Bosnian army Serif Patkovic is allowed to cry foul play over how families will be broken up…

    So who is Serif Patkovic? Well he’s only the former commander of the 7th Muslim Brigade of the Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina and who was implicated in the massacre of a large number of their Croatian allies.
    http://www.hercegbosna.org/engleski/probing.html

    You know BBC the type of people the Bosnians are currently getting rid of because of their shady past.

    But then I only served in GV (look up the story) at the Precision Factory so know at first hand how bad the Muslims were. (and the BBC only gives the Serbs a bad name)

    The BBC, it’s love of Islam and half a story

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  48. Bryan says:

    But instead of reporting the facts the BBC has embellished the details with superfluous snippets which point once again at nasty little US.

    True, but the word terrorism appears twice in these snippets, once even linked – gasp – with the word Islamic.

    We should document these instances of the use of the T-word as they become more and more rare and finally vanish altogether from the BBC’s narrow, blinkered little world.

    There’s an interesting new comment on the BBC’s avoidance and abuse of the T-word on the Biting the hand thread:

    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/6388600449232883387/?a=39762#337214

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  49. Allan@Aberdeen says:

    I listen to Radio 4 in the morning for a few minutes because I find that it really does wake me up. There was much reportage over a racist islamaphobic sexual attack on a 33-year-old Algerian woman perpetrated by a group of white men who threw stones at her and her 1-year-old child. She had her scarf ripped from her and she managed to run away with her child. One Rabina Koreshi (spelling?) announced that racism is on the increase in Scotland and even though the woman has had her application for asylum rejected, we in Scotland want the illegals to remain.
    After hearing all this, alarm bells were ringing in my head and I was wide awake.
    1. Witnesses to the ‘attack’? None mentioned, yet there is no public space in Glasgow where there is not anyone else to be seen (I’m remembering the recent ‘racist attack’ on a Sikh in Edinburgh which involved much breast-beating about Scottish racism and a great deal of police time)
    2. The woman has had her application for asylum rejected and might even be deported: then along comes a racist attack.
    3. The attackers “threw stones”. Throwing stones is an arab past-time: it isn’t what happens up here. Knives and glass bottles, maybe: stones – no!
    4. The angle of attack by the guest (she was apparently a representative of a housing group which wants to spend my tax money on illegal migrants) was that whites have been beastly towards the uninvited guests in their midst and so are racist yet fails to mention the racist murder of Kris Donald (a 15-year-old white boy).
    5. ‘We’ in Scotland do not want illegal migrants. That is established as fact and should have been challenged.
    I’m now watching this one to see how it develops. What is noteworthy is that any apparent racist attack by whites on non-whites receives national airspace yet a racist murder in Scotland of a white boy is quarantined within BBC Scotland.

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