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  1. Stuck-record says:

    Allan

    Oh good. It wasn’t just me. My alarm bells were ringing all the way through the story this morning.

    My problem was the strange ‘expansion’ of the story.

    If an Algerian woman and her child were assaulted, it is a terrible and unforgivable crime. But the question is: why is this a major news item on the Today programme? If you look at the BBC website — as of 8:30 this morning — it is buried down in a sidebar on the Scottish newspage. It’s not even on the front page.

    Then the Today programme report didn’t even focus on the assault. The main point of report was to allow the lady being interviewed, Miss Koreshi (?), to have a go at the government for its policy of deporting illegal immigrants and failed asylum seekers. She failed to answer what the connection between these two items was. She failed to answer whether or not the woman assaulted was a failed asylum seeker or illegal immigrant. She took issue with the expression ‘illegal immigrant’ anyway.

    She then got into a bit of a pickle. This attack, and the government’s eviction of failed asylum seekers proved that Scotland was increasingly racist and Islamophobic, but…, err…, Scotland was also increasingly supportive of failed asylum seekers; vis-a-vis all the white people who were turning up every morning to try to prevent failed asylum seekers being deported.

    Why was this story given such prominent airtime?

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  2. Oscar says:

    So Johnston was “taken hostage” and it’s even known that the ones who did it were masked, yet we’re first told that it is only “feared he was abducted”.
    BioD
    And to add to all the contradictions Mahmoud Abbas has asssured the BBC that Johnston is ‘unharmed and in good health’ – but on the other hand they don’t know if he’s been ‘abducted’?

    Allan@Aberdeen
    I also heard the report on the ‘racist’ attack in Glasgow – where they announced in every news bulletin that it was perpetrated by a “white man” and involved a “sexual assault” and an “assault” on a baby – even tho’ there were no witnesses.

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  3. IiD says:

    Good Morning

    Pounce and dave t

    As always very insightful comments.

    What deeply concerns me is something that Umbongo touched upon.

    “It seems to me that not only were the 15 sailors/marines not trained – or even briefed – about what to do if captured but, insofar as it was possible, no effort was made by the officers to maintain military discipline and organisation within the 15-man group. The results of this we have seen and, given the Pentagon research, were entirely predictable.”

    I’m with most people in only being an informed laymen on these things but to be only armed with very light small arms in rubber dinghy’s who’s brief it was to interdict weapons shipments is surly asking for trouble, Doesn’t the Navy posses anything like the old Plastic Patrol Boats that the US Marines employed in Vietnam? It would be rather naive to think that the IRGC didn’t already know this fact and that the patrols were not of the highest quality in terms of moral and training but giving them something with a little more firepower at least would of deterred any stunts by the IRGN?

    Or have I been watching too many A-Team episodes?

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  4. Block 813 says:

    Rubber Dingys are fine for this work……what you NEED is Air Support….

    Trust me, if Armed Attack Helicopters were hovering over head, with orders to defend the Royal Navys dingy fleet, the Iranians would have gone home, or to the bottom…..

    But, as we know, Labour hates the military, so they don’t have the kit, and apparantly, the chopper that was on station had to go back and refuel, so left the dingy undefended……then the Iranians swooped…..

    The Navy then got in contact with London (Blair), and asked if they could interviene…..to which Nuber 10 said “No”……

    Anyone who tells you different is a liar.

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  5. Rueful Red says:

    Robina Qureshi is a standard issue hard left fascist.

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  6. Rueful Red says:

    Sorry, here’s the link. Fairly hot babe to look at, though.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robina_Qureshi

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  7. Bryan says:

    I’ve been scanning the drawn-out HYS Johnston thread.

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5911&&&edition=2&ttl=20070412091114

    It seems that 99% of the comments are pro-Johnston. (Or at least the ones the censors see fit to publish. I had a mild comment published and then deleted.)

    But a few have slipped through the net in the past week:

    Added: Sunday, 8 April, 2007, 14:18 GMT 15:18 UK
    The suffering of the Palestinian Arabs as punishment for the crimes they commit, aid, abet, encourage against Israeli civilians and now against each other and the criminal assassins they regard as their heroes almost makes me believe in god. It certainly seems ironic justice at the very least. And to see Alan Johnston who championed their cause kidnapped with fate unknown and those who back him at Bush House in anguish over him is the icing on the cake. How exquisitely history plays itself out.
    Mark, USA

    Added: Saturday, 7 April, 2007, 10:14 GMT 11:14 UK
    Like most American’s I more or less supported the position of Israel, but it was the reporting of the BBC, and Mr Johnston that brought the plight of the Palestinians directly to me in a way that I could not ignore.
    Nicholas Evancik, Atlanta, Georgia

    The opposite is true with me. Watching BBC and reading Alan’s reports, I realised that Israel was being targeted in quite an evil manner by a cabal of biased left wingers.

    Therefore I became more pro-Israel.

    Thank you BBC & Alan.
    The Elitist

    Added: Friday, 6 April, 2007, 10:46 GMT 11:46 UK
    My petition goes for the West to stop creating divide and rule policy in Middle East and elsewhere in the world. Let other people live. All lives are sacrosanct and cultures are great. Respect humanity and don’t give a damn to propagandists. You give pains to others and now you are realising the pain when you are getting. Say no to propaganda by media! BBC is a propaganda media too and say no to BBC.
    Hick, France

    Little points of light in the BBC black hole.

    It’s also interesting that most comments only attract one or two recommendations but the highly recommended comments include almost all of the early comments expressing scepticism about the quality of his reporting:

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&threadID=5911&edition=2&ttl=20070412091114&#paginator

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  8. deegee says:

    Umbongo:
    “no individual soldiers (despite severe N Korean “persuasion”) communicated anything except name rank and number with their captors.”

    I have also read about this and agree in principle that British military discipline failed in Iran but it does raise one important question.

    Given that the Turkish soldier was likely to speak Turkish and nothing else and only some Turkish officers would have been able to speak English and that there were very few or no Koreans/Chinese who spoke Turkish.
    What could the individual soldier have told his captors and in what language?

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  9. Block 813 says:

    ….and every time the BBC dleets a few 100 more comments, a few 100 more people “figure it out”…

    The 10s of Thousands they take to court every month, will always despise the BBC ever more……

    The BBC is losing friends, and fast……doing the Live Earth mockery may be the final straw…when it is then known, world wide, as the backer of looney left wing propaganda, and the most hated Chancellor in UK History.

    Bye Bye BBC…no wonder so many millions turn away every year.

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  10. Alan says:

    “Black kids to blame for knife and gun murders, says Blair.” (12 Apr.)

    http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk

    First paragraph:

    “Tony Blair yesterday admitted political correctness has hampered the fight against black gangs and called for a change in crime policy.”

    (And, it could be added, the ‘political correctness’ of the BBC is in there too.)

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  11. Mark says:

    I am waiting for CND to organise a march on Tehran to protest against Ah’m-on-a-mad-Jihad’s nuclear build-up.

    Or maybe not – CND don’t want to stop our enemies from acquiring the weaponry they wanted the West to ban.

    After all, they didn’t protest against the Soviet build-up of SS20 missiles being pointed at us …

    Come to think of it, the West seems to have a ‘unilateral religious disarmament’ policy when it comes to downgrading its historical faith – we abandon our Christianity in the hope that Muslims will do the same with Islam.

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  12. Allan@Aberdeen says:

    Is there anything new on the attack on the Algerian refugee and her child by white racist islamophobes who are typical of the Scottish population?
    Any word on witnesses to the stone-throwing etc?

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  13. Alan says:

    Al Beeb to dabble in political incorrectness!:

    “Death to US: Anti-Americanism examined”

    Justin Webb…”argues anti-Americanism is often a cover for hatreds with little justification in fact. His three-part series takes him to Cairo, Caracas and Washington but it begins where anti-Americanism began – in Paris.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6547881.stm

    ( This series is on Radio 4, over 3 weeks, starting 16 April, at 20.00BST.)

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  14. Bill says:

    Daniel Finkelstein provides the real story behind the Alan Johnston kidnapping :

    http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/

    “I know that the BBC is an impossibly difficult position as both reporter and employer, but the story is the links between Johnston’s disappearance and the feud, civil disorder in Gaza since Israel’s departure and Schalit. The BBC has a responsibility to report it.”

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  15. will says:

    EU Referendum points out that BBC’s Nick Robinson has, as usual, got his head up his a**e.

    Inevitably though, caught in the Westminster “bubble” as he is, Robinson is thinking in terms of “the government” • i.e., ministers. But why would ministers want to avoid scrutiny of the events which led to the capture of the sailors and marines? These are operational issues and the primary responsibility rested with operational commanders in the field

    http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2007/04/now-hes-asking.html

    Government ministers are, of course, far too interfering. But the BBC is always ready to place every matter at the door of No 10.

    It seems to me ridiculous that the tens of thousands of highly paid public sector managers – from Perm Secs to generals to NHS administrators to headteachers – who are provided with delegated budgets & much discretion, are excused shortcomings as the media looks to the government.

    Cameron & co following the usual political trait of siding with the media at the a**e kicking party, too short sighted to see that it will come back to bite them when they gain power.

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  16. Stuck-record says:

    Has there been any info, confirmation, denial or denunciation of the rumour that Alan Johnson had been fired by the BBC?

    If there has, I missed it.

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  17. Alan says:

    Perhaps Al Beeb (and the rest of the UK media), will begin coverage of Algeria and Morocco, not as suitable holiday or property buying opportunities, but as the Al Qaeda islamic jihad bases they are:

    “After Algeria and Morocco, Europe could be the next target for Islamic terror”

    http://www.iht.com

    (tap in ‘Algeria’ in Search box).

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  18. Anonymous says:

    Justin Webb is BBC Radio’s chief Washington correspondent; Death to America – Anti-Americanism Examined is on Radio 4 next Monday at 8pm

    “What is there not to like about the US? There are a number of possible answers, not all printable. But after weeks spent talking to anti-Americans in Paris, Cairo and Caracas, I am more convinced than ever that the anti-American mindset is often just that: a mindset, a prejudice. It is not racism – America has no racial profile to be hated – but nor is it simply a reaction to events and policies”
    More
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2054879,00.html

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  19. Stuck-record says:

    It’ll be interesting to see how the Beeb (with its party line of appeasement) manages to spin this one.

    Alarm in Spain over al-Qaeda call for its “reconquest”
    http://rawstory.com/news/dpa/Alarm_in_Spain_over_al_Qaeda_call_f_04122007.html

    Al Qaeda bombs the Spanish train system because Spain is helping in Iraq.
    Spain pulls out of Iraq and hopes Al Qaeda will leave them alone. Look, we’re not America!
    (Slight pause)
    Al Qaeda call for reconquest of Spain.

    What can the Spanish give them now?

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  20. Anonymous says:

    Jailed preacher of hate in court battle to stay in Britain:

    Sheikh Abdullah El-Faisal, a Jamaican-born Muslim convert who urged followers at Brixton Mosque to kill Jews, Hindus and Americans, is due to be freed within weeks after serving two thirds of a seven-year sentence.
    Photo. of him:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=448077&in_page_id=1770

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  21. Biodegradable says:

    Apologies if this has already been mentioned.

    From Melanie Phillips:
    The Beeb’s cultural cringe

    A reader has sent me this correspondence between himself and a BBC news executive after reporter Hugh Sykes, in a report last month from Baghdad on BBC Radio Four’s PM programme, uttered these words: ‘…and the Deputy Prime Minister will, inshallah, be in hospital by now’. I reproduce it with his permission. Further comment is unnecesary.

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  22. JimBob says:

    I do find it strange that the BBC say hundreds but they don’t quote it.

    Then they show a picture with all of 7 people in it.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6549467.stm

    I can’t even find mention of these hundreds in any of the local papers.
    I’m wondering if al_Beeb are pushing their agenda again?

    Or am I just being too cynical?

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  23. Foxgoose says:

    Sorry if the following is a bit OT but I couldn’t resist it.

    Johann Hari writes twice a week in the Independent and is apparently a rising star – “Student Journo of the Year 2000” – “Young Journo OTY 2003” and occasional appearances on Question Time.

    Today he reviews a best selling self help book called “The Secret” by an Australian – Rhonda Byrne.

    Ms Byrne apparently believes that you can do great things with the power of positive thought – including curing yourself of cancer, getting a bigger house or even finding a parking space.

    More bizarrely she even suggests that people died on 911 because “negative thinking attracts bad things”.

    Well, Johann’s review was pretty scathing and I nodded my way through it more or less in agreement until the payoff paragraph:-

    “This is the real secret – that the book is a pure expression of Bushism: a slop of rancid aspiration-speak masking selfishness, social collapse and religiose myth-making”

    So once again – IT’S ALL GEORGE BUSH’S FAULT.

    Whenever I dip into the Indie I tiptoe away in bemusement. Are these people really living on the planet amongst us?

    http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/johann_hari/article2441967.ece

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  24. Ashley Pomeroy says:

    Another entry in the long-running Alan Johnstone saga:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/04/one_month_on.html

    “(Since he disappeared, a month ago) there have been tenacious and determined efforts by members of BBC News both in London and in the Middle East to try to achieve his release. Our colleagues in BBC Scotland have offered Alan’s family their practical support. There have been diligent and sustained efforts behind the scenes by representatives of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and we have pressed our own contacts for all they are worth. It is a slow, difficult and frustrating process where rumour and speculation abound but there is almost no hard evidence about what has happened to Alan. However, we remain optimistic that he is safe.”

    I wonder when they will tell us who they pressed, and how hard, and what the “diligent and sustained efforts behind the scenes” amounted to, and what kind of price they paid, and how much; perhaps in thirty years or so, when the files are released.

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  25. Umbongo says:

    deegee

    Good thought about the Turks and Turkish. I believe though (and this is depending on my pretty ropey memory) that all the Turks involved in Korea had to be able to speak/understand English fairly well because that was the “command language” used in Korea. After all, although it was a “UN” operation, in reality the major combattant and supplier of military material was the US.

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  26. paulc says:

    Apparently even former BBC executives share this site’s opinion of Feargal Keane:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article1642549.ece

    I wonder if he reads the offerings available here.

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  27. Trifecta says:

    Apologies if this has been mentioned previously but listening to the BBC working themselves up to a crescendo of righteous indignation about the selling of the sailors story makes me wonder if they were offered the story and were then out-bid?

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  28. paulc says:

    Some news that you won’t hear from the BBC:
    http://mreugenides.blogspot.com/2007_04_01_archive.html

    I say; you don’t think this paints the UN in a bad light, do you?

    🙂

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  29. pounce says:

    The BBC, Jeremy Bowen and his love for terrorists;

    Media unite to seek BBC man’s release
    The one good thing that has come out of last four weeks since Alan Johnston, the BBC Gaza correspondent, was kidnapped has been the way that his colleagues have rallied around the campaign to get him home.
    …………………
    Since Alan was kidnapped, we have not been able to do justice to the Palestinian story in Gaza.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6550131.stm

    Yup I couldn’t agree with you more Mr Bowen. I mean how the hell can you play the victim card for the Pals and berate the Jews when the pals have not only bit the hand that feeds them, but have done so, since time and time again.

    As the Scorpion said to the toad after stinging it mid river during a piggy back.
    “It’s my nature”
    The BBC, Jeremy Bowen and his love for terrorists

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  30. GCooper says:

    So the Met finally gets up off its hands and raids a drug den.

    And what is the BBC headline on its increasingly risible website?

    “We taught peace…. Anger as drugs police raid historic Rastafarian temple.”

    So, no touchy-feely Left-liberal solidarity with the ethnics bias, there!

    Respec’!

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  31. Ben says:

    GCooper | 12.04.07 – 8:33 pm | #

    yes and no mention to the kind of drugs being dealt there, by the tone of the bbc article you’d
    think they were talking about cannabis
    well i did anyway,but then i read this.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=448027&in_page_id=1770

    One resident, who did not wish to give his name, said: “You used to have some old Rastas who ran the place and dealt a little dope. There was never really any trouble and they used to police the street.

    “But over the last year or two you’ve had gangsters moving in selling crack.”

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  32. Jon says:

    I am presently watching the “Battle of Britain” on Film 4 and I was just thinking to myself if the BBC made a remake we would probably lose!!

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  33. Alan says:

    This article strikes me as being a bold, intelligent response from a UK MEP, Gerard Batten, UKIP, to both the EU’s attempt to censor language, (re- Islam, jihad, terrorism,etc.), and to Al Beeb’s bias on Iraq war coverage.

    Here’s a sample:

    ‘Batten cited British media coverage of the Iraq war – particularly BBC coverage – as an example of media not facing the real issue of who is doing most of the killing but seeking to place the blame on America and Britain instead.’

    “Whatever we think about the Iraq war, whether it is right or wrong is irrelevant. It’s not Americans or British killing these enormous numbers of people now, it’s Muslims doing it to other Muslims,” he said.’

    “And you won’t see any blame from Muslims in this country, or anywhere else in Europe, blaming Muslims for doing it.”

    Article: ‘Don’t Link Terrorism with Islam, EU Tells Gov’t Spokesmen’

    http://www.cnsnews.com
    (go to ‘International’).

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  34. pounce says:

    Jon wrote;
    I am presently watching the “Battle of Britain” on Film 4

    Me too,(Well it’s now finished)
    I’m sure if the BBC were to use the likes of their infamous middleeastern reporters. The RAF would be accused of war crimes against the Nazis.
    (I mean they were trying to kill us, just like plumbers are today)

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  35. pounce says:

    Jon more on what if with the Battle Of Britian and the BBC of toda.

    BBC (Jul 1940)
    Have your say;
    Is the RAF right to defend the UK against the Luftwaffe.

    BBC (Aug 1940)
    Is the UK guilty of warcrimes by jailing German airmen without a courtcase?

    BBC (Sept 1940)
    Do you believe the Uk government’s account of German air losses.

    BBC (Oct 1940)
    Will you be joining ‘the not in our name’ parade in London this wekend?

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  36. Anonymous says:

    Received this e-mail below from FrontPageMag.com

    “The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, and the rock and the tree will say: Oh, Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!'” — Hamas spokesman, Dr. Ismail Radwan, Palestinian Authority TV, March 30, 2007:

    Maybe it’s the fact that I’m a Jew that I take the determination of Hamas to kill me personally; or that I find it morally repellent that the Speaker of the House should pay a friendly call on the dictator of Damascus who hosts, protects and arms these genocidal jihadis, but I do. I find it equally depressing that my fellow Jews who fund the Democratic Party (an estimated 80% of its donations no less), and my fellow Americans who are not Jews and vote Democratic but do not wish Jews like me dead, are not burning up the phone lines, and crashing the Internet with howls of protest over their Party’s collusion with our contemporary Hitlers. Because that is what they are. They are not “Hitlers” in the sense that Cindy Sheehan thinks George Bush is Hitler as a metaphor of her hatred for her her country. They are Hitlers in the sense that they are Hitlers. They want Jews dead. They are preparing the next war to see that the Jews are dead. And they will not rest until they complete the final solution or until they are stopped.

    American defenders of the Nazi Axis which includes Hezbollah and Iran — are located squarely on the left side of the political spectrum. The movement to stop America from stopping Iran has already begun. The voices of this fifth column include Cindy Sheehan, Rosie O’Donnell, Medea Benjamin, and their “anti-war” comrades at MoveOn.org. It would be a mistake to regard these individuals as marginal. They are the same crowd that brought us the war against the war in Iraq.

    Genocide of Jews remains Hamas goal
    by Itamar Marcus and Barbara Crook
    Palestinian Media Watch pmw@pmw.org.il

    As Hamas seeks international recognition by softening its tone in English, in Arabic it continues the calls for genocide of Jews. In a recent sermon on PA TV, Hamas spokesman Dr. Ismail Radwan made it clear that the classical Hamas ideology had not changed, including its continued incorporation of extremist Islamic beliefs into Hamas ideology and policy. He reiterated:

    1. The Hour of the Islamic Resurrection and End of Time is literally dependent on the killing of Jews by Muslims.

    2. The remaining Jews will unsuccessfully attempt to hide, as the rocks and trees will expose them, calling out “there is a Jew behind me, kill him!”

    3. “Palestine& will be liberated through the rifle,” a euphemism meaning that Israel will be destroyed through violence.

    The Hamas spokesman ended with prayers to Allah to “take” Israel and the USA.

    The following is the text of the Hamas spokesman’s call for genocide of Jews:

    The Hamas spokesman, Dr. Ismail Radwan, PA TV, March 30, 2007 –

    The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims kill them, and the rock and the tree will say: “Oh, Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!”

    We must remind our Arab and Muslim nation, its leaders and people, its scholars and students, remind them that Palestine and the Al Aqsa mosque will not be liberated through summits nor by international resolutions, but it will be liberated through the rifle. It will not be liberated through negotiations, but through the rifle, since this occupation knows no language but the language of force& O Allah, strengthen Islam and Muslims, and bring victory to your Jihad-fighting worshipers, in Palestine and everywhere& Allah take the oppressor Jews and Americans and their supporters!

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  37. archonix says:

    BBC News 11th of July 1940

    BERLIN. The office of the Fuhrer today released a scathing condemnation of the British Air Brigade, also known as the ‘Royal Air Force’, for their part in ongoing offenses against French coastal towns and ports. The scathing rebuke comes just hours after the British government claimed that the German Luftwaffe had launched an ‘overwhelming’ assault against what they see as British territory off the coast of France. The British responded to this claim by launching a surprise attack on german air patrols over the Manche, a disputed waterway that seperates German-administered France from the disputed territories.

    British Premier Winston Churchil was quoted as saying that ‘so many’ owed him ‘so much’ after making defiant claims about the status of the southern territories of Essex, Sussex and Norfolk, which some say are historically german lands.

    The deposed king of England, King Edward, praised Fuhrer Hitler’s acts, whilst significant protests were held in the city of London to protest the English resistance to Germany’s peaceful attempts to unite the continent after centuries of bitter warfare.

    Mr Churchill was later heard to remark that he would never give up his assaults on the German people, in what some are saying is a sign of his increasing paranoia and instability.

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  38. Bryan says:

    The Palestinians play games within games within games. If it’s true that Johnston is being held by a powerful clan that is a law unto itself in lawless Gaza and is armed to the teeth, then it could be that this clan is negotiating with Hamas, demanding millions for Johnston’s release.

    Hamas, accustomed to leeching off the EU and others, finds the concept of extortion quite foreign when it is the object of the extortion and will be unlikely to part with any money. And it can’t try to go in and get Johnston out because then the clan will surely kill him. So it makes soothing noises when questioned by the BBC, but meanwhile the deadlock continues.

    It’s likely that the whole of Gaza knows by now exactly where Johnston is and who is holding him. But nobody will breathe a word of it to the outside world for fear of antagonising his kidnappers and thus endangering his life.

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  39. Anonymous says:

    archonix,

    Winston Churchill to Hitler’s appeasers: “Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last.”

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  40. archonix says:

    *stealth edit*

    Mr Churchill was leater heard to refer to The Fuhrer as a “crocodile”, whom he was refusing to “feed”, in what some are saying are increasing signs of his paranoia and instability.

    */stealth edit*

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  41. Bryan says:

    The BBC was cuddling up to the terrorists yet again, this time on the World Service in its description of the carnage in Iraq:

    An audacious attack in Baghdad has left many people dead.

    In one of the most daring breaches of security in Baghdad, a suicide bomber has….

    In a spectacular attack, a bomb detonated in a truck has destroyed a bridge….

    There the BBC goes again, stumbling over itself in its indecent haste to praise and support terrorist scum in their savage attacks on innocents.

    Anything to undo what the coalition is trying to achieve together with Iraqis. It’s crystal clear which team the BBC is rooting for.

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  42. Jon says:

    Can’t remember seeing this on the BBC – This report was published in 2002.

    “The research, published in a paper in the May 15 issue of Geophysical Research Letters, provides striking evidence that sunspots — blemishes on the sun’s surface indicating strong solar activity — do influence global climate change, but that explosive volcanic eruptions on Earth can completely reverse those influences.

    It is the first time that volcanic eruptions have been identified as the atmospheric event responsible for the sudden and baffling reversals that scientists have seen in correlations between sunspots and climate.”
    http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/geowissenschaften/bericht-10541.html

    Could it be that “scientists” have made their mind up that CO2 is to blame and don’t want to complicate matters by looking at other compelling research?

    The blogger at http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2005/01/greenhouse-alarmists-fight-new-sunspot.html, looks at the way a leading climate “alarmist”, Gavin Schmidt of NASA/Goddard Institute for Space Studies dismisses new reseach that upsets his “climate models”. Error theory concludes:

    “In short, the alarmists–the dominant force in climate science today–are not scientists. They are propagandists, doing what propagandists always do: picking and choosing what reason and evidence to account or dismiss in order to fashion the best case for their preferred conclusions. This can be done as easily with hard science as with any other sphere of reason and evidence. Of course it requires a willingness to embrace illogic. Schmidt’s rationalizations for dismissing contrary reason and evidence are, upon inspection, patently untenable. But he can still, in this mode, compile data sets and solve equations and build computer models. He can still be a “scientist,” just an exceedingly bad and dangerous one. ”

    And I have to agree with him – The “scientists” and politicians leading this scare start on the presumption that MMGW is caused by CO2 any evidence to the contray is dismissed, even when the theory is compelling.

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  43. Anonymous says:

    archonix:

    A strong admirer of Churchill, Rumsfeld has quoted him on many occasions lately, getting only into more hot water. In late August Rumsfeld said that his detractors reminded him of Hitler’s appeasers: “Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last.”
    http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=649

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  44. . says:

    European cult of appeasement

    “From the British city of Leeds to Livorno in Italy and from Luxembourg to Ljubljana in Slovenia, multiculturalism is pretty much a bust. Quicksand is the only common ground between Western values and militant Muslim fundamentalism. But some Islamist extremists have found willing partners among leftist radicals who never got over the end of the Cold War — and jump at any opportunity to rumble against whatever government is in power”.
    http://wpherald.com/articles/4196/1/Commentary-Europes-Muslim-parallel-society/European-cult-of-appeasement.html

    “The European cult of appeasement has given free rein to radical imams whose only goal is to Islamicize Christian Europe. The terrain is fertile”.

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  45. Jon says:

    archonix | Homepage | 12.04.07 – 10:42 pm | #

    Excellent stuff – you should write for the BBC.

    I wonder if Herr Jeremy Bowen would be the BBCs Berlin correspondent?

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  46. Ashley Pomeroy says:

    “British Premier Winston Churchill”

    That would be “The controversial British Premier Winston Churchill, whose increasingly belligerent pronouncements have been condemned by international organisations”.

    “QUOTE His fixation on war, and in particular his recent promise to bring destruction to Britain’s beaches, cities, and countryside show that Herr Churchill is an apocalyptic madman UNQUOTE said German foreign minister Joachim von Ribbentrop.”

    “Churchill, who was educated at Harrow, recently declared himself sole head of Britain’s ‘coalition government’, whereupon he sacked tireless peacemaker Lord Halifax” etc

    I assume an imaginary left-wing BBC of 1940 would pooh-pooh the RAF pilots for being a bunch of posh stiffs who were insufficiently diverse.

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  47. Anonymous says:

    You recently signed a petition asking the Prime Minister to
    “Scrap the tv licence.”

    “We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Scrap the tv licence.”

    Details of petition:

    “The TV licence fee represents a monopoly that would not be allowed in any other industry. The licence fee was introduced in a climate that was very different from what we have today. Now people are presented with a large choice in television and radio content, but whatever they choose to watch they are forced to make a payment for BBC services even if they never watch the BBC and have no interest in the output they produce. This represents a monopoly where you have to pay for one companies services regardless of usage. With the many other methods of support and revenue generation available now there is no need to continue what would be rejected immediately by the monopolies and mergers commision in any other industry.”

    Read the Government’s response

    “During the recent review of the BBC’s Royal Charter, the Government considered whether the televison licence was still the best way to fund the Corporation. We also sought the views of members of the public on this and other BBC issues as part of the Charter Review consultations. The television licence fee was widely considered to be the best way to pay for the BBC for the period of the new Charter, that is to say until 2016. None of the alternative funding options would enable the BBC to continue to provide its full range of public services while safeguarding the Corporation’s independence. It was therefore agreed that no changes would be made.

    We have committed to a review of the scope for alternative mechanisms for funding the BBC after the end of the current Charter in 2016. We expect this review to take place around the end of digital switchover in 2012-13, in order to allow for the necessary planning before any changes are implemented.”

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  48. amimissingsomething says:

    some may appreciate this:

    http://newsbusters.org/node/7586

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  49. Biodegradable says:

    Bryan | 12.04.07 – 11:19 pm
    audacious
    daring
    spectacular

    I don’t remember ever seeing those words used, for example, when describing an Israeli counter terrorist operation in Gaza or the West Bank.

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  50. Anonymous says:

    The BBC — ‘A Powerfully Corrosive Internal Culture’:

    http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=041207B

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