Open thread – for comments of general Biased BBC interest:


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  1. Bryan says:

    Now that really was something you could honestly describe as “audacious, daring, spectacular” and “sensational”.

    Biodegradable | 13.04.07 – 5:25 pm

    Yes, those must have been heady days to be in Israel. I’m sorry I wasn’t.

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  2. Anonymous says:

    archduke:
    in depth – “muslims in europe”…

    “Arrestees who are being held at the Segbroek police station in The Hague have a compass in their cell which shows them the direction to Mecca so that they know which way to face when praying. The compass is painted on the ceiling of the cells.

    Why can’t the Dutch give Muslims a moral compass as well? That’s what they really need.

    A shockingly large number of prison inmates everywhere are Muslims. According to French researcher Farhad Khosrokhavar Muslims make up some 70 percent of a total of 60,775 prisoners in France.

    Personally, I suspect there is little difference between crime and Jihad”.
    More
    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2047

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  3. John Reith says:

    Bryan | 13.04.07 – 3:53 pm & Nep Nederlander 13.04.07 – 2:13 pm

    Bryan • if, as you seem to, you really do believe that the BBC employs a secret roomful of censors especially to prevent you and your friends from posting comments on HYS threads, you have completely lost touch with reality.

    As for Nep’s:

    We have seen ….”recommended” numbers going down as well as up

    I don’t suppose a software glitch would explain that?

    Thought not.

    It doesn’t account for the little green men and the black helicopters you’ve seen too.

    I reckon Lee Moore is getting warmer.

    Mix in to his analysis: 1. The requirement to ensure that what gets put up reflects the relative balance of opinion of comments received; and 2. The need to sample more recent messages • so the whole thing isn’t lagging days behind…..and it seems to me – bob’s your uncle.

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  4. Anonymous says:

    Seems you were right Bryan .. “Alan Johnston: Your messages” has been updated ..

    DEBATE STATUS
    Total comments:
    2511
    Published comments:
    1268
    Rejected comments:
    615
    Moderation queue:
    628

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  5. archduke says:

    ” Anonymous | 13.04.07 – 6:41 pm ”

    the completely overlooked CBS 60 minutes story on an British ex-Jihadist hinted at that, where the former Jihadist mentioned that drug dealing was allowed as part of “jihad”. If you were a Muslim dealer and donated part of your profits to the “cause” – and also did not sell drugs to Muslims (only Kaffirs) – then that was totally ok and you were considered part of the Jihad.

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  6. Bryan says:

    Seems you were right Bryan..
    Anonymous | 13.04.07 – 6:53 pm,

    Thanks for that.

    John Reith | 13.04.07 – 6:51 pm,
    Bryan • if, as you seem to, you really do believe that the BBC employs a secret roomful of censors especially to prevent you and your friends from posting comments on HYS threads, you have completely lost touch with reality.

    I’ll accept your gracious apology in advance. Sharpen that sword of yours for the next round.

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  7. pounce says:

    The BBC, breaking news and bad publicity for terrorists.

    Heavy fighting’ in Afghanistan
    American and Afghan troops backed by warplanes have killed more than 35 Taleban militants in the southern province of Helmand, US officials say.

    They say that the militants were killed during a fierce five-hour battle in the district of Sangin.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6552857.stm

    and here is the same story reported 24 hours ago;
    http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Security&loid=8.0.404031284&par=0

    Can somebody please explain how the BBC has no problem reporting within minutes how a British soldier has died, but when one of its Islamic misguided criminals gets slotted (never mind 35 of them) The BBC is not only slow on the uptake, but has a nasty habit of inserting a ‘meanwhile’ or ‘in other news’ article right in there in the first paragraph so as to not only defuse the impact of how badly the terrorists are doing out there, but also to push an image that NATO is losing…

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  8. Biodegradable says:

    John Reith | 13.04.07 – 6:51 pm,
    Bryan • if, as you seem to, you really do believe that the BBC employs a secret roomful of censors especially to prevent you and your friends from posting comments on HYS threads, you have completely lost touch with reality.

    The reality is, Mr Reith, that we have been told by you and other visiting beeboids that forum moderation (censorship) is carried out by a “third party” employed by the BBC.

    For all our asking we have never been told exactly who this “third party” is, nor what exact criteria is used when moderating (censoring).

    Insomuch as we (Joe Public) are not given this information the BBC’s moderation (censorship) is indeed being carried out in secret.

    That’s a fact, not paranoia.

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  9. pounce says:

    Is anybody else here the least bit concerned about the fate of that BBC reporter.
    Me I don’t give a jot and I’ll put money on it the vast majority of Brits aren’t bother either. (Which may explain how only 30,000 people have signed that petition)
    Note to Liberals, BBC staff and Jeremy Bowen.
    Nobody in the world takes the slightest bit of notice to petitions.

    So please, please do us a favour and take the wall to wall coverage of how somebody who was paid to live in the area hasn’t phoned home for a few weeks off the bloody burner. I mean I don’t see the BBC spending as much time and effort when others get kidnapped So why is it different for a bloody reporter.
    BTW if you are going to state that the BBC held a day of action, it would help if you did something constructive. Crying into the TV cameras about what a nice chappie this guy was to the terrorist cause doesn’t cause these idiots to lose any sleep. It’s about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. If you want to scare your bed fellows into action you really have to scare them. Say like saying that the BBC is going to pull out of the area. I mean the faithful wouldn’t dream of losing such a pro terrorist mouthpiece such as the BBC and before you could say Abdul is your mother’s brother. You’ll find Mr BBC reporter walking in of the streets claiming he was abducted by the US.

    [Since you ask, I am concerned for his fate, as I would be for any human being in his position. Please keep discussion of this topic within bounds of decorum. – NS.]

    Edited By Siteowner

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  10. mick in the uk says:

    Heard on radio 4 this morning, with reference to the terrorist attack in the Iraq Parliament buildings …

    “A person took his own life …”

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  11. Bryan says:

    mick in the uk,

    I don’t believe it. No, on second thoughts if it came from the BBC I do believe it.

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  12. archduke says:

    “Insurgents claim Baghdad attack”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6553063.stm

    bizarre. even when the Al-Qaeda Islamists themselves claim that they did it , the BBC is reluctant to mention Al Q or Islamist in the headline.

    “Explosion targets Baghdad bridge
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6547361.stm
    In Iraq, an “explosion” is something that walks around and targets stuff, like bridges.

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  13. cassis says:

    Reith

    I’ve tried several times to log on to the HYS website. And I am denied access.

    I guess my email address is blocked.

    I was a Conservative supporter on the ‘World Debate’ forum (I think it was called) that is BEFORE 9/11 but after that, it became practically impossible to leave a comment – well – unless you were called Mohammed/Nazir.

    That forum has since been abolished but I would love to know if Godless Infidell, Rovers Rovers, Grant Carlson, Lou Knee were still around,

    But anyway – why I am still blocked?

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  14. Jon says:

    JR said “..but down to aliens/sunspots or whatever.” Intersting you should mention aliens.

    You must have heard of the lecture given by Micheal Crichton called “Aliens Cause Global Warming”.

    “My topic today sounds humorous but unfortunately I am serious. I am going to argue that extraterrestrials lie behind global warming. Or to speak more precisely, I will argue that a belief in extraterrestrials has paved the way, in a progression of steps, to a belief in global warming. Charting this progression of belief will be my task today.

    Let me say at once that I have no desire to discourage anyone from believing in either extraterrestrials or global warming. That would be quite impossible to do. Rather, I want to discuss the history of several widely-publicized beliefs and to point to what I consider an emerging crisis in the whole enterprise of science-namely the increasingly uneasy relationship between hard science and public policy.”

    http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote04.html

    I have to point out JR that this was a parody on the whole MMGW bias put out by the BBC “science” commentators among others. (He wasn’t seriously putting forward the hypothesis.)

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  15. Connell says:

    What a f*kin twat, Marcus Brigstocke was in full flow tonight on the Now Show,
    telling us how racist we all are.

    Who the hell commisioned this rubbish and who apart from himself thinks its funny, Ronnie Barker must be turning in his grave!!

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  16. Jon says:

    Here is something else that is never mentioned on the BBC:

    “THIS IS WHAT A TRILLION $ BUYS YOU:
    Britains Hadley Centre, the “Met Office”, which advises the UK government as its prominent climate research source on Kyoto, once published this graph. It shows their belief that by the year 2050 the net benefit of full implementation of the Kyoto Protocol would effectuate a temperature drop of just 0.06 degrees Celcius, compared to the year 2000.
    This reduction would come at a global cost estimated at one trillion dollars.”
    http://www.friendsofscience.org/index.php?ide=6
    And this is by an organisation that promotes the CO2 myth.

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  17. Jon says:

    “British Forces at War: As Witnessed by an American”

    Excellent piece recommended by EU Referendum Blog

    http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/british-forces-at-war-as-witnessed-by-an-american.htm

    See the picture of the woman and child and note the caption.

    “During the third entry, the terrorists were not home, but a woman and two small children were obviously present. 5 Platoon did not throw flashbangs, and their touch was so light that the small children did not cry.”

    This type of reporting should be done by the Jim Muers and Hugh Sykes of the BBC – but this would be too accurate for them – and it would not fit into their “cultural” mindset.

    It’s a real pity really as I am sure if the BBC were to report in this manner not only would it help and support our troops but it would also show just what these so-called “militants” really are and help in their utter defeat.

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  18. Jon says:

    Funny but on my way home from work today I never heard this as the lead article on the Radio5 Live news.

    “Rapist attacks woman pushing pram”

    “The rapist is described as West African in his late 20s or early 30s, 6ft 2in tall, of slim build and with a shaven head. He had yellowing teeth and the bottom row were said to be decaying.”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6553015.stm

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  19. JimBob says:

    pounce:
    Is anybody else here the least bit concerned about the fate of that BBC reporter.

    Not me, no. The BBC give scant regard for around 55 million people who live in this country so why should we care for one of theirs.

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  20. archduke says:

    i couldnt give a toss either.

    the friend of my enemy, is my enemy.

    so if Mr Johnston wants to do a “lord haw haw” in Pallywood with the Islamists that want to kill me and my family, well, he’s welcome to them. couldnt give a toss. he made his bed – he can lie in it.

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  21. Jon says:

    I do understand your points but I am an optimist – I suspect I will be proved wrong but I hope one day the BBC will really see that even when they take the terrorist side – it does not spare them from the real intent of the terrorists cause. Do they really think that appeasing these “militants” that they will be rewarded by them – it only shows their utter weakness – but will the BBC wake to this fact I hope so.

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  22. dave t says:

    One point the BBC keep missing for some reason…the Iraqi Parliament is NOT IN the Green Zone and is guarded by Iraqi forces not US. Didn’t stop the Beeb trying to insinuate that it was all the Yanks fault and it was a very bad day for the coalition. Strange that they also forgot to mention that the death rate has dramatically dropped thanks in part to the surge of US troops and the efforts of the Iraqi Forces.

    18000 reporters and they keep missing what the rest of us find every day within minutes – the whole story….strange that.

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  23. Jon says:

    Do the BBC really think that a petition to free Alan Johnston will do any good – well if the BBC were recieving the petition they would not even consider it.

    “BBC governors rejected a record 63,000 complaints from viewers over the decision to broadcast Jerry Springer The Opera yesterday prompting renewed criticism from offended Christian and “decency” campaigners”

    http://www.mediawatchuk.org/news%20and%20views/Jerry%20Springer%20The%20Opera.htm

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  24. archduke says:

    “I do understand your points but I am an optimist
    Jon | 14.04.07 – 1:14 am ”

    if its any consolation, i was a socialist until the Mohammed Cartoons. that was the tipping point that made me question a lifetime of belief.

    it wasnt 7/7 or 9/11 that did it – it was an obscure Danish newspaper receiving death threats over a few cartoons. thats when it REALLY hit home to me. so yeah. your optimism is well grounded. if it happened to me, then it can happen to lots of other people. and indeed it has.

    (mo cartoons were like a chain reaction that kicked off my discovery of ayaan hirsi ali, libertarianism, the cato letters and lots of other stuff. i seriously started to examine the concept of “freedom” and where it came from…)

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  25. archduke says:

    ” dave t | Homepage | 14.04.07 – 1:30 am |”

    indeed – it was nothing to do with american security. the Times reported that the checkpoints were made up of Georgian, Peruvian and Iraqi forces. the bomber didnt go through an american checkpoint.

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  26. archduke says:

    MacCavity the Cat was run away to the U.S.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6554561.stm

    the last sentence is interesting:
    “The two men had previously never met face-to-face”

    10 years in power and he hasnt met the american president? hello? bit odd that isnt it?

    meanwhile, the bbc headline writers are at it again

    “uk soldier killed in afghanistan”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6553637.stm

    maybe he died in a road accident? or did his gun misfire?

    err.. no

    “The MoD said the attack happened after troops challenged a five-man Taleban team attempting to set up an ambush.”

    and then we get the “lets bash israel” crowd rearing its head again

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/default.stm

    “israel human shiled suspension”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6554487.stm

    i dont remember Hezbollah suspending anyone over the human shields they used during the war of 2006…

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  27. archduke says:

    bbc news 24 just reported that the speaker of iraqi parliament said, and i quote, “that the insurgents would never win”.

    hmm.. i think a “t” word has been replaced there by the bbc.

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  28. Jon says:

    “…i was a socialist until the Mohammed Cartoons. that was the tipping point that made me question a lifetime of belief.”

    I can honestly say that I have never been a socialist, I am what you might call a traditionalist – I hate change just for the sake of it. When its not broken don’t fix it. What turned me against the BBC was the Question Time programme after 9/11, that day the BBc made me ashamed to be British. I had thought until that time that we were indeed a country that believed in fair play and honesty. A country that rallied around our friends in their hour of need, but I was astonished that people living in this country were so full of loathsomeness and hatred at our great ally after they had experienced such a terrible outrage. Words cannot begin to explain what I felt and my disgust for the BBC in setting this up – since then they have gloated not over any atrocity carried out against the US and Israel but also Britain. But my optimism come from this site and others – where people from all walks of life and political leanings have come together to document the utter anti-western hating BBC. My optimism was again awoken when I saw the film by Davaid Aronovitch on the lefts embracing of terrorists, I have never agreed with hardly anything that Aronovitch says but I respect his views. I respect the views of all free people if I agree with them or not, and that is the difference between living in a democracy or a BBC induced Marxist state. This is probably why I have such a bee in my bonnet on the saga of MMGW – I am all for debate and free speech but not bullying tactics. The BBC is being used as a tool to control decent on important issues. Since finding this blog it has opened my eyes to the subtle and not so subtle way the BBC puts across its Marxist dogma. Eulogising over – keep up the good work (peacefully)

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  29. Anonymous says:

    Naturally, of all the eleventy-trillion photographs in the whole world of John Howard that the BBC has access to, the one they decide to use here is, er, unflattering…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6553623.stm

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  30. cassis says:

    I happened to catch the beginning of The World last night, a news programme that starts BBC 4.

    Lead item, Paul Wolfovitz’s problems, with an extraordinary unflattering pic in the background.

    No agenda there then.

    /

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  31. pounce says:

    Jon posted the link;
    http://www.michaelyon-online.com…an- american.htm

    Thanks for that, I’ve forwarded it to all the lads.

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  32. Anonymous says:

    Good news from Iraq…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070414/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_ap_tally

    …So, naturally no sign of it on the BBC…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/default.stm

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  33. Bryan says:

    The BBC takes great pride in itself as a champion of

    *minorities
    *refugees
    *the dispossessed
    *the discriminated against

    And it likes to see itself as fighting for the rights of the little man against the giant, uncaring, money-grubbing conglomerates.

    So I expect that the following story, which combines all these elements, will soon be latched onto by the BBC like a bone by a bulldog:

    Jewish refugee families press for equity

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  34. Alan says:

    “A real hero too much for the BBC ”

    by Andrew Pierce (14 Apr.)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk
    ( go to ‘Comments’)

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  35. Fran says:

    Archduke

    I read this part of your comment

    “and then we get the “lets bash israel” crowd rearing its head again

    “israel human shiled suspension”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world…ast/ 6554487.stm

    i dont remember Hezbollah suspending anyone over the human shields they used during the war of 2006…”

    With interest.

    I then put the words ‘Palestinian’ ‘human’ ‘shield’ into the BBC search engine.

    Now it is unquestionable that Palestinian gunmen and terrorists use their civilian population as human shields as a matter of routine.

    They store and fire Qassam rockets from built up areas and public facilities such as football pitches. Their gunmen hide behind stone throwing youths and children when security operations happen. They place their headquarters and their munitions stores in civilian apartment blocks.

    One might, therefore, have expected at least some of the headlines to imply awareness of this fact.

    Will you be surprised to hear that my search turned up piece after piece on the wicked Israelis using Palestinian civilians as human shields. The others headlined brave Palestinians or westerners acting as human shields to prevent the nasty Israeli troops from targetting Palestinians.

    In several of those cases, the Palestinians concerned had been involved in the murder of Israeli civilians and openly desired the destruction of the State of Israel.

    There was ONE, only one result in the first 3 pages which acknowledged Palestinian use of human shields in the headline.

    So the BBC headline disputacious claims that the IDF use civilians as human shields when they are totally silent about the undoubted and routine Palestinian use of the very same tactic.

    So, in the BBC’s curious paradigm, Palestinians can’t be responsible for the consequences their culture of sacrificing children at the altar of ‘Hate Israel’ – and the Israelis are wicked for daring to defy them by defending their children and their country from those who would annihilate them if they got half a chance.

    More Jew-hatred anyone?

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  36. Alan Man says:

    archduke:
    (mo cartoons were like a chain reaction that kicked off my discovery of ayaan hirsi ali, libertarianism, the cato letters and lots of other stuff. i seriously started to examine the concept of “freedom” and where it came from…)

    You are not alone in this. I was in Denmark when 7/7 happened but it was not until the cartoon controversy that I realized there was something seriously wrong about Western societies, media in particular.

    BBC epitomizes everything that is wrong by glorifying thugs and murderers and by calling terrorists ‘militants’ or ‘gunmen’.

    What strikes me is that so few newspapers actually published the motoons. They did not do this out of respect for religious beliefs but cowardice.

    The ‘misguided criminals’ that blew up the London tube were not motivated by teachings of Al-Qaeda and they did not pervert the peaceful religion of islam. They were motivated by orthodox islam that specifically mandates violence against unbelievers.

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  37. Stuck-record says:

    Great amusement on the Today programme this morning.

    John Humphrey’s spluttering with moral indignation (and some considerable confusion) about the £250 million profit a hedge-fund manager has just been paid. Whatever your position re capitalism (I’m all for it, but still think that a £250 million salary is probably a wee bit too much for a single individual) it was very funny to hear Humphrey’s confused hypocrisy. It’s been mentioned many times on this site that one of the BBC’s bugbears is capitalism = bad. So it was clear from his questioning that he genuinely believes that capitalism is a zero-sum game: you pay one person more, you must pay the other person less.

    The simple concept that people might actually be creating money that didn’t previously exist and taking a share of that, is lost on him. He clearly didn’t understand the concept of what the city even does • in terms of investment in companies growth. It was explained to him by the two guests: one of whom was Ken Livingstone’s financial adviser, who had presumably been invited on the program to back Mr Humphrey’s moral indignation up. Unfortunately he failed to live up to his role, as his socialist master is totally in favour of the city (naked rampant capitalism) making as much money as it possibly can in order that he can get more tax — to give to Muslim fundamentalist loonies.

    Funny then, that Mr Humphrey’s doesn’t take the same zero-sum position over his own salary. I don’t know the exact figure, but would presume that Mr Humphrey’s — in line with other major BBC figures — would be paid a minimum of £500,000 a year. By his reasoning, does this mean that he’s taking money out of the pockets of other poor BBC employees?

    Or would he make the case that he is worth such an enormous ‘fat-cat’ salary because he brings viewers and listeners to the radio station; thereby increasing listenership? Err… no, that would be a bit too much like capitalism.

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  38. Fran says:

    Stuck record

    Nice one!

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  39. archduke says:

    well done green fascists.

    right after the kids programs on channel 5 theres a big scarey advert about “climate change”

    http://www.climatechallenge.gov.uk

    nice way to brainwash a generation of kids.

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  40. archduke says:

    ” Stuck-record | 14.04.07 – 9:26 am |”

    ha! nice one.

    its rather nice to wake up to a fresh bit of fisking in the morning. thank you.

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  41. archduke says:

    “Alan Man | 14.04.07 – 9:17 am |”

    i dont know if you remember the story of the Manchester based magazine that wanted to print the cartoons – but the police wouldnt guarantee the safety of the staff. the editor wanted to publish, but knowing that he and his staff might possibly get death threats he rang ahead to the local cops, just in case.

    no guarantee of protection was provided, so he didnt publish.

    that was one of the big tipping points for me during that debacle.

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  42. archduke says:

    ” Jon | 14.04.07 – 3:36 am ”

    i just grew up in a socialist family – you know the type. grand-dad voted labour, dad voted labour – your aunts and uncles voted labour. that sort of thing. i didnt really “become” a socialist – more just grew up as one.

    with increasing voter apathy and signs of traditional labour voters moving to the BNP (and even UKIP) ,it looks like i’m not the only one whos had to seriously requestion their politics in the wake of 911, 7/7 and Mo Cartoons.

    MMGW is another one thats really making me see first-hand the bullying tactics of the extreme left.

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  43. Bryan says:

    Here’s a breakdown of the comments to the Alan Johnston HYS

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&edition=1&ttl=20070414092200&messageID=2651762�

    at 3:53 pm yesterday:

    DEBATE STATUS
    Total comments:1906
    Published comments:1234
    Rejected comments:0
    Moderation queue:672

    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/3451009318172767397/#337388

    And here’s the breakdown at 6:53 pm:

    DEBATE STATUS
    Total comments:2511
    Published comments:1268
    Rejected comments:615
    Moderation queue:628

    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/3451009318172767397/#337415

    And here’s the current breakdown:

    DEBATE STATUS
    Total comments:1979
    Published comments:1462
    Rejected comments:0
    Moderation queue:517

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&edition=1&ttl=20070414092200&messageID=2651762�

    I’m sure all those people who have had comments rejected (I’m one of them) will be happy to learn that the comments have now been unrejected, again, and will be checking the thread to find their published comments.

    Funny thing is, though, that all those rejected comments that have now been welcomed back into the fold have not increased the total number of comments or the number of published comments.

    Hmmmm. Technical difficulties, BBC?

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  44. Stuck-record says:

    Thanks Archduke

    re the tipping point for each person.

    Mine had been building for years before 2001. It was the drip, drip, drip of the constant hectoring tone on the Today programme/Newsnight and BBC News reports. I became increasingly frustrated with the obsession for constructing studio-based arguments between political apologists, and the reliance on punditry instead of trying to find out what was actually happening — or even (horror of horrors) reporting what was going on — in the world.

    The last straw, however, was definitely 9/11. There were so much gloating that day and so much snide innuendo, from the usual suspects, that ‘America had got a bloody nose’. I felt sick. To this day I will turn the radio off whenever Jeremy Hardy comes on. On the News quiz a few days after 9/11 he said something along the lines of “Tony Blair is going to love this”; presumably because it would allow him to do all the ‘dreadful’ policies that Mr Hardy disapproved of. It got huge laugh. 3000 people murdered, and a rich ‘socialist’ comedian gets a laugh out of it.

    Eeuurgh.

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  45. archduke says:

    those Muslims. they are in Europe. and its in depth. again. for the zillionth day running…

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/default.stm

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  46. archduke says:

    “suicide attack on iraqi holy city”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6554887.stm

    last time i checked , Karbala wasnt a holy city to 98 per cent of the British population.

    and its quite remarkable how automobiles appear to kill themselves in Iraq:

    “At least 47 people have been killed and more than 60 hurt in a suicide car bomb attack

    maybe the movie “Cars” is actually a documentary perhaps.

    and the capital “p” appears later on:

    “The attack occurred about 200m from the Imam Hussein shrine, where the grandson of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad is believed to be buried.”

    well , at least they mentioned “Islam” before the “P” word.

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  47. archduke says:

    “British forces at war : as witnessed by an American”

    Michael Yon writes about Brits in combat in Basra:
    http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/british-forces-at-war-as-witnessed-by-an-american.htm

    this picture was taken after the battle:
    http://www.michaelyon-online.com/media/images/disp/Arezzo/Photo9.jpg

    (note how battle hardened they appear… makes a nice change from “those bad Iranians stole my ipod”…)

    quote:
    “In an operation that lasted over four hours, British forces killed 26-27 enemy and sustained no casualties. 5 Platoon fired more than 4,000 bullets before their guns began to cool, and about 15 of the enemy kills were accredited to 5 Platoon”

    how come these battles are not being reported in depth by the BBC? i dont recall a 6 o clock news banner headline saying that our boys whacked 27 terrorists in a major gun battle.

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  48. Gloating Beeboid says:

    Tee Hee.

    It seems 18 Doughty Street is changing its spots.

    When Doughty Street launched, it said aiming for BBC-style impartiality/objectivity was a bad thing – and upfront, unashamed bias was good.

    Now 18 Doughty Street is re-branding itself as a provider of ‘non-partisan….news and current affairs’.

    When 18 Doughty Street launched, it employed B-BBC approved presenters. According to Guido, it’s now hired Yasmin Ailibhai-Brown and Peter Tatchell as presenters.

    Or, as Andrew Marr might put it, it’s starting down the road of becoming an “urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people.” (Well, if not ‘an abnormally large number’, at least • a few.) How long before a ‘socially liberal mindset’ takes root?

    So why the volte face ?

    Because Doughty Street’s diet of B-BBC-style bias allegations against public service broadcasters and generally reactionary assumptions drove even viewers who thought they we were signing-up for ToryTV away in their….um…..dozens. It seems there is insufficient demand for your B-BBC ideas prejudices- in fact, almost no demand at all, even on the internet.

    The moral of this story is: the sorts of opinions and worldview that characterize this blog have turned out to be pure commercial poison. In the longer run, about the only place they’re ever likely to find expression is on licence-fee funded telly in a public service ‘cranks’ corner’.

    What delicious irony….

    http://www.order-order.com/

    http://18doughtystreet.com/blog/123

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  49. bob says:

    Thanks for that, Archduke. Finally, I can feel informed on important news regarding the British forces that reflects so much credit on them. And, it goes without saying, it’s positive news of our forces’ success and bravery, which means we’ll NEVER hear about it thru our “British” Broadcasting Company

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  50. archduke says:

    “Gloating Beeboid | 14.04.07 – 11:27 am |”

    its more that they are trying to keep Ofcom off their backs.

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