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Just to add to my earlier criticism of the BBC’s ‘news’ website, I notice Sky’s is no better.
Mind you, I don’t have to pay for Sky.
From The Sunday Times
July 1, 2007
Baghdad ER
After one of the grimmest months of carnage in Iraq, this is a brilliant report from Baghdad on the American military surgeons who, to the sound of cowboy music, fight for the lives of soldiers and civilians
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article2009561.ece
Don’t expect to see this kind of Iraq reporting on the BBC anytime soon.
Oscar
I realise that nobody or religion invented capitalism as such, it did in reality simply evolve. However the western modern free market variation of it is very largly controlled and owned by Jews. Who are not concentrated in one geographic area but spread over the entire western world and some of the rest of it.
The point is that the Jews controll the FREE moving part of capitalism. This because they exsisted as a people for a long time as outsiders in community. Instead of investing in land that could at anytime be stolen by one type of despot or another, they have invested their wealth in the form of gold and movable assets of one type or another. Over time this free wealth has grown to astronomic proportions.
The most free part is also the most risky part. Which is also the bit that makes for the best rewards when succesfull. It is this movement of free money that socialist governments detest and dispise the most. For the reason that up to recently they could not only not controll it they can not survive economically well or finance non profitable losing wars for long.
Socialism is a dishonest method of trying to “solve” this “problem,” which to many like myself is not only not a problem it is the only known and tried and tested way to assist ordinary people to create independent wealth and therefore individual and national freedom at the same time IMO.
A socialist however believes the exact opposite.
It is the above that to me defines the basic and only real and relevent difference between the modern day left and right divide in national and international politics.
The trouble with politicians is that they are almost by default incapable of creating wealth and getting rich themselves by their own witts. Not only because they are stupid lazy and middle class, its because it is far easier and takes far less time to simply fan the flame of human envy and rob the cash as best they can. Then it is to try to simply administer a free competitive democratic liberal econemy.
FookSirIqbal (an honour to be addressing a muslim knight-of-the-realm, sir):
the repulsive jenkins has been pushing firmly for the Islamic terrorists for some time now, always with the mantra “let’s deal with these minor disturbances through the courts, like the purely criminal matter it is”. Thanks a lot, Sir Simon: who was is that failed to convict Lamine “those dancing slags” Adam, then (to compound matters) allowed him to absond his jokily-named “control order”? Oh yes – the wonderful Bristish courts. Thanks again Sir Simon, nice work! What redress do we, the Britisg public, have against such moronic ‘commentators’?
“The point is that the Jews controll the FREE moving part of capitalism.”
Maybe thats why Guardianistas hate Israel and hate Rupert Murdoch. Especially Rupert Murdoch, being a Jew he wants to homosexualise the Communise the earth through his monolithic control of right wing media like Fox News.
bob
Shock horror, socialism is now days a fundamentally racist ideology.
How can anyone IMO with eyes and ears and a free mind to think for themselves, believe anything else?
It is socialists that have insisted that the police in this country have to ask the racial backgrownd of every person they come into direct contact with.
It is socialists that delliberately import other races into Britain to boost their electorial chances.
It is socialists that talk the language of anti-semitism.
It is socialists that have insisted on employment in government organisations and housing to be distributed according to RACIAL identity.
RACE obsesses socialism to a incredibly dangerous and highly divisive level.
Whereas a capitalist is only interested in making a profit on investment not what colour a persons skin is or what country they come from. As I have said before socialism hates and dispises capitalism more then it loves its own mother or even in many cases human life itself.
Sir Iqbal says
Licence paying peasant bob you ask:
What redress do we, the Britisg public, have against such moronic ‘commentators’?
Under the new Sharia laws that the newly divinly appointed (for he was not elected and shall inshallah never have to submit to the concent of the common rabble of Brihtannian Kaffirs) …. Emir Ghassem Brooun will introduce peasants like YOU WILL HAVE NO REDRESS for that in essence is the , magic and spirt of Islam (Submission).
Submit and obey! That is what you must learn to do!
Wassallam ul Alikeum!
Peace
I don’t know if Mr. Hassan Butt, who was a confessed Islamic Jihadist until early 2006, can be trusted, but now he claims to be an anti-Jihadist and says this:
“When I was still a member of what is probably best termed the British Jihadi Network, a series of semi-autonomus British Muslim terrorist groups linked by a single ideology, I remember how we used to laugh in celebration whenever people on TV proclaimed that the sole cause for Islamic acts of terror like 9/11, the Madrid bombings and 7/7 was Western foreign policy.”
“My plea to fellow Muslims: You must renounce terror” (1 July).
http://observer.guardian.co.uk
(go to ‘Comment’).
Yes Hassan Butt will by now have had his name expunged from the Today address book
Hassan Butt, who was once a member of radical group Al-Muhajiroun, raising funds for extremists and calling for attacks on British citizens, explains why he was wrong
By blaming the government for our actions, those who pushed the ‘Blair’s bombs’ line did our propaganda work for us. More important, they also helped to draw away any critical examination from the real engine of our violence: Islamic theology.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2115832,00.html
Hassan Butt forget to add: “… and dancing slags”
Sir Iqbal is pleased
The levels of dhimmitude that are being shown by the Britthani establishment are rising ma’shallah!
The recent BBC symphony “Beautiful Names Concert (99 Names of Allah)” held at Masjeed-e-Westminster on the command of Noor al Islam Prince Charles is a first step in the right direction.
Here is the beautiful names nasheed ..
Sir Iqbal is down with the lyrics .. at 50 secs we have
A breastfeeding woman gets one good deed for each drop of Milk that is fed to the child”
the lyrics are WicKed & KINKY
SUBMIT BRITTHANI KAFFIRS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
Submittence (Peace) upon U
O/T, but FookSirIqbal – having mentioned breasts, I’d welcome your views on this recent edict
Fatwa allows breast-feeding among adults
Ezzat Attiya had issued a fatwa, or religious edict, saying adult men could breast-feed from female work colleagues as a way to avoid breaking Islamic rules that forbid men and women from being alone together.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1178708655924
Sir Iqbal is glad!
Our conversion of Brittanians is going to plan!
http://www.rahmana4.piczo.com/?cr=7&rfm=y
check video of Islam’s newest Britthani reverts
Wa Salam (Submit fools)
Sir Iqbal advises:
will:
O/T, but FookSirIqbal – having mentioned breasts, I’d welcome your views on this recent edict
Fatwa allows breast-feeding among adults
Ma’shallah Will … Ma’shallah
I see that even on these boards filled as they are with kufar and Jewsmany lie you are looking to me for guidance.
Let me say that the feeding of breasts by young women to fully grown men is not only allowed but highly emcouraged! Indeed the Profi Muhhamed (PBUH) partook of this with his numerous pre-pubecent wives including the wife og his brother …
May I suggest that any young dhimmi females who are looking to indulge in this holy activity call me … especialy if they look anything like the girl in the seraphine.com maternity advert to the right of the blessed article.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1178708655924
Peace Peace Peace …. Submit Submit Submit!
Ultra violets
Now days this right wing left wing thing confuses more then enlightens.
I choose to keep it very SIMPLE
To me anything that smacks of not being libertarian is left wing. Whether it comes from left wing corporate Fascists like R.Murdoch G.Soros or H.Ford or not.
Simply put it is impossible to imagine a libertarian sociaty of any real worth that does not evolve and revolve around free market liberal economics the rule of simple common law and written in blood property rights.
Which is why and only why I always describe myself as RIGHT WING.
Just because Murdoch exsists in a capitalist system does not make him personally a libertarian. Its the enforcement of strick rules on monopolies and the actions of a truely free market in the media business that makes Murdochs own personal political viewpoint not materially important in any possible way.
Adam Smith strongly warned against government liecence and monopoly power in any industry. Which is as we all should know is the foundations of a corporate Fascist econemy. Very much like the type Gordon Brown has been working so hard to inflict on the British people for the last 10 years. This is the reason why Murdoch supports Gordon Brown, he knows a good old fasioned corporate fascist when he (is giving him very big brown parcels sorry) sees one.
Governments around the world just cant seem to let go of their controll of the media. They see it as just far to risky. After all the prolls might all start eating their own babies if the media market was truely free, or so our ruling elites seem to believe anyway.
It is this international and national government megleomania that enables Murdoch to become as powerfull as he is. Which incidently is not anywhere near as powerfull as the British Broadcasting CORPORATION.
“RACE obsesses socialism to a incredibly dangerous and highly divisive level.”
Aye, we all know how Red Ken is obbessed with Judaism and “concentration camp guards”. It all comes out when you’re drunk.
Richy wrote;
500 posts, only about 2% of which relate to BBC bias.
Boring.
And I’ll put my money on the table and say the likes of ‘*ookSirIqbal’ is somebody who is playing the game to turn people away from this blog.
Sir Iqbal points out:
Years of Al Beeb and MSM propaganda is working!
Slags are reverting to Islam (not converting as we are all truely muslims to begin with)
SirIqbal says get a scarf on you slag
SirIqbal says stop huggin the Imam you slag
REVERT KURRARS REVERT
BBC latest on Glasgow terrorist attack: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/scotland/6258758.stm
Terrorist suspects ‘not Scottish’
Well, rattle my sporran, that’s a surprise!
Mr Sarwar said people in the Muslim and Asian communities were “very angry”.
Meanwhile the poor natives just have to grin and bear it?
Biodegradable wrote;
“Perhaps pounce or somebody will correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought that to convert to Islam all one had to do was to repeat three times before witnesses the name of Allah.”
Don’t take my word for it, here is something the BBC made earlier on the very subject;
Living Allah’s way
Beginner’s guide to Islam
It only requires a very simple act, but the meaning behind it is very deep.
You have to believe that there is only one God, Allah, who created the entire universe, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is his final messenger on earth.
If you recite this, with total sincerity, in front of two witnesses, you have become a Muslim. It really is as simple as that.Muslims call this recitation the Shahadah, and refer to it as the first Pillar of Islam.And if you become a Muslim by converting (some Muslims would say “reverting”) to Islam your fellow Muslims will accept you as if you had been born a Muslim.
Submitting to God
Becoming a Muslim takes you into a new world.It’s a world in which you are intensely aware of your relationship with Allah, and aware that everything in the world exists because Allah chose that it should.This gives life a whole new meaning, it lifts many responsibilities, and replaces them with the single aim of living life in the way that Allah wants you to live it.So when you become a Muslim you have to live Allah’s way. Every moment of your life has to follow Allah’s will. Every choice you make must be the choice that would please Allah.This may sound pretty constricting to people brought up in cultures that put more emphasis on the individual and what they want. A Muslim would disagree.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/conversion/beginner_1.shtml
big queues outside the heathrow terminal building because of “increased security”.
surely that creates an even bigger target for petrol driven jihad?
Rupert Murdoch, being a Jew he wants to homosexualise the Communise the earth through his monolithic control of right wing media like Fox News.
Ultraviolets | 01.07.07 – 1:38 pm
The only references I can to find to Murdoch being Jewish are on far-right web sites like stormfront and jewwatch.com
Jews did not invent capitalism any more than they killed Jesus Christ, and if it’s true that Jews run the world it only shows that the Malaysian ex-prime minister isn’t a raging nut case.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-gb&q=jews+run+the+world&btnG=Search
after 3 attacks in my country i was expecting muslim leaders to come out saying.
lets catch theses killers,or help the police .
no their only intrested in their muslim brothers
Scotland’s only Muslim MP has said that threats have been made towards members of the Muslim community, following the Glasgow Airport attack.
Mohammad Sarwar told BBC Scotland that he had received calls from people who had been threatened or targeted by abusive graffiti.
Two Asian men were arrested after ramming a burning car into the airport’s main terminal.
Muslim leaders in Scotland were also holding an emergency meeting.
They have expressed concern about community relations.
Mr Sarwar, MP for Glasgow Central, said Imams from every mosque in the country had been invited to attend the meeting, at the Islamic Centre in Glasgow.
“I have spoken to a number of people from the Muslim community and the Asian community who feel very angry,” he said.
“They’re concerned about a backlash and that’s why the emergency meeting has been called.”
Mr Sarwar said the meeting would discuss the implications of the attack for the Muslim community in Scotland.
‘Senseless attacks’
He described an incident in Lanarkshire where graffiti had been daubed stating: “Kill all Pakis starting with Mohammad Sarwar”.
Other high profile Scottish Muslims have also spoken of their anger over the attack.
Osama Saeed, from the Muslim Association of Great Britain, said he was “seething”.
“We are sick of being defined as a community by terrorism and having to answer for it,” he said.
“No cause, and certainly no Muslim cause, is advanced by these senseless attacks – quite the opposite.
“We wish this had not happened and hope that there is no more.”
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/scotland/6258544.stm
Richy wrote;
500 posts, only about 2% of which relate to BBC bias.
Boring.
Pounce replied:
And I’ll put my money on the table and say the likes of ‘*ookSirIqbal’ is somebody who is playing the game to turn people away from this blog.
I agree, it’s a deliberate strategy.
WTF pounce and radical are doing a jihad against me! I will run away!
No, Fook, don’t go. I haven’t laughed so much for weeks.
You’re more of a Droll than a Troll.
Al JAzeera & BBC Biased?! Never
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1183053071940&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Re-Sarwar & his running dogs: since they’re always on about “root causes” (Iraq, Palestine, ‘you’re killing my people’, on and on ad nauseam), he might like to look at the “root causes” for the graffiti and other shocking examples of “islamophobia” – root causes like “every time there’s a murderous attempt to kill hundreds of innocent citizens in this country, it’s ALWAYS a muslim who’s behind it. That’s a pretty fair “root cause”
Have Our Say is still not working!
BBC Sort it out!
Simple answer to this, stop letting these people into the country.
Big Dave, CreWe
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http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=2&threadID=6686&edition=1&ttl=20070701161040&#paginator
Jo: just because you regard being a BNP thug as a minor misdemeanour – after all, murdering people with brown skin is hardly on the same level as, er, murdering people – it does not mean that anyone who disagrees with you is an apologist for murder. It sounds to me like you are casting off your deserved tag as a BNP apologist-by-stealth on to someone who hates Fascism in all its form and has been fighting it since before you were whelped. If you were able to read, which I doubt, you could check back on my entries on HaloScan and find out what I have to say about BBC know-nothingism, useful-idiotism, and general fondness for tyrants and murderers. But you will never do that, because it would mean admit that you have your foot in your gob all the way to your gullet. Besides, there is the matter of principle. To you, all murderers are not created equa. You think that murderers come in different degrees, and BNP shits smell nicer than Islamofascist shits. So perhaps you would not understand. To me, murder is murder, and tyranny is tyranny. And you are you, that is dishonourable and contemptible.
Ultraviolets | 01.07.07 – 1:38 pm
That comment should probably be deleted. It’s only funny in private.
Fabio, one wee question (maybe two): how many nazis do you think are in this country? And how many people do you think are concerned by the policy of open-door immigration?
Compare & Contrast
BBC censored eyewitness footage
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6258544.stm
on right eyewitness footage
Eyewitness Stephen Clarkson
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6250000/newsid_6257300/6257318.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm
Eyewitness Simon Howard
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6250000/newsid_6257600/6257644.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm
Eyewitness Richard Grey
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6250000/newsid_6257600/6257644.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm
the real uncensored eyewitness footage
John Smetten
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2007/06/30/sot.glasgow.smitten.eyewitness.cnn
once the edited out bits are included one gets a very different picture
Let’s reiterate… Sarwar says:
“I have spoken to a number of people from the Muslim community and the Asian community who feel very angry,” he said.
“They’re concerned about a backlash and that’s why the emergency meeting has been called.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6258544.stm
They’re angry – not about the terrorist attack but about a perceived potential backlash even though Scotland’s First Minister states:
“We have a hugely important minority community in Scotland,” he added.
“They do tremendous things for Scottish life, for the Scottish economy. They’re very much valued as part of Scottish society.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6259032.stm
“then again, there were certain “rules” in that war – the PIRA wouldnt take over a school and massacre all the kids a la Beslan. nor would they hijack airplanes and fly them into skyscrapers. even though they were ruthless bastards, there was a certain ruleset to that war.”
Not so – on at least two occasions the IRA tied drivers into their cars and forced them to drive to SF bases with bombs otherwise the driver’s families would be killed. I seem to recall at least poor sod who blew up at the SF Base gates whilst the soldiers were trying to cut him free. Time and again IRA attacked purely civilian targets or killed from behind whilst wearing civilian clothes and then tried to claim they were an Army fighting a just war despite breaking every rule going. Please don’t try to imply the IRA were more “civilised” than the current crop of terrorists – they weren’t – who do you think the current lot learnt their trade from? There are known links between the IRA and various Muslim organisations and many training camps in Syria/Libya were run by IRA instructors.
“We have a hugely important minority community in Scotland,” he added.
“They do tremendous things for Scottish life, for the Scottish economy. They’re very much valued as part of Scottish society.”
Unless you are a member of the biggest minority in Scotland – the English- in which case Salmond doesn’t give a damm about you…..
‘The Jews’ didnt’ invent capitalism but a Jew certainly invented Communism – God forgive him. Not to mention the fact that Israel was founded as a socialist state and most American Jews vote Democrat.
And if we control the world economy I want to know where my cut is! 😉
“They do tremendous things for Scottish life, for the Scottish economy.”
Such as….?
BBC Editorial Guidelines in Full
War, Terror & Emergencies
We should let other people characterise while we report the facts as we know them….We should not adopt other people’s language as our own.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/editorialguidelines/edguide/war/mandatoryreferr.shtml
Not so much a BBC bias posting as a ‘BBC are as useless as everyone else posting’.
Former CIA officer putting the Tiger Tiger non-bomb into perspective.
‘(Larry) what happens if you actually manage to spark this device?’
‘It’s going to do a lot of damage to the interior of the Mercedes’.
Quite.
So not ‘100s could have been killed and injured’ as my (and everyone else’s) paper had it.
‘You wouldn’t want to be in the car when it happenened but if somebody was within 20 or 30 feet of it they would have ear damage and not much more’
And not as John Stevens suggested ‘The tactics of Baghdad or Bali’.
It is absolutely shocking to me how much our new spin-free government has hyped this up along with the media. Even I, who know nothing about explosives, could see that the nails and sundry shrapnel, rather than causing ‘carnage’ would just have sat where they were if the gas canisters had gone up.
Roxana: no “Jew” invented Communism. The person usually called a Jew, Karl Marx, was a second-generation, fully integrated Prussian and a vicious anti-Semite. Some of the stupider enemies of Marxism resurrected his distant Jewish ancestry to discredit him in the eyes of right-thinking racists and to distance him from the glory that was Prussia, but the truth is that Marx was a Prussian of the Prussians. Go and read Leopold Schwarzschild’s The Red Prussian, reprinted in 1984, a marvellous attack on Marx and Marxism by a writer who had fought Prussian militarism and Nazism for fifty solid years. I mentioned stupid enemies of Marxism: this book is a magnificent example of the most intelligent, enlightened, wise kind of opposition. So, Jo, you stay away from it.
They provide essential training drills for the emergency services?
Further to my comment above about the BBC’s continual references to our ‘wettest June since records began’ as further proof of global warming. As would of course have been the driest June etc.
So a nice covering of bases there.
I’m awaiting an average month to arrive which no doubt will be used as even stronger proof that we have global warming.
Behold the Peace of Islam: Picture of the Week:
How much more Islam can Britain take?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Calling a spade a spade
In a column in Sunday’s News of the World newspaper, Lord Stevens, London’s former police chief and Brown’s new terrorism adviser, said: “This weekend’s bomb attacks signal a major escalation in the war being waged on us by Islamic terrorists.”
“Officers from the Metropolitan Police Service’s Counter Terrorism Command, supporter by officers from the West Midlands Counter Terrorism Unit, made the arrests on the M6 in Cheshire near Sandbach.”…
No doubt the BBC would appear to want to call these Police “Counter Militant Units”
Good Afternoon B-BBCer’s
“Even I, who know nothing about explosives, could see that the nails and sundry shrapnel, rather than causing ‘carnage’ would just have sat where they were if the gas canisters had gone up.”
Sorry Joe but this needed a good fisking.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=CBVRO44AX2VCVQFIQMGSFF4AVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/07/01/nterr801.xml
But to ponder Joe’s point regarding the London attack.
The sort of carnage we are talking about should be very clear even to the layman-
Take one flaming car with the shrapnel next to nightclub,that goes bang.
Think of all that liquer,glass,plate mirrors,decor going up like a fire ball-think of that ‘sharpnel’ turning into tiny little bullets-slicing through skimmpy tops and jeans.
Think of the evacuation-people taking cover in the little side ally,scared,possibly drunk or on drugs.All those police,ambulence,fire crews etc on the way.
Think of the second car packed with explosives.
You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure the rest.
I’ve just this second come back via Bournemouth from the UK.Every station was full of police (armed as well) and there was an ‘edge’….
No this is the real deal me thinks.
Five arrested over car bomb terror attacks
Controlled explosion of car at hospital where bomber suspect remains critical
SEE PHOTOS:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465481&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Example of life in a Non-Jewish capitalist society –
OSLO, Norway: A TV journalist who worked for the Al-Arabiya network in the Gaza Strip is seeking asylum in Norway, saying his family was threatened because of his reporting, Norwegian state broadcaster NRK reported.
“We came to Norway because I, my wife and children received death threats, and we decided to leave Gaza where I could not continue as a free-speaking journalist,” Saif el-Deen Shahin was quoted as saying in a report on NRK’s Web site.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/01/europe/EU-GEN-Norway-Gaza-Journalist.php
Another example of life in a Non-Jewish Non-Capitalist society –
Korea’s Oskar Schindler
By CHARLOTTE EAGAR – More by this author »
Last updated at 16:22pm on 30th June 2007
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Anyone caught trying to escape the draconian regime in North Korea risks being shot in sight. One man has devoted his life and his fortune to helping refugees flee to a new life in the South
The sniper on the right will shoot on sight anyone foolish enough to attempt to cross Korea’s Demilitarised Zone – the most heavily mined and fortified strip of land in the world.
The people on the left are some of the 2,000 North Koreans who make it to the other side each year – to a life of wealth and freedom in the capitalist South.
How do they do it? With the help of an ingenious modern day Oskar Schindler
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/live/live.html?in_article_id=465228&in_page_id=1889
P.S. Sorry I dropped the “Non” in relation to Gaza journo
Dave t wrote;
“Not so – on at least two occasions the IRA tied drivers into their cars and forced them to drive to SF bases with bombs otherwise the driver’s families would be killed. I seem to recall at least poor sod who blew up at the SF Base gates whilst the soldiers were trying to cut him free.”
I was based at Lisanelly when one of those events transpired. The poor man they tied into his camper van was only saved because the huge concrete blast walls you had to enter to access the camp prevented the radio signal from getting through to the device. Thus saving the QRF from becoming pavement pizza.
The guy who died in Londenderry was named Gillespie.
and if you want a laugh have a butchers at this prat.
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/06/london-bomb–wh.html