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Brown says Britain under ‘continuous threat’ from terrorism:
What did Brown expect when the Labour Party have allowed the Threat to live in Britain and multiply???
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/77724.html
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hillhunt:
I don’t have any difficulty taking this woman seriously, do you?
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1555
June 18, 2007
The Hamas, MI6, BBC axis
indigenous:
I don’t have any difficulty taking this woman seriously, do you?
http://www.melaniephillips.com
As a woman, no. As a commentator, yes.
Sir Iqbal Says
Let Us Never Forget! As Al Beeb Reminds Us Every Day – Gaza is the Worlds Largest Open Prision
Heart rending comments here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6253312.stm
still praise be to Allah, the streets are now safe and the trains all run on time!
hillhunt:
Do I detect that you have difficulty with Knights of the Realm?
Over his illustrious life, Patrick has received a whole host of prestigious accolades. In 2001, Patrick received a knighthood from the Queen. In the same year, he won a BAFTA for his services to television and became a member of the Royal Society.
http://www.universityscience.ie/pages/scientists/sci_patrick_moore.php
Be careful who you aim at, you may shoot yourself in the foot.
As a woman, no. As a commentator, yes.
hillhunt | 29.06.07 – 6:00 pm
There are none so blind as they who will not see.
hillhunt, Thom Boston, R.I.P.
LEBANON: AL-ZARQAWI’S BROTHER MAY BE HIDING IN PALESTINIAN CAMP
Beirut, 28 June (AKI) – The brother of the former leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Jordanian-born militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, may be hiding in a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon which has been at the centre of bloody clashes between the Lebanese army and Islamist fighters, a Lebanese newspaper said on Thursday. The daily al-Safir said “judicial sources from several Arab countries” believe that the man, Muhammad Khalayla is in the Nahr al-Bared campaign hiding with the Islamists of the Fatah al-Islam group.
According to the sources which the newspaper did not identify by name, Khayala sought refuge in the camp along with a militant from Yemen Hamza al-Qubti, who is wanted on terrorism charges by the Saudi authorities.
The leader of Fatah al-Islam, Shaker al-Absi, who is also believed to be hiding in Nahr al-Bared, was sentenced to death in absentia together with al-Zarqawi after the two were convicted in the 2002 assassination of an American diplomat in Amman.
US forces killed al-Zarqawi in Iraq last June.
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.430283748&par=0
Anyway why is Millibands ancestory relevent.
“Despite the BBC’s confidence that Israel would welcome a Jewish foreign secretary, some government officials in Jerusalem – not knowing of Miliband’s Jewish background – noted that a few of the most withering of Israel’s critics in England are Jews. ”
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1183053060735&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
I would think that this is the relevent part.
“Miliband’s father, a Marxist theoretician, was originally from Poland, and moved to England in 1940 from Belgium. His brother, Ed, is also a minister in Brown’s cabinet.”
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1183053060735&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
The whole labour party is awash with (ex) Marxists. Its the same looney left from the 70s and 80s
hillhunt:
Musing further on the BBC female news presenter and the words “METROPOLITAN FORCE” maybe she was apparently unable to utter the word “Police” as it is a dirty word in certain circles.
OUR ROADS ARE DOOMED!
AS YOU TRAVEL about the country on its congested roads and overcrowded railways, you might think that Transport would be a priority area for the Government.
So what does Gordon Brown do? He appoints Ruth Kelly as Transport Secretary.
Now, we should all give ministers time to settle in.
But this is the same Ruth Kelly who has shown herself to have the opposite of the Midas touch wherever she has been?
She hardly covered herself in glory at Education and masterminded the disastrous Home Information Packs at the Department for Communities and Local Government.
http://www.express.co.uk/blogs/post/264/blog/2007/06/29/11727/Our%20roads%20are%20doomed!
still praise be to Allah, the streets are now safe and the trains all run on time!
FookSirIqbal | 29.06.07 – 6:03 pm
Plenty of whinging from the “Palestinians”, meanwhile this is getting buried deeper by the hour:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6250390.stm
Sssh… don’t let the plebs know that the Jews are doing good things, mustn’t spoil the plot.
And don’t forget the bottom lines for balance:
Israel has sealed off Gaza from the outside world since the takeover, because Hamas’s charter calls for the destruction of the Jewish state.
Not a good enough reason to seal the border according to Al-Beeb…
The move has raised alarms about the humanitarian impact on Gaza’s largely impoverished 1.5 million inhabitants.
That’s the largely impoverished 1.5 million inhabitants who largely voted for the party that calls for the destruction of the Jewish state.
Those Jews are so irrational and unfair!
Gaza’s borders have been closed for long periods since the Israeli withdrawal from the strip in 2005.
Indeed, for the reasons given above.
Chutzpah: “We want to kill you! Now open the borders so we can eat, give us aid money, then we’ll kill you!”
Not on the BBC:b
Police also sealed off two more central London streets — Park Lane and Fleet Street — as they investigated other suspicious vehicles.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/876587.html
Sir Iqbal says:
Coming back from Juma Mosque a number of brothers have asked whether the letter “c” in our MCB logo is shaped like a crescent leaving MB … to hint at our Muslim Brotherhood roots …
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/487
I reply sniggering “is the Profit Muhhamad Moslem” … of course we are the Muslim Brotherhood!
Peace Bruvs
a real sbre:
Not on the BBC:b
Police also sealed off two more central London streets — Park Lane and Fleet Street — as they investigated other suspicious vehicles.
Fraid not…
Two other areas of London, in Park Lane and Fleet Street, were cordoned off as suspicious vehicles were investigated.
City of London Police confirmed at 1700 BST (1600 GMT) that a stretch of Fleet Street was cordoned off between Fetter Lane and Ludgate Circus due to a suspicious vehicle.
Earlier a Scotland Yard spokeswoman said that Park Lane was closed at Marble Arch to Hyde Park Corner and a 200m cordon was in place.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm
Been up for at least 45 mins, and longer in a reduced version.
Thanks for caring, though.
Sir Iqbal asks:
What do you think of my latest joke:
http://www.mcb.org.uk/media/presstext.php?ann_id=260
Who said Sir Iqbal cant take the piss! ….. hahhahhaha
all jokes aside bruvs …. if you see and Zionist police/Troop movements in or around London do call me on the phone numbers in above link.
dont forget to dig our logo, I did it myself ….
hillhunt:
How about this for a coincidence?
It was ladies’ night Thursday, nicknamed “Sugar ‘N’ Spice,” at the massive Tiger Tiger nightclub, a three-story venue that at full capacity can pack in 1,770 people and stays open until 3 a.m.
http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2007/06/29/702596.html&cvqh=itn_bomb
This is what my American cousins are asking –
Looks like London just missed a bullet – what are you hearing about the perps? Disaffected Anglicans perhaps?
Reply: The BBC hasn’t covered that base yet, although it is not beyond the realms of possibility!
“… some government officials in Jerusalem – not knowing of Miliband’s Jewish background – noted that a few of the most withering of Israel’s critics in England are Jews. “
They’re the ones hillhunt and Paul Reynolds have never heard of.
hillhunt: you say yes, I say no, hello hello, goodbye.
dont forget to dig our logo, I did it myself ….
FookSirIqbal | 29.06.07 – 6:22 pm
http://thumbsnap.com/v/bW6Wx3Ti.jpg
The problem with “environmentalists” is they have a habit of interpreting extreme weather with GW – and the reason people believe them is that we all have short memories. How many summers have been wet – you probably won’t remember because we only remember the sunny days. Here is the weather records of two years chosen at random.
“1900
June. Some severe thunderstorms with notable hail this month. It reacbed 31C in London on the 11th, but there were some severe thunderstorms across the Midlands in the 11-12th, with damaging hail. Many people were hurt by large hailstones at Gorebridge (Lothian) on the 12th.
July. Warm and sunny – the 11th= hottest of the 1900s. The temperature exceeded 32C (90F) daily from the 16-19th. There were some notable thunderstorms, however, particularly in the north on the 12th. This led to the “Ilkley floods” in Yorkshire: 110mm of rain in 24 hours on the 12th led to severe flooding; 94mm of the rain fell in 75 minutes. Many homes and bridges were destroyed, and the flood left a thick layer of mud. It was 35.1C in Cambridge on the 20th, the highest temperature of the year (and indeed from at least 1875 to 1906).
1909
June. Equal coldest of the century (11.8). It was a very dull month, with no sunshine at all in London from the 2-6th. A maximum of only 10C in Oxford and Bath on the 6th. More outstandingly cold, wet dull weather from the 10-12th, and 20-28th. Thunderstorms on the 23-24th. The Trooping of the Colour in London was abandoned on the 24th.
July. Cool and wet. Thunderstorms at the end of the month, with a tornado in Manchester on the 22nd. Violent thunderstorms on the 25th, particularly in Fife: 74mm at Carnbee. More rain on the 27th, including 75mm in Dorset.
August. After a wet start (e.g. 67 mm of rain at Hull on the 1st), there was a fine, warm spell. For the first time since 23 May, 27C (80F) was reached, in parts of England, on the 6th.”
http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~taharley/weather_years_1900-09.htm
Biodegradababble:
“… some government officials in Jerusalem – not knowing of Miliband’s Jewish background – noted that a few of the most withering of Israel’s critics in England are Jews. ”
They’re the ones hillhunt and Paul Reynolds have never heard of.
Didn’t notice your favourite word in there…the one which started this discourse, anti-semite.
Paul Reynolds has obviously never come across antisemitic Jews like Michael Rosen, Gilad Atzmon, or Naom Chomsky, to name but four.
hillhunt:
Time for another edition of “Guess the Religion.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465068&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
OT. God bless the slapper who got so drunk that the ambulance had to be called.
“Binge drinker thwarts terrorist bomb!” It’s what makes Britain Great. Take that, Nanny State.
Biodegradable:
dont forget to dig our logo, I did it myself ….
FookSirIqbal | 29.06.07 – 6:22 pm
http://thumbsnap.com/v/bW6Wx3Ti.jpg
HoHoHoHo …. the bruvs at the Brotherhood Broadcasting Corporation know how to be funny as well. Who said Islam and Humour dont mix!
Talking about mixtures, we have has some difficulty in regards to this matter, as the events last night have shown, or as was the case have not shown … boo hisss … if there are any bruvs out their who can help us with this – or better still tell us if they know where Bruv Al Johnston is being held …. hahhaha … sorry I couldn’t help throwin that one in – please do call me on the numbers here
http://www.mcb.org.uk/media/presstext.php?ann_id=260
and while you are at it check the banners on this page … especially check out Know Your Rights Pink Banner ..
its full of important facts! did you know for instance that:
“The 2001 Census found that there are over1.6 million Muslims in the UK. That is morethan the numbers of British Jews, Hindus,Sikhs and Buddhists combined.”
or Info ..
on STOP & SEARCH POWERS OF
THE POLICE
or your rights when …
POLICE SEARCH OF YOUR HOME
its all there!
Click to access PDF27Sept.pdf
and alos check out our Islamic Books for Distrabution in Schools drive!
http://www.mcb.org.uk/booksforschools.php
We have to get them young!
World media ahead of Al Beeb as ever. (via LGF)
“Was London Bomb Plot Heralded On Web?”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/29/terror/main2997517.shtml
MPACUK: Car Bomb May Have Been Planted by MEMRI
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=26057_MPACUK-_Car_Bomb_May_Have_Been_Planted_by_MEMRI&only
Hillhunt, when you replied to my question with
“Perhaps because there is a significant constituency in the Labour Party who have been deeply frustrated with Blair’s refusal to confront American failures in foreign policy, and who believe the UK needs to put more pressure on Israel.”
Did you mean that (a) Paul Reynolds is a member of the Labour Party or (b) the BBC shares the opinion of this ‘significant constituency’ of the Labour Party? You know, the one which wants to exert more pressure on Israel.
As the first two paragraphs of Reynolds’ profile of Milliband highlight the possibility of increased government opposition to Israel, I think we might agree that Reynolds considers this possibility significant. I would go further. It seems to me that Reynolds relishes the prospect.
I return again to his comments about Milliband’s Jewishness. Reynolds reminds us early on about Milliband’s criticism of Israel from within the Cabinet and goes on to say that he can do so without fear of being accused of anti-semitism. Goody goody!
But the truth is that no politicians who criticised Israel’s actions last year – and there were plenty of them – were accused of anti-semitism. So Reynolds’ point is spurious.
Farfour the genocidal ‘Mickey Mouse’ is a goner
After an exposure by
Israeli and American media,
Hamas TV pulls children’s program with Micky Mouse-like character advocating violence.
http://eye-on-the-world.blogspot.com/2007/05/farfour-genocidal-mickey-mouse-is-goner.html
“Israeli and American media” Who left the BBC out?
I believe it was the BBC News presenter with the Irish accent reporting from Sheffield recently who informed us that the latest flooding was the UK’s biggest peactime disaster.
Maybe it is a stock BBC News phrase which we hear endlessly repeated as in “Community in shock”
What are we to make of this then from the BBC Archive:
January 31st 2003 marked the 50th anniversary of what has been repeatedly described as the worst national peacetime disaster to hit the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/understanding/1953_flood.shtml
Perhaps the presenter hadn’t been born then.
The dirty weather
1908 (April):
1. In 1908 a SNOWY week over most of the United Kingdom culminated on the 24th and 25th in one of the heaviest spring snowfalls on record in southern England.
http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/climate/1900_1949.htm
No mention of GW, CC, or CF’s
Sir Iqbal Says
Anonymous:
World media ahead of Al Beeb as ever. (via LGF)
“Was London Bomb Plot Heralded On Web?”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/ 2…in2997517.shtml
No but, Yes But, No But, Yes But …. Whats the point of you going and letting the cat out of the bag! And anyways you cannt prove nuthink …
indigenous | 29.06.07 – 5:41 pm |
Here’s one bimbo I could never take seriously;
She rarely seemed to read newspapers in any depth and, for all her natural charisma, had to be heavily briefed before any appearance on a major current affairs programme.
Once, when she was going on Question Time and we were running through the likely topics, she suddenly turned to me and said: “Leo, remind me again, who’s Yasser Arafat?”
Yes indeed, stand up the incompetent, gaffe prone, Harriet Harman who takes herself seriously whilst all around her ……
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=DYDO1QOQS5DSNQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/06/25/nbrown325.xml
Talking of incompetent socialist bimbos here’s the worst of the lot (after the odious Margaret Hodge)
The greatest disaster that the NHS has ever seen, despite the BBC trying to shield us from the worst excesses of this useless woman. It’s Patricia Hewitt, another one who takes herself far too seriously.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=FP42E4LDIYY3VQFIQMGCFGGAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/06/28/nosplit/nbrown728.xml
Finally the ugliest trout of them all and one we had to take seriously because of her position. I mean what damage could she have wreaked on the international stage had she not been Blair’s glove puppet, one Margaret Beckett.
Silly me I forgot the incredible bimbo in chief, Tessa Jowell, the woman who doesn’t know where the money comes from to pay her mortgage. (Another one sheltered by the BBC)
By the way Ian Infidel | 29.06.07 – 4:02 pm | you are right about the magistrate despite what words may or may not have been put in his mouth by a court ‘spokesperson’. You see they’ve all been compelled to attend ‘diversity workshops’. This usually means being harangued by ethnic minorities as to why we are all a bunch of racist shits and how we should all modify our behaviour to accommodate them.
Nick (BBC) sorry for the delay but I haven’t forgotten you from the other thread and will respond by midday Monday.
Finally Indigenous & Ian Infidel, as a matter of course I never respond to the rambling of silly bunt (older posters may recall the Monty Python character who could not pronounce the letter ‘c’ , inserting in its place the letter ‘b’, depending of course on your take on this particular far-left circus side show freak as to whether it should be ‘c’ or ‘h’)
The BBC, Palestineand the full story
Gaza voices: ‘Trapped in a prison’
Two weeks after Hamas seized control of Gaza, Palestinians reflect on life in the Gaza Strip.
………
MOHAMED AL-SHARIF, 35, NGO WORKER, GAZA CITY
One thing we’re happy about – it’s the summer wedding season here in Gaza. Often, people in Gaza shoot into the air at weddings, but that’s not happening anymore. Hamas has put a stop to it. At work we make Palestinian handicrafts and we ship our products to London,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6253312.stm
For once the BBC tells the truth and here is an example of that Palestinian handicrafts
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42442000/jpg/_42442006_forensic_getty203indx.jpg
“Biodegradable:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/ arti…1272910,00.html
Biodegradable | 29.06.07 – 5:22 pm | #”
Cripes.
I think this marks a watershed in terrorist tactics. Instead of clandestine manufacture of high explosives they are using less suspicious common materials that can be innocuously purchased anywhere.
Never has it been easier to be a dangerous Jihadi. I could become one in less than an hour.
Climate Change: Climate change models do predict more of these extreme weather events.
But we’ve always had extreme weather of course. However following on from the floods of 98 and 2000 we’ve had 3 really bad floods. Each of which was described as a one in 100 year event.
For a journalist of course 3 events is a trend!
I’m not sure scientists would say it’s the sort of definitive proof of climate change those who disagree with the theory are looking for.
Anyway, I’ve had a detailed discussion on another thread about all this. But I wanted to pass on the views of a farmer I interviewed today.
He said many farmers think something is up. Growing seasons are longer. It’s warmer. Odd bugs are turning up in the crops etc etc. There are hard choices to be faced about water usage. With little money to invest farmers can’t afford big ponds to gather winter (or even heavy June!) rainfall.
There is a debate to be had about should our tax cash be made available to farmers to help construct these small reservoirs. They could be built to allow fishing/environmental benefits for all of us for example.
If we don’t then in a dry spell we’ll have to make choices about water… do we irrigate the crops or should we let rivers be depleted/run dry.
I know the opinions of many people on here about Climate Change, but this is a debate farmers, the environment agency et al are looking to have.
Thoughts?
TPO:
I just saw Harriet Harman on Channel 4 News, wearing – wait for it – the RED jacket.
Is this the same RED jacket that other seriously intentioned females wear when presenting the BBC News?
She hasn’t stretched to complimentary black trousers yet though, perhaps she is waiting for pay day.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Womens-Linen-Red-Jacket-Like-New_W0QQitemZ330097393198QQihZ014QQcategoryZ63860QQcmdZViewItem
To all commenters: thanks for all the web info posted here on the “International elements / Irish / potentially viable device” incident. As ever, I’ve learnt FAR MORE here than fromyour pathetic but well-funded rival…
David Gregory (BBC):
“But we’ve always had extreme weather of course.”
Too true Blue!
1949 (April):FINE/WARM EASTER – RECORD TEMPERATURES
1. The start of Easter saw sunshine and RECORD April TEMPERATURES in many parts of the country; 23 degC was exceeded in places on the 15th. On the 16th (Easter Saturday) in 1949 the TEMPERATURE reached 29.4 degC at Camden Square in London, the highest April temperature – recorded in the United Kingdom (and England) for the 20th century (and perhaps in the known record**). On the same day, the TEMPERATURE reached 28.9 degC in Kensington, Wealdstone and Greenwich, and some authorities regard this latter value as a truer representation of the-values-on-this-day. (** also possibly the earliest known date in the 20th century for ’80degF’ or more to be recorded.)
1949 (Summer):
1. Notably WARM summer: one of the top 7 or so of the 20th century.
1949 (Annual):
1. A notably VERY WARM year: almost equalling the years 1999 and 1990 about which so much fuss is made. In the CET record in fact (which roughly represents the central lowlands of Midland and Home Counties England), it ranked (as of 2006), as fourth warmest, with 2006 then the warmest year.
http://booty.org.uk/booty.weather/climate/1900_1949.htm#1940_1949
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465068&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
If even Daily Mail readers are saying it’s a hoax..
David Gregory (BBC):
“There is a debate to be had about should our tax cash be made available to farmers to help construct these small reservoirs. They could be built to allow fishing/environmental benefits for all of us for example.”
Our pathetic reservoirs appear to be either bone dry or in danger of bursting when full.
As a former Farmer myself I well remember the winter 0f 1963, the unpredictability of Britain’s weather is one of the reasons I gave up Farming. As for those still in farming, watch out, farmers are a cunning lot and I suspect (this is my thought) they sense that is the townies who think something is up and can in fact smell money from the government. How they’ll laugh down at the local when an earnest DEFRA Rep will turn throwing money at them to build reservoirs. Catch a bit of the action mates!
In Spain they do not subsidise farmers and Golf Courses because of some mumbo jumbo about GW. It is a seriously hot country so they just pass a law saying these professional moaners must build reservoirs or end up in court.
Climate is not as much of a consideration on the Costa del Sol as one might think as “we have an effective system for recycling water, so, ensuring the installation of an efficient watering system served by a plentiful supply is more of a concern. In Madrid and Barcelona, the cost of boring for water is considerably higher than in Málaga. There is a big difference between an inland course and one on the Costa del Sol as one must take into account such things as ease of maintenance. In the end, the designer must have created a course which, at the same time, is challenging for the expert without being too difficult or uninteresting for the average player.”
Notice the words “recycling water”. If the Spanish can do it why can’t we?
http://andalucia.com/golf/articles/architecture.htm
Welsh water supplies Wales and Western England with water using a very small proportion of the welsh rainfall. In the relatively wet area that Welsh Water covers, they abstract 5% of annual rainfall to supply on average about 900 million litres of water a day.
Where is the water pipeline to England. Build that and solve your problem.
David Gregory
It may be news to you and to the farmers that you have interviewed but the weather and the climate change all the time. No-one but an idiot denies this. However, it would be refreshing if you discontinued confusing yourself and everybody else if you accepted that the debate you consistently avoid [1] is twofold: about the cause of the change and what, if anything, we can do about it.
[1] This follows the internal decision of the BBC – that you, I believe, disclosed on this blog – essentially to refuse engagement with or coverage of anybody challenging – or merely sceptical about – the MMGW/IPCC world view. You assert – according to my understanding of your position – that the MMGW/IPCC world view is the definitive and last word on the subject.
“Where is the water pipeline to England. Build that and solve your problem.”
No thanks, Schools and Hospitals please.
David Gregory (BBC),
Sure, the climate is getting warmer and for longer periods in some places. This is not evidence that it’s all MMGW. The following issues need to be brought up to these suspicious farmers and adherents to the Religion of MMGW:
The sun is getting a little hotter at present. There is currently Global Warming on other planets in our solar system as well.
There are several places where glaciers and formerly permanent snow coverings are melting, and we are discovering the remains of Iron Age settlements. Clearly the climate was much warmer in these places at an earlier point in the current geological era.
The Earth is only about 10,000 years out from the last Ice Age. These are periodic – lots of evidence for cycles – and generally the planet warms up afterwards, and then cools down again. Since we are closer to the end of the last one, rather than nearing the start of the next, it is logical to expect warmer temperatures.
Having said all that (and I realize you know all this stuff, but these points are never brought up in the public debate), I think it’s right that farmers figure out now what to do about water supplies, regardless. Having grown up in the Southwestern US, with the memory of several droughts and periods of minor water rationing, I can appreciate the sentiment.
Ultraviolets,
That’s not Daily Mail readers comments, it’s the Lefty version of GIYUS kicking in.
I doubt GIYUS would want to encourage the proliferation of conspiracy theories about “international banking cartels” controlling the foreign policy of the west.
Terror Plot Involves Islamic Extremists; Police Have ‘Crystal Clear’ Picture of Suspect:
British police have a “crystal clear” picture of the man who drove the bomb-rigged silver Mercedes outside a London nightclub, and officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com he bears “a close resemblance” to a man arrested by police in connection with another bomb plot but released for lack of evidence.
Officials say the suspect had been taken into custody in connection with the case of al Qaeda operative Dhiren Barot (pictured), who was convicted of orchestrating a vehicle bomb plot involving targets in London, New York, Newark, N.J. and Washington, D.C.
Officials say a surveillance camera caught the suspect “staggering from the Mercedes” shortly after parking it outside the Tiger Tiger nightclub.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/terror-plot-inv.html
“the Lefty version of GIYUS kicking in.”
Oh I understand now.
Bastards the lot of them.
David Gregory(BBC) – I think that the problem of water shortages is not due to weather but natural causes – This natural cause could be solved but I’m afraid if you mention it you will be taken away by the Thought Police.
“The UK population is now rising faster than at any time since the baby-boom years of the mid-20th century. Figures published last month suggest that some 300,000 new Britons appeared in our midst last year, equivalent to a city the size of Cardiff — equivalent also, at present rates, to some 125,000 new houses, over 150,000 vehicles, a lake nearly a third the size of Windermere in annual water abstractions, and roughly 1.6 million hectares (over four Hampshires) in terms of global ecological footprint.”
http://www.sovereignty.org.uk/features/eco/abdicate.html
We all hear how the dustruction of rain forests alter climate – could the tarmacing of England also have a consquence on local weather patterns.
“I know the opinions of many people on here about Climate Change, but this is a debate farmers, the environment agency et al are looking to have.
Thoughts?
David Gregory (BBC) | 29.06.07 – 7:49 pm | # ”
___________________________
Yes, Mr Gregory the sun is getting warmer. And on Mars too.
David Gregory asks:
“Thoughts?”
Climate changes. It’s what climates do.
After all, the very word stems from a Greek root which can be taken as ‘slope’.
How old were the farmers with whom you were talking? None of them is likely to have had more than 50-60 years experience at the most and that is simply too short a time from which to infer anything.
A better picture might have emerged from a trawl through farm records, but even so, it’s a moot point.
In 1976 we were suffered a drought and the headless chickens were running around while the press and politicians shrieked about water shortages. Not so very long after, I recall standing on a hill, overlooking Lewes, which was under water.
The same chickens were then running around as the band played Handel’s Water Music.
Whatever we may need to do – always assuming we need to do anything at all – we do not need to be panicked by people’s notoriously short and fragile memories.
So, no, we don’t ignore evidence. But we must treat it with great circumspection.
NBC: CONFIRMS POLICE LOOKING FOR 3 INDIVIDUALS FROM BIRMINGHAM
Sir Iqbal asks:
why do we have to pay £3 Billion a year to get our news from NBC?
Sir Iqbal says:
Birmingham, thats funny most of my MCB and MAB friends come from there. What a coincidence!