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listening to Any Answers on radio 4 now. they are discussing the recent discovery of two car bombs in London.
maybe the car bombers are a crack team o f Mormons specialising in urban warfare.
or maybe the car bombers are disgruntled Buddhists , who want Tibet back.
It seems as if the entire panel is avoiding the elephant in the room. References to “ethnic minorities” is about as close as you get.
So, maybe theres a squad of Polish plumbers out there who specialise in car bombs?
The Battleship Auster says:
“The prospect of such an attack less than a mile from Downing Street cast a shadow over Gordon Brown’s second day in office.
The Scotsman is greatly understating the problem. I would say that the prospect of such an attack, and of an endless series of similar attacks, casts a shadow not just over the current government of Britain, it casts a shadow over all modern liberal societies, which in the name of equal respect for all people (a phrase that comes straight from Melanie Phillips’s liberal credo) have denied their own cultural distinctiveness and political sovereignty, and on that basis have freely admitted within their borders unlimited numbers of unassimilable aliens.”
http://amnation.com/vfr/
More Bias: “Two Mercedes – left outside a nightclub and in a nearby street – were packed with nails, petrol and gas cylinders, but the devices were not detonated.”
They devices were not defused by police with only minutes to spare, no, the terrorists decided not to detonate the bombs out of concern for human life, just like on 21/7.
So will they stand up in court and say “I did it for the lolz your honour”.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6255452.stm
David Gregory
“But that’s a position [that science is 100% right] that offers no ultimate comfort to either side of this debate. What we can say is right now most of the world’s science points to the fact global warming is real and we caused it. I report that.”
Forgive me but your response seems to me to be disingenuous. You claim just to report “world science” but you and your colleagues at the BBC and, to be fair, many other MSM journalists, appear not to report that there are reputable climate scientists who do not agree that “we caused it”. Furthermore and worse in my view, you do not report the consistent • and unscientific – failure of the IPCC to release all their source documentation into the public arena. One blog among many which you and other contributors to this thread may find interesting, is Climate Audit which, among other things, documents the difficulty of getting the raw figures behind the conclusions of the IPCC or even the process of reasoning from what raw figures are available to those conclusions.
Perhaps I’m being naive but I would have thought that it would be personally satisfying (indeed, almost a requirement for the job) for a “reporter” to be able to puncture the established view – consensus, if you like – by asking awkward questions of those propagating that view. But, on the contrary, it appears that you see your job as being a, more or less, passive medium for the science which (and you do not deny this) the BBC has decided is the last word on climate change “truth”. Unfortunately, although I personally appreciate your contribution to this blog, passivity is not necessarily impartiality. In your field, the reporting of science, passivity and acceptance of what I consider a spurious consensus (since the 2,600 or – according to Gore – 6,000 scientists are not all practising scientists, let alone climatologists) is the opposite of journalistic commitment to unbiased reportage.
Ken Livingstone on “Today” is criticised by an ex-Islamist for conflating and confusing Islam and Islamism: a fairly basic (and deliberate?) misunderstanding by our mayor who was doing his level best to maintain his support in London’s Moslem community. Livingstone also attempted to draw a parallel between organised and internationally supported Islamist terrorism (for whose apologists the mayor enthusiastically gives a platform) to the bombing some years ago of places frequented by gays by a lone white lunatic with (Livingstone alleges) extreme political connections.
Following the interview, on the Radio 4 News, the mayor is quoted as saying that we must not stigmatise the wider community of law-abiding Moslems in the UK with any connection with terrorism (or words to that effect). Since (at that time – I don’t know about now) the BBC affected to deny any knowledge of the religion or other affiliations of the bombers, why is a highly selective quote from the apologists’ apologist included in the “news”? Why does the BBC appear to require the wider community to grant the Moslem community special protection from any criticism? Does the BBC know something we don’t?
For Al Beeb:
“Lessons learned from yesterday’s thwarted car bombing” (30 June).
Click Greg Gutfeld’s list at top of this article.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog.cfm/frm/1952
The BBC’s favotite British ex-diplomat (or joint favorite with Malloch Brown) wants us to look around us at who benefits from bombing London. It seems Islamist terrorists shouldn’t be pushed to the top of the list (or on the list at all).
Of course the last time a nail bomb was actually exploded among clubbers in Central London, it was by a homophobic fascist. So it is right to keep an open mind. But whoever did this, the only people who can possibly benefit are the vast and ever-burgeoning security industry of all kinds, and those who want discord between the Islamic World and the West.
I am saying we should not leap to the conclusion it was Islamic fundamentalists. It could be, or it could be other extremists, or interests, who benefit from the War on Terror.
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2007/06/london_bomb_cui.html
“Interests”? Must mean MI5, I guess.
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What a sanctimonious prick Craig Murray is. This is his best shot a Levy & Blair
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/index.html
The prig he is, Murray delights in connecting Blair to a porn star contributor to the Labour party
The fact that an attracive woman has made enough money from suckin cock & giving ass to make a contribution to the Labour is what New Labour was all about
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007290466,00.html
Murray who if rumours are true indluged in a fair amount of both activities (cock/ass) (with young boys as it happens) in his time in the Near East and Central Asia needs to be reminded that despite his best efforts we dont live in an Islamic Republic just yet and so are quite proud to have a PM who takes dontations and picture with just about anyone.
http://www.order-order.com/2007/06/look-who-flew-in-to-say-goodbye-to.html
The police spoke to Coventry and surprisingly nothing came up (pun intended). So why make a big deal of it.
Umbongo
ITs worth making the point, that it does not matter whether the BBC or the British government or the people of Britian that VOTED for it, blame the wider Muslim comunity or not.
Because Jihadists will and do blame the citizens of Britain and the USA anyway. This is why it is not a war against terrorism. It is in fact a war against democracy, which the west did not seek and have no real answer for.
BECAUSE THRE IS NO ANSWER at this time, and probelly at any time in the future either.
This war against democracy has been going on since democracy first took hold, with very varied and sometimes very open ended results.
We in the democracys have been at war of somekind far more then we have been living in a time of true peace.
A very accurate definition of war is that it is “only the gap between two or more wars.”
I fully expect this war to be still going on long after my grandchildren leave this world. War is a inevitable condition of mankinds progress and development.
Greater minds and statesmen then we have today have not been able to solve this deep seated almost Darwinistic human condition for 10s of thousands of years. We are clearly not suddenly going to learn how to avoid war any time even slightly soon.
This could be just as well.
It could even be argued that many past attempts to do so, have turned out to be more dangerous to the survival freedom and progress of mankind then war itself.
History also indicates that appeasement and long periods of relative peace, only result in bigger, more deadly and inhumain slaughter in the end.
Wait a minute! Murray wants to suggest the bombing could be by a “homophobic fascist”.
Well that doesn’t put the Islamists out of the frame, does it?
The BBC ,the bombing of Hiroshima and its hatred of America.
Japan minister in atom bomb row
The nuclear bombs dropped by the United States on Japan in 1945 were the inevitable way to end World War II, Japan’s defence minister has said. “I think it was something that couldn’t be helped,” said Fumio Kyuma in a speech at a university east of Tokyo.
His comments sparked outrage from survivors of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6256840.stm
The BBC airs yet another story on this perceived war crime committed by the US against the innocent Japanese. (Anything to keep its anti-American bias on the burner)
Do a search on Hiroshima on the BBC and you get this.
http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?q=Hiroshima&tab=ns&edition=d&recipe=all&start=1&scope=all
7 pages of news articles on Hiroshima. The total death toll of both bombings comes in at around the 200,000 mark.
Here is something the BBC never seems to point out just what kind of Evil Empire the Allies were faced with when they publish stories of Hiroshima .
The Rape of Nanking
Between December 1937 and March 1938 one of the worst massacres in modern times took place. Japanese troops captured the Chinese city of Nanking and embarked on a campaign of murder, rape and looting. Based on estimates made by historians and charity organisations in the city at the time, between 250,000 and 300,000 people were killed, many of them women and children. The number of women raped was said by Westerners who were there to be 20,000, and there were widespread accounts of civilians being hacked to death.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/39166.stm
So numerous stories from the BBC about how the yanks ended a war by nuking an evil empire. Which killed around 200,000 people. Yet a story about how between 250,000-300000 people were killed in 6 weeks during peace time by the Japanese garners 1 page. 7 articles of which 6 discuss if the genocide actually took place.
Yup the BBC really does report impartially.Just wondering when the BBC will start reporting that the Americans only kill civilians in its news reports .
Silly me they already have;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6256458.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6256494.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6256394.stm
The BBC ,the bombing of Hiroshima and its hatred of America.
Miliband’s Moment
Hamas? Al Qaeda? The new British foreign secretary couldn’t even cull a badger.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDEyOGQ5MGViNzQyOWNkYTY3OWM4OGZmYmY2ZGRiNzU=
More bullshit from Craig Murray. Our man in Samarkand before he got chucked out.
This time its his lame expose of the “truth” behind Lockerbie.
Basically his story is that as a Junior FCO wonk a college told him of a report that pointed the finger of Lockerbie at Syria not Libya …
On one occasion … , I was told something remarkable by a colleague in Aviation section.
At this time we suddenly switched from blaming Iran and Syria for the Lockerbie bombing to blaming Libya. This was part of a diplomatic drive to isolate Iraq from its neighbours in the run-up to the invasion. Aviation section were seeing all the intelligence on Lockerbie, for obvious reasons. A colleague there told me, in a deeply worried way, that he/she had the most extraordinary intelligence report which showed conclusively that it was really Syria, not Libya, that bombed the Pan Am jet, and that the switch was pure expediency.
I asked if I could see the report, and my colleague declined, saying this was too sensitive and dangerous; the report was marked for named eyes only. That in itself was extremely unusual – normally we would pass intelligence reports freely to each other, signing the register for them.
That is all I know. I never saw the report myself, and I do not know what it said, or why it was so conclusive. I am sorry to say it was such an incredibly busy time, we never discussed it again. I do not know, for instance, whether the intelligence contained an actual admission the charge aganst Libya was fake, or merely evidence that proved Syria did it (a communications intercept, for example). I suspect it will never be made public.
But the knowledge has remained with me ever since, and I was extremely sorry at the conviction of al-Magrahi. I do hope his appeal is successful. I am particularly impressed at the upright stand of Dr Swire and other victims’ representatives on this issue.
Now this all begs a few questions:
(1) When Magrahi was convicted why didi Craig Muray not come forward with this information. (Claire Shortish morality there)
(2)If you are now telling us that Syria/Iran were involved what action against these 2 regiemes would you suggest that the British Government now take.
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2007/06/lockerbie.html
The BBC, Canadian protests and its hatred of America.
Canada natives in day of protests
Aboriginal groups across Canada are holding a day of marches and protests to highlight poverty and social issues facing their communities.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6252218.stm
The above article is about how indigenous Canadians are protesting against their own government about how they are treated. The article actually quotes;
“We want our people to be treated with dignity and respect, we are looking for the basic necessities of life that come with being Canadian.”
So the protest is aimed at Canada. Maybe the BBC would care to explain the main photo on that article. The same photo which can be found on the Americas News website.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42445000/jpg/_42445572_protests_afp203.jpg
That’s a strange looking Maple leaf flag.
The BBC, Canadian protests and its hatred of America.
anonymous writes:
“Miliband’s Moment
Hamas? Al Qaeda? The new British foreign secretary couldn’t even cull a badger.”
Damn! I never thought I’d defend Milliband (whom I regard as not merely ZaNuLabour hateful, but actually dangerous).
However, Boyles or whateheverthehell his name is is an idiot. If he’s at all interested in the science, he should read the report on Bovine TB by the Independent Scientific Group, commissioned by defra.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/tb/isg/index.htm
For once in his miserable life, Milliband stumbled on a sensible decision.
It is unlikely to have sett (!) a precedent.
garypowell:
Umbongo
ITs worth making the point, that it does not matter whether the BBC or the British government or the people of Britian that VOTED for it, blame the wider Muslim comunity or not.
eeer not sure if anyone “voted” for the Moobs-ster Brooun. He siezed power in much the same way as a Georgian who went by the name of Dzhugashvili ..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin
Warning. Haloscan is eating comments again.
Violent event at Glasgow Airport, at about 3.15 pm.
2 ‘Asian’ men involved in driving
4×4, on fire, into entrance of main terminal; one of the men’s clothing was on fire. Police handcuffed and arrested both men. Not known if any explosives involved. Airport now closed. (Report via Peter Sissons, BBC News 24.)
So I see our Man in samarkand was buggering young Uzbek/Russian girls while in Tashkent. That and his problem with drink may have something to do with his wife leaving him.
Still these qualities make him the perfect Gurnaid/BBC stateman …
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_murray
The BBC, The EUs relationship with Turkey and its hatred of America.
EU ‘faces backlash from Turkey’
The European Union is risking an Islamic backlash in Turkey, according to the EU’s enlargement commissioner, Olli Rehn. A survey showed attitudes in the country souring towards the West.Mr Rehn told the European Voice weekly: “If you look at the current political situation in the Middle East, in Palestine, in Lebanon, not to speak of Iraq, we don’t need another nationalist or Islamist problem in the neighbourhood of Europe.” The survey revealed Turkish approval of Europe to be falling rapidly. Just 27% of Turks have a favourable opinion of the European Union, compared to 58% in 2004, according to this year’s annual global survey by the Pew Research Center.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6256880.stm
The BBC reports on how the EUs procrastinations towards Turkey is slowly polarizing that country’s populace against the EU. So the story is about the EU and Turkey. Which is strange as the BBC ends with these comments on that article;
“According to the Pew survey, Turkey is currently the most anti-US country in the world.
Only 9% of the country favours the US, compared to 52% in 2000, putting Turkey below the Palestinian territories with 13% US approval, and Pakistan with 15%. In the United Kingdom, 51% approved of the US.
While 37% of Turks like American science and technology, according to the survey, 81% of Turks dislike American ideas about democracy, and 83% dislike American trade habits.”
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5171/image2ui4.jpg
Since when has the US of A being a member of the EU. If anything the US actually is of the opinion that Turkey should be allowed to join. Yet the BBC instead launches into a tirade against the US which has nothing at all to do with the story.
The BBC, The EUs relationship with Turkey and its hatred of America.
Ahh look, they changed the article:
“Two Mercedes – left outside a nightclub in Haymarket and in a nearby street – contained petrol, gas cylinders and nails but the devices did not detonate.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6255452.stm
News Sniffer: http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/51515/diff/13/14
Look Beeboid darlings, the devices were defused.
Sissons gets note from IAM Gardner. Its a criminal/police matter Gardner says.
So quoting Murray, “Cui Bono?”
What is the criminal gain obtained by Asian gentlemen from ram raiding the airport depature doors with the intention of lobbing Molotov cocktails? Just crazed arsonists, I guess.
” Two ‘Asian’ men deliberately ram burning Jeep into Glasgow Airport”,
OR, in BBC’s indirect language, (Beeb was on the spot):
“Car on fire crashes into airport”
http://news.bbc.uk/1/hi/6257194.stm
glasgow incident on the radio right now.
odd thing is , is that one of the mercedes was tracked to scotland (well, according to abc news)
is there a now a cell of Jihadists up in Scotland? (rather than the usual Bradford/Birmingham/London)
sky news:
Witnesses said some of the hundreds of people in the area removed gas cylinders from the jeep before it caught fire.
But there are reports the men were trying to fling petrol onto the flames.
LETS NOT JUMP TO HASTY CONCLUSIONS
Sir Iqbal Says:
As Al Beeb has told you the 4 men have “Asian Appearence” … now that could mean anything. Maybe they are tanned Irishmen or Scotsmen … or maybe this is part of the vast Jewish Neocon conspiracy that is currently being directed by MI5 (according to our Man In Tashkent Craig Murray) …
Right now John Sissions on BBC is saying that there may well hav e been two cars “in collision” so maybe its a simple traffic accident. Lets remember that accidents can happen at any time, for instance remember in 2001 when some planes went into buildings …. that may well have been an accident.
So like I say dont be jumping to conclusions.
WHAT?! An eye witness on BBC is now telling us how he knocked down a large Asian man with his head on Fire. THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! CLEAR CASE OF AN ATTACK ON AN INOCENT MUSLIM MAN!!!!!!!!!!! JIHAD …..
Sorry I lost it a little there … in any case
Peace be With You … & Remember Islam is the Religion of Peace.
“..on BBC1’s Breakfast this morning, during which Lauren Booth and the two BBC presenters all agreed that the heavy rainfall was due to climate change.”
Anonanon | 30.06.07 – 9:23 am |
“Why, one might wonder, is there such insistence on scientific unanimity on the warming issue? After all, unanimity in science is virtually nonexistent on far less complex matters. Unanimity on an issue as uncertain as “global warming” would be surprising and suspicious. Moreover, why are the opinions of scientists sought regardless of their field of expertise? Biologists and physicians are rarely asked to endorse some theory in high energy physics. Apparently, when one comes to “global warming,” any scientist’s agreement will do.”
http://faustasblog.com/2006/06/there-is-no-consensus-on-global.html
Seems not only “any scientist” but also any relation of Tony Blair or BBC “reporters”
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1273090,00.html
“Everyone was in a panic and police and security were scuffling with an Asian gentleman.”
He added: “There was a lot of anger – if the crowds had got hold of this gentleman it would have been the end of him.”
good. one bunch of people you dont fcuk around with are the Scots.
This is OUTRAGEOUS there is now a second Scottish witness on the BBC who is laughing at the whole affair … he cant contain himself …. “hehhe, heheh, the Asian Gentlmen was smoldering and fighting mad, hehhe, hehe ” …
I am OUTRAGED!
Now John Simmons is asking BAA manager “are you treating this as an attack on the Airport”
You cant make this up.
sky news: witnesses saw the men throwing petrol containers
(molotov cocktails?)
gas cylinders dragged away by the public.
Jon | 30.06.07 – 5:17 pm
Yes, Lauren Booth – that well known climatologist.
Re Glasgow airport – I see the BBC execs haven’t learnt anything about priorities since the decision to cut the Blair speech on Wednesday. Those (literally) poor licence fee payers who don’t have access to digital, satellite or online coverage have had a choice of two BBC channels showing a rained-off Wimbledon this afternoon. Why wasn’t one of the channels given over to the News 24 feed?
sky news just explained that Scottish schools broke up for the summer holidays yesterday.
thankfully the islamoidiots hit the arrivals area rather than the departures.
Further to the above comment.
I would like to say that as I now live in a highly confused authoritarian socialist undemocratic European state nightmare and therefore not a democractic libertarian free nation paradise.
I personally would not fight for this country or encourage any of my sons or family to do so. It shocks me that our younger generation in particular think that this country has anything left worth fighting to preserve. Thanks in no small part to the BB bloody C.
Does the BBC or Gordon Brown think that good brave and patriotic young British males are going to lay down and their lives and limbs in mumber for feminists pacifists homosexuals, imported foreign nationals, among the highest taxes in Europe, BBC social enginnering propagander, rapant street crime, state educational Eco-brainwashing draconian smoking bans, one parent families, vindictive illegally operated parking authorities and human rights rapidly becoming a distant memory?
At the rate this place is going myself and and my family are more likely to be fighting for the other side if anything.
Me again …
Saalam
I am sure BBC will edit this clip so its worth knowing what the witness said.
The second Scottish Witness is called James Stark, says the drivers rammed the Jeep into the Terminal just missing a 3-4 year old girl and the main entrance and going through teh Advertising hoarding …
We thought it was just an accident, but he started revving the car again and people started to shout at him telling him to stop.
The Asian man got out and started pouring petrol over himself and the car … he caught fire and went to the boot of the car …
at this point I told my wife and kids to run away. The wheels were spinning, he was trying to get the car off the hoarding … the car was now on fire, hehhehe, the car door was stuck on the hoarding.
The man got out started to try and run away. He hit the first man who trie dto stop him, the second man knocked him down.
It was an eternity before the policeman came to help him, a good 5 minutes. Surely there should be more police about in light of what was going on in London.
The car exploded in what looks like a petrol explosion.
Sissons: Did you see anyone hurt?
He [Asian gentleman] Hit the one of the bystanders who tried to restrain him, he was hurt. The Asian gentleman was fairly burnt and smoldering, hehehe hah, I dont know he wasnt saying anything comprehensible.
Sissons: Fighting mad was he?
Yeah. hehhe
As yesterday: if one wants a full picture of breaking Islamic news, one goes straight to BBBC, not – NOT, I repeat, – its slightly better funded rival…
Can somenone direct me to the Stop the Islamisation of Europe website please. Cos my tolerance has just stopped.
http://sioe.wordpress.com/
the dread to think what is going to happen in Scotland after this.
lets face it – the Scots arent known for their self restraint when it comes to violence, unlike the more restrained English (i am generalising of course, but you get the picture)
stop the islamisation of europe:
http://sioe.wordpress.com/
anyone got any decent scottish blogs that might be live blogging this ?
One for the site admin … where’s the monthly archives on the sidebar?
I AM OUTRAGED!!!!!!!!
Sir Iqbal Says:
WA AS SALAM MoFos
Why did the police not arrest the Scottish man who viciously attacked the Asian driver of the vehicle. When will the British stop attacking INNOCENT MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!!!
You can here the Scot confess here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6250000/newsid_6257300/6257318.stm?
Peace Be With You
LGF has rolling updates:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=26071_Breaking-_Attack_on_Glasgow_Airport&only
Time for another edition of “Guess the Religion.”
Photos.
Blazing jeep crashes into British airport
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465335&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
Thank you
Anonymous
Buzzoid
The time has come for action. Lets get together and take it.
Sir Iqbal Says
wa Salam
I feel now is a good time to share a YouTube Nasheed with you all … everyone please join me.
PEACE BE WITH YOU … Remeber here at MCB we all say Islam means Peace!
Hilhunt:
Where are you piece of appeasing shit?
“Time for another edition of Guess the Religion.”
The S.U.V. Army?
The Self Burning Buddhists of Glasgow?
The Gas and Burning Order of the Mormon Church?
Asian SUV Owners Club?
hmmm.. beats me. I simply cannot think of a religion that might do this. I mean, Islam is peace isnt it?
I’ve just listened to the BBC radio 4 reports on the Glasgow airport attack, in the PM programme. The BBC presenter (a woman by the name of Shah) was most anxious to stress that this is likely to be “just a police matter”, with no connection to the London car-bombs.
Does the BBC think it can keep reality at bay with its own verbiage?
sky news: witness says that an official in a flurorescent jacket (airport security?) said : “let the fucker burn”
thats the spirit. more please.