The BBC’s love affair with murderous socialist Che Guevara continues.

Biased BBC reader Matthew sums up the BBC’s latest glorification:

The BBC never miss a chance to glorify Communist terrorists: Che: The icon and the ad.

This follows Tuesday’s propaganda on behalf of the Cuban dictatorship, where they described how wonderful doctors from Cuba provided free to Latin America had cured Guevara’s executioner’s blindness, saying “Four decades after Mario Teran attempted to destroy a dream and an idea, Che returns to win yet another battle”. (No mention of appalling hospitals in Cuba and illegality of dissent in Cuba)

Anyway, today’s ode to Che quotes numerous lefties on what a wonderful hero he was:

“His image will never die, his name will never die”.

“He was good-looking, he was young, but more than that, he died for his ideals, so he automatically becomes an icon”.

“He was an immensely charming man – likeable, roguish, good fun”.

“Combining capitalism and commerce, religion and revolution, the icon remains unchallenged”.

The BBC lefties ask you to:

“Send us your memories of Che Guevara using the form below”.

“You can also send pictures of Che memorabilia, posters and wall-paintings, to yourpics@bbc.co.uk”.

Truly mind-boggling.

The excuse, by the way, for this unbridled propaganda is that an “exhibition is due to open at Barcelona’s Palacio Virreina museum on 25 October 2007”.

NEVER expect to see any balance when eulogising the BBC’s glorious socialist heroes.

For instance, The Times just a month ago described the release of a critical biography (not covered by the BBC) which covers Guevara’s cold, brutal acts of summary murder for ‘treason’ (documented in Guevara’s own diaries), as well as his use of psychological torture techniques. Guevara is clearly a fairly typical terrorist guerilla-figure, more brutal than some, and far from a hero.

Yahoo also covers Guevera today, because of this exhibition. Their article? Fair and balanced. The headline is Che Guevara’s legacy fading with the years. It includes a section called “COLD KILLER?”, as well as a proper description of his status an icon.

Don’t expect any thing like this from the BBC, they really are determined to canonize the murderous terrorist.

Thank you Matthew.

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69 Responses to The BBC’s love affair with murderous socialist Che Guevara continues.

  1. Telford says:

    Feel free to document the things that Che did that the BBC prefers you not to know about — but please make sure you produce evidence, such as a reference to a book or an article, or a link to a reputable source (don’t rely on a memory of something you think you might have read ten years ago).

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  2. matthew says:

    possibly the most disturbing part of this story is that we are asked to “send in our memories”, as if he was some kind of much-loved comic actor, rather than murderous guerilla terrorist.

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  3. Bryan says:

    Earlier this year there was a communist-adoring, starry-eyed hack waxing eloquent on the World Service, with voice brimful with emotion, about the defeat of the invading American forces at the Bay of Pigs:

    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/2631215756320160181/?a=42685#349760

    Be interesting to know just how many BBC hacks are communists or communist-sympathisers. Easy to be one when you can leech off the hard-earned capital of others.

    And just like countless others who claim to embody noble, revolutionary ideals, Guevara proved more callous and brutal than those he opposed.

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  4. matthew says:

    it honestly is quite difficult to understand the context that the BBC work in.

    According to The Times article, the popularity of Che came because

    “French intellectuals who flocked to Havana in the 1960s fell under the charm of the only “comandante” who could speak their language.

    They turned a blind eye to anything that did not fit in with their idealised image of Guevara.”

    (including murder, execution without trial)

    I don’t really understand why the BBC does the same.

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  5. matthew says:

    Bryan: high-minded idealism only applies to Americans at Guantanamo Bay, never to glorious socialist heroes doing much worse.

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  6. matthew says:

    The following search gives a list of BBC articles about him:

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Anews.bbc.co.uk+che+guevara&meta=

    They are, without exception, universally positive without criticsm – not even the ‘on this day’ obituary:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/9/newsid_3930000/3930193.stm

    Just page after page of fawning praise

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  7. Bryan says:

    Makes one wonder exactly what proportion of the UK TV tax-paying public has the same adoration of Guevara: 0,005%? 0,0005%? (I’m being generous here.)

    And it makes one really angry to realise just how stealthily and cunningly the BBC has hijacked billions in extorted funds to promote its own narrow agenda and engage in mutual back-slapping exercises to eulogise murderous thugs.

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  8. Barry Wood says:

    This is reminiscent of a current scandal in America where The History Channel broadcast an uncritical and glowing account of Guevara’s career.
    A superb debunking of this, was carried out by David Horowitz’s Frontpage.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=2FB47187-D89F-43DC-A864-CE1FC8A7B066

    Frontpage also carried out an earlier very full account of the career of Che Guevara.

    “Under Che, Havana’s La Cabana fortress was converted into Cuba’s Lubianka. He was a true Chekist: “Always interrogate your prisoners at night,” Che commanded his prosecutorial goons, “a man is easier to cow at night, his mental resistance is always lower.”

    http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=%7B50C84DE3-56E9-44C4-B7E7-43305CB15405%7D

    The June 13, 2007 Frontpage interview with Cuban dissident and Guevara biographer Humberto Fontova is also illuminating.

    Extract:

    FP: So what accounts for Che Guevara’s international heraldry? What exactly did he accomplish

    Fontova: He accomplished exactly nothing. As I document in the book, Ernesto Guevara failed spectacularly at everything he attempted in his life–except at the mass-murder of defenseless men and boys. But he had the great fortune of linking up with the 20th century’s top publicist: Fidel Castro, who hatched and propagated (with the aid of his ever-faithful media and academic accomplices) the Che legend, of which nothing is true.

    This KGB-trained and worshiping hangman named Che now serves as the idol of “do your own thing” radicals and the slogan that adorns Che posters under T-shirts is “Resist Oppression.” The mind boggles. It really required a sense of humor to write this book–otherwise I’d have gone nuts

    …Sadly, Che’s cachet as the worldwide symbol of Anti-Americanism let’s him get away– not just with murder–but with Mass-murder. That Anti-American cachet (the gallant David’s against the American Goliath) seems to excuse all the horrors of the Cuban revolution for much of the worldwide intelligentsia.”

    Fontova interview
    http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={86DE50D7-E16B-42C6-B61E-035B6A1F541D}

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  9. dave t says:

    Wonder if we’ll get any comments from our BBC friends? Come on JR!

    Where ARE you my little soldier for the revolution…? 😎

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  10. Anon says:

    It’s bad enough having to read that dreary apologist hack without people inviting him in.

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  11. Haversack says:

    Did George Bush ever do this?

    “I fired a .32calibre bullet into the right hemisphere of his brain which came out through his left temple,” was Guevara’s clinical description of the killing. “He moaned for a few moments, then died.”

    (from The Times article).

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  12. Andrew says:

    For what it’s worth, Wikipedia has:
    He was appointed commander of the La Cabaña Fortress prison, and during his five-month tenure in that post (January 2 through June 12, 1959),[28] he oversaw the trial and execution of many people, among whom were former Batista regime officials and members of the “Bureau for the Repression of Communist Activities” (a unit of the secret police known by its Spanish acronym BRAC). José Vilasuso, an attorney who worked under Guevara at La Cabaña preparing indictments, said that these were lawless proceedings where “the facts were judged without any consideration to general juridical principles” and the findings were pre-determined by Guevara.[29][30] It is estimated that between 156 and 550 people were executed on Guevara’s extra-judicial orders during this time.

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  13. Allan D says:

    I’ve sent off a suitably appropriate although, I suspect, ineffective response to the request for “memories” to the (Don’t)Have Your Say column. The next request will be presumably for “Uday Hussein – Send Us Your Memories”!

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  14. Stephanie clague says:

    So Guevara was nothing more than a cruel and cowardly psycopath? How about his BBC fans come and tell us the truth? How many innocent civillians did Che kill? Why does the BBC treat him like a hero?
    I will always remember the “great rail journeys of the world” documentary on Cuba, the reporter was very positive about all aspects of Cuba and how brave they are to stand upto the USA but near the end he interviewed an old man who tried to tell him the truth about the regime but the reporter cut him off and sneered at his ansewer! Here was an old man trying as best he could to tell an outsider of who he thought was to blame for the terrible conditions in Cuba but this didnt fit with the BBC mans starry eyed vision of the workers paradise!
    You have to see the programme to realise just how divorced from reality the BBC reporters have become!

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  15. Grimly Squeamish says:

    Stephanie the technique you outline applies to any Beeb project where the facts don’t fit the standard leftie theory.

    Goodness knows how many interviewees have ended up being edited into oblivion because they dared speak the truth.

    Murdering terrorists like Guevara have hero status at the Beeb because no one questions the orthodoxy: it is simply the way things are done and the opinions that are held there.

    Many of those sad middle aged suits now in command at the British Bureau of Communism were once members of student communist societies where they’d wear their Guevara t-shirts – Wolfie Smith style – with pride, plot the downfall of capitalism and curse their middle class parents – you know – the ones who paid for them to go to decent schools and then on to Oxford and Cambridge.

    Now these idiots are running the BBC.

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  16. Sam Duncan says:

    Bryan, you’re probably right about the number of people who hold the photogenic mass murderer as a hero, but I doubt if there are many more who know the truth. The rest – or that proportion of the rest who’ve even heard of him, and don’t think he was a Big Brother contestant – get most of their information about the world from the BBC.

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  17. matthew says:

    here’s the BBC History page on him:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/guevara_che.shtml

    No criticism of him, but they don’t miss the opportunity to blame the failure of the Cuban economy on the American sanctions (no explanation as to why those sanctions were put in place). Neither do they miss the opportunity to blame the US for Guevara’s execution.

    For further information, one is encouraged to read

    http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/chebio.htm

    which is written by a Cuban who refers to ‘the glorious revolution’.

    Fair and balanced? Not the BBC

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  18. matthew says:

    And here we are:

    In Pictures: Images of Che

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7029522.stm

    If you search the BBC site for Che Guevara, its ‘Best Links’ are to the BBC History page above, the On This Day, and this:

    H2G2 – Ernesto ‘Che’ Guevara

    Apparently H2G2 is the BBC Guide to Life, The Universe and Everything.

    This particular entry forms one of the small number in the Peer Reviewed ‘Edited Guide’. Entries in the ‘Edited Guide’ can only be updated via the ‘Curators’.

    So safe to say, something in this section does form the party line.

    So what does the article say?

    “the citizens were being exploited by the imperialist ambitions of the US which appeared to be keen to prop up the dictators for its own ends.”

    “Che’s ‘martyrdom’ established him firmly as a 20th Century icon.”

    “Be like Che! If we want to say how we would like our children to be educated, we should say without hesitation: We want them to be educated in the spirit of Che!”

    The author describes his role model as ‘Che Guevara’.

    Hardly an appropriate ‘Best Link’

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  19. Bryan says:

    Sam Duncan | 06.10.07 – 9:03 pm,

    I’m sure you are right. I’m sure the vast majority of people don’t know much more about him than the fact that he’s the one on the T-shirts.

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  20. Nick Reynolds (BBC) says:

    The article you complain of is not a history or biography of Guevara, but an article about the history of his image, more specifically a photographic image.

    It’s fine.

    [The Moderator: Nick, this is utter bullshit. See Matthew’s response below]

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  21. matthew says:

    Nick, it’s all very well to say it’s about an image, but that’s clearly NOT the case, there is a ‘key facts’ box about Guevara’s life, and PLENTY of biographical information about Guevara in the story, none of it doing anything other than suggest he is an untarnished hero.

    I suggest you contrast the BBC article with the article at Yahoo (linked above), which is actually by Reuters. And it doesn’t agree with the BBC, saying ‘Only last month, a new biography, “The Hidden Face of Che,” depicted Guevara as a cold-hearted killer who oversaw executions and presided over a “purifying commission”‘, and that ‘reverence is perhaps on the wane.’

    Clearly the study of the iconography of Che Guevara is of interest, but allowing quotes from Guevara’s most adoring fans to form over half of the article is hardly fair and balanced public service journalism.

    And Biased BBC readers aren’t the only ones that see something wrong in this:

    http://reason.com/blog/show/122858.html

    They link to a Slate article by Paul Berman

    http://www.slate.com/id/2107100/

    After reading it, it’s *impossible* to imagine how ANYONE could write an article about ‘Che the icon’ without uttering a bad word about ‘Che the man’.

    And there is a bigger issue of why the BBC has never printed a single uncomplimentary word about Che Guevara. It’s quite an accomplishment, don’t you think?

    It’s not JUST this article.

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  22. matthew says:

    More thoughts (not mine, though I do agree with them) on the BBC’s persistent glorification of Commnunist Cuba

    http://faustasblog.com/2007/10/us-cuba-embargo-lasts-45-years-beeb.html

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  23. Bryan says:

    matthew | 07.10.07 – 12:47 am,

    Good response. We wait for the day when the BBC stops whitewashing over the brutality of its heroes. Until such time as it desists from this obscene practice, it will be rightly dismissed by fair-minded people as a propaganda outfit.

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  24. Pete says:

    Why doesn’t the BBC just go to Cuba and ask ordinary Cuban people for their memories of Che? I’m sure they’d get nothing but the gushing praise they want as no other opinions on the topic are permitted. To save money they could do it when they go there to cover the next Cuban elections. No need to take the swingometer.

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  25. Haversack says:

    There was another Che article on Friday from AP which appeared on Yahoo, which was also more balanced.

    And that response from Nick Reynolds — what a crock of s**t. He’s lost any credibility he ever had in my eyes.

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  26. Nick Reynolds (BBC) says:

    Some people like Guevara, some people hate him. The BBC’s tone in these articles is broadly neutral, and indeed in this BBC story

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7027619.stm

    you will read the following:

    “Hero. Rebel. Revolutionary. These are words one often hears in association with Ernesto Che Guevara.

    But they are not words you will often hear in Miami where many people see Che Guevara as a brutal guerrilla who brought Cuba nothing but misery with his communist ideals.”

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  27. Spencer says:

    Che was a mass murderer. That’s not in dispute. Yet the article that Biased BBC has blogged about is not remotely neutral in tone. Nor are the other Che articles on BBC that I’ve seen. Nick Reynolds happens to find one article that is neutral, but that’s actually about the man who killed him, and not even the BBC can avoid repeating criticisms of Che in that case.

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  28. Matthew says:

    Ah yes, I was actually just about to come here and express surprise that that article has been published, but I see Nick has beaten me to it.

    Rather convenient that it has been published so soon after the criticism of the BBC for its attitudes to Guevara on this site.

    That article *is* better, but nonethless rather conveys the impression of ‘Everyone loves Che except for a few fanatics in Miami’.

    It doesn’t, to me, seem the balance of articles such as this one, which reads

    ‘Cuba honours Castro’s fallen comrade

    Born in Argentina, South America’s most famous revolutionary
    Cubans have paid tribute to the legendary guerrilla leader Che Guevara on what would have been his 75th birthday.

    He played a key role in the revolution which brought Fidel Castro to power in Cuba in 1959 and went on to become a revolutionary icon for communism.

    Che Guevara’s image, with beard and beret, was recognised all over the world.

    Tens of thousands of Cubans marched and took part in ceremonies to mark the anniversary of his birth.

    The state-run media had special programming on Che Guevara throughout the day, and a cultural festival was held in his memory.

    President Castro recently described his old comrade as “an extraordinary human being of great intelligence and culture”. ‘

    Anyway, if this is the start of a more balanced attitude by the BBC, then it is to be welcomed.

    I would question Nick, whether you feel that THIS is an appropriate ‘best link’ on Che Guevara (which has been CHOSEN by BBC editorial staff to appear at the top of the results if you search for ‘Che Guevara’ on the BBC site). What kind of a page is that to be showing to children who turn to the BBC for what they might think to be the ‘truth’ for finding out about Guevara for their homework?

    Perhaps you could have the ‘Best Link’ removed, because it is pure propaganda by Guevara’s self-stated fan.

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  29. Nick Reynolds (BBC) says:

    Well Spencer if you look at Wikipedia it looks as though this is in dispute:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Che_Guevara

    Like I say, some people love Guevara, some hate him. Can you explain precisely what it is about the BBC article (which is about Guevara’s image, remember, not what he did) is not neutral?

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  30. Matthew says:

    Nick the problem is that these articles, such as the one I quote above, do not give any indication that Guevara is anything other than cuddly folk hero. You would not have articles about support for Pinochet (as an example) that did not mention the unsavoury aspects of his regime.

    I chose the first five distinct articles on Pinochet on a google search of BBC News, and checked for criticism of Pinochet. All five articles contain it (I just show a brief excerpt of criticism here):

    1. ‘Gen Pinochet took power in a 1973 coup, and more than 3,000 people were killed or “disappeared” in his 17-year rule.

    He was accused of dozens of human rights abuses as well as fraud but poor health meant he never faced trial. ‘

    2. ‘Gen Pinochet died in December 2006 before he could stand trial on charges of corruption and human rights abuses.

    More than 3,000 people were killed or “disappeared” during his military rule. ‘

    3.’The general died in December 2006 before he could stand trial on charges of corruption and human rights abuses.

    More than 3,000 people were killed or “disappeared” during his military rule. ‘

    4. ‘it was Gen Pinochet who came to represent the military regime.

    It was he who ordered many of the purges that saw more than 3,000 supporters of the Allende regime killed, thousands more tortured, and many thousands more again forced into exile.

    He closed down the Chilean Parliament, banned all political and trade union activity, and in 1974 appointed himself president. ‘

    5.’Gen Pinochet was also placed under house arrest in October over allegations of kidnap and torture of political prisoners at the infamous Villa Grimaldi detention centre, but he was subsequently freed on bail.

    Other human rights cases include the disappearance of dissidents in 1975 in what was known as Operation Colombo. Gen Pinochet was charged in connection with the kidnapping of at least three dissidents by the security services. ‘

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  31. Spencer says:

    >Well Spencer if you look at Wikipedia it looks as though this is in dispute:
    >
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tal…alk: Che_Guevara

    Did you actually read it? There’s no dispute there about whether Che killed a lot of people in the course of his attempts to replace existing governments with him and his comrades. And I didn’t see any dispute about this claim in the Wiki article itself:

    “It is estimated that between 156 and 550 people were executed on Guevara’s extra-judicial orders during this time”.

    >Can you explain precisely what it is about the BBC article (which is about Guevara’s image, remember, not what he did) is not neutral?

    Nick, this is not the first time I’ve had to rub my eyes with astonishment after reading what you’ve written. Did you read what Matthew wrote? Can you point to any content in the article which *doesn’t* portray Che in a positive light? (And if it’s “just about the icon”, why are there so many positive comments about Che in it?)

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  32. Matthew says:

    Agreed spencer, Hitler is an icon too (apologies for invoking him), Nazi iconography is very powerful, it’s hardly appropriate to write about him in a positive light though is it?

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  33. Nick Reynolds (BBC) says:

    There are two “positive comments” in the article about Che’s image, both from people directly involved in the the poster image and the photograph. Both are in inverted commas, i.e. direct quotes.

    Reporting what someone says does not mean you approve of what they say. Just as in the other article, reporting negative views of Geuvara does not mean the BBC agrees with them.

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  34. Spencer says:

    But somehow the BBC mostly provides positive “quotes” for left-wing killers, but mostly negative quotes for “right-wing” killers they disapprove of. Thus, over time Che ends up with a rosy glow, while someone like Pinochet ends up smelling like s**t.

    (The latter is usually appropriate, but the BBC has double-standards — notice how relaxed they are about a left-winger killing people for the cause, yet BBC types burst a blood vessel if the Americans are seem to have even mistreated a prisoner.)

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  35. Matthew says:

    You really don’t do yourself any favours, do you Merton? ‘It’s pointless trying to reason with these people’, you say.

    Perhaps if you actually READ anything on this site, rather than coming here with your blinkered view, and hands over your ears, you would see firstly that Nick posted that link, and secondly that two people have already commented on it, not so far above. That article, today, was published AFTER this criticism of the BBC for never having published anything negative about Che Guevara.

    What are you actually contributing here by not reading and posting your prejudices? It just appears to be ‘yah, boo, you suck’.

    Nick, I think your response is rather damning actually, “Reporting what someone says does not mean you approve of what they say” is not a valid response. The BBC could refuse to report anything from the Conservative Party and only stuff from Labour, and say that it is “only reporting what people say”. Only reporting people’s views from one side is NOT balanced.

    I do not have a problem with today’s article, although I will note that it is a first, in even expressing through the prism of an obsessed-sounding American, negative thoughts, but it ALSO indicates that the man is regarded as a hero by many, while the corresponding articles about Che being a hero DO NOT indicate that some people regard him as a killer.

    [The Moderator: I deleted Merton’s trollish comment because he was passing off Biased BBC as his home page.]

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  36. Peter says:

    Just to share, I last night watched the History Channel’s offering, something like ‘Che, the true story.’

    It did not gloss over his political ineptitude, fall-outs with Fidel, annoying the Russians, etc, or indeed that he acheived sod all bar a nifty line in T-shirts.

    However, unless I missed the beginning when it was covered, there was also no mention of his less than noble activities as outlined here.

    In fact, the description of his death (not nice, and not the finest hour a CIA-employee ever had) had martyr-ful written all over it.

    But thanks to this thread, I had much more context to view it with. What if left out can have a HUGE impact.

    And no, just because The History Channel ran a tape they were given does it mean the BBC can follow suit. Cut the fat and the tat, and use the money where it matters.

    The History Channel will not be able to list me in their ratings again, and hence I will not be helping pay for them, even with ads.

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  37. Matthew says:

    there are a number of people angry at The History Channel’s documentary, google for it….

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  38. Peter says:

    a number of people angry at The History Channel’s documentary, google for it….
    Matthew | 08.10.07 – 4:35 pm | #

    I did, ta, but didn’t see too much on the channel.

    But did get to this, which has to be one of the more entertaining book titles I have ever seen on a serious topic: Exposing the Real Che Guevara and the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him.

    And they would be…?

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  39. Matthew says:

    Google blog search for you with some links

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  40. Michael Calwell says:

    Che Guevara

    Dear God, what have we done to pay for this hagiography? If you ever doubted the BBC’s Marxist credentials, here they are resplendent in glory. Che the hero, Che NOT the murderer, Che NOT the terrorist. Lovely Cuba, where nobody risks life and limb to get to the evil empire on matchstick rafts.

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  41. champagne bottles: says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world…cas/7033880.stm

    Other commemorations are being held in Bolivia and Venezuela, countries where the Argentine-born hero was active.

    So, seeing as, for example, Margaret Thatcher is considered a heroine by some, presumably we’ll see her described in such terms in future BBC news reports.

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  42. Jim T. says:

    I’m sure others must have heard the Che-fest on the 5 pm prog this evening, what a nice cuddly man he was, a real example to all those innocent Cuban children. The reporter even bought a Che key ring. Ye gods! No hint of criticism of what he did. Must be time for the rehabilitation of Pol Pot who did so much for the agriculture of his country.

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  43. Robert J White says:

    This has got to be a joke..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world…cas/ 7033880.stm

    “His critics describe Che as a brutal man who ordered the execution of dozens of his opponents and helped move Cuba further towards communism in the early years of the revolution”

    His CRITICS? his CRITICS?!?!

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  44. bodo says:

    RJ White: You missed the bit about Che; “Other commemorations are being held in Bolivia and Venezuela, countries where the Argentine-born hero was active.”.

    Hero? Really? Well I suppose Hitler is ‘an Austrian born hero’ to some, but I doubt the BBC would publish their belief as fact.

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  45. matthew says:

    you messed up the link champagne bottles.

    I wonder if someone has a word, because it says

    “His critics describe Che as a brutal man who ordered the execution of dozens of his opponents and helped move Cuba further towards communism in the early years of the revolution. ”

    Message hasn’t got through to Michael Voss here though, just another glorifying article. He’s been criticised for this only last week

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  46. Andrew Paterson says:

    [The Moderator: Andrew, your original comment came across as a total non sequitur. If you think you can do a better job this time of explaining why you think it’s a good argument, try commenting again.]

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  47. Andrew Paterson says:

    Well to be frank I was coming from the position of a person who was aware enough of the story of the capture of Guevara before the BBC posted a story to know a little titbit that I thought might be interesting. Especially given how the general thrust of the arguments against the article(s) in question concerned how they romanticised the man. After all what is the saliant fact more open to romanticism, the fact that Felix Rodriguez still possesses Guevara’s pipe (my how humble) or his extremely expensive gold watch? The rolex doesn’t quite fit in with the ‘normal’ narrative now does it. I found it even further note of that Rodriguez may well be sporting the watch in the BBC article in question.

    Quite an odd editorial decision to excise my comment from what is normally quite an open blog I must say.

    [The Moderator: Andrew, you didn’t just present this as a tidbit, you said it discredited the whole article, which was a ridiculously strong conclusion to draw from a trivial point. That’s why it was deleted. (Besides, who gives a damn about his watch when the guy killed so many people?)]

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  48. Bryan says:

    Reporting what someone says does not mean you approve of what they say. Nick Reynolds (BBC) | 08.10.07 – 3:24 pm

    Can’t fault your logic there Mr. Reynolds. The problem for the BBC, though, is that more and more people are becoming aware of the fact that the BBC hammers away at us continually with quotes from people on the BBC’s side of the ideological divide while using the absolute minimum possible of quotes from those on the other side of the divide.

    An example that has been noted often on this blog is that the BBC almost always lifts a quote it agrees with from a comment on a HYS debate to display on the main HYS page even if (or perhaps especially if) 95% or more of the comments are against the BBC’s line.

    In other words, it pretends to pluck a representative sample out of the debate when the sample is anything but.

    It’s damn sneaky and dishonest. And, of course, it’s propaganda and not journalism.

    So we would like to know from you, Mr. Reynolds, when the BBC is finally going to stop trying to force people to think in its own narrow fashion and start to fulfil its duty as a public broadcaster.

    We would also like to know when the BBC is finally going to identify and get rid of the propagandists in its midst. The problem there, I suppose, is it would have to fire most of its staff to achieve that.

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  49. Andrew says:

    Verity made a post the other day without a link – I’ve tracked down what she was referring to:

    Che at the Oscars:
    A Cuban gentleman named Pierre San Martin was also among those jailed by the gallant Che. A few years ago he recalled the horrors in a El Nuevo Herald article. “32 of us were crammed into a cell” he recalls. “16 of us would stand while the other sixteen tried to sleep on the cold filthy floor. We took shifts that way. Actually, we considered ourselves lucky. After all, we were alive. Dozens were led from the cells to the firing squad daily. The volleys kept us awake. We felt that any one of those minutes would be our last.”

    “One morning the horrible sound of that rusty steel door swinging open startled us awake and Che’s guards shoved a new prisoner into our cell. His face was bruised and smeared with blood. We could only gape. He was a boy, couldn’t have been much older than 12, maybe 14.

    “What did you do?” We asked horrified. “I tried to defend my papa,” gasped the bloodied boy. “I tried to keep these Communist sons of b**tches from murdering him! But they sent him to the firing squad.”

    Soon Che’s goons came back, the rusty steel door opened and they yanked the valiant boy out of the cell. “We all rushed to the cell’s window that faced the execution pit, ” recalls Mr San Martin. “We simply couldn’t believe they’d murder him!”

    “Then we spotted him, strutting around the blood-drenched execution yard with his hands on his waist and barking orders • the gallant Che Guevara.” Here Che was finally in his element. In battle he was a sad joke, a bumbler of epic proportions (for details see Fidel; Hollywood’s Favorite Tyrant). But up against disarmed and bloodied boys he was a snarling tiger.

    “Kneel Down!” Che barked at the boy.

    “ASSASSINS!” We screamed for our window. “MURDERERS!! HOW CAN YOU MURDER A LITTLE BOY!”

    ” I said: KNEEL DOWN!” Che barked again.

    The boy stared Che resolutely in the face. “If you’re going to kill me,” he yelled. “you’ll have to do it while I’m standing! MEN die standing!”

    ” COWARDS! • MURDERERS!..Sons of B**TCHES!” The men yelled desperately from their cells. “LEAVE HIM ALONE!” HOW CAN…?! “And then we saw Che unholstering his pistol. It didn’t seem possible. But Che raised his pistol, put the barrel to the back of the boys neck and blasted. The shot almost decapitated the young boy.

    “We erupted. We were enraged, hysterical, banging on the bars. “MURDERERS! • ASSASSINS!” His murder finished, Che finally looked up at us, pointed his pistol, and BLAM!-BLAM-BLAM! emptied his clip in our direction. Several of us were wounded by his shots.”

    To a man (and boy) Che’s murder victims went down in a blaze of defiance and glory. So let’s recall Che’s own plea when the wheels of justice finally turned and he was cornered in Bolivia. “Don’t Shoot!” he whimpered. “I’m Che! I’m worth more to you alive than dead!”

    See also:
    Exposing the Real Che Guevara: And the Useful Idiots Who Idolize Him – BBC take note!

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  50. Andrew says:

    Some more good Cuba/Che stuff from http://trenblindado.com/

    How Che murdered:
    http://trenblindado.com/Sanmartin.html

    Che and the armoured train:
    http://trenblindado.com/Story.html

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