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Blank frank.
Just listened to the News on Radio 2 and according to them the over 700 people who went Hi di hi in Cuba are all victims of a miscarriage of justice.
Yup the BBC sure knows how to defend radical Islam. I mean what next from the BBC that the growth of such a polarised mindset is down to global warming?
I can just envisage the headline;
“American CO2 emissions cause Muslims to become terrorists”
In othernews the BBC supports the MCBs demands that all women in the UK be made to wear the hijab as it is their human right.
I notice these threads have suddenly become devoid of Beeboids.
What – thrown in the towel already have they?
“I notice these threads have suddenly become devoid of Beeboids.
What – thrown in the towel already have they?”
Nah,it’s the first week of Winterval,they have all buggered off skiing
The BBC and why is this a story?
Clegg ‘does not believe in God’
New Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg has answered “no” when asked on BBC radio if he believed in God.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7151346.stm
So, the BBC the so called mature news outlet for the UK throws its cards in with the rest of the tabloid media. (A media it has no problem berating) in slagging off the new leader of the Lib Dems. Poor lad hasn’t even got his shoes under the table and the BBC are having a go.
So what is the direction of the BBC here? (Liberal mantra)
Are they glowing about how he has rejected ‘God’? (Islamic mantra)
Are they bitching about how he has rejected ‘God’?
Which brings me to ask the moral question would they bleat the same headlines about a Muslim MP? And how would they react if somebody killed him/her for apostasy?
The BBC and why is this a story?
UK rat population is growing and the BBC blames…
See if you can guess correctly.
Warning as rat population booms
Pest controllers are warning about the danger of the rapidly expanding rat population in Britain.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7151504.stm
Reg Hammer:
I notice these threads have suddenly become devoid of Beeboids.
What – thrown in the towel already have they?
Reg Hammer | 19.12.07 – 7:21 pm | #
C’mon Reg! Don’t be a muppett, use your brain.
How do you expect them to blog – Have you ever tried getting a WiFi connection at Mecca?
Those rats,do they have television licenses?
Have you ever tried getting a WiFi connection at Mecca?
Once. Never again. Turns out radio waves are unIslamic and I was lucky to get out of there alive.
Still you live (just) and learn eh?
I want to congratulate the Beeboids though, especially Mr. Gregory. Defending the indefensible is, well, impossible and so they could’ve been forgiven for just not bothering.
Whoops, that’s Dr. Gregory, not Mr. Speaking of which, that physics (king of science) training should come in very handy when the BBC hæmorrhages jobs, following the (here’s hoping) inevitable de-public-funding of the BBC and subjecting to market forces thereof.
Spare a thought for the typical Guardian-reading Beeboid then with their undergraduate degree in English or Sociology and their lifetime’s worth of non-experience at the BBC – they’ll be hard pushed to find work.
‘…And what experience do you have?’
’20 years as a BBC journalist.’
‘Oh, that’s a good one. But really – what experience do you have?’
And so on.
pounce:
“Pest controllers are warning about the danger of the rapidly expanding rat population in Britain”
As always with BBC articles written by journalists with eff all else to do, this article looks like it was written by a twelve year old English student for a six year old reader.
They even use a publicity still from the Pixar film Ratatouille for chrissakes!
For god’s sakes bomb Broadcasting House and do it now.
We are often told by the BBC that “the US, along with China, is the world’s worst polluter”. The US is constantly criticized for not signing the Kyoto scrap of paper.
They don’t want you to know about this kind of information:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/12/kyoto_schmyoto.html
Notice any favored countries with really ugly numbers?
Are there no opposition party spokesmen available today? Crises will be forgotten – Brown
The link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/.stm
Evidently not. No other political parties available for comment at all: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7151840.stm
Reuters: “Brown’s six-month-old government has been pummelled by the first run on a British bank in more than a century, an uproar over the tax agency’s loss of computer discs containing half the population’s personal data and a storm over secret donations to the ruling Labour Party.
One recent poll showed Labour trailing the Conservatives by 13 points, the largest margin in more than 15 years, causing rumblings of discontent among Labour members.”
BBC: “The government has seen its opinion poll ratings fall in recent weeks following a string of problems.”
I’ve been waiting for the BBC to be more honest about the faked footage of the killing of 12-year old Mohammed Al-Dura by Israeli soldiers.
The last thing I saw anywhere was this article by Martin Patience from 8 November:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7083133.stm
The article is weighted to the Palestinian point of view, but at least admits people are challenging the veracity of the story. The only quote on the page screams out the ridiculous charge that this is just an attempt to undermine all footage shot in the region.
It is now known that this is false, and that the boy was not killed by Israeli soldiers. A round-up of the development of this story can be found here.
At the time, the opening words of the BBC report at the boy’s funeral were, “A Palestinian boy has been martyred…”. Immediately after the footage made its way around the news cycle, attacks against Jews in Europe and the UK increased dramatically.
Here is a link to an interesting interview with Phillipe Karsenty, who is currently being sued by TV France 2 for accusing them of blood libel for manipulating the footage to make it appear that the Israelis killed the boy, shown cowering and begging for his life in the video. What Karsenty has to say is very revealing.
http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/12/sued_by_french_tv_a_conversati.php
I’m not saying the BBC is responsible for this one, but they sure are responsible for other reports unfairly demonizing Israel, or blatantly promoting Palestinian ideology. Publicly, everyone takes the line that anti-Israel does not automatically mean anti-Jew. Privately, we know that is not entirely true. There is significant fallout when these kinds of stories are broadcast. When the BBC unfairly demonizes Israel and plays along with blood libel reports, my family and I are potentially in real physical danger. I have every right to speak out against that whether I live in the UK or not, or pay the license fee.
This is an important story, and deserves far more coverage by the BBC than it got, considering the way they ran with the story initially.
Of course people will forget that Gordon Brown got into a funk over the North Country MPs losing their seats if the Northern Rock folded.
It is reported that the exposure of taxpayer’s money is some £% billion exceeding the Education budget.
This will also be Labour’s nationalisation of a major finacial institution.
Completely forgettable!
Interesting difference between the BBC’s descriptions of the agni innocenti being released from Guantanamo and the descriptions of same in the not exactly US-worshiping Times:
BBC
The Times.
These are the same “Brits” we keep hearing about on the BBC.
Viewers baffled by BBC digital radio ad
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/dec/19/bbc.digitaltvradio?gusrc=rss&feed=media
Another Stink at the BBC
The Perfume Shop hits out at BBC’s digital radio adverts
http://www.sourcewire.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=35914&hilite=
David Preiser
Amazing how many of these went to Afghanistan to “better” themselves.
classic paxman on newnight tonight.
using the guantanamo case as an excuse to nitpick the conservative security policy.
aren’t the interesting questions the ones that weren’t put to their lawyer , stafford smith –
why did omar deghayes go to afganistan from UK ?
is el banna abu quatada’s right hand man ?
why did Abdulnour Sameur go to afganistan ? why was he in the company of a group of arabs while travelling over mountains to leave afganistan ?
the sight of clive stafford smith and paxo gangin up on dame pauline neville jones was pretty sickening. but what do you expect ?
the sight of clive stafford smith and paxo gangin up on dame pauline neville jones was pretty sickening. but what do you expect ?
jimbob | 19.12.07 – 11:02 pm | #
That might be so but I though she was pretty crap, looked a bit like a startled bunny in the headlights!!!
PeterUK | 19.12.07 – 10:31 pm |
I know, right? Or to work for a school during the Taleban rule, when all schools were under their supervision. When only Taleban supporters could do that.
jimbob | 19.12.07 – 11:02 pm |
Abdulnour Sameur was captured with Arab Fighters, not just a random “group of Arabs” at the border (Why would innocent Arabs be there in the first place? Perhaps a camping holiday?), something the the BBC doesn’t want you to know.
the sight of clive stafford smith and paxo gangin up on dame pauline neville jones was pretty sickening. but what do you expect ?
jimbob | 19.12.07 – 11:02 pm | #
It’s interesting that the spanish now want to extradite two of them for terrorist offences.
Stafford Smith tried to imply this was based on the same ‘flawed’ (according to him) evidence that the US used – but that doesn’t make sense.
Just confirms that his ‘Reprieve’ outfit is more of a pressure group than a law practice.
They get financial backing from Michael Moore by the way which tells you all you need to know about their leanings.
A spanish judge would only sign a warrant for offences in some way connected with Spain.
Seems to me that must involve new evidence that Stafford Smith hasn’t even heard yet – so if he hasn’t been able to discuss it with his clients, he can’t assert that they’re innocent.
“They get financial backing from Michael Moore by the way which tells you all you need to know about their leanings.”
It’s the money,right?
Does “Reprieve” help the BBC license tax victims?
Open Europe states:
The scottish government has voted FOR a referendum on the EU constitution.
No mention by the BBC…strange
The English DEmocratic party calls for a referendum on the EU constitution.
No mention by the BBC…strange
Yet again I notice the pillocks at the BBC can’t get their facts right.
3 Britons released from Guantanamo bay it says on the BBC Newsnight site. THEY ARE NOT SODDING BRITISH YOU BBC ARSEHOLES.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/default.stm
The BBC, old news and how to rehash it as new-s
Al-Qaeda to give ‘open interview’
Al-Qaeda’s media arm, al-Sahab, has invited individuals, organisations and journalists to submit questions for an open interview with Ayman al-Zawahiri. Advertisements posted on Jihadist websites said questions sent to them over the next month would be passed to al-Qaeda’s deputy leader for his reply.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7153099.stm
The BBC reports on Al-Q and its version of Question time. (Having watched a number of QT I’ll put money on the fact that the Al Q Time won’t be as dismissive of western culture as the BBC one) But heres the catch with that story. You see the above request came at the end of the Video released on Sunday by Al Q. Even the BBC article admits to such;
“The offer also came at the end of an interview by Zawahiri posted on Sunday.”
Which the BBC reported on at the time;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7147354.stm
But somehow left out of the story.
Something other media circles didn’t.
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A65705A1-EFCA-4E2D-95D1-3272D81DDE49.htm
Now if a real Muslim news site can report the news. Pray tell me what is a wannabe one funded by the British Tax payer doing in promoting Islamic terrorism as the news.
The BBC, old news and how to rehash it as new-s
“The scottish government has voted FOR a referendum on the EU constitution.”
Which is going to make Brown look an even bigger Member than he is now.This will make the West Lothian problem be writ large.
“It’s just arseholes like Stafford-Smith who is typical of the camp left wing Socialists who go on about freedom and democracy but would never have the balls to pick up a gun and defend freedom themselves. They’s happily see others slaughtered on their behalf.”
The belief in One Global United Humanity is the only thing they have left to live for anyway, it’s the only thing that gives their pointless existence any meaning.
Health care and the BBC need competition
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/12/20/dl2001.xml
The BBC gets round to debating those 3 so called innocent Muslims who returned to a heroes fanfare from the BBC.;
What do you think of these detentions? Send us your comments using the form below
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7152117.stm
A screen dump just in case the BBC remove it.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1707/image1la0.jpg
So the BBC which has no problem debating subjects as FGM, broadband connection speeds and the food you eat still hasn’t opened up a debate on the right of these odious people to be allowed to enter the UK. Yet the subject it does wish to open up is why these wannabe terrorists got arrested when they landed. Remind me again what the BBC stands for?
2. Ask the mass media to stop using scenes of large blocks of ice falling off the terminus of a glacier and of the spring break-up in the Arctic as supposedly due to the manmade greenhouse effect. (Glaciers are ‘rivers of ice’, so that calving is natural, and spring break-up is a normal, annual event; both have been going on from the geological time.)
Listen up Beeboids!
http://antigreen.blogspot.com/
David Preiser,
Re: Al Durah,
While I agree that the BBC have a considerable share in various libels against Israel, I think that in this case the criticism is not entirely fair. Last November, leading up to the French court case in this matter, they had no less than three relevant items on their website:
http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?scope=all&edition=i&q=karsenty&go.x=25&go.y=12
I suppose that the matter now rests until the verdict, which is due only in February 2008.
Anat,
Oh, sure, there is the rare occasion when they admit that some people think there is a controversy. Yet, the content of each article is overwhelmingly in favor of the Palestinian/Enderlin point of view, with the pro-P/E statements getting the lion’s share of space. Not only that, but in each article either the only featured quote in the yellow box is Enderlin’s pathetic claim that to question him is to cast doubt on all reports coming from the region, or they quote Karsteny and Enderlin, the latter provided “for balance”, naturally.
These are not exactly glowing examples of unbiased journalism. Must be those news briefs which don’t require a full story we’re always hearing about.
Advertisements posted on Jihadist websites said questions sent to them over the next month would be passed to al-Qaeda’s deputy leader for his reply.
pounce | 20.12.07 – 1:08 am
This is a great opportunity for the people at CBBC. Once they get the answers back from al-Zawahiri they can edit them to present him to their tiny viewers as a kindly figure out of a children’s book who would be a pefect next door neighbour if only Americans and Jews were not so mean to him.
David, you have a point.
If the court verdict turns against France2, I wonder if the BBC will stick to their opinion that this casts doubt on all reports from the region.
LOL.
Thanks to pounce at 18.12.07 – 1:22 pm
Militants killed in Israeli raids
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7149066.stm
This article cries out for a thorough fisking, but I’ll have to limit myself to a partial one:
Israel accused Majed Harazin of leading rocket and mortar attacks against its territory.
Yet again BBC propagandists lie by omission and distortion of facts and with their slick wording imply that Israel was unjustified in attacking terrorists. Anyone interested in the truth has to go elsewhere:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3483799,00.html
Officials on both sides confirm deaths of movement’s top field commander and its chief of rocket operations.
The BBC has policy guidelines? It should ban its “writers” from using vague, cop-out terminology like this:
Reports say he is the most senior militant to be killed in a year.
(And when I last looked, “reports” can’t “say” anything, only people can.)
And here’s a classic BBC tactic of dismissing the concept of terror by not naming it and by omitting any detail that would show the human face of its victims:
Islamic Jihad is a small radical group that has launched most of the rocket fire from Gaza in the past two years, which has killed about a dozen people in the vicinity of the narrow coastal territory.
No mention of Israelis, civilians, Sderot, or women blown up or little children slaughtered while playing in the yard of their home.
It’s what we have come to expect from the BBC.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7153250.stm
Black
Left-wing
Leader of ANC
Balanced with:
Corruption
Arms buying scandal
Previously sacked
Which will trump which in the Beeboid worldview? I think I know, given the “thoughtful” reporting about this politician that the BBC is already responsible for. Just as well he isn’t conservative and white.
The BBC still propagandises its multicultural line in support of the 3 Guantanamo ex-detainees who are NOT British citizens. In reporting the case on Radio 4 News at 9 am, the BBC gave a single biased, S. Chakrabarti-‘Liberty’ type view on behalf of these 3 men, about them coming ‘home’ to the UK, WHICH IS NOT THEIR HOME. There was NO opposite view representing the case of the Spanish authorities which want to extradite some of these people to Madrid, (and Madrid knows a thing or two about Islamic jihad) because of feared continuing security threat.
“Guantanamo three held on return to UK”
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,2230112,00.html
Interesting comment on “On this Day” on BBC On line concerning tenants being given the right to buy their council houses in 1979:
“The policy proved extremely popular and was seen as a major vote winner for Mrs Thatcher in 1979 and again in 1983.
In 1985 Labour dropped its official opposition to the scheme.
By 2003 it was estimated some 1.5 million council homes had been sold.
However, the scheme contributed to a reduction in the number of available council homes and there is now a shortage of social housing across the UK.”
No mention that it allowed hundreds of thousands of people to own their own home for the first time, allowing the to escape the socialist “utopia” of social housing. Nice to see balance throughout the beeb.
Phil H | 20.12.07 – 9:50 am:
“However, the scheme contributed to a reduction in the number of available council homes and there is now a shortage of social housing across the UK.”
Well spotted. This “balance” by the beeb is just a device to facilitate Leftist carping against conservatives. Keep at it beeboids. You’re kidding nobody and it’s become fun to identify.
News 24 currently have a heartwarming story of a chipper antipodean sailor who is going to confront the Japanese whalers in the South Seas in his little 10m sailing boat.
Apparently some of these Japanese ships are 100m long and weigh 80000 tonnes.
I shouldn’t worry about those ones, they won’t float.
I have often blustered on here about how the BBC’s Iraq reporting is extremely negative and does not relate to what was actually happening day to day in Baghdad.
Well, I’ve just watched a 30 minute, very good piece of reporting on BBC 24 by Mark Urban. It was very well balanced, informative and unbiased. So I have to say credit where it is due in this case.
Sometimes there is a glimmer of hope, amongst all the rest of the propaganda.
The headline reads “Spain seeks UK Guantanamo man”.
Then it is tempered a little “A UK resident freed from Guantanamo Bay appears in court after his arrest under a Spanish warrant.”
The article then is linked.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7153146.stm
Thing is the guy is not British, never was, even calling him a UK resident is near to deliberately misleading.
Jamil El Banna is Palestinian.
The other ‘UK’ Guantanamo detainees are not British either.
Shaker Abdur-Raheem Aamer is Saudi Arabian.
Binyam Mohammed is Ethiopian.
Abdenour Samuer is Algerian.
Omar Deghayes is Libyan.
Strangely enough none of these were snatched from the UK or even Libya, Algeria, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia or the disputed west bank.
Surely after all this time we have the right to hope that the BBC will stop misleading us about these ‘Britons’.
Would it not be misleading to talk of US resident Los Angeles man referring to David Beckham?
Yet it would be more correct to talk of that than these guantanamo detainees as Britons.
The bias must stop.
This is a bit OT and may get deleted -but it’s one of the few things that have had me spluttering coffee on my monitor recently.
From “The People’s Cube”:-
http://www.thepeoplescube.com/red/viewtopic.php?t=1625
I’m now looking forward to enjoying lots of people’s rubbish from the people’s presenters at the people’s BBC over the forthcoming people’s holiday season.
Yet more nonsense from BBC News 24. On showing an “artists” impression of one of the men up in Court back from Camp Delta the BBC droid claimed “as can be seen from the artists impression, the years in Camp Delta have taken their toll”
Oh really? How can you tell anything from an artists impression? It’s an impression you BBC droid. The picture looked more like Gandalf out of Lord of the Rings to me.
pounce:
The BBC gets round to debating those 3 so called innocent Muslims who returned to a heroes fanfare from the BBC.;
What do you think of these detentions? Send us your comments using the form below
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/71…/uk/ 7152117.stm
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Which is all well and good, but I posted on there around 10am and my posting (or any other response, in fact) still hasn’t turned up on there yet…
What chance that particular HYS will quietly vanish like a lump of solid CO2 on a hotplate?
This link seems to work while the one above doesn’t, for some reason.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7152117.stm
Still naff all though…