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  1. ThinAndBritish (or Jonathan (C says:

    and in further censorship news:

    http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/UnNews:BBC_Radio_1_censors_%22White_Christmas%22

    Merry Christmas to all at BBC, including Mr Reith, Dr Gregory and Hillhunt (the ghost of bias past) 🙂

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  2. Lurker in a Burqua says:
  3. Dr R says:

    Mark Urban is always good. Yes, the disgusting BBC does have a few good men.

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  4. Anat (Israel) says:

    Folks, what do you know !
    Someone at the Beeb was reading this thread, unless there were complains from additional sources on the title mentioned in my 5:40 post above.
    In any case, the title:
    Israeli army crimes ‘unpunished’ (original copy-paste)
    has now changed to
    Israeli army ‘crimes’ unpunished (new copy-paste).
    Every little counts.

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  5. noobie says:


    In any case, the title:
    Israeli army crimes ‘unpunished’ (original copy-paste)
    has now changed to
    Israeli army ‘crimes’ unpunished (new copy-paste).
    Every little counts.

    too little too late

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  6. backwoodsman says:

    More beeboid drivel on Farming Today , with a Scots MEP trying to gently point out that the hills of Cumbria or the Highlands, may not be the ideal environment to operate the latest nutty EU scheme, radio tagging each sheep, for additional traceability ! beeboid presenter simply repeats ad nauseum, its for consumer protection, so it must be a spiffing idea.
    Is it true the Farming Today beeboids produce The Archers as well ? My neighbour is convinced of it !

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  7. Martin says:

    Dr R: Actually I don’t like Mark Urban. he’s another BBC droid. He did a disgusting article on the US fighting in Falluja a couple of years back, you might remember when some soldiers dispatched a terrorist in a Mosque.

    Urban was looking at some video on Newsnight with Paxman and “claimed” that the Americans appeared to be heavy handed. How you could tell that I don’t know. In one shot Urban is talking to Paxman and we see some US soldiers shooting a heavy calibre machine gun in long bursts. Urban calimed “that seemed an over reaction”!!!!!!!!

    How could he tell? You couldn’t see WHAT they were firing at. For all he knew they may have simply been laying down covering fire to other soldiers. We couldn’t see WHAT they were firing at.

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  8. Susan says:

    “However, the scheme contributed to a reduction in the number of available council homes and there is now a shortage of social housing across the UK.”

    No mention of the fact that the shortage of “social housing” is probably more likely due to mass unsustainable immigration (of which the Beeb heartily approves), not to Thatcher’s buy-out scheme.

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  9. Reg Hammer says:

    Al Beeb taxing the dead.

    http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2007/10/16/tv-licence-shock-55578-19956609/

    I don’t recall this making an appearance on this blog. Apologies if I’m way behind.

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  10. George R says:

    The BBC’s biased, multiculturalist propaganda about the released non-British, non-UK citizen, non-UK resident (in any meaningful sense),ex-Guantanamo 3 detainees, continues unabated.
    In contrast:-

    “The Infamous Five should be left to rot in Guantanamo Bay” (Littlejohn).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=474351&in_page_id=1811&ct=5

    The BBC’s content here is full of righteous ‘Amnesty/Liberty’ type outpouring, not
    against Islamic jihad, but against out allies, the USA and now Spain.
    Can we not see the usual suspects are at work here (with one V. Redgrave, actress, getting in on the act) to complete the infamous Left-Islamic alliance?

    Ironically, for those who extol the virtues of the European Union, the Spanish are using a European Arrest Warrant, which over-rides (wouldn’t you know) UK law.

    ‘Guantanamo detainee freed on bail’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7153146.stm

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  11. pounce says:

    The BBC, negative reporting from Falluja and half a story.

    Iraq government ‘failing Falluja’
    Three years after the massive US assault on Falluja, the city’s mayor has accused Iraq’s central government of starving the city of resources. Mayor Sa’ad Awad says Shia officials still consider the former insurgent stronghold a haven for Sunni militants. Support was particularly lacking for the city’s 2,000-strong police force, he added, as it takes on a bigger role. The head of the US military in Falluja said he shared some of the mayor’s concerns over scarce police resources. Colonel Richard Simcock told the BBC there were no immediate plans to withdraw the 5,000 US Marines currently stationed in the area.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7152991.stm

    and here is how the Economist reported on the city of Falluja last week:
    Can a lull be turned into a real peace?
    AFTER more than three years as an interpreter for American troops in the city of Falluja, Dave (not his real name) recently had his hair cut for the first time by a local barber. Since then, several American marines based inside the city of some 300,000 people have also had their crew-cut domes locally shaved to a gleam. Six months ago they would have had their throats slit—and so, almost certainly, would the barber.
    But times have changed dramatically. Once widely considered the most dangerous and xenophobic city in Iraq and one of the country’s most resilient havens of al-Qaeda, Falluja is now enjoying a new, if tentative, peace. So, no less strikingly, is the whole of Anbar province, in which Falluja lies, and most of the Euphrates river valley. The Americans say that if you go north and north-west through Hit and Haditha and up to the border with Syria near the town of Qaim, it is clear that al-Qaeda has been chased out—with the co-operation of the local Sunnis and the tribal leaders. In those areas, which embrace the vast majority of Iraq’s Sunni Arabs outside Baghdad, attacks against the American-led coalition forces have dropped more than tenfold compared with a year ago.
    http://www.economist.com/world/africa/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10286236&CFID=1090539&CFTOKEN=e7ff2c32cdc55275-F8537872-B27C-BB00-012BE71B00784C79

    The BBC, negative reporting from Falluja and half a story.

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  12. It's all too much says:

    I wonder, given the BBC policy of having a “balanced obituary” for HM the Queen (any old republican hatchet work will do.; can we expect the BBC to invite Eugene Terreblanche to be provide part of the hagiography at the demise of the saintly Mr. Mandella?

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  13. George R says:

    For the information of Al Beeb:

    “‘BRITISH’ GUANTANAMO DETAINEE RETURNED TO UK WAS ‘MEMBER OF AL QAEDA TERROR CELL'”

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23428639-details/%27British%27+Guantanamo+detainee+returned+to+UK+was+%27member+of+al+Qaeda+terror+cell%27/article.do

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  14. pounce says:

    It is now 16.55.
    If you have the time tune into BBC radio on the Hour and listen to the News.

    I heard the 1600hr news and could just not believe how the BBC promotes these people as British citizens. Oh and according to the Guardian Omar Deghayes (who isn’t British) wife and son have been granted British citizenship.
    The 37-year-old has held refugee status in the UK since 1987 and had applied for British citizenship, which his wife and son hold, when he was detained.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,,2230223,00.html

    Lastly I’m also going to watch the news reports to see if the above really has only the use of one eye. Something the so called (terrorists only) human rights defenders have been banging their drum about.

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  15. Chris says:

    I see the ex-science reporter and Editor from the BBC Dr David Whitehouse has written an article about the fact that the world has ceased to warm.
    No doubt the beeb will report it, NOT!
    see http://www.newstatesman.com/200712190004

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  16. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Anat (Israel) | 20.12.07 – 1:36 pm |

    Nice one. That’s exactly the kind of thing we’re always screaming about. Ripples in the pond, etc.

    I guess some of the junior copy writers haven’t gone home for Winterval yet like the rest of them. I had assumed that by now it was just the IT guys, the accounting department, the cleaning staff, and the bartender.

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  17. PeterUK says:

    “”‘BRITISH’ GUANTANAMO DETAINEE RETURNED TO UK WAS ‘MEMBER OF AL QAEDA TERROR CELL'”

    Of course,why do you think al Beeb is supporting them?

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  18. scrap the license fee says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/20/nbbc120.xml

    BBC sends staff on jelly ‘bonding’ day
    By Andrew Pierce

    The BBC has spent thousands of pounds on a team bonding course in which presenters had to wash raspberry jelly from each other’s feet.

    Adrian Chiles, a presenter, and Alan Yentob, the creative director, were among 200 executives who took part in the sensory assault course.

    Staff were blindfolded and required to walk barefoot through pools of raspberry jelly and autumn leaves while clutching plastic babies programmed to wet themselves and cry.

    At the end they had to wash each other’s feet. The babies were props from the BBC3 show Baby Borrowers. Staff were given masks of Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair.

    One senior BBC executive, who declined to be named, said: “The course is the talk of the place. It’s hilarious.

    “The point was that they did not know what they were walking through until the end. Well, I think that was the point. I don’t think they were too thrilled about washing the jelly off each other’s feet.”

    The course was for 200 staff from the BBC Learning department to “complement knowledge output”.

    Ariel, the BBC’s in-house magazine, reported that the aim of the exercise was also to help staff “refresh perspectives” through “immersive experiences”.

    When they were not walking through jelly, or changing the nappies of the plastic babies, staff were invited to pitch programme ideas at a panel of senior executives including Glenwyn Benson, the controller of BBC Knowledge, and George Entwistle, the acting controller of BBC4.

    The BBC, which is cutting 1,800 jobs because of a £2 billion deficit in funding, spent £10,000 on the bonding day course.

    Philip Davis, a Tory MP on the Commons culture select committee, said: “I am sure the people who are losing their jobs will be delighted to know how licence-payers’ money is being spent.”

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  19. Martin says:

    Anyone else been wathing the last propaganda from the BBC on climate change? They’ve been dressing it up as some silly story about food.

    But lets get some facts. We can’t all buy our food locally. We don’t have the land in the UK to grown enough food for 70 million (and rising) people. Oh and as London has almost no spare land to grow crops just what will the limp wristed luvvies at the BBC do for food?

    Will the Guardian readers give up their fine Italian & French wines in favour of British vinegar? I think not.

    What is the point of the EU if we don’t trade goods (including food) with each other?

    The BBC are running out of ideas to try to brainwash the public into buying into this Climate change crap and people are not falling for it.

    If the BBC wants to help in the fight against climate change, then the answer is simple. CLOSE DOWN.

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  20. Tim says:

    Martin,

    I disagree with you on Mark Urban.

    The point I’m making is; if he/or the beeb have been biased/inacurate/uber negative on Iraq reporting in the past.

    The report I have just watched was very, very good and I think we should comment on that, because just maybe our message is getting thru!

    Pounce,

    I have worked closely with many Iraqi local Government officials, and the advice that I would give is:

    The answer you get from them, is the one they thing you want to hear.

    So I often wonder what loaded questions are put to Iraqi’s by the Beeb in Iraq!

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  21. woodentop says:

    Yet another interesting news story (I would have thought) not covered by the Beeb… since it casts more doubt on the AGW hypothesis and seems not to fit into the “science is settled” narrative, why am I surprised?

    “U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007

    Senate Report Debunks “Consensus””

    http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

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  22. John Reith spins in his grave says:

    Staff were blindfolded and required to walk barefoot through pools of raspberry jelly and autumn leaves while clutching plastic babies programmed to wet themselves and cry.

    So that’s where JR’s been lately!

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  23. fewqwer says:

    Here’s an idea for a ‘unique way’ to fund Nu Beeb.

    Line up all the Beeboids outside Broadcasting House and charge 10 quid a go to boot them up the a*se.

    Should raise £3.2 billion in no time.

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  24. pounce says:

    The BBC, its hatred of white America and half the story.

    Scuffles over New Orleans housing
    Police in the US city of New Orleans have used pepper spray and stun guns on protesters seeking to halt the demolition of public housing. The protesters were trying to force their way into a city council meeting where members were expected to approve demolishing 4,500 houses. The units were damaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and the US housing authority wants to replace them. The protesters say the demolitions will drive poor blacks from the city.
    ……………..
    Critics of the plan say it will further restrict the stock of cheap housing at a time when the city is still struggling to rebuild from Katrina. They also say the brick buildings are still sound and only need to be renovated.
    …………………
    . “It is an unabashed attempt to eliminate the black population of New Orleans.”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7154954.stm

    And here are a few things the BBC doesn’t inform you of?
    1) Here is a video of the event the BBC are bitching about
    http://blog.nola.com/updates/2007/12/protesters_at_city_hall_are_ta.html
    So is the story as bad as the BBC makes out. Is it bollocks it is simply a publicity stunt by the protesters in which to try and halt the vote.

    2)Here is the news from New Orleans of the subject at hand
    http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2007/12/council_seems_ready_to_approve.html
    3)Ref the race issue the council does not use black in any form in which to describe the inhabitants of these gettos. (Yes I have been to New Orleans) No they use the more correct term ‘poor families’
    4) Here is what councillor Hedge-Morrell has to say on the subject on why she is voting for the demolition of St. Bernard in the 7th Ward
    “I would not allow my grown children or my grandchildren to reside in the St. Bernard housing development, even if it could be rehabilitated,” Hedge-Morrell said. “Health and safety come first. Experts have shown that St. Bernard has too much asbestos, too much lead-based paint, too much mold.”
    Councillor Hedge-Morrell is black
    http://www.nocitycouncil.com/cmd.asp

    But the BBC promotes a racial divide that they are more than happy to promote as one of the reasons to hate America.
    The BBC, its hatred of white America and half the story.

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  25. George R says:

    It may be instructive for the BBC to see the similarities between how much of the UK political ‘left'(including the BBC itself?) apparently wants to treat ex-Guantanamo detainees, with the soft Monty Pythonesque way in which Saudi Arabia treats its returning Islamic jihadists (Press ‘Play Video’):-
    “Life after Guantanamo”
    http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/special-reports/FRANCE-24-Reports/20071207-reporters-saudi-arabia-guantanamo-jihadist-rehabilitation.html

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  26. Mr Anon says:

    Have to agree with you martin.

    Everytime i turn BBC breakfast on theres always something on global warming, or our carbon footprint, or just how to be the ultimate green.

    was a time when one would turn the beeb on to get in depth news about what was going on in the world, now its just green eco propaganda

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  27. Bernard says:

    Tired of the lurid, esturine voice and unpleasent facial expressions?
    So am I.
    Fiona Bruce has left CrimeWatch UK.
    WHAT a blessed relief.
    Let us pray that her thoroughly disagreeable persona does’nt pop up again in a TV near you.

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  28. Bryan says:

    The report I have just watched was very, very good and I think we should comment on that, because just maybe our message is getting thru!

    Tim | 20.12.07 – 7:20 pm

    I agree with Tim here. I don’t see my role as simply to moan about the BBC journos, but to give credit where it’s due. Problem is, as time goes by they are giving us fewer and fewer opportunities to praise them.

    Maybe when Reith and Gregory get back from the Hajj (I really think that’s where they are) they can comment on some of the latest bias exposed here.

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  29. joe bonanno says:

    World Service had a thumbnail sketch of new ANC head honcho, Jacob Zuma.

    Do you think they mentioned his trial for raping the HIV+ daughter of a family friend?

    I mean it was only a thumbnail sketch after all.

    And of course it was only a rape trial.

    Third-rate news from a third-rate news organisation (with first-rate funding)

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  30. Ritter says:

    BBC bias in action. State television doesn’t do bad news stories about the glorious leader. From Sky News this eveining:

    New Low For PM In Popularity Stakes
    Updated:22:25, Thursday December 20, 2007
    http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91211-1297951,00.html

    “The current YouGov poll for the Daily Telegraph gives the Tories a solid 12 point lead – on 43% to Labour’s 31%. According to the latest poll, just 24% of people currently express satisfaction with the job he (Brown) has done since taking office in July.

    More than half (51%) believe Mr Brown has been poor or very poor, against 14% who praise him as good or very good.

    David Cameron – who is due to arrive back from his trip to China – is basking in his highest ever approval ratings, with 47% saying he is “proving a good leader” of the Tories.”

    Are BBC News reporting this?

    BBC News: Politics
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/default.stm

    At time of writing (11.50pm) nothing. Nada. Why? R4 ‘Today’ should be running this story. Why aren’t they?

    Hello? BBC?

    ~~~tumbleweed~~~

    BBC News. Lies, distortion, omission. It’s what we do.

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  31. Lurker in a Burqua says:

    The BBC has much to learn from the Queen

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/12/21/do2102.xml

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  32. Lurker in a Burqua says:

    U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007

    http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

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  33. Anonymous says:

    Maybe when Reith and Gregory get back from the Hajj

    😆

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  34. George R says:

    LITTLEJOHN’s take on the Guantanamo three is rather different to that of the BBC.

    Littlejohn:

    “And lo, the three wise men came unto Luton Airport from the west, from the camp of Guantanamo. And there was much rejoicing in the land.”

    ‘Makes you proud to be British – a Christmas special’:-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/dailymail.html?in_article_id=503769&in_page_id=1790

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  35. George R says:

    Perhaps this news about the speeding up of the European Union’s Islamisation of Europe has been given prominence on the BBC’s World Service and BBC Arabic News, but the BBC apparently doesn’t think the following is of much significant to the rest of us in the UK:

    ‘Mediterranean Union backed by France, Spain and Italy’

    (Of course, Brown and Miliband back it too):

    http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/news/world/20071220-europe-sarkozy-prodi-zapatero-mediterranean-union-plan.html

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  36. Chuffer says:

    Cherish these utterly moronic headlines:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7155205.stm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7153880.stm

    D-list subeditors on duty today.

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  37. Martin says:

    Yes, Richard Littlejohn’s take on it is rather funny. And the Lib Dems wonder why no one votes for them!

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  38. Ritter says:

    More enviro-campaigning from the BBC…

    What’s in your basket?
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/629/629/7148876.stm

    “Shopping for groceries with sustainability in mind can raise a range of issues – from environmental pollution to animal welfare.

    As part a week of special programmes, BBC News is exploring the global food supply chain and its impact on the environment.”

    Check out the BBC’s handy ‘recommendations’ and ‘sustainability quiz’ attached to each food type.

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  39. blankfrank says:

    You can almost hear the underwear dampening as they posted this:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7153490.stm

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  40. Umbongo says:

    Oh dear! You really would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at this one. The Japanese have shot the BBC’s fox. There was the BBC all set up to do its bit as Greenpeace’s propaganda arm (incuding “embedded” reporters with the intrepid Greenpeace anti-whaling navy) when the Japanese decided not to kill the previously targeted whales after all.

    In reality this was non-news: there was little to say. This didn’t stop the Greenpeace armada (OK only one boat but we’re talking “world-wide anger” here) being the no. 1 item on the Radio 4 8:00 am News. There was further coverage on Today with interviews from the Greenpeace yacht and an interview with a (very) inadequate adviser to the Japanese government.

    The unsubtlety of the BBC agenda is simply embarrassing. The whole point of propaganda is that it shouldn’t be recognised as such. Is the BBC losing its touch?

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  41. Tim says:

    My comment on the (D)HYS Whaling is, which didn’t get posted was:

    With the Greens/Left/BBC now telling us of food shortages due to their “So Called” global warming.

    How about we farm whales and eat them, especially as the world population keeps doubling every few years. Largest animal, Food shortages!

    By the way I tried whale meat in Norway 1983, very tasty

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  42. Stuck-Record says:

    Can anyone find this bit of eco-news on Beeb, anywhere?

    U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007

    http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

    Wonder why not?

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  43. Julian The Wonderhorse says:

    Any mention about the latest goings on in the European Parliament by our good old Auntie? Not a sausage!

    Can you imagine if US had got stewards to grab placards off protesters and tried to stop cameras rolling?

    Their version of impartiality is to allow their own political viewpoints to be given full, smooth and equal coverage.

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  44. backwoodsman says:

    Whilst on the subject of missing stories in beeboid la la land. Browns latest polling fiasco and plod being called in by an MP to investigate one of Ken’s mates’ scams, don’t seem to be getting much air time !

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  45. GeorgeR says:

    Everything’s just fine in Brussels now, and will be even more wonderfully diverse with more Al Qaeda Tunisians like this around in the enlarged Islamised European Union which Brown/Miliband, etc. are campaigning for:

    ‘Belgium foils al-Qaeda jailbreak’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7155539.stm

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  46. BaggieJonathan says:

    Spaniard part of Englands plans?

    American resident in England question?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7146841.stm

    Looks like David Beckham is being referred to as neither.

    But why not, after all its good enough for the BBC to refer to Guantanamo detainees that way, perish the thought that they might be BIASED.

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  47. Ritter says:

    Interesting how Martha Kearney’s week consists of sympathetic musings about the great leader’s Government, and not a peep about the ‘Tories’ or Cameron, currently basking in an opinion poll lead:

    Martha Kearney’s week
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7156091.stm

    Bias? What bias?

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  48. PeterUK says:

    “The unsubtlety of the BBC agenda is simply embarrassing. The whole point of propaganda is that it shouldn’t be recognised as such. Is the BBC losing its touch?”

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  49. PeterUK says:

    No they aren’t losing their touch,it is worse than that,they hold us in complete contempt.

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  50. PeterUK says:

    “The fact is that the global temperature of 2007 is statistically the same as 2006 as well as every year since 2001. Global warming has, temporarily or permanently, ceased. Temperatures across the world are not increasing as they should according to the fundamental theory behind global warming • the greenhouse effect. Something else is happening and it is vital that we find out what or else we may spend hundreds of billions of pounds needlessly.

    – Dr David Whitehouse, author of The Sun: A Biography, writing in The New Statesman (via Brian Micklethwait)
    Samizdata.

    Hello,BBC, is anybody there?

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