General BBC-related comment thread:

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  1. pounce says:

    Anonymous wrote;
    “I just read the article you’re describing and the version that came up on my computer made it clear that the plane was destroyed by a bomb.True it didn’t say it was a terrorist group responsible. But that was because it pointed the finger at Libyan intelligence.”

    Thank you for your missive ref the fate of Pam Am 103. My apologies if I didn’t come across as clear as I wanted to. However the point I was trying to make is that did the plane crash or was it blown out of the sky? While I accepted the initial report the latter and concluding ‘In context’ should mention that the plane was blown out of the sky. While it does mention a bomb, it reports such a salient point by saying “and became a murder inquiry when evidence of a bomb was found.” This is at the end of the third paragraph while the very first paragraph in that reports states:
    “In total 259 people aboard the flight and 11 on the ground died in the crash which took place 38 minutes after take-off.”
    In otherwords the BBC hides from the casual reader the fact that a terrorist act was carried out. Now contrast that BBC report with this one;
    1988: US warship shoots down Iranian airliner
    An American naval warship patrolling in the Persian Gulf has shot down an Iranian passenger jet after apparently mistaking it for an F-14 fighter.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/july/3/newsid_4678000/4678707.stm

    If I used the same parameters that the BBC used in the Pam-Am one. Would the report say an Iranian passenger jet crashed into the Persian Gulf after getting shot down by an American naval warship?

    In conclusion the BBC report on Pam Am Flight 103 goes out of its way in which to hide the fact that a terrorist act was committed and that the jet was blown out of the sky. Most people only read the headlines , the majority will only read the first few lines, the vast majority do not bother to go to the very end. Which is where the BBC placed the evidence of a terrorist act.

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  2. Tim says:

    Thanks David,

    I thought that the animal does suffer as it kicks out all the evel whilst bleeding out?

    According to Faiz, my imman pal in Johannesburg.

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  3. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Tim,

    I was not clear on one big difference: Jews no longer slaughter animals for purely ritual purposes. There are no animal sacrifices done for holidays or deity appeasement. All animals are killed for food, nothing more. Naturally, there are certain rituals involved, so I use the term “ritual slaughter”, as opposed to “sacrifice”, which implies that the purpose is other than for food.

    Unlike Muslims, who still do ritual sacrifice for special occasions, Jews have not made animal sacrifices since 70 AD, and consequently have not been shown doing it on Blue Peter. Although, the more hardcore worshipers do say a couple lines of prayer once a year to apologize for not being able to do so since the bloody Romans destroyed the Temple.

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  4. Tim says:

    Interesting, thanks David.

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  5. pounce says:

    Just to add to the Muslim sacrifice debate.
    As a very young child (Under 10) I was often taken along to abattoirs (hired for the night) where meat was killed by slitting the throat. Often I was tasked (As some sort of badge of honour for my father) to hold the knife and slit the throat of the animal.
    I never did a clean cut but I do remember sawing at the neck while brrn told to utter the words; “Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim”
    Which boils down in English into
    “”In the name of God, most Gracious, most Compassionate”.
    To this day I cannot watch horror movies or have anybody touch my neck. In fact I always became the most capable practitioner of any martial art I undertook when it came to removing hands from my neck.
    Are young children still tasked to kill for Allah. I don’t know. But its something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. But if it is it may explain the unholy penchant Muslims seem to have for slitting throats.

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  6. Reg Hammer says:

    “I thought that the animal does suffer as it kicks out all the evel whilst bleeding out?”

    Kicks out the evil? These medievel monsters that the BBC so dearly cherishes oppose every lefty value in the book:

    They hate homosexuals
    They oppress women
    They are cruel to animals
    They are fantically religious
    They have murderous intent.

    And yet lefties flock to them like flies round a cows arse.

    What does this tell you about the TRUE liberal intent? That they are in fact latent hate filled bigots themselves.

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  7. Tim says:

    Indeed Pounce, especially if your the poor bastard wearing an orange boiler suit.

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  8. Bryan says:

    matthew | 22.12.07 – 4:06 pm

    So we see that alleged journalist Justin Webb is indulging in his favourite American Christian-bashing obsession again.

    I suppose that’s why the BBC love him enough to make him North American Editor:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/11/north_america_editor.html

    The BBC is a public broadcaster? It’s more like a nudge-nudge, wink-wink private club.

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  9. Bryan says:

    Propagandists miss no opportunity to propagandise, and where better to do it than a BBC forum:

    Added: Friday, 14 December, 2007, 17:37 GMT 17:37 UK

    As a Christian Palestinian from the holy land, Christmas for me in the birth love and renewal at the threshold of every new year.

    Despite the cruel and harsh occupation of the birthplace of Jesus Christ, Bethlehem, by Israel, we insist on celebrating this sacred feast with its both religious and secular faces where our Muslim friends share us our joy and vibrant decorations. A fact that embodies the true meaning of Christmas with love among various religions.

    Farah Hanna, East Jerusalem, Palestine

    Recommended by 112 people

    http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?sortBy=1&start=0&edition=2&ttl=20071222210455&forumID=3941?

    Makes this observation by the excellent Honest Reporting seem prophetic:

    There’s one invariable sign that Christmas is almost upon us – a story about how Bethlehem is suffering at the hands of wicked Israel.

    http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/new/The_Grinch_That_Destroys_Christmas.asp

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  10. deegee says:

    Tony Blair joins Catholic Church

    Former Prime Minister Tony Blair has left the Anglican Church to become a Roman Catholic.

    Tony Blair visited Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican in June.

    I suppose it is too early for real analysis but:

    ❓ Was his trip in June to meet the Pope a private or a public trip? Or more succinctly – who paid?

    ❓ The Roman Catholic Church is a player, albeit minor, in Israel, Palestine and the Middle East in general. Doesn’t this conversion cast some doubt on Tony Blair’s suitability to be envoy of the Quartet? Perhaps it should now be envoy of the Quintet?

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  11. Bryan says:

    If he can bring about peace, he’ll be the envy of the quartet.

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  12. PeterUK says:

    Of course his father confessor will probably top himself at the enormity of it all.

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  13. David says:

    ‘Most Annoying 100 People of 2007’ on BBC3 just dedicated about 75% of its item on the race for London mayor to slagging off Boris Johnson. I believe the phrase “despicable politics” was used. The harshest criticism of Ken was that he’s been doing it a bit too long so it’s someone else’s go.

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  14. Anonymous says:

    Justin Webb stated: I have never worked outside the BBC unless you count a brief stint writing speeches for an MP and licking envelopes at a lobbying company called GJW Government Relations.

    Hmm • which MP? No doubt it’s some reactionary Tory!
    As for GJW Government Relations • interesting…

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=GJW_Government_Relations

    And that is the self-declared sum total of the real world work experience of Mr. Webb outside al-Beeb.

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  15. Anon says:

    Re: Matthew’s “God hates fags”. Obviously the BBC wouldn’t be able to reproduce what they actually say… (Let me just point out I hate this cult)

    Can you imagine the jihad if the BBC had chosen to report the fact that Islam, sorry Muslim exremists, oppress homosexuals and of course women…Unless you think that it’s ok for women to walk a few metres behind men…Religion of peace…

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  16. Lurker in a Burqua says:

    As a British Muslim, let me clearly state that we approve of the public recognition of the sacred that is inherent in festivals such as Christmas. That a Left-wing think tank should say that I, and my community, think otherwise is deeply offensive and wrong.

    Sayeeda Warsi

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=YOHXQVXI15CYTQFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0?xml=/opinion/2007/12/23/do2311.xml

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  17. Atlas shrugged says:

    At the risk of being censored yet again.

    Until the BBC comes clean and starts to properly investigate the overwhelming amount of real and factual evidence that 9/11 was a false flag operation.

    Anything the BBC says or does that seems to be pro or anti Muslim or pro or anti-Jewish, can quite frankly only be propaganda for one very bad reason or another.

    The BBC is bad news for everyone. It should be as distrusted by Muslims as it is by most of us, and for about as many reasons as it is possible to state in one lifetime.

    Can I make this very clear

    I am Jewish, and I know my stuff.

    Zionism, in the form of a Jewish State of Israel is not Jewish in anyway shape or form. It is in fact completely opposite to proper Jewish religious teaching. Get this FACT right into your brainwashed heads, and you all might just start understanding something very important indeed.

    What the middle east needs is comprehensive piece ASAP. This could have been achieved and would have been achieved, if the powers that run the world really wanted it to.

    It does not need BBC induced ignorance, disinformation and deliberately provoked racism of any kind.

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  18. Atlas shrugged says:

    Can I also add. I have visited Israel over 15 times in my life. It is a wonderful country and an example to the rest of the world, on how a good country should treat its own people in many ways.

    But the people that perpetuate this world conflict do not have the interests of either the Israeli public or you or me at heart IMO.

    This whole problem could have been sorted years ago if the will of the international community and the vast resources of such were brought into play with peaceful intent. Ask yourselves why they have not?

    The Americans and British along with our allies run the Axis powers out of Western Europe and the Pacific in no more then 5 years, because they wanted to.

    Are they really expecting us to understand that they can not sort out the middle east within a year if this was really the wish of the UN and the rest of the whole world.

    THINK ABOUT IT.

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  19. Anon says:

    I find the BBC the biggest anachronism and an appalling waste of taxpayers/licence fees payers’ money.

    Obviously the BBC now values multiculturalism far more than promoting literacy & human rights. Can I interest anyone (very unlikely I know) in reading Seani B’s illiterate diary on BBC’s 1xtra:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/seanib/diary/index.shtml

    “The clash is gonna be with all the champion’s over the last 10years, the likes of Bass Odyssey, Mighty Crown & Sentinel. But there are xtra surpises on the night, David Rodigan Vs Ninjaman & Tony Matterhorn Vs Beenie Man…I know your jealous. Fear Not, if you can’t make it to NYC then they are gonna be streaming it online. Check out the Irish & Chin website for more info.”

    This Seani B chap can’t speak more highly of “Beenie Man” who is famous for his lyrics:

    “I’m dreaming of a new Jamaica, come to execute all the gays”

    “http://www.amnestyusa.org/Country_Information/Jamaica/page.do?id=1106567&n1=3&n2=36&n3=1040”

    The BBC, the one to listen to, which promotes Afro-Carribean homophobia / pre GCSE literacy

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  20. PeterUK says:

    “Until the BBC comes clean and starts to properly investigate the overwhelming amount of real and factual evidence that 9/11 was a false flag operation.”

    Yes the BBC could tell us how much detonation cord it would take to set off the tons of explosives in the thousands of holes drilled in the structure of the Trade Towers.
    Then they could explain why nobody tripped over the bloody stuff in the months and months it took to connect it all.

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  21. Anat (Israel) says:

    Good heavens. 9/11 troofer on board?

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  22. chris h says:

    Are they learning?
    Just watched a report about the dangerous glacial melt lakes that are growing in nepal. Quite right too,ascribed to global warming, thats probably right as well.
    Believe it or not,not a single mention of the warming being caused by human activity(which wouldn`t affect glaciers at that height anyway)but never the less,one cautious thumb up to the beeb,and a whole two thumbs up and a cigar for biased-bbc.

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  23. deegee says:

    Anat (Israel) | 23.12.07 – 6:25 am
    Why are we wasting our time in Israel and this blog. The troof is sooooo! obvious. Fortunately I expect this particular track will be ruled off-topic very quickly.

    Lurker in a Burqua | 23.12.07 – 2:09 am
    Only vaguely on-topic. This is the biased-BBC and not the biased-Telegraph blog, after-all.

    I am not suggesting that being Christian is synonymous with being British. But we all live in a country that has a Christian heritage and these values have informed the development of British culture, its laws and its institutions.

    Christmas is a time to recognise the contribution that Christianity has made (and continues to make) to the nation, even if one does not share the religion. For too long, multi-culturalism has ignored the majority culture, which still is Christian.

    As a non-Christian I basically agree. This is one reason I neither object to the occasional coverage of Christian subjects on the Beeb nor expect equal time for every possible religion or cult (defining the difference can be difficult).

    However:
    † Islam appropriated Christian prophets Zacharia, John the Baptist and of course Jesus. Muslims (even the most extreme) ‘can’ support celebration of Christmas without in anyway showing tolerance.
    † The proportional coverage of Islamic subjects on the BBC is vastly over their proportion of the British population. (At least on the World Service).
    † The proportional coverage of religions unacceptable to Islam e.g. Hinduism, Sikhism and Buddhism is vastly under their proportion of the British people.

    Still let’s give the Baroness credit where credit is due.

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  24. Bryan says:

    Atlas shrugged, if you are the one who has the blog, you should tell us. If you are using her pseudonym, you shouldn’t be doing that.

    “Zionism, in the form of a Jewish State of Israel is not Jewish in anyway shape or form.”

    Nonsense.

    And regarding 9/11 conspiracy theories, even the BBC doesn’t buy into them. Surely that tells you something?

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  25. Gibby Haynes says:

    The obstacle as I see it to the ‘Middle East Peace Process’ is the fact that one of the sides in the conflict, the Arabs, the wider Islamic World and the Western apologists don’t want peace. They’ll settle for nothing less than the wholesale annihilation of Israel and its population.
    Not only do they pretty much constantly threaten it, but they’ve actively attempted it on more than one occasion. Indeed, with people like Hamas, Hezbollah et al committing guerilla warfare, you could argue – and I would – that they are pretty much all of the time.
    Some people who’re quite frankly anti-Semites, and the BBC is one of them, like to make out that it’s the Israelis that’re the aggressors. The IDF is only slightly smaller than the British Armed Forces. Now with that kind of force, you’d think they’d at least try to live up to the accusations from the racists and take over some of the Middle East outside of a few ‘illegal’ settlements, seized in armed conflict, which cause their enemy to see as a sign of weakness when they attempt to withdraw from, causing barrages of rockets to be fired at Israeli towns.
    That’s why with all of the money (the Palestinians are the highest per capita recipient of aid in the world, making post-WW2 Europe and the Marshall Plan look like a bunch of street urchins begging for loose change), resources, time and effort that’s been poured into it, there’s still no solution. Not because it’s in anyone’s best interest to keep it going. Afterall, by all accounts, there’s no justification for it – all of this fuss over a tiny little scrap of land which by all means should be irrelevant?
    No, I think you’ll find your answer in the fact that Israelis are Jews, Arabs (on the whole) are Muslims and the Qur’an says some specific things regarding Jews (and Christians and non-Muslims in general), and if there’s one religious group we know of that tend to take things in their holy book very literally, it’s Muslims.
    I disagree that Zionism is an anathema to Judaism. I think Zionism – the Jewish homeland in the Middle East – is integral to Judaism. It’s been shown time and time again that Jews cannot rely on people to not other people try to kill them. Self-determination is the only way, and that means Israel.
    Apart from this sentence, I’m not going to acknowledge the 9/11 Truther nonsense. Quite frankly, it’s starting to get tiresome.

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  26. blankfrank says:

    Gibby Haynes:
    The obstacle as I see it to the ‘Middle East Peace Process’ is the fact that one of the sides in the conflict, the Arabs, the wider Islamic World and the Western apologists don’t want peace. They’ll settle for nothing less than the wholesale annihilation of Israel and its population.
    —————————————————-

    True, but don’t forget that the Islamic world don’t hate the West because of Israel, they hate Israel because of the West.

    If Israel disappeared overnight, it would change the Islamist’s attitude to the West not one jot. I wonder if this has penetrated the skulls of the fellow travellers/sympathisers at the Beeb, who not doubt assume that with Israel gone, all would be fine and dandy?

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  27. Anat (Israel) says:

    Did you know that Christians in Gaza enjoy brotherly love from Hamas? Anyway, the BBC says so. As to all those anti-Christian incidents — don’t you believe your lying eyes.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7154134.stm

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  28. George R says:

    It’s the way the BBC tells ’em:

    e.g. Radio 4 news headlines 9:30am this morning: Catholics in Britain now outnumber Anglicans because of “Polish migrant workers”; note the avoidance of the straight-forward accurate phrase: ‘Polish immigrants’.

    The BBC phrase “Polish migrant workers” could be taken to infer:
    1.) that Polish people have not immigrated here in large numbers, but are simply ‘migrants’ like birds, who come over, then go back, but don’t settle in the UK. Very misleading.
    2.) that all Poles present in the UK are ‘workers’. Very misleading.

    But it’s one of the new ‘facts’ of BBC propaganda- ‘immigrants’ are morphed into ‘migrant workers’.

    Just as the BBC prefers to talk about ‘radicals’, and ‘militants, rather than the real thing: Islamic jihadists.

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  29. D Burbage says:

    George R : same programme had God-free carols.

    Oh the amusing humour of the metropolitan liberal luvvies that love to poke fun at the Christian religion.

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  30. dave t says:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/200712190004

    BBC Science Correspondent and Science Editor Dr. David Whitehouse has an article up called: “Has Global Warming Stopped?”

    “Global warming stopped? Surely not. What heresy is this? Haven’t we been told that the science of global warming is settled beyond doubt and that all that’s left to the so-called sceptics is the odd errant glacier that refuses to melt?

    Aren’t we told that if we don’t act now rising temperatures will render most of the surface of the Earth uninhabitable within our lifetimes? But as we digest these apocalyptic comments, read the recent IPCC’s Synthesis report that says climate change could become irreversible. Witness the drama at Bali as news emerges that something is not quite right in the global warming camp.

    With only few days remaining in 2007, the indications are the global temperature for this year is the same as that for 2006 • there has been no warming over the 12 months.

    But is this just a blip in the ever upward trend you may ask? No.

    The fact is that the global temperature of 2007 is statistically the same as 2006 as well as every year since 2001. Global warming has, temporarily or permanently, ceased. Temperatures across the world are not increasing as they should according to the fundamental theory behind global warming • the greenhouse effect. Something else is happening and it is vital that we find out what or else we may spend hundreds of billions of pounds needlessly.

    Now how come there is NOTHING about this article by the BBC’s OWN Science Editor on the BBC site? Unless they’ve buried it in the Entertainment/ England/ East Yorkshire section…?

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  31. dave t says:

    And yet more stuff the BBC will not report:

    “Gore’s company, GIM was specifically established to take financial advantage of new technologies and solutions related to combating Global Warming. The Global Warming crowd has told us that just recently new science emerged confirming the alleged fact that Global Warming is man made. So, ask yourself, why is it that Gore set up his Green money machine three years ago back in 2004? Is it possible Gore knew what the science would say before it was out? And even if not, can an individual who stands to make millions from Global Warming really be trusted as an honest broker on that topic? Talk about giving the fox the keys to the hen penthouse.

    Even if Global Warming did exist, in principle, what’s the difference between war profiteering and this? One could justifiably argue that Gore is taking advantage of, in his opinion, a catastrophic situation to clean up – and I don’t mean the environment.”

    http://riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/03/al_gores_inconv.html

    Wot? Gore is making money from all this scaremongering? No Panorama investigation then….

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  32. Reg Hammer says:

    “Until the BBC comes clean and starts to properly investigate the overwhelming amount of real and factual evidence that 9/11 was a false flag operation.”

    So it isn’t bad enough we have to deal with blatant BBC bias we’re expected to take seriously this insuperable, juvenille conspiracy that 9/11 was an inside job.

    When I see posts such as this posted from someone claiming to be Jewish, it does make me wonder why bother at all ploughing up reams of BBC bias when you have people digging holes with extreme right wing ‘X-Files’ paranoia such as this.

    If there’s anything worse than BBC lefties it’s idiotic 9/11 conspiracy twats.

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  33. DavidG says:

    Lurker in a Burqua:
    As a British Muslim, let me clearly state that we approve of the public recognition of the sacred that is inherent in festivals such as Christmas. That a Left-wing think tank should say that I, and my community, think otherwise is deeply offensive and wrong.

    Sayeeda Warsi

    Dear Sayeeda, Let me clearly state that I don’t need your approval.

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  34. Lurker in a Burqua says:

    DavidG

    A good point well made!

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  35. dave t says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7158102.stm

    “Brazil unhappy” about the decision not to blame MetPol about Charles the martyr/hapless innocent/political left wing idol and tool for left wing lawyers to make money from UK taxpayers/coke sniffer’s death.

    How about a “UK unhappy” headline about the 600 odd people murdered every YEAR by the Brazilian Police? Or ‘UK unhappy that we have to keep paying for this crap on the BBC’

    After all if the BBC is meant to show balance…..

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  36. Martin says:

    In fairness to the BBC

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4463010.stm

    But it would be better if our politicians had the balls to tell the Brazilians to eff off about it.

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  37. riddler says:

    dave t 10:39. i think he’s a former bbc science editor – who knows the reason for the parting of the ways……

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  38. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Reg Hammer | 23.12.07 – 11:35 am |

    “If there’s anything worse than BBC lefties it’s idiotic 9/11 conspiracy twats.”

    Couldn’t agree more.

    Unfortunately there is a very large intersection of A and B in that particular Venn diagram. Which makes it all the more ridiculous that whenever there’s some issue about the trustworthiness of the BBC going on in a (D)HYS, a good portion of comments are always complaining that the BBC won’t expose 9/11 as a hoax, and so can’t be trusted.

    There’s only one thing worse than being a 9/11 conspiracy twat, and that is being one by yourself.

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  39. George R says:

    Yes, the 9/11 conspiracy anti-rationalists exist in large numbers, Muslim and non-Muslim; the BBC did explore conspiracy notions in e.g. its ‘9/11: The Conspiracy Files’ last year.

    And Penn and Teller Bullshit:
    ‘9/11 Conspiracy theories’ has 9 sensible minutes here:

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  40. Wasim Jaffer says:

    The Western media has become the most unprincipled, immoral and unethical media mankind has ever seen. It has become greedy for share of pie from the booty from foreign military operations.

    The Western media is also maligning whites against liberal and moderate muslims by magnifying misdeeds of a iny fraction of misguided muslims. It is being done deliberately to antagonize general peace-loving, ‘least concerned about global affairs’Americans against Islam.

    While Britain has become a lackey for the US in all her actions right or wrong, the BBC has become a boot licking sycophant of the biased, one-sided, DoD and corporate dictated US media. Everything is nicely summed up in the following excerpt from a piece onthe internet:

    “In Conyers’ view, it’s kind of Watergate in reverse. Instead of the old Washington press corps holding President Richard Nixon’s feet to the fire for his Watergate abuses, today’s careerist news media would treat the idea of accountability for Bush and Cheney like some kooky conspiracy theory.”

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  41. blankfrank says:

    Wasim Jaffer
    …the BBC has become a boot licking sycophant of the biased, one-sided, DoD and corporate dictated US media…
    —————————————–
    Errmmm, have you actually read anything posted on here? Properly?

    A clue: the BBC generally hates Americans, unless they’re Al Gore and his mates. Maybe you missed this…

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  42. dave t says:

    riddler: Agreed that he appears to be a FORMER editor etc but he was a very RECENT editor/writer ie last year.

    BBC: Come on, the ONLY thing I find is a pathetic article on the climate change part of your website where the Beeboid tries to undermine the skeptics viewpoint rather than just report it so PEOPLE CAN MAKE UP THEIR OWN MINDS……… and you STILL claim the Keeling so called hockey stick is valid despite it being found to be WRONG!

    Funny how Dr Gregory or Reithy baby haven’t said a thing about the half dozen links I put up so far….. can we have a debate or will you just ignore anything that go counter to your propaganda?

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  43. PeterUK says:

    “It has become greedy for share of pie from the booty from foreign military operations. ”

    Hey,the BBC doesn’t need any booty,it has its own revenue,raised from its own serfs by threat of fines and imprisonment.
    Surely that is something you can appreciate.

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  44. Alan says:

    Unbelievable:

    Notice the difference —

    “Christmas under Hamas rule”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7154134.stm

    VS. the reality of death and falling numbers of Christians:

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3485896,00.html

    What do golden spoon fed BBC children think, that Christians in Gaza can openly speak about their problems with Hamas?

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  45. Alan says:

    I don’t know how is it in the UK, but here in Canada and the US, BBC channels have commercials in them.

    A lot of them are tourist ads for Qatar UAE, Dubai, etc.

    I don’t understand why do US and Canadian cable providers give a government subsidized European corporation to compete as equals with all the rest!?

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  46. chevalier de st george says:

    And the lionisation of Michael Sabbah too an islamo Christian puppet of Arafat. Still the Christians are in the middle of it and must not speak up against their islamic overlords , taking everything on the chin without complaint – one of the privileges of being an islamic christian dhimmi
    But where are the Caliphate overlords of the London BBC ?
    here’s an article on the lovely
    Michel Sabbah
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=%7B6B22ED8E-5792-4E78-B7F5-FC240BB94107%7D

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  47. Alan says:

    Even the lefty Haaretz is not as forgiving on Hamas as BBC is these days:

    http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/937474.html

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  48. Andy says:

    Wasim Jaffer:

    Lets see some facts and evidence to back up your statements. Until then your comments are nothing more than vague, sky-high rhetoric.

    Who are the “Western media” exactly? If you think it’s Al-Beeb you are as mad as a hatter.

    If it’s “unprincipled, immoral and unethical media” you are talking about, look no further than Al-Jazeera and it’s sucking up to notorious psychopath Uday Saddam:

    http://www.stopaljazeera.org/terror_television_trailer.html

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  49. deegee says:

    Alan | 23.12.07 – 7:43 pm

    Weird report. It’s wonderful to be a thriving Christian in Gaza.
    “Of course, I am a Christian believer, but politically I am a Palestinian Muslim. I resist Israel’s military occupation, obviously not with weapons.
    “The Jihad can never be mine but with my words, my sermons, I am a Palestinian priest.” :+:

    — OR NOT —
    A nervous young nun adjusted the volume – loud enough to peel through the church but not to penetrate its walls – it might risk offending Muslim Gazans passing by. :-:

    It’s like a how-to guide to BBC appeasement broadcasting.

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  50. It's all too much says:

    can anyone confirm my hypothesis that there is a clear correlation between the volume of the all prevading BBC Climate Change Bull Sh*t and “observed” climate change?

    I won’t bother trying to work out if there is in fact any relationship here so I will just have to leap in a beeboid manner to the conclusion that as (I am sure, I have faith if you will – but I don’t actualy know…) there is a measurable correlation, then there must be a causal relationship! Consequently the more the BBC preach about the doom to come the worse it will get – in every sense!

    Instead of ordering us to take cold one gallon showers, cycling holidays to Croydon and install organic compost toilets perhaps they could shut up for five years or so to test my hypothesis! The vast gaps that would appear in the schedule could be filled with useful social(ist) engineering, constructing the values of vibrant diverse Britain – if anyone has discovered what they are yet.

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