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Curious bias this morning – the *only* media outlet trying to drag the Tories into the Hain sleaze row is BBC News; not a single other online paper or news source seems to be carrying the George Osborne story, let alone having it as second lead story.
Eric,
Well, its a bit difficult , when you have to start the story by admitting that the donation was registered !
Were I prepared to pay the licence fee, which of course I’m not, I’d be pretty peeved at the inability of all these thousands of beeboid journos to get off their backsides and uncover hard facts. Like Morgan’s dodgy think tank for hain – all that took some blogger was a trawl through the Companies House records, or the dodgy livingstone / jasper deals that Gillingham has uncovered.
The beeboids seem to think that a bit of waffle from robinson, praising the dear leaders record on tractor production, justifies their £3 billion.
they where quite cunning though, this morning on the news running up to Andrew MArr show, they followed Hains story directly by Osbournes story, and, if i remember correctly used the term ‘also’, giving the direct implication that Osbourne had done exactly the same as Hain.
Labour will be *very* happy this morning with the BBC, as they have done precisely what they have wanted for some time (and tried to claim themselves) that ‘all the politicians are the same’. If ‘they are all at it’, then Labour isnt really to blame, but the system….
C*#ts the lot of them.
The phone calls will have gone out over the weekend – all nice and discreet of course – asking, in a roundabout way, fellow comrades at the Beeb to “take the heat off” NuLabour…what we have to remember is that the Beeb is the unofficial PR agency for NuLabour and so they have to earn their money.
Or rather earn OUR money via the telly tax.
Expect more positive Beeb stories about tractor production being up again soon as Gordo’s new spinmeister starts cracking the whip.
Why do the BBC pay the Guardian to advertise job vacancies when they have more reach with BBC.co.uk?
And why don’t they have a weekly BBC “job slot” on “Working Lunch” or some similar program?
I thought Dave swatted AM this morning quite well
Strange how AM remembers his journalistic origins while interviewing conservatives yet is so obsequious with NL interviewees
Planet Beeboid does have a web site for jobs at Al Beeb
https://jobs.bbc.co.uk
one can only presume that they advertise in the Guardian as well is just in case they miss any lefty out there
🙂
The BBC is actually funding the Guardian newspaper with its jobs. Not only that but leftie local councils do the same.
While the main UK political parties and the BBC refuse to even contemplate that that the Bishop of Rochester may be right about the growing number of parts of Britain which may be ‘no-go’ areas to non-Muslims, other commentators see it as a serious social and cultural problem.
For example, in today’s ‘Sunday Times’, Shiraz Maher refers to areas like Leytonstone, London and to Small Heath, Birmingham. He quotes Manzoor Moghal, chairman of Muslim Forum, who is “unequivocal about the dangers which such Islamification poses. ‘We have a cultural and social apartheid which fundamentalists thrive off,’ he says.” –
“Muslim Britain is becoming one big no-go area”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3176455.ece
Ed Husain, ex- activist in Hizb-ut-Tahrir, has a piece in today’s ‘Telegraph’ in which he praises Bishop Nazir-Ali for raising the issue of ‘no-go’ areas. Hussain notes the presence of these areas, while – “The uncontrolled arrival of new immigrants only compounds the insularity.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=RQGSOS4XBJIZNQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/opinion/2008/01/13/do1303.xml
It is not suprising that the ‘Telegraph’ has an article today:
“Muslims must do more to integrate, says poll”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=TLGRLK5PYP2DBQFIQMFSFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2008/01/13/nalien213.xml
Mr Anon:
Planet Beeboid does have a web site for jobs at Al Beeb
https://jobs.bbc.co.uk
one can only presume that they advertise in the Guardian as well is just in case they miss any lefty out there
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It has this as an opening paragraph:
“The BBC is a vibrant, fast moving, audience focused organisation whose core values are creativity, collaboration, trust, audiences, quality and respect. The BBC exists to enrich people’s lives with great programmes and services that inform, educate and entertain. Its vision is to be the most creative, trusted organisation in the world.”
Excuse me while I roll around the floor laughing…..
The Beeb are leading all their news bulletins with the re-announced ‘organ donation’ proposals.. “Gordon Brown has called for a national debate..”
A blatant bit of spin although it probably successfully diverts some attention from the Labour funding scandals.
A question to any BBC hacks reading, at what time did you get the phone call from Labour HQ telling you what the running order for your news bulletins was to be today?
bodo ur right and its discussed it the thread below this one
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I expect the worst from tomorrow night’s BBC Panorama, 8-30 pm GMT, on the millions of illegal immigrants from Libya trying to get to live in the UK.
The implication from the way the BBC web piece (below) is written is that these people are ‘brave’ economic migrants, and the BBC does not demur from the Labour government’s mantra: ‘mass immigration is wonderful’, despite the evidence of social, economic and cultural costs to UK people. For reminder of costs, see: http://www.migrationwatch.org
I doubt if the ‘Panorama’ will make the connection between such immigration and the negative effects on e.g., lower skilled UK indigenous workers. I wonder if such UK workers will figure prominently in terms of argument and visual presentation. Or will the BBC’s treatment will the usual one of ‘multiculturalist’ sympathy towards the mass immigrant policy instead? We shall see.
“Destination UK”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7181310.stm
For more on the putative, plucky illegal immigrants from Libya, and ‘Panorama’, see today’s ‘Observer’:-
“Libya key transit for UK-bound migrants” (Note the word ‘migrant’ is used to avoid the accurate word: IMMIGRANT.):-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/libya/story/0,,2239907,00.html
Two recent incidents have transpired in the US were the father has murdered his children. Both are ugly yet the BBC only reports on one. Guess if you can guess why the father killed his daughters in the story the BBC didn’t report.
US children ‘thrown off bridge’
A man in the US state of Alabama has confessed to throwing his four young children off a bridge, police said. Lam Luong, 37, has been charged with four counts of murder. Divers are searching the waters along the coast of Alabama for the bodies of the children.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7180276.stm
and the story the BBC hasn’t reported on;
Slain sisters remembered at vigil
Sarah Said’s final phone call rang into the Irving police dispatcher about 7:30 p.m. on New Year’s Day: “I’m dying, I’m dying, I’m dying …” About an hour later, a man walked up to an orange cab parked at the Omni Mandalay Hotel in Irving. He discovered carnage – the bullet-shredded bodies of 17-year-old Sarah and 18-year-old Amina Said, honor students and athletes at Lewisville High School. Almost immediately, police issued an arrest warrant for the girls’ father, 50-year-old Yaser Said, an Egyptian-born cab driver who family members said was given to fits of violence, threats and gun-waving rants about how Western culture was corrupting the chastity of his daughters.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/011008dnmetteenskilled.7ba7cc6.html
More here
http://www.star-telegram.com/crime_courts/story/390149.html
George R | 13.01.08 – 1:00 pm |
Pfff. Obviously MULTICULTURALISM has SCUPPERED the Muslims HEART FELT DESIRE to “INTEGRATE”. I am of course being sarcastic. But that wont bother the ASS HATS who run this country, this country is one big Darwin award.
The Mail on Sunday carried the story about George Osbourne.
As for Hain he is a total joke, always has been always will be.
starfish:
I thought Dave swatted AM this morning quite well
Yes, being a northern working class lad I’m not a great fan of Etonians – but I thought Cameron absolutely demolished “Red Andy” this morning.
Cameron got off to a good start by interrupting Marr’s intro about the aborted election having been the Tories lucky break – by simply saying crisply “I’m afraid you’re wrong …”.
After that it was all downhill for Marr.
In the end he was physically cowering and wringing his hands – like a cringing, incompetent manservant getting a dressing down from the young master
“In the end he was physically cowering and wringing his hands – like a cringing, incompetent manservant getting a dressing down from the young master..”
He’ll have been fretting about the bollocking he’ll be getting from NuLab spinmiesters after the show, for allowing Dave to shit all over him.
“”Libya key transit for UK-bound migrants” (Note the word ‘migrant’ is used to avoid the accurate word: IMMIGRANT.):-”
Both of which are used to avoid the word colonialists.
This post was on a previous thread, however, it deserves to be given it’s own thread.
Peter Du Reitz:
AJukDD: Makes the most valid point on this thread, where did John Reith get his figures for civilian deaths from Israeli attacks from?.
Clearly John Reith needs to provide exactly how he managed to come up with the figures he spouts.
Unfortunatly, the posters here have once again missed the chance to force John Reith hand, you allow yourselves to be misdirected by John Reith into other topics, if John Reith cannot/will not answer the question than anything he says will be discredited.
Posters here must use John Reith weakness against him, if he cannot prove his claims then keep pushing him, eventually John Reith will either go away or start telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Peter Du Reitz | 13.01.08 – 4:57 pm | #
“The BBC uses a wide range of both print and online media to publicise its vacancies to the general public.
It uses media of proven effectiveness to reach audiences with skills and experience relevant to the vacancies, whilst at the same time making cost effective use of Licence Payers funds.
Last year, the BBC used over 250 different publications and online sites to advertise its vacancies. The Guardian is just one of these, and is generally used where we need to attract media professionals, in the same way as the BBC uses the Financial Times to attract finance professionals. 20% of BBC vacancies advertised to the public in the twelve month period appeared in The Guardian print and online editions.”
Another myth demolished.
“hey where quite cunning though, this morning on the news running up to Andrew MArr show, they followed Hains story directly by Osbournes story, and, if i remember correctly used the term ‘also’, giving the direct implication that Osbourne had done exactly the same as Hain.”
Yet there is NOTHING on the politics page of the BBC website as at 2 minutes ago about Osbourne…funny that. You’d think there wasn;t a story or something…so why add it to the Hain affair. BBC getting really desperate now!
Without the BBC and the public sector advertising revenue,and If I remember correctly,ownership of the AutoTrader,the Guardian would be out of business.
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“Joel:
Another myth demolished.
Joel | 13.01.08 – 5:49 pm | #”
Where did you get that information from? Link please?
Another myth demolished.
Joel | Homepage | 13.01.08 – 5:49 pm | #
Clearly the BBC employs and advertises for thousands of support staff – engineers, technicians, cameramen, stagehands, drivers, cleaners, accountants etc etc etc.
The people who are in a postion to contribute to what Peter Horrocks, on his blog, calls “our agenda” are the journo’s, editors, presenters, researchers, programme commisioners etc.
The interesting figure would be how many of these are recruited exclusively from the Grauniad.
It’s beyond parody. On Radio 4 news at 6 o’clock news this evening, directly following a piece on the egregious Hain, the BBC attempted yet again to draw an equivalence with George Osborne. The words of the announcer were “And meanwhile, the Conservatives are excusing George Osborne for not reporting his donations on the grounds that the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards said he didn’t have to do so” – or in words very similar. This is incredible, and yet again an example of the most blatant reporting bias and sleight of hand from the BBC.
It is surely obvious to any fair minded person that by consulting the Commissioner, Osborne had in effect reported his donation, just as the rules require. To imply that that the Conservatives were trying to make excuses for something Osborne had omitted to do, is tantamount to a lie. The lefty hacks who write the bulletins clearly have no scruples or moral integrity.
Dave T, you need to scroll down a bit on that article about Hain.
The BBC, British victims of American justice and half a story.
‘I’ve rotted in hell’ says Richey
Kenny Richey, who spent more than 20 years on death row, has insisted he did not deliberately start a fire in which a two-year-old girl died. Richey, who was freed from prison in the US last week following a plea deal, is now back in Edinburgh.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7185719.stm
So the BBC promotes this story of Hell for yet another British citizen and even gives you a line of that hell ;
Timeline: Kenny Richey’s release
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7169731.stm
Here’s something the BBC doesn’t tell you. In what year did Kenny Richey become a British citizen?
1964 when he was born in Holland? No
1982 when he moved to live in America? No
1984 when he became an American Marine No?
How about 2003..
Death row inmate banks on new British citizenship
The awarding of British citizenship to Ohio death row inmate Kenny Richey has given hope to his many supporters who believe he is innocent of the 1986 arson death of a 2-year-old Columbus Grove, Ohio, girl.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030810/NEWS24/108100103
I wonder why the BBC forgot to mention the above from its usual corrosive reporting on the US.
The BBC, British victims of American justice and half a story.
The BBC isn’t showing Men In Black 2 tonight, biased in favour of aliens.
The BBC, aliens from outer space and half a story.
I’m waiting for some sort of balance on the whaling story. All we get so far is Jonah Fisher (made up name surely) and Greepeace equals right, whaling wrong.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7185622.stm
Joel
THIS article which (a) allows TWO Labour clowns (Malloch-Brown – who was given subsidised housing by George Soros (who also co-sponsored the infamous Lancet Iraq report)and some Labour MP called Kevan Jones who is given his own wee box all on his own for his comment.
Meanwhile in the article it says Osborne is different “as the money had been declared to, and published by, the Electoral Commission.” Which is true as Osborne HAS recorded the donations with the Electoral Commission, something Hain did not do at all.
My point still stands – if the Osborne case WAS the same as Hain’s and as serious (which it is NOT) then the BBC would have it as a separate article, on the front page, screaming it from the roof tops and so on. The fact that they have only slipped it into a couple of news bulletins and this article shows that they too recognise that these two cases ARE NOT the same. But hey, anything to try and divert attention away from their Labour pals eh?
Joel,
Ignore BBC bias at your own peril.
Dave T,’Loans for peerages’/party funding’ is story that has been running for some time. There will be developments from some time. I don’t understand how you can read anything more into these stories being included in the same article than that.
The Peter Hain story is one of the main lead headlines today, across all networks, the Mail on Sunday (that well knowm liberal left wing insitiution) reported the Osbourne story today.
Perhaps when asking yourself why you percieve it that way, you should question your own bias?
I don’t think the two cases are the same either.
Where in the article does it suggest they are, in your words ‘giving the direct implication that Osbourne had done exactly the same as Hain’?
According to your logic, reporting it is biased, not reporting it is biased, and putting it in the same article is biased?
“..The Guardian is just one of these, and is generally used where we need to attract media professionals…”
You mean useless pillocks?
What is a Media professional?
Would you not advertise in say the Financial Times if you wanted to employ a reporter on business?
Would you not advertise in a scientific journal for a reporter with an engineering or science background?
I suspect this is why the BBC ends up with “pillocks” like Roger Harrabin as their “environment analyst” with little better than some poncy degree in English.
I can’t ever remember seeing a BBC job advertised in the Daily Mail.
‘What is a Media professional?’
I think it’s a euphemism for unemployed. You know, like ‘artist’ or ‘Graphic Design graduate’.
Anyway, I think the BBC like to advertise in the Guardian for two reasons: i) Guardian-readers tend to be smug, self-righteous cretins, so they’ll hit the ground running at the BBC; ii) Guardian-readers make up a miniscule fraction of the total newspaper readership, which closely resembles the BBC’s – in terms of size – agenda beneficiaries.
Oh, and of course, the Guardian has a heavy left-wing bias, just like the BBC.
dave t | 13.01.08 – 8:14 pm |
Would that be the George Soros who caused the Black Wednesday interest rate shennanigens. The man who wiped billions of French and British currencies in order to fund the Georgian opposition?
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20040721/ai_n12800366
Interesting that this article about a viewer survey about the BBC says:
“What You Think of the BBC? also reveals that instead of thinking of the BBC as the nation’s “Auntie”, people are now inclined to personify the corporation as “a man in his 50s, suited, comfortably off, conventional, conservative and reserved, who appears friendly but was powerful and sometimes domineering”.
“conservative and reserved”…? Not liberal and radical” then?
I notice that Alda Barry has said that the advice given to George Osborne was “unclear”
However, this doesn’t appear to stop the BBC giving more time to this story than the slippery Peter Hain.
WE had the USELESS Nu Labour prat Stephen Pound attacking Goerge Osbourne.
Get your effing act together BBC and report the FACTS.
“instead of thinking of the BBC as the nation’s “Auntie”, people are now inclined to personify the corporation as “a man in his 50s,”
Thee BBC is a cross dresser?
“a man in his 50s”
Soon to die of stroke?
Joel:
http://findarticles.com/p/articl…21/ ai_n12800366
Interesting that this article about a viewer survey about the BBC says:
Interesting indeed Joel ….. from the same article:-
The report also concludes that most people see the licence fee as the “least worst” way to fund the BBC. But a Mori poll commissioned by the Government reveals that nearly two thirds of the public did not support the continuation of the licence fee.
So two thirds want the licence fee withdrawn – last time I looked we’re still a democracy, so let’s get on with it and privatise the lot of you.
Once you’re privatised you can play the Red Flag before every news bulletin and broadcast the call to prayer five times a day as far as I’m concerned.
I’m sure you’ll find an audience.
Might not be quite big enough to keep you all in the manner you’ve been acustomed to though – Eh?
Once you’re privatised you can play the Red Flag before every news bulletin and broadcast the call to prayer five times a day as far as I’m concerned.
Now Thats Comedy!
Fibs about Scotland in the BBC’s Politics Show
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=B4KD21BN0KGOZQFIQMGSFF4AVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2008/01/14/do1407.xml
On Sunday evenining Radio 3 broadcast a programme called Rules of Engagement. This was about how artists can involve themselves in anti-war and anti-global warming politics. All very predictable stuff it was too – after all, why should artists miss out on any public cash that the BBC and other public bodies have to spend on their propaganda on these topics?
Cornelia Parker, the presenter, sounded the typical posh(ish) BBC arty type. During an interview with Gusatv Mezger, she told us that he had been ‘sent to prison for demonstrating against nuclear weapons’. Yet another example of sloppy, innaccurate politically biased BBC think. He was sent to prison in 1961 for refusing to be bind himself to a promise of good behaviour for the following 12 months after he was arrested for blocking public roads during an anti-nuclear weapons demo. Being anti-nuclear weapons has never been a criminal offence in this country, and nobody has ever been jailed for this reason.
Why should I pay for politically motivated rubbish like this programme?
Radio 3 should stick to classical music. Programmes like this lower its reputation.
Isn’t it sad that JR “works” on these talkbacks only during regular work hours and gets payed for it… BY YOU!
Joel:
“The BBC isn’t showing Men In Black 2 tonight, biased in favour of aliens.
The BBC, aliens from outer space and half a story.”
It’s nice to see BBC news being equated to “Men in black 2”.
You are right, both are fictional.
JRSIHG
In a democracy people need to express a preference for something to be replaced. The fact that nobody has yet come up with a specific funding system (or abolition) that market research shows to be preferable is unfortunately the best argument for the continuation of the status quo.