Why is Angry Young Alex posting here? At his age he should be mooning over some celebrity,squeezing his zits or amusing himself by abusing himself.This is most unnatural for someone a “Big School”.
I don’t think this Iran-born woman will get much media coverage from the BBC:-
” She is against multiculturalism and cultural relativity, which further divides society into cultural and religious groups, and ‘leaves people at the mercy of their own culture.’ There is a political agenda behind Williams’ remarks, Arjomand argued. ‘It is this: allow the Islamists some freedom and segregate them from us.'”
‘Iran-born Activist Wants West to Ban Sharia Courts’
Alex has succeeded with his troll-like wind up antics.
Sharia will not be brought in here. Despite the BBC trying to cool the whole debate down (not their job) the public has gone balistic over this.
The people of this country rightly sense that Sharia being enshrined in law would be the beginning of the end for the country. That it has already started to be used in some arbitration cases was a shock for many (and was largely unreported by the BBC).
My feeling is the BBC will be forced to fall in behind public feeling on this as the public will simply refuse to be led on something this important.
“Sharia will not be brought in here. Despite the BBC trying to cool the whole debate down (not their job) the public has gone balistic over this.’
You really think this. You have a government that finds a way to approve multiple wives without going to the people. You have a government which will develop Sharia compliant bonds so it can go after Islamic money (what did they do before this).
And you still think the UK will not get Sharia?
Much like the decision to nationalize the bank, it is the way the big brother government types think. They know better than the man in the street. It is for your own good.
There’s one aspect of Sharia law, and indeed of Islam in general, that I haven’t seen discussed much.
Like a lot of people I imagine, since 9/11 I’ve read a lot of stuff on Islam and read a lot of websites where Muslims seek advice on Sharia.
It seems to me that in Islam the religious and legal authorities are self-elected Imams who derive their power from their popularity, their oratorical skill or their powers of self promotion.
As far as I understand, there is no formal legal education process, no hierarchy of professional qualifications and no supervisory body to adjudicate and maintain standards. Unlike English Common law or European Napoleonic law there is no formal system of recognizing precedents or making statutes.
In short, I can’t see that Sharia really qualifies as a legal system at all; it’s a superstition based belief system which may have some admirable, as well as some wholly objectionable, effects – but it can’t possibly be approached as a equivalent or even complementary to our civil law as the BBC article implies.
I’ve noticed that, in all the hot air that’s been expended since old beardie put his foot in it – I haven’t seen an analysis of Sharia by a proper lawyer. Has anyone else?
While R.Williams wants some sort of place for Sharia law in the UK, and despite the the BBC’s somewhat neutered description of Sharia law, most British people oppose it.
In this regard, Hugh Fitzgerald has a list of 16, and more, actions we need to take on this:-
“My feeling is the BBC will be forced to fall in behind public feeling on this as the public will simply refuse to be led on something this important.”
How Rockall. Please explain because we must be living in different nations.
The British are a fearful, shallow bunch and I see absolutely NO retaliation so far – not even an ounce – against our oppressors. If Islam wants Sharia law, then so be it. There will be no retaliation. Or what there will be will be too little too late and cut down instantly by those who would already have gained too much power.
When you yourself openly admit you will pay your license fee because you don’t want to get in any trouble, where do you think all these brave noble British freedom fighters will suddenly spring up from. And why do you feel it’s the job of EVERYONE ELSE to refuse to be led on something like this?
The BBC have got this far and continue to do so because Britain is so placid and docile. The only thing we can hope for is that when we do become an Islamic state, other European nations will double their efforts to end this murderous evil cult that is Islam.
“When you yourself openly admit you will pay your license fee because you don’t want to get in any trouble, where do you think all these brave noble British freedom fighters will suddenly spring up from…”
“Other Islam-derived practices do not (yet) exist in the West but do prevail in the Muslim world. These include punishing a woman for being raped, exploiting children as suicide bombers, and executing offenders for such crimes as converting out of Islam, adultery, having a child out of wedlock, or witchcraft. Western solidarity can win concessions in these areas too.”
Witchcraft! How many more centuries can this cave dwelling Islamic scum regress.
That’s it. I’m off to wipe my arse with a copy of the Koran.
TPFJ:
witchcraft is in the eye of the beholder. A guy said the woman made him impotent so the courts found her guilty of witchcraft. Don’t forget, the appeals court, whatever this is, said they couldn’t kill her. So they found her guilty of something else and sentenceed her to death again.
Really good news to see that those Saudi peddlers of Islamic hatred and miseducation are having the spotlight shone once again on their murky little world.
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Why is Angry Young Alex posting here? At his age he should be mooning over some celebrity,squeezing his zits or amusing himself by abusing himself.This is most unnatural for someone a “Big School”.
I don’t think this Iran-born woman will get much media coverage from the BBC:-
” She is against multiculturalism and cultural relativity, which further divides society into cultural and religious groups, and ‘leaves people at the mercy of their own culture.’ There is a political agenda behind Williams’ remarks, Arjomand argued. ‘It is this: allow the Islamists some freedom and segregate them from us.'”
‘Iran-born Activist Wants West to Ban Sharia Courts’
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2978
Alex has succeeded with his troll-like wind up antics.
Sharia will not be brought in here. Despite the BBC trying to cool the whole debate down (not their job) the public has gone balistic over this.
The people of this country rightly sense that Sharia being enshrined in law would be the beginning of the end for the country. That it has already started to be used in some arbitration cases was a shock for many (and was largely unreported by the BBC).
My feeling is the BBC will be forced to fall in behind public feeling on this as the public will simply refuse to be led on something this important.
The BBC does not report the dhimmi Labour government on Iran:
“The shame of Iran”
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2008/02/shame-of-iran.html
“Sharia will not be brought in here. Despite the BBC trying to cool the whole debate down (not their job) the public has gone balistic over this.’
You really think this. You have a government that finds a way to approve multiple wives without going to the people. You have a government which will develop Sharia compliant bonds so it can go after Islamic money (what did they do before this).
And you still think the UK will not get Sharia?
Much like the decision to nationalize the bank, it is the way the big brother government types think. They know better than the man in the street. It is for your own good.
You will get Sharia law and you will like it.
There’s one aspect of Sharia law, and indeed of Islam in general, that I haven’t seen discussed much.
Like a lot of people I imagine, since 9/11 I’ve read a lot of stuff on Islam and read a lot of websites where Muslims seek advice on Sharia.
It seems to me that in Islam the religious and legal authorities are self-elected Imams who derive their power from their popularity, their oratorical skill or their powers of self promotion.
As far as I understand, there is no formal legal education process, no hierarchy of professional qualifications and no supervisory body to adjudicate and maintain standards. Unlike English Common law or European Napoleonic law there is no formal system of recognizing precedents or making statutes.
In short, I can’t see that Sharia really qualifies as a legal system at all; it’s a superstition based belief system which may have some admirable, as well as some wholly objectionable, effects – but it can’t possibly be approached as a equivalent or even complementary to our civil law as the BBC article implies.
I’ve noticed that, in all the hot air that’s been expended since old beardie put his foot in it – I haven’t seen an analysis of Sharia by a proper lawyer. Has anyone else?
“Why Do Muslims Execute Innocent People?”
http://www.meforum.org/article/1000
While R.Williams wants some sort of place for Sharia law in the UK, and despite the the BBC’s somewhat neutered description of Sharia law, most British people oppose it.
In this regard, Hugh Fitzgerald has a list of 16, and more, actions we need to take on this:-
“What Can Be Done?”
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/13101
A memo to BBC (and all of us):-
“If Westerners stick together, the Sharia is doomed. If we do not we are doomed.” (Daniel Pipes).
‘A Small Victory over Sharia’
http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=694E65BB-62C6-452D-859D-AB7737B044E5
Rockall:
“My feeling is the BBC will be forced to fall in behind public feeling on this as the public will simply refuse to be led on something this important.”
How Rockall. Please explain because we must be living in different nations.
The British are a fearful, shallow bunch and I see absolutely NO retaliation so far – not even an ounce – against our oppressors. If Islam wants Sharia law, then so be it. There will be no retaliation. Or what there will be will be too little too late and cut down instantly by those who would already have gained too much power.
When you yourself openly admit you will pay your license fee because you don’t want to get in any trouble, where do you think all these brave noble British freedom fighters will suddenly spring up from. And why do you feel it’s the job of EVERYONE ELSE to refuse to be led on something like this?
The BBC have got this far and continue to do so because Britain is so placid and docile. The only thing we can hope for is that when we do become an Islamic state, other European nations will double their efforts to end this murderous evil cult that is Islam.
“When you yourself openly admit you will pay your license fee because you don’t want to get in any trouble, where do you think all these brave noble British freedom fighters will suddenly spring up from…”
Quite so!
George R:
“Other Islam-derived practices do not (yet) exist in the West but do prevail in the Muslim world. These include punishing a woman for being raped, exploiting children as suicide bombers, and executing offenders for such crimes as converting out of Islam, adultery, having a child out of wedlock, or witchcraft. Western solidarity can win concessions in these areas too.”
Witchcraft! How many more centuries can this cave dwelling Islamic scum regress.
That’s it. I’m off to wipe my arse with a copy of the Koran.
TPFJ:
witchcraft is in the eye of the beholder. A guy said the woman made him impotent so the courts found her guilty of witchcraft. Don’t forget, the appeals court, whatever this is, said they couldn’t kill her. So they found her guilty of something else and sentenceed her to death again.
And Jihad and Sharia are not only life-threatening to Christians:
” Buddhism under Islam ”
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/13128
And the life-threatening, Islam-inspired race hate goes on and on in the UK:
“Saudi school copied race hate text books before shredding them”
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23440080-details/Saudi+school+%27copied+race+hate+text+books+before+shredding+them%27/article.do
“So what would it take to alarm you? – Sharia in Britain? Taxpayer-subsidized polygamy in Toronto? Yawn. Nothing to see here.” (Mark Steyn).
http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20080214_96039_96039
George R | 20.02.08 – 4:34 pm
Really good news to see that those Saudi peddlers of Islamic hatred and miseducation are having the spotlight shone once again on their murky little world.
What will it take to shut that school down?