Wonder if you managed to wade through Frank Gardner’s latest paean to the wonders of Arab diplomacy here? Yes, US and UK armed forces risk life and limb in the dangerous parts of Afghanistan fighting the Taliban but like all good leftists Frank believes that “winning hearts and minds” is the name of the game and this is where troops from the United Arab Emirates score, delivering humanitarian aid to their fellow Muslims and, on occasion, even fighting their way out of Taliban ambushes. Frank manages to get us some Afghan comment..
“People are not afraid that Emiratis will harm their religion, or disrespect the mosque or burn the mosque, things of this nature,” Governor Patan says. “People are very friendly with them. Everybody will drag them in for lunch or for dinner.” These are hearts-and-minds operations at their most effective – drinking tea with Afghans, discussing what help can be provided, Frank gushes.
The problem is that drinking tea is not going to do anything to stop the Taliban, much as the BBC might wish otherwise. This is a war. I also reject the implied slur concerning the behaviour of US/UK troops in the quote he provides. This is subtle character assassination of our own military and how they behave. Now I applaued all efforts made to combat Islamic extremism and in that regard the efforts of the UAE soldiers are to be welcomed but the likes of Frank Gardner is VERY selective who he lavishes praise upon – and the US and UK armed forces do not fall into this elite camp. Maybe if we sent in a battalion of aromatherapists and stress councillors Frank might take notice of the gallantry of OUR soldiers?
Terry,
Thanks for posting that reponse to Joe – trust it was helpful to him getting to the bias.
Joe,
The words matter so much and whilst I accept that we can all choose them poorly at times, we must hold the BBC responsible for what those it employs as professional wordsmiths actually say. Hope you agree.
I provided a link to posts at LGF that deal with Lionheart.
HA HA HA HA.
I provided a link to posts at LGF that deal with Lionheart.
Biodegradable’s Ghost | 03.04.08 – 7:39 pm | #
Did you search all the links on the blog that deeply?
HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Lucky it came up as the other lion heart and not porn eh?
Wasn’t it our birthdays recently?
Biodegradable’s Ghost | 03.04.08 – 7:35 pm |
61 now, but don’t look a day over 75
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Must off now – will catch up later.
Must hasten to add that it is the child bride that watches BBC World, not me. At least we don’t have to pay the licence theft tax any more!!
Looking for something to throw anything. AS far back as March 11. Dear oh Dear you’ve got it bad.
This better?
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:862VBonxvDgJ:typhooshaunt.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html+typhooshaunt.blogspot.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=firefox-a
Note the link to Lionheart. As I’ve said I don’t give a fig whether you link to him, the BNP, Stormfront or the bloody KKK.
What I do care about is you calling me a liar for stating the fact that you did have a link to Lionheart, and for deceptively altering your page to back up your lie.
Now do please STFU.
TPO,
I just celebrated my 59th, pushing 70 too š
I have to go too, my Irish friend and his Spanish wife are coming over for dinner – thank the lord he’s nothing like “Typhoo” š
What I do care about is you calling me a liar
You are and repeatedly.
You say you don’t giv a fig then why did you go looking and searching and researching my blog today, when the argument here was finished.
simple
You were beaten in an argument and went looking for ammunition, thinking the broken link to a site which DOES NOT support the BNP was a slur, but you assumed the site had links to the BNP, and accused me of having nice friends, ie the BNP. Isn’t that right, but you won’t admit it.
What I do care about is you calling me a liar
You are and repeatedly.
Are you saying that you did not have a link on your blog to the Lionheart blog until earlier today when you changed it, and that me and google are lying about it?
Just answer me that.
Typhoo/Bio,
Do me a favour and let it go please. There is a serious issue here and all this squabbling is a pointless diversion. In the words of John Lennon, give peace a chance (after we’ve bombed the Taliban back to the stone age!)
You were beaten in an argument…
Which argument was that?
“Team America Fuck Yeah!” in most of Iraq has brought about relative peace and a great deal of respect for American armed forces.
The laughable “hearts and minds” tactics by the British in Basra has brought about a retreat.
How can the BBC, who have been peddling the ridiculous ‘earts’n’minds tactics for more than 5 years, continue to promote such a flawed philosophy?
Surely beeboids must be feeling a great pang of cognitive dissonance?
David lol, I’ll let him ramble for a bit, but I’ll let it go FOR YOU and since YOU ASKED.
He keeps covering old ground anyway, and he’s knocking on a bit so ….lol
I refer anyone else who wants to discuss this issue further re my blog,to come over there and discuss it, and Bio still has not answered my 8.29 post so until he does ……lol
David,
I’ll let go of it when Typhoo ceases to call me a liar and admits to falsifying her blog.
I think it’s a serious issue when posters here fabricate things and constantly abuse other posters on the basis of lies.
I’m the one being stalked and abused and slansered here and Typhoo is one of the nastiest trolls I’ve had the misfortune to come across.
slansered should of course read slandered, and no I will not continue this on Typhoo’s blog.
‘slansered’
eh?
MY 8.19 post?
Note readers I can let it go since David was so gracious as to ask, but bio is trolling now also.
Typhoo,
Are you saying that you did not have a link on your blog to the Lionheart blog until earlier today when you changed it, and that me and google are lying about it?
Just answer me that.
8.19?
Now for the sake of the other readers lets go over to my blog and stop your trolling.
There is no question at http://www.haloscan.com/comments/patrickcrozier/7725424153696301134/?a=24436#392599
Typhoo,
Are you saying that you did not have a link on your blog to the Lionheart blog until earlier today when you changed it, and that me and google are lying about it?
Just answer me that.
I’ve answered all that before.
OK for the sake of the other readers here is my position. I’ve answered all this stuff all through this thread. I realise the others are fed up, now bio – if you wish to continue then for the sake of the others lets move it.
You can post the findings here when we’ve finished if you like.
Everything has been answered and re answered. It’s circular. You thought you could slur me when there was no slur, and went searching for anything.
Otherwise why do it at around 3 this afternoon?
You got it bad.
Thats my last word for Davids sake and for the others.
David and Terry,
Thank you both for clarifing my query, I must admit that Mr Gardner goes way to far with his unqualified support for the UAE troops.
Internet = Serious Business
Children
Having watched my webserver logs going haywire today can I suggest that:
You don’t have to be a genius to figure out that this
http://www.lionheart.me.uk/blog/index.html
isn’t quite the same as this
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/
Especially because my post tells you so.
Spare us the paranoia and the conspiracy theories. And all the other nonsense.
Just go and admire the pretty pictures and chill.
I’ve answered all that before.
No you haven’t. You have refused to give a simple answer to a simple question. A simple yes or no is all that’s required.
If you posted that link by mistake you should say so and I’ll respect you for your honesty – I’ve already given you the chance to do that and implied that I’d give you the benefit of the doubt in that case, he’s another chance, don’t waste it.
If you deliberately posted that link then at least have the courage to defend your actions and I’ll respect you for that too.
At the moment I have zero respect for you and believe you have lost any credibility you may have had here previously.
So here we go again, just try to answer unequivocally and honestly, no more tricks and please no more insults:
In the light of this:
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:862VBonxvDgJ:typhooshaunt.blogspot.com/2008_04_01_archive.html+typhooshaunt.blogspot.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=firefox-a
Are you still saying that you did not have a link on your blog to the Lionheart blog until earlier today when you changed it, and that me and google are lying about it?
Just answer me that.
http://www.unc.edu/depts/jomc/academics/dri/idog.html
You don’t have to be a genius to figure out that this
http://www.lionheart.me.uk/blog/…blog/ index.html
isn’t quite the same as this
http://lionheartuk.blogspot.com/
Especially because my post tells you so.
Thank you Steve!
Typhoo, you do realise you are talking to one of the elder statesmen of this blog? If you’d been around the block just a little bit, then you may just have zipped your lips a tad more often.
By the way Steve, Don McCullin and I both used the same photographic laboratory in the 1970s and I would often bump into him there.
You may be interested in this:
http://www.horvatland.com/pages/entrevues/06-mccullin-en_en.htm
Bio, why did you bring my blog on to this site? Because you thought the lion heart site was linked to the BNP isn’t that right? OF course it is lol. You thought it was a slur didn’t you?
No BNP link, no admission from you as to your motives. Spoof all you like.
All things have been said, all else is circular, you want to discuss links on my blog, take it over there, and lets get tore in. I’ve given David Vance my word and I keep my word.
Wazzup lol scared of me over there. You are a big girls blouse. You brought my site on to this one when there was absolutely no need. Isn’t that so?
Then you sneak back after a long break to get the last word. lol I’ll be linking the lion heart site there shortly so don’t forget to comment on it now?
Weren’t you pretty vocal at hillhunt re his site too? There are people on the net who make contributions as I do, then there are people on the net who do nothing, contribute nothing and spend their time criticising the efforts of others. Thats you BGB (big girls blouse lol)
Did you read my post at 5.42? What does it say? It says this:
‘I took this blog over originally from Hannah, it was hannahs haunt originally we’d set it up together, then she pulled out. Her husband has cancer and is fatally ill.’
I never posted any links, ever.
Here are problems reported with google cache pages, caches being wrong.
2005-05-08: Status: STILL NOT FIXED. Google only hides the wrong URLs artificially when you search using a special syntax (“site:www.example.com”). The wrong URLs are still in the database and they still come up for regular searches.
http://clsc.net/research/google-302-page-hijack.htm
I have a very busy site and a very long history of great google
results.
This week google starting showing my dynamic pages as the wrong page
for example variable for page are productcode=1 google is showing the
right url but the page in the cache and serps is productcode=99 (as an
example)
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-chit-chat/browse_thread/thread/45c9388fbf37712f
i have site http://www.bestonlinejewelers.com when I check the cached page of
this site it shows not crawled. But when I check in google webmaster
central it shows crawled but wrong page
http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-Indexing/browse_thread/thread/3f7b7895d2269ef4/559c9b7e7e0552e4
First we noticed it on a few pages of our site then we noticed it on several sites of similar rank, now we are seeing it spread to other more powerful websites with pageranks of 8 plus. We have amassed quite a few examples from about 20 authority sites showing the wrong websites cache of page.
http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3589958.htm
Google does not always behave as advertised nor deliver the results expected.
http://www.searchengineshowdown.com/features/google/inconsistent.shtml
and on and on. Google cache is NOT totally reliable, but then I already told you that.
Now WHY DID YOU MENTION THE LION HEART BLOG AT ALL?
because you thought lion heart was linked to bnp, you clearly say so, and you thought it was a slur didn’t you? Not only that but you must have had to search and see who lion heart was if you linked it to lgf isn’t that right? So it follows you searched all the links on the blog right?
Like I said you got it bad man lol
Weren’t you pretty vocal at hillhunt re his site too?
I’ve never said anything to hillhunt about his site, in fact I don’t believe he even has a site. You’re confusing me with somebody else.
Typhoo,
You ae a fucking crackpot!
You really should take the advice that’s been offered to you and stop digging yourself into a bigger hole.
Not only that but you must have had to search and see who lion heart was if you linked it to lgf isn’t that right?
Wrong.
I already knew who Lionheart was because I’d followed the whole sad saga at LGF. That’s why when I saw your link I thought it was “interesting” that somebody like you would want to link there.
None of your links about google problems have anything to do with this issue.
The google cache of your pages are of your pages, not somebody else’s. Are you now saying that google has changed the links on it’s copy of your pages?
You’re crazier than a box of foxes!
Trying to talk sense to you is like trying to teach a dog to sing; it tires you out and annoys the dog.
I already knew who Lionheart was because I’d followed the whole sad saga at LGF. That’s why when I saw your link I thought it was “interesting” that somebody like you would want to link there
I’ve never posted nor linked to little green footballs, its not a site I even visit much. Perhaps a few times, I’ve NEVER linked anything to little green foot balls. Show me where my site is linked to little green footballs or where lgf is linked to me. IF it is I’ll be very flattered.
‘None of your links about google problems have anything to do with this issue.’
LOL. Here are the facts. I inherited the site plus links, if one had been broken and I’d known, I’d have fixed it. LOL You are a crazy low life. I never even bothered to check the links were correct. Believe what you like, you are doing your best to intimidate and bully someone into saying they did something they didn’t do.
I sincerely hope lgf’s is linked to me. I’ll be very flattered such a site would link my humble blog, so wheres the link?
oh man you’ve been crawling all over the web looking for links to me I didn’t even know was there.;-)
I’m flattered you’re so interested bio.
I’ll get on to google and explain that you’ve taken a whole day and found this problem and hopefully get an explanation.
Meanwhile keep fillinhg me in about who is highlighting me. I’m blushing
š I didn’t know I was so interesting.
Now where’s the lgf link please???
I already knew who Lionheart was because I’d followed the whole sad saga at LGF.
YOu didn’t know he’d broken his links with bnp did you?
OK I’m kiddin you about lgf’s but I thought I’d give you something to do – ie crawl the web investigating my blogs links.
Get a life.
It’s a shame this thread has turned into
a version of Woody Allen’s letters between two long-distance chess players.
I’m sure Bio and Typhoo are both warm, wonderful people but hi-jacking a thread to indulge in an endless “I said – you said” argument is kind of uncool. I think people come here to point out discuss, or defend the bias of Al-BBC…can we please keep it that way ? It should be borne in mind that there are constant newcomers to this site especially from the USA (where people are slowly waking up to the fact that Al-BBC is not an objective broadcast organization and is actually anti-Western, anti-Christian and anti-Israel) and they won’t come back here if all threads end up like this one.
Terry you’re right. I offered to move it. I’ll certainly NOT be posting here again.
Pity you all had to endure that. There is someone here who knows more about a blog I manage than I do. š
Thats kinda creepy. I’m toying with the idea of deleting it, it’ feels that the blog which had no business being mentioned here in the first place has been violated. Someone poked up its ass and tried to find something to slur it with. ughhhh
I’m not encountering that for having a different point of view.
Just for the record, I believe Bio is in the right here and Typhoo is an idiot.
I’ve never posted nor linked to little green footballs, its not a site I even visit much. Perhaps a few times, I’ve NEVER linked anything to little green foot balls. Show me where my site is linked to little green footballs or where lgf is linked to me. IF it is I’ll be very flattered.
I never said you linked to LGF, or posted there, or had anything to do with LGF you stupid prat!
I’ve made it clear that I used the LGF search links purely as a source of info on Lionheart for those who didn’t know who he is.
oh man you’ve been crawling all over the web looking for links to me I didn’t even know was there.
The only search I did on your site was to find your recent pages in their cache to prove that I am right in saying that you DID have a link to Lionheart, that you denied it, then when you saw for yourself you changed it but still refuse to exist it was ever on your page. That’s all.
Now, do by all means contact google and ask them why the pages in their cache include a link that you claim was never there, while nothing else on the page is changed. I’d love to hear their reply. It took me all of three minutes to find your cached pages by searching on “typhooshaunt.blogspot.com” and searching LGF for “Lionheart” took me all of 20 seconds.
Do also contact the Internet Police, if you can find them.
Thank you Anon | 04.04.08 – 11:07 am and Anonymous | 04.04.08 – 12:04 am
but still refuse to exist it was ever on your page should read but still refuse to admit it was ever on your page
Just for the record, I believe Typhoo is in the right here and Bio is an idiot.
anon:
Just for the record, I believe Typhoo is in the right here and Bio is an idiot.
anon | Homepage | 04.04.08 – 2:30 pm | #
Typhoo, could you be any more pathetic?.
Biodegradable’s Ghost | 04.04.08 – 11:34 am |
I thought by now you would have realised that they ALWAYS have to have the last word. š
It is thus in this household.
I too believe that Bio has just wanted to provoke a fight he can win to feel good. He has done this is in the past.
anomaly | Homepage | 04.04.08 – 5:00 pm |
And just to prove my point!!!
Indeed TPO, the anomalous, eponymous brand of tea has real problems with links doesn’t she?
Even forgot to change her homepage link when she changed her name š
What a maroon!