. I’m sure that you won’t have missed the BBC eulogising Alistair Darlings’ multi-billion tax bribe yesterday which now solves Labour’s problem with the voters, allegedly. However the bit that I can’t seem to find on the BBC coverage and which MAY have some relevance to those on the lowest incomes is as follows. “Basic rate taxpayers benefit by £120 while low income earners on £7,455 remain £32.40 worse off. Leading business and financial adviser, Grant Thornton, says the Chancellor’s announcement to raise personal allowances to offset losses to low income earners by the abolition of the 10p rate will still leave some low income earners worse off, while benefiting all basic rate taxpayers under 65 to the tune of £120.” In other words, the government is heaping incompetency upon incompetency even as the BBC leads it news agenda for the day with the news that Mr Broon is moving on from the 1op tax fiasco with his outline of the “Queen’s speech” today. It must be a nightmare for the BBC seeing the end is nigh for their thieving socialist pals in NuLabour and I’m enjoying every moment of it. Can you imagine what the mood will be like at the BBC when Labour is routed at the next election?
MOVE OVER DARLING
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The idea of outlining the Queens Speech in May is more pure Blairite spin as well- no-one (especially at the Beeb) ever points out the changes which have made the spin cycle so effective.
It’s certainly a shambles, but I can’t see the ‘eulogising’???
Cockney,
Reports on Guido, refer to the Radio 1 ‘news’ presener, stating ‘we’re all going to be £120 better off, yhay’ , or words to that effect.
But those on low pay are not actually benefiting are they? Even if you accept that the £120 gives back what they lost that only puts them back to the position they were in before the budget changes. Whilst everyone else has actually gained twice.
Think about it. If you’re a single bloke on above average earnings, you’re going to be much better off, but if you’re a single bloke on say £12k a year you’re simply back to square 1.
I don’t see how McLiebour are able to get away with this?
“I don’t see how McLiebour are able to get away with this?”
opinion polls suggest that they’re not 🙂
Martin, they won’t even be back to square one.
Losing the £2k odd tax band at 10% – call it £200 for the sake of argument.
Getting back, thanks to the overwhelming generosity of our betters, £600 at 20%, which is £120.
I’m aware this is simplistic and there are also tax credit implications(which the majority entitled don’t take up), but this is yet another change where the poorest paid lose out against the average paid.
But the headlines are good, so that’s alright then……
The headlines are only good on the BBC, though, Riddler.
Increasingly, people must be wondering why every other news outlet is pointing in horror at the shambling, dysfunctional golem called Gordon Brown, while the BBC hops from foot to foot, urging him on like a lovestruck cheerleader.
Broon’s actually quite capable when compared with his vicereine in Scotland, Wendy Alexander, who changed referendum policy yet again yesterday. With her it’s not so much u-turns as doughnuts.
“….urging him on like a lovestruck cheerleader.
GCooper | 14.05.08 – 9:50 am | ”
Superb quote!
I feel a pang of sympathy for the Beeb ‘Newsreaders’. When they sey out on their chosen careers, they saw themselves as intrepid journalists, investigative and forthright. Now they sit and read out NuLabour propaganda.
O/T: The hilarious Radio Solent discussion a couple of afternoons ago was : Do men always marry women like their mothers?
I rang into to protest at the suggestion that my mother was a lesbian, and they wouldn’t put me on air!
“I feel a pang of sympathy for the Beeb ‘Newsreaders’. When they sey out on their chosen careers, they saw themselves as intrepid journalists, investigative and forthright. Now they sit and read out NuLabour propaganda.”
Don’t,they are all Labour to the core and their pain is index linked for life.
riddler: Yep I’m just waiting to see how long it takes for someone to catch on to this.
This whole McLiebour thing is a piece of Newspeak.
With regards to this whole tax thing here are two quotes from 1984 (the McLiebour Bible) about chocolate. Now see why every time I hear a McLiebour announcenent (like the current one on the 10p tax) I smile
“…And sure enough, following on a gory description of the annihilation of a Eurasian army, with stupendous figures of killed and prisoners, came the announcement that, as from next week, the chocolate ration would be reduced from thirty grammes to twenty…”
Then later on Winston hears this.
“…As short a time ago as February, the Ministry of Plenty had issued a promise (a ‘categorical pledge’ were the official words) that there would be no reduction of the chocolate ration during 1984. Actually, as Winston was aware, the chocolate ration was to be reduced from thirty grammes to twenty at the end of the present week….”
“On Tuesday, Alistair Darling put up the personal tax allowance by £600 – meaning anyone earning up to £40,835 will gain £120 this year” –
well, that is a straightfoward lie (and it’s not a direct quote – it’s a beeboid spin).
Waiting to see how all the little beeboids here will try to explain this one away.
£120 better off! Fabulous news! I will save this extra cash towards paying the increase in my car tax!
Victoria Derbyshire on 5 lite this morning had Jacqi Spliff on. All Derbyshire has done is spin McLiebour crim efigures as “facts” despite no one believing a word of it.
Darling is just fiddling as Rome burns,nothing he or gordo can do will save them…they know it and so does the beeb.It won’t stop the beeb propogandising but it will increase the noticeable air of desperation which is always fun to listen to…I am loving every minute of it.
Me too 😉
Derbyshire has just done it again. Read out Government statistics on the numbers of Police Officers as FACTS. Yet she can’t tell us where the numbers are.
Derbyshire, you’re a prat.
the government must know how many coppers there are, surely? or was this an ‘aspiration’ for future numbers??
THE BBC!!! UNBIASED PROGRAMMING THAT YOU CAN TRUST!!!!:
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Who gives a stuff about the £120 a YEAR the government is giving back? The fact is that I calculated today that the costs of mortgages, food and fuel for an average UK family of 4 have risen by £200 PER MONTH since September. The Beeb can spin it any way they like – the truth is out there, and it bites. That’s why Liebour are going to lose, taking their Beeboid apologists with them.
Check out last night’s Newsnight interview with Darling. Paxo gave him a good stuffing.
Paxo,stuffing…yes the old ones are the best.
Ever seen the film “Downfall” about the last days in the Berlin bunker.
A bunch of deluded losers, planning new houses, promotions, holidays & how to enjoy the glory days to come – seemingly unaware of looming disaster.
So surreal and impossible, but then I look at the current government….
Funny how history always repeats itself.
“the government must know how many coppers there are, surely?”
Says who?
The Brown junta is not giving us anything.It is just not taking so much of our money,at the moment, because it is politically suicidal.
The oil price rise,which the junta cannot have foreseen,will soon replenish it’s coffers via increased tax take.Who will pay the tax?Why us of course both directly and in increased costs for everything.I doubt that the junta will even have to borrow a penny.
On a similar point to that made by dave s, I have yet to hear a single Beeboid ask the obvious question about the bill for the 10p tax escape scheme. Why could the money not have been found by cutting expenditure, rather than saddling us with even more debt?
There is an unspoken belief at the BBC that tax cutting is never possible. Why not? As dave s says, the tax take from massively inflated fuel costs is bringing untold sums into the government’s coffers.
And if that isn’t enough, why, the sum could easily be found by sacking a few outreach workers, real nappy advisers or visiting ‘compost doctors’.
Why not go further? Sack a few ministerial ‘special advisers’ and NHS management consultants, too, and Darling could probably slash income tax.
It just never occurs to the BBC mind, does it?
GCooper:
The BBC would never agree with cutting expenditure. It’s the Holy Grail of leftism, more spending.
Sorry to post off subject but 67 injured in bombing of Ashkelon Shopping Mall by Islamofascists and the BBC is totally shtum! Obviously waiting for Israeli retaliation so they can lead with that – our wonderful unbiased public broadcaster – not!
Get rid of the BBC and save £3billion.
Nachman | 14.05.08 – 8:01 pm |
Yes, unfortunately you have spelled out the BBC editorial policy in a manner in which Nick Reynolds could never admit. “It all started when Israel hit them back.”
“I have yet to hear a single Beeboid ask the obvious question about the bill for the 10p tax escape scheme. Why could the money not have been found by cutting expenditure, rather than saddling us with even more debt?”
A good point. The answer in this case of course is that you can’t instantly cut expenditure by ‘sacking’ a few thousand people so if you’re going to make an instant billion pound decision on the basis of media headlines and an impending bye election then you’re going to have to borrow it in the short term.
But it would obviously be entirely feasible to ask specifically what cuts the government is proposing to make to fund this move in the medium term – SURELY they’re not just going to leave it on the balance sheet for the next Parliament to sort out? Are they??