; Another day and another piece of steaming Labour propaganda served up by the BBC, this time in its grovelling report of Mr Broon’s “Global moral vision” (Cough Splutter) speech at the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland in Edinburgh. Note that the BBC uses this as an opportunity to attack Margaret Thatcher – who, unlike Mr Brown, was a three times winner much to their eternal chagrin.
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“He told the General Assembly there was a “a consistent ethical core” in all the world’s great religions…”
Especially the exploding rucksack religion.
I wish Gordon would stop flogging that dead horse.
I’d like to teach, the world to sing, in perfect har-mon-y, ta-ta-ta ta-ta-ta, ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-taaaa
Memo for Gordon Brown (and BBC) on the Ethics of Islam:-
“Kafir Dreams”
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/14669
Margaret Thatcher – who, unlike Mr Brown, was a three times winner much to their eternal chagrin.
Probably one of the few differences between these two free marketeers.
Hi Korova!
Fancy seeing you here.
If you’re right and Broon really IS a free marketeer, then here’s another key difference between him and Baroness T -she understood HOW to be a free marketeer and Gordie doesn’t!
“Probably one of the few differences between these two free marketeers.”
I thought you were supposed to be a anarchist.
One of the endearing characteristics of anarchists is that they don’t organise themselves very well. Korova clearly doesn’t organise his/her mind at all – like any good anarchist!
Remember those rough, tough, society-smashing anarchists – The Clash?
I gather one of them is now a chiropractor in the Hone Counties somewhere.
the bookies dont think labour will win the next general election
http://www.williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=9927
fantastic
cheers
Gas Guzzlin Geeza
Brown, the BBC, and ‘Today’:
(Extract from ‘Mail on Sunday’) –
“BBC insiders conceded that Mr Humphrys told the Premier he planned to give him a tough interview following claims that he had been ‘too soft’ on him previously • but they said Humphrys had been joking.”
From article titled:-
‘Brown’s anger as BBC host Humphrys threatens to give him a “hard time” in interview’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=567056&in_page_id=1770
“Probably one of the few differences between these two free marketeers”
Can someone send me some of the stuff that korova is on?
korova:
Margaret Thatcher – who, unlike Mr Brown, was a three times winner much to their eternal chagrin.
Probably one of the few differences between these two free marketeers.
korova | Homepage | 17.05.08 – 10:56 pm | #
There are many many differences between Baroness Thatcher and the current Prime Minister. The major one being her leadership qualities. Love or loath her politics she knew how to lead. Whereas Brown simply does not have a clue.
Chuffer:
Remember those rough, tough, society-smashing anarchists – The Clash?
I gather one of them is now a chiropractor in the Hone Counties somewhere.
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Ah, that would be original drummer Terry Chimes, who was kicked out because (if I remember a contemporary interview) he “wasn’t political”. And was subsequently credited on the first album as ‘Tory Crimes’
Very anarchist, he was, I’m sure.
Billy Brag lives now in Dorset apparently. Pretty gritty there I am told.
Memo to Brown (and BBC), on moral values and freedom of expression:-
“At last an apology from foolish policemen” (by Nick Cohen)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/18/islam.religion
nulabour and moral in the same sentence…gotta be worth a laugh on a sunday morning.
Browns moral vision usually involves taking more money from me.
I feel like I am working harder and harder yet ever month having less left for myself and a bigger over draft. I cannot afford to run a car or have holidays. The message I get from new labour is they want to take more of my money to redistribute it to those nice chaves down the road who do not work but do have cars holidays and plasma screen TVs that would not even fit into my rented living room.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/the-feral-beast-830131.html
Andrew Gilligan, left, was named Journalist of the Year last month for a series of scoops that led to the resignation of Lee Jasper, aide to the former London mayor Ken Livingstone. But I can reveal that the information Gilligan had access to had previously been seen by the BBC. I’m told that his source within City Hall, a Conservative member of the London Assembly, initially offered the leaked emails to BBC London’s political editor, Tim Donovan, who rejected the story as being of no news value. It wasn’t until a year later when Gilligan saw the info and investigated further that the scandal was uncovered, leading to Jasper’s ignominious departure, and a triumph for the ‘Evening Standard’, Gilligan’s paper.
On moral values and freedom of expression, will Brown (and BBC) be supporting this arrested Dutch cartoonist?:-
“Dutch police arrests Cartoonist”
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3257
“There are many many differences between Baroness Thatcher and the current Prime Minister.”
Thatcher had a bigger pair of balls than Gordon Brown.
“Dutch police arrests Cartoonist”
Are yes George — that’s the parallel looniverse in which EUrabia now resides.
Terrorists roam free — while cartoonists are imprisoned.
In fact, Im surprised the word “cartoonist” is even being deployed– haven’t the BBC and the MSM managed to find a euphemism for a word that would indicate artistic freedom, free speech and mockery.
You know how these concepts are so offensive to Mohammedans and their religion.
Good comment on the BNP’s website (cough, splutter – yes, I visit it!) to the effect:
“Now that we know Enoch was right, should we consider whether Guy Fawkes was right? If so, whom do we put on top of the bonfire?”
The contributor was referring to the money-grabbing, expense-shredding activities of those who rule us, much of which is NOT reported on the BBC’s (Blair’s expenses?)
There are just so many possibilities from within the BBC!
ADDENDUM
I would like to announce the VAN GOGH DAILY PRIZE…
Awarded to the best euphemism for a word Muslims will find offensive…
(e.g. militant for terrorist)
Today’s word is “cartoonist” …
DB:
http://www.independent.co.uk/new…ast- 830131.html
DB | 18.05.08 – 12:00 pm | #
I do note the ‘decision’ (by the political editor, rejecting the story of what seems to be a major scandal, on the grounds of having ‘no news value’) is referred to, rather coyly, as a ‘blunder’.
Hmmn.
Jack Bauer:
Yes, the European prospects for freedom of expression are scary indeed, and Brown, the BBC and most of the UK MSM will acquiese.
In 2009, the European Union will implement THE EUROPEAN ARREST WARRANT:
(A ‘Gates of Vienna’ extract on this)-
“The European Arrest Warrant requires that anyone who is charged by a member state under the listed group of offenses (which, as we have seen, could cover just about anything) may be arrested by the authorities of the issuing state within any other member state. The accused must then be transited for trial to the issuing state within ten days, without any interference, judicial or otherwise, by the executing state.
“Just imagine what would happen under these new rules if an Islam-friendly prosecutor in the Netherlands were to charge a Danish cartoonist instead of a Dutch one. What’s more, once Turkey is a member of the EU, ‘insulting the Turkish nation’ will be a crime punishable by Turkey within any member state.
“Considering the recently created EU death penalty for ‘rebellion’, one can see that the machinery necessary for totalitarian repression is now in place within the European superstate. A truly Orwellian system is fully operational and ready to be activated on January 1, 2009.
“1984 has finally arrived; it’s just a quarter-century late.”
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/05/slouching-towards-vienna.html#readfurther
I do note the ‘decision’ (by the political editor, rejecting the story of what seems to be a major scandal, on the grounds of having ‘no news value’) is referred to, rather coyly, as a ‘blunder’.
Hmmn.
Peter | Homepage | 18.05.08 – 12:27 pm
Yes, I noted that too. This was no blunder – quite clearly the BBC didn’t want to embarrass Ken Livingstone and Lee Jasper.
On an unrelated point, Will Hutton – EU-loving big statist ex-editor of the Observer – has given the third of the BBC’s lectures on public service broadcasting. The full transcript isn’t available yet but the Guardian has excerpts:
“Today’s ever more strident commercial values and pressures are undermining the private sector’s capacity to sustain an independent truth-seeking media even as the powerful are becoming ever more astute in hiding what they want to hide,” he said.
“I argue for a reassertion of Reith’s ideas – a new Reithianism. Put simply a public service broadcaster has to enlarge and enrich my life as a citizen by trying to establish the truth of matters across the range of its programmes – in drama and documentary as much as news and current affairs.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/may/16/bbc.television?gusrc=rss&feed=media
So more of the same then – dramas, documentaries and current affairs all pushing a we-know-best leftist worldview (“the truth”) to counter the lies of the evil free market.
GB is really an utter gobshite with the most appalling mannerisms ever seen in a leader.
From eating his own bogies in the HoC, getting locked in a lav having to be rescued by Phony Blair, having the Queen say “Where’s Gordon, is he lost again?” at a State function, tucking his trouser leg into his sock when walking in public.
This man is a humiliation for this country.
He writes books on courage and then has no balls to go to walk aorund in Crewe but is instead sent to Devon by his own party.
An utterly pathetic example of a man.
Brown: all world’s religions have “a consistent ethical core” (BBC report).
‘Independent on Sunday report:-
“Britain is focal point for terrorism, warns Europe’s police force”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/britain-is-focal-point-for-terrorism-warns-europes-police-force-830347.html
perhaps bogie eating was a green initiative.
I have thought that the BBC will only be prepared to “support” Brown and Nulabor -the political arm of their world view ,as long as they look able to win an election.Expect a swing towards Cameron soon.There is little or no evidence that he presents any real threat to the status quo and will help defuse the growing discontent with the unholy alliance of neo marxists and corporate monopolies underlying the European and nulabor projects.
There is a counter revolution beginning.I am sure it begins to worry our masters.This blog and many others are evidence of it.Perhaps we should try to discern what type of people and what strands of thought make up this counter revolution.
initially offered the leaked emails to BBC London’s political editor, Tim Donovan, who rejected the story as being of no news value.
Compare that with Donovan’s treatment of the story after Gilligan had broken it a year later:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/articles/2008/03/11/tim_donovan_jasper_feature.shtml
It’s good to see a healthy and persistent minority here continuing to crow-bar the topic of BBC bias into their criticism of the Labour government.
“An utterly pathetic example of a man”
Please define ‘man’. In my book he is barely an amoeba.
Now this article does sound very pro-Brown. Probably because it’s mostly a straight report of what Gordon Brown said.
Yes, mostly a straight report. But of course it finds room for that piece of highly topical context on Thatcher’s speech: “Mrs Thatcher won few converts in Scotland when, at a time when industry was being hard hit, she quoted St Paul saying: “If a man will not work he shall not eat.” When she had finished, the then moderator presented her with Kirk reports on housing and poverty, interpreted by many as a polite rebuke.”
Of course, another journalistic choice would have been to include the SNP’s riposte: “If Margaret Thatcher delivered the sermon on the mound, this is the ‘whimper on the mound’.”
Or they could have mentioned the strains with Wendy Alexander, as The Sunday Mail did http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/newsfeed/2008/05/18/is-it-something-i-ve-said-gordon-78057-20421890/
A straight report of what Gordon Brown said (with a dig at Thatcher) was hardly the only possibility.
A straight report of what Gordon Brown said (with a dig at Thatcher) was hardly the only possibility
Ah but it was if you are the BBC to whom Thatcher will always be a hate figure, about which nothing positive can ever be written.
Turned on the TV last night to see what’s happening in Her Britannic Maj’s sad little Realm & caught the BBC News 24 report on Brown’s championing of the controversial hybrid embryo research. So controversial is it that the report was followed by a long interview with a scientist involved in embryo research to tell us how important successful legislation would be. Strange then, that there wasn’t actually time to interview anyone from the other side of the controversy. Never mind. The scientist himself was able to outline the contrary position in a totally unpartisan manner. Took him all of twenty seconds.
It’s not that I personally have any objection to embryo research. With a mother with advanced senile dementia the hope of a possible cure if not for her then other sufferers leads me to support it. But it seems a strange controversy that only requires one viewpoint
“Mrs Thatcher won few converts in Scotland when, at a time when industry was being hard hit, she quoted St Paul saying: “If a man will not work he shall not eat.” When she had finished, the then moderator presented her with Kirk reports on housing and poverty, interpreted by many as a polite rebuke.”
It’s a historic comparison of two similar events. If the comparison ends up slightly in favour of Brown, that’s the fault of history, not the BBC.
“Of course, another journalistic choice would have been to include the SNP’s riposte: “If Margaret Thatcher delivered the sermon on the mound, this is the ‘whimper on the mound’.””
It would have been nice to include it, yes, but as this was a comment following the speech, not a rebuke during, it is not comparable. I can also imagine the rage on B-BBC if only the far-left SNP had been allowed to comment.
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Alex: “It’s a historic comparison of two similar events.”
Yes, I got that, thanks. My point was the journalist chose to draw that comparison, rather than get reaction to the speech, for example. Or do both – which was equally feasible, and would have made a better story. The BBC chose to approach the story this way, with the result that it reflects well on Brown.
The journalist also chose to concentrate on the negative reaction Thatcher provoked. He could equally, and neutrally, simply have described Thatcher’s speech as where she “set out her political philosophy” – which I think is what the AP did.
The reason this reflects well on Brown and poorly on Thatcher is not history, but because of the angle chosen by the journalist who wrote it.
When she had finished, the then moderator presented her with Kirk reports on housing and poverty, interpreted by many as a polite rebuke
Well that’s a matter of opinion, the Moderator simply presented her with the two latest reports which just happened to be on housing and poverty, he did not riffle through all the Kirk reports to select these two, which might indeed have been a polite rebuke.
The BBC and other left wing commentators were outraged that she spoke to the Kirk as a Christian using her Christian principles to explain her political beliefs. She also made the point, in favour of wealth creation, that the good Samaritan was only able to do what he did because he had sufficient wealth to do so. That also went down badly with the socialists.
He … is instead sent to Devon by his own party.
An utterly pathetic example of a man.
Gordon BrownStuff | 18.05.08 – 1:30 pm
what’s that all about, then? is it the same as being sent to conventry?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7408464.stm
The angle on this is typical BBC. Rather than reporting the story as ‘campaign tactics criticised by Tories’, the headline of ‘Tory toff campaigning defended’ has the air of justification about it. This article is about why the tactic is okay, from the mouths of those running it, not all the people disgusted by it. And I should mention that even the most ardent Labourites in the media have voiced discomfort at this.
Radio 5 and a re-interpretation of class war
Mayo on radio 5 Lies this afternoon treated the nation to a literally marxist interpretation of the “Class War” going on in Crewe – with a lively panel debate featuring a participant telling me that hating “toffs” was an acceptable prejudice – and the BBC correspondent in the “North” topping it off with a plea for Labour voters to come out and vote as ‘this sort of campaign [the toffs in top hats] is highly effective in galvanizing the core vote’. This is all terribly ironic really as the Labour candidate is a prime example of hereditary privilege – as practiced by the leaders of the people
Can I suggest a B-BBC competition (not about BBC Bias)where we see who can name the most sitting MPs who have benefited from this policy of ‘succession to a seat’. Seems to me that the reform bill of 1832 was supposed to do away with pocket and rotten boroughs! perhaps the least the BBC class warriors who fought ‘fatcher could do would be to tell us about it
not likely to appear on the bbc anytime soon.
thanks to many many parents paying £9000 p.a the labour “toff” was able to get a free place at manchester grammar.
so he benefited from the headmaster building up a £10M bursary fund.
the angle on this story, as stated by david is the traditional al beeb style “report the backlash” rather than the original story itself.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=566972&in_page_id=1770