I was wondering if you have a special moment that embodies BBC bias? I have three that I wanted to share. The first was the absolutely depraved Question Time programme that followed the 9/11 slaughter. I’ll never forget the baying of that anti-American rabble in the audience even as the dead lay burning in the mangled debris of the twin towers. As most of us remained stunned as to what had happened the BBC’s biased audience showed its true colours. Then I recall the BBC’s coverage of the 1998 referendum on the Good Friday Agreement here in Northern Ireland and the broad smiles and backslapping from the news reporters when it became clear that the establishment side had won the day. All notion of impartiality was discarded on that infamous day. Finally, I recall Barbara Plett’s words as she recalled her impressions of Yasser Arafat”When the helicopter carrying the frail old man rose above his ruined compound, I started to cry.” Quite – weeping over the imminent demise of an aids-raddled mass murderer, the BBC incarnate. So, what were your defining moments?
WORST BBC MOMENT?
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Cameron – Did you watch ‘The Power of Nightmares’? The argument was not that it (al-Qaeda) does not exist at all, it was that it does not exist in the form that the politician’s would have us believe.
Korova
Yes i did – the commentator explicitly states that “al qaeda is a sham,and invention by western politicions to frighten us into thinking that a vast army of islamic terrorists is out to get us”
madrid? 7/7? 9/11? beslan? India? Bali?
Dont panic im not islamic?
Also this little chestnut from the power of nightmares
“the neocons and saeed qutub inspired bin laden were merley ideologically opposing mindsets”
Just 2 political parties having a bit of a barney eh?
Oh and the complete dismissal in the wests involvement in bringing down the berlin wall – it was all going to happen anyway?
Have you for instance seen the videos where bin laden and his mate bless the 911 suicide murderers? Where he admits to helping plan the 911 atrocity?
Are we all just chicken lickens though,eating government propaganda>??
Perhaps the government do all these terrorists attacks and the muslims are the persecuted ones?
Do you work for the beeb mate?
The power of nightmares is the ultimate in self hating left wing anti american BOLLOCKS!
Dont forget the bin laden training camp videos from the power of nightmares also:-
“these fighters are not actually with bin laden,they were merley hired for the day”
How the fuck did he know that?LOL
Cameron | 01.06.08 – 2:56 pm |
“these fighters are not actually with bin laden,they were merley hired for the day”
Hmm so who were they fighting for if not Bin Lid then?
The Cattle Prod of Destiny:
Cameron | 01.06.08 – 2:56 pm |
“these fighters are not actually with bin laden,they were merely hired for the day”
He’s right!
I just looked up Jihad Fighters in my Kabul edition of the Yellow Pages.
It lists dozens of firms offering their services.
This one seems the best…
JIHADISTS ‘R’ US —Beheadin’ at its Best
Serious -have you guys watched this pile of crap? it actually won awards!
Though one thing that did seem factual was rummy and his tora bora underground bunkers where the jihadists lived for months and had pc networks and electricity etc etc…where are they?
Strange but the biggest piece of evidence provided in the documentary is the “dirty bomb”,the commentator pours scorn on the BBC REPORT about the dangers of the dirty bomb – how sweet ha ha
Worst moment? BBC [then] Economics editor Evan Davis when he welcomed G Brown’s £5bn/yr tax-grab from pensions because… ‘It will encourage people to save more for their old age’.
Staggering.
Or his 3-part radio 4 series on the housing shortage. Not once did he mention immigration.
Do you work for the beeb mate?
The power of nightmares is the ultimate in self hating left wing anti american BOLLOCKS!
Cameron | 01.06.08 – 2:54 pm | #
And never forget folks – Peter Horrocks ths guy who produced it, defended it at the Edinburgh Festival and got a BAFTA for it from his fellow luvvies, is still Head of Newsroom – supremo of all BBC news content.
As I once said to the late unlamented JR here – why would you put a Michael Moore wannabe in charge of news or current affairs if you had any interest at all in impartiality?
ALSO:-
ANDY MARR
“i can think of far worse speakeras of the house”
And didnt name them…….
Korova, what age are you? I’m asking because it’s relevant: you say that you have detailed memories of the Scargillite miners’ strike. FYI, I’m 47.
korova
you say you have detailed memories – did you live in a mining town in south yorkshire during the strike? Did your father and all your friends fathers strike?
I did,and all my friends did -my observations are that everyone was behind the strike – hence why it lasted so long. Not BBC bias for once – just factual reporting. Its difficult to smear the police though – orgreave perhaps – but they were only doing a job.
The recent BBC drama “White Girl” deserves a mention in any worst moment list. My blood pressure is touching critical levels just thinking about that sickening piece of propaganda.
was wondwering if anyone had a link for the infamous QT featuring Phil lader – ive only seen snippets -screeching burkha wearing loons etc.
anybody?
This news is of global significance:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/2053842/Scientists-sign-petition-denying-man-made-global-warming.html
Why is the BBC not shouting this from the rooftops?
Cameron – Did you watch ‘The Power of Nightmares’? The argument was not that it (al-Qaeda) does not exist at all, it was that it does not exist in the form that the politician’s would have us believe.
Korova
On this point I agree with you, which is a first, but please note the following comments. Because I fail to see WHY someone with your views supports the BBC, of all the vile dishonest things in the known universe.
The BBC has gone very quiet on the matter since the broadcast, on the central points of the documentary.
The BBC always puts the blame on The current American administration, but gives all Democrat involvement a clear pass, as both Clinton’s are clearly the BBC’s golden couple. Even though plans for 9/11 must have been taking place before and very much during Bill Clinton’s time in office.
The BBC never gives a clue as to the very very much possible BRITISH establishment connections to the events of 9/11. Very dishonestly IMO concentrating on those nasty so called Neo-con republicans from the other side of the Atlantic. Which by the way are mainly ex Democrats, or quite frankly could not give a flying-f..k which political parties banner they hide behind.
The BBC never bothered then or bothers now to go into any details as to what exactly the motivations of these so called Neo-cons where and still are. IMO they have not even attempted to scratch the surface.
The BBC never comments on things like The New World Order, however many times Gordon Brown propagates the concept to members of The CBI.
The BBC never even uses The word FREEMASON EVER under any circumstances. Never mind mentioned even in passing that Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, George Bush, and Bill Clinton, and just about every top BBC honcho and virtually every male member of The BBC’s board of governors, are all high or very high ranking members of said organization.
The BBC never talks about the existence of groups such as The Bilderburgers, The CFR, The Council of Rome, or The RIFA, never mind what they are, exist for, or who exactly is behind and financing them, or their long past record on, shall we say ‘influencing’, world events.
So it seems the BBC is very obviously IMO keeping in the Dark almost infinitely more then it is ‘illuminating’, so to speak.
Your comments please.
neil_g: [Tennant] “was told his relatives were from ireland. he was excited and happy most likely imagining brave celtic warriors, but looked like he had swallowed piss when he discovered they were all prodestants in the orange order!”
I’m not sure why he was so surprised. Wasn’t his dad the minister of Paisley Abbey or something?
An oldie but a goodie would have to be Peter Snow’s comment, during the Falklands War, on some Naval communique or other, “…if the British are to be believed…”
An even worse comment during the Falklands war was along the lines of: “the Argy shells are not all exploding because they are not setting their fuses properly”
Atlas shrugged | 01.06.08 – 11:52 pm |
Your comments please.
You’ve got to be kidding! Freemason conspiracies, illuminati, Bilderburgers -Why not the Elders of Zion?
If who don’t want to be taken as a crank please use icons when you are being ridiculous.
🙂 😉 🙁 😆 :o( 8) ❓ :+: :-:
I gritted my teeth and sat through the three parts of Power of Nightmares. The message of that particular con job is clear from the title. That is, there is no need to fear Islam since there is no coordinated threat from Islamic terrrorism. It was an extraordinary attempt to lull us to sleep on this issue and as such should be up there at the top of the BBC’s worst moments.
Atlas, you really need to shrug off these weird fantasies of yours:
The BBC never gives a clue as to the very very much possible BRITISH establishment connections to the events of 9/11
9/11 was conceived, planned and executed by the Islamic terrorist East with the immediate aim of terrorising and weakening the West through the mass slaughter of innocents and the long term aim of the ascendancy of Islam over the entire planet. End of story.
Your comments please.
Atlas shrugged | 01.06.08 – 11:52 pm |
Men in white coats?
I have given up reading those shape-shifting lizard tales from Atlas. It’s strictly scrolling territory.
“…if the British are to be believed…”
was during the early days of irag war 2.
atlas
methinks perhaps you should stop reading alex jones’ drivel – there is no “new world order” as in bohemian grove etc etc shape shifting lizards [a euphemism for jews by the way,but icke wont say it].
911 was not an “inside job” by the white right – it was an inside job by 19 nutters, with OBL’S blessing and KSM’S orchestration – they have all admitted this – OBL himself on video now- 4 times – what does it take to convince the conspiracy nuts it really was the islamic terrorists?
Oh and building 7 – that was on fire and it collapsed.
2 planes hit the wtc,they collapse =inside job by homosexual right wing politicions from 322 skull n bones? pah
Maybe not THE worst moment ever, but one which springs immediately to mind for me is the last years Great Islamic Teddy-Bear War in the Sudan.
I’ll never forget the scene after the announcement was made that Gillian Gibbon was soon to be released and allowed to return home. Adam Mynott was at the scene where a furious protest was under way, people were waving banners saying that anyone who insults Islam must die, lots of shouting, the usual kind of thing really. Strangely this mass hate-fest was described by Adam as being
“good natured”.
Anyone else heard the BBC going on about ‘their’ opinion poll saying how well the Police are doing and that crime isn’t a problem?
Well tune into Radio 5 and hear the vile Victoria Derbyshire babbling on about how great the Police are (all thanks to Nu Labour of course)
But hang on a minute.
Only last week the Daily Mail had a story about how the white middle classes have lost faith in the Police. This went totally unreported by the BBC.
Then this is a single opinion poll. Since the Tories have been ahead in the Polls, the BBC keep telling us that you can’t trust the results of a single poll. Well we’ve had a load putting the Tories ahead, yet still the BBC tell us that the Polls can change.
However, when the BBC did THIS poll, no mention of the fact it is only one poll.
The BBC promoting Nu Labour lies?
I think so
Talking about BBC lies brings me to the occasion at the end of last year when the BBC interviewed the Minister of Economics of Lebanon, during the early stages of the Israeli incursion and bombing.
The person interviewed had a terrible accent and could not speak presentable English – very different from the Minister and his senior aides who I had only weeks before met in Beirut, and who spoke with either American or English accents.
Only last week the Daily Mail had a story about how the white middle classes have lost faith in the Police. This went totally unreported by the BBC.
No it didn’t, you just didn’t hear it. See the difference?
Dave_W
“good natured”
ha ha ha that made me laugh out loud – very very very funny.
No one seems to have mentioned that love in festival
LEFTIES
what bowlox that was! Anyone?
joel: You really are a prat. So where was the endless coverage on the BBC of the Daily mail story?
And can you link me to the radio 5 phone in on the Mail story?
I think I experienced my worst BBC moment was when I was in the Middle East.
The putsch against Gorbachev (c. 1991?) was in full swing and I heard the
news from many different sources. Abu Dhabi’s hotels had satellite TV and we
watched the news from Arabic English news channels, American channels,
Australian channels and of course the BBC. Each station outside of the BBC
described the plotters variously as “die-hard communists”, “the far Left”,
“old Soviet faction” etc etc….each commentator seemingly having his or her
individual licence. The BBC however, regardless of which reporter or
newscaster spoke on the issue, only had one label for these people; “Right
Wing Conservatives”. When the other channels read out quotes from the key
Russian players in this drama, they did so verbatim. Where the quote
described the plotters as part of the far left, the BBC summarised the quote
rather than having to read out the label.
At this time they were furiously trying to evict the Tories from Downing
Street and they were only months away from that disastrous 1992 election
which left many BBC staff in tears. I was only 27, but my old man had always
told me never to believe anything the BBC said. This was the first time I
saw irrefutable proof of their mendacity.
Dave W: Yes I’m glad you mentioned that one.
When the first protests started demanding Gillian Gibbons be executed for allowing a stuffed toy to be called Mohammad.
The BBC were reporting that the demonstration had only a small number of people (I think the BBC report said something like 200). The beeboid of course wasn’t at the demonstration but in a TV studio (as he appeared on the BBC 1pm news)and was claiming that the demonstration was good natured (no mention of the swords, guns or banner demanding she be beheaded)
But on Sky News they were speaking to a journalist live who was in the demonstration who said (unlike the beeboid report) that the protest was several thousand and not only were they calling for her to be beheaded, the group was very anti westerners.
None of that got reported by the BBC, until later in the day when it was clear the BBC report was totally out of step with everyone else.
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2007/12/following-up-on-discussion-here-at.html
Any Archers plotline. The current one with the vicar marrying the Indian lawyer is pushing the envelope – xenophobia is of course the default position of Christians, folks – but if there’s been one in which the menfolk haven’t been portrated as stupid incompetents or else adulterers I’d be interested in hearing of it.
The current one with the vicar marrying the Indian lawyer is pushing the envelope
Hindu, Muslim or Sikh?
Dunno. She speaks with a dead posh accent, though, to distinguish her from the rubes who are Christian.
I know in the great scheme of things The Archers doesn’t matter, but the right-on way it presents issues – all the gays are saintly – just shows how the Beeboids can’t leave any programme, no matter how insif=gnificant, free of its pervasive leftistry. And that is important.
A Today programme interview several years ago in which Sir Andrew Green of Migration Watch was barely allowed to finish a sentence. That was the last time I ever listened to or watched anything broadcast by the BBC.
Sorry, “insignificant”
Phil:
Dunno. She speaks with a dead posh accent, though, to distinguish her from the rubes who are Christian.
I only ask because in the REAL world, depending on HER religion, she’s more likely to get objections from HER family than any white Christian.
But, of course, the BBC cannot bring itself to show real religious intolerance circa 2008, so it has to manufacture it circa 1908.
Yes, the “honour killing” (ie murder) question is something that they haven’t quite got round to on The Archers yet. I imagine some people might object to having a daughter marry a Christian vicar.
Though what’s the betting there’ll be a couple of Archers cousins have an affair before too long?
I think the character of Usha Gupta is meant to be Hindu.
I lost patience with the Archers a few years back when they had a gay couple running a rival pub to the Bull. Sid the Bull’s landlord was overcome with homophobia at the thought of these two in the village. It was just a pathetic caricature. The kicker was that this was the time of the massive Countryside Alliance march in London, but the only thing being discussed in Ambridge was that year’s Gay Pride march, or “Pride” as they kept referring to it. I’m sure the fact that the editor is a townie lesbian had nothing to do with any of this, but I’ve just had no time for the programme ever since.
but the only thing being discussed in Ambridge was that year’s Gay Pride march, or “Pride”
Now THAT is funny… a gay pride march in Ambridge???? Seriously?
What was the rival pub called: The Queen George?
The post-9/11 Question Time.
They let the cat out of the bag with that one, and have never really even bothered trying to shove it back in.
Jack:
I have forgotten the name of Ambridge’s gay run pub. The point is the Gay Pride march was in London, and that was the only march being discussed in Ambridge at the time, because the gay landlord and his partner were making a big thing about going on the “Pride March”. This was at the exact time that everyone in the real countryside would have been talking about the Countryside Alliance march, which put about 300,000 on the streets of London. Eventually the Beeb got so many complaints they had to put a half-hearted mention of it in the Archers, but up until then Gay Pride had been the order of the day in Ambridge. As I said, the editrix is a lesbian, but I’m sure that made no difference to her handling of this bizarre and unbelievable plotline.
Rob — okay, get it now.
Sometimes it’s the news that the Beeb doesn’t carry that indicates bias:
http://www.reuters.com/article/middleeastCrisis/idUSL01687040
or maybe this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/frontline/2062440/Afghanistan%27s-Taliban-insurgents-%27on-brink-of-defeat%27.html
Of course neither story fits the Beeboids’ “narrative”. Wonder what sort of prominence they’ll get?
Phil, you can hardly say the Telegraph is unbiased can you (and I read it each morning)?
I don’t have to pay for the Telegraph if I don’t want, mso it can publish what it wants. I do however have to pay the tellytax.
Gulf War 2. I slavishly watched the BBC news and current affairs reporting and was left with a “uh oh this isn’t going well” feeling…I was worried that the Americas might resort to nukes because of the “stalwart” Iraqi resistance…and that it really would explode into a regional conflict
(Yes was was much younger and very naive)
…imagine my surprise when I then watched reports from Saddams bedroom and American tanks racing around Baghdad (how did they get there?).
The big kahuna of bias. From then on I never believe anything from Al-BBC
Cameron said:
“…if the British are to be believed…”
was during the early days of irag war 2.
It may have been, but the first use of the phrase was indeed, as Miv Tucker says, during the Falklands War (actually: “If we believe the British…”). See 5th paragraph here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/newswatch/history/noflash/html/1980s.stm
An even worse comment during the Falklands war was along the lines of: “the Argy shells are not all exploding because they are not setting their fuses properly”
Indeed, this was appalling. Argentine Skyhawks were taking very heavy losses in attempting to deliver iron bombs which were hitting our ships and • thankfully – not exploding. The prats at the BBC broadcast that the Argentines had the fusing wrong • and subsequently heavy casualties ensued on two British troopships (Sir Galahad and Sir Tristram). It was not so much bias as an almost moronic level of irresponsibility, but this was probably the defining moment at which the Forces in general developed an unmitigated contempt for the BBC.