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BBC Radio Times view of the movie tonight on Channel 4 “Shadow of the Moon” – a documentary on the Moon landings
Opposition to such massive expenditure on what was to some less a scientific exercise than a piece of Cold War political theatre is mostly glossed over.
Why do the left consider that they should dictate how the taxes of other nations are spent?
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Because they have the mentality of a 12-year old: they genuinely believe that nobody has ever been as clever as they are, and that the universe revolves around their petty concerns.
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All that’s left on the moon is some scrap metal and plastic.
The money spent is still on planet Earth. It paid wages and bought the technological spin-offs, innovations and expertise that are still on planet Earth.
The sheer bravery and endeavour of the flight crews and the professionalism and the ‘failure is not an option’ attitude of the mission control should be an inspiration to all mankind.
Only a churlish tosser would denigrate one of the greatest achievments in history.
The Right Stuff.
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It’s on issues like mass immigration and citizenship that the BBC political bias shines through.
The BBC’s Imogen Foulkes, portrays the question of Switzerland’s popular vote on citizenship through the eyes of two Turkish immigrants and wannabe Swiss citizens, in wonderful, BBC multicultural partiality.
The BBC reporter appears to have trouble understanding how seriously the Swiss take the granting of citizenship, and how restrictive are their rules. (A pity mainstream UK political parties don’t follow the Swiss example):-
“Switzerland already has some of the toughest naturalisation laws in the world.
“Candidates for citizenship must have lived in the country for at least 12 years – they must prove that they can speak the language, and that they understand Swiss laws and culture.
“What is more, being born in Switzerland does not bring an automatic right to citizenship.
“In Switzerland, people wanting to be Swiss must apply through their local community. In many towns and villages, the final hurdle to citizenship is often the approval of local residents at a town hall meeting, or, in the past, by secret ballot.”
‘Swiss hold crunch citizenship vote’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7427865.stm
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Quite so, Neomancunion.
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Agreed. The left continually attack the US spending on the Space Programme. Lets get some numbers in shall we?
NASA gets about $15 billion a year (about £7.5 billion).
The BBC gets £3.5 billion.
Hang on a second NASA costs the US twice what the BBC costs us, but just look at the feeback the US economy gets for that $15 billion.
What do we get for out $7 billion spent (or pissed away) on the BBC?
A bunch of camp left wing losers most of whom don’t deserve what they get paid (even the BBC trust admit that)
Just think of the huge boost Science and engineering the US gets from having NASA and it only costs them a tiny amount compared to other spending.
The amount we piss away on the BBC is massive say compared to our defence budget.
Give me a mini British NASA over the BBC any day of the week.
The US defence budget is around $450 billion
The UK defence budget is around £25 billion.
Scrap the BBC and give us a British NASA.
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BBC revel in people mocking Boris Johnson’s first policy as mayor:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7429638.stm
Never mind that over a million people voted for him, with his pledge to clean up the tube and get rid of the drunks being part of it. The BBC send a reporter to interview 2,000 people with nothing better to do and who are just making everyone else uncomfortable, purely because it slaps Johnson in the face.
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I didn’t think the article as a whole was knocking Johnson’s policy, though. And the guy who was interviewed in the video clip was against alcohol on trains.
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Unless there’s been a stealth edit, of course, and I’m looking at a different article to the one you saw – actually the “last updated” time is after your comment.
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Peter Hitchens’ articles today are critical of BBC.
His first one, under the title:
‘Why does it take Bishop Nazir Ali to tell us how it really is?’
has this extract:-
“any expression of national pride is viewed with suspicion by the state, by the education system and above all by the BBC.
“It was not always so. ”
Hitchens’ 2nd article is a critique of BBC production of ‘Whitehouse’ last week.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/mailonsunday/article-1023329/Why-does-Bishop-Nazir-Ali-tell-really-is.html
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More hypocrisy from BBC favourite Marcus Brigstocke:
‘Rupert Murdoch has turned Britain into a nation of xenophobes,’ ranted comedian Marcus Brigstocke at last week’s Hay-on-Wye festival, before spotting BskyB chief exec Jeremy Darroch sitting in the front row, surrounded by a posse of fellow Murdoch employees. Sky is now one of the festival’s sponsors, of course, and Brigstocke quickly changed tack to spare his, and Darrock’s, blushes. But if Brigstocke despises Murdoch so much, remarks one company insider, why was he spotted at the Sky party the following evening guzzling huge quantities of free champagne?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jun/01/pressandpublishing.television1
He was probably there to pick up his cheque after appearing on the evil Mr Murdoch’s Sky Arts channel.
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Another reason to end UK licence-payers’ subsidy for BBC finance of, and screening of ‘Eurovision’:
“Euyrovision result ‘racist’ says Terry Wogan”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2058833/Eurovision-song-contest-Terry-Wogan-blames-Eastern-European-racism.html
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According to the BBC convicted terrorist murderers are really “political prisoners”!
Who are the Mid-East prisoners?
Senior figures from the various Palestinian factions, such as Fatah’s Marwan Barghouti, wield considerable influence from their cells on rank and file members on the street. The release of what Palestinians term “political prisoners” is a key demand of ordinary Palestinians and of their leaders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwan_Barghouti#Trial
He was convicted on May 20, 2004 of five counts of murder. He was acquitted of 21 counts of murder in 33 other attacks. On June 6, 2004, he was sentenced to five life sentences for the five murders and forty years imprisonment for the attempted murder.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/barghoutimurder.html
A Tel Aviv judge convicted former Fatah-Tanzim militia commander Marwan Barghouti, 43, on May 20, 2004, of murder for his involvement three terrorist attacks in Israel that killed five people. He was acquitted for 33 other murders due to lack of evidence of his direct involvement in those crimes.
Barghouti was also convicted of a charge of attempted murder, membership in a terror organization and conspiring to commit a crime. The prosecution was seeking to sentence him to five consecutive life terms. The court said in its verdict that “Barghouti was responsible for providing the field units with money and arms….” The judges said that the attacks were sometimes “based on instructions” from Yasser Arafat.
The court found Barghouti responsible for a June 2001 attack in Maale Adumim, in which a Greek monk was murdered, a January 2002 terror attack on a gas station in Givat Zeev, a March 2002 attack at Tel Aviv’s Seafood Market restaurant, in which three people were murdered, and a car bomb attack in Jerusalem.
Marwan Barghouti refused a lawyer and represented himself since his trial began in August 2002. He claims that he refuses to recognize Israel’s jurisdiction over him.
Prior to the verdict’s announcement, security was beefed up in the courtroom as Barghouti’s supporters from the European parliament were expected to show up for the ruling. After leaving the courthouse, Arab Knesset member Mohammed Barakesh (Hadash/Communist Party) said, “Barghouti will be released, and those who imprisoned him will eventually have to hold negotiations with him because he is the leader of the Palestinian people.” Barghouti said, “I am a proud Palestinian leader and I oppose the Israeli occupation, it is my duty to do so. What do you want? For us to cooperate with the Israeli occupiers? We will never live doing that.”
David Saranga, a spokeman for Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said, “The five people who were killed in these attacks that he ordered will not return to life. The widows and orphans will not get their loved ones back. But at least justice was done.
On June 6, 2004, Barghouti was sentenced to five consecutive life terms and 40 years.
Marwan Barghouti’s Connection to Terror
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New open thread required I think.
According to the BBC, there has been a massive YES campaign on the referendum in Ireland.
No mention of any NO campaign at all, strange that considering the NO campaign is the only one making the news elsewhere – 1342 BBC News 24.
The report did show the overwhelming number of NO posters compared with YES ones, but made no mention of them, and had no soundbites from anyone on the NO side.
Odd.
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Still no mention on the BBC of the record low poll rating for Brown – tho ITV and Sky deemed it newsworthy.
Today we get the Beeb leading all bulletins with ‘Crackdown on drinking..’ guff from Labour. A classic piece of diversionary spin from the govt , no doubt to deflect from all the bad stories in the papers. Reheated meaningless announcments – and all faithfully regurgitated by their ever loyal BBC.
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bishop compares climtae change deniers to child abusers
shouldn’t “the truth” in the opening para be in quotation marks ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7430684.stm
presumably all those who deny “the truth” should be burned or put on a ducking stool…
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Beeboid with anti-monarchy views? Surely not!
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080602/tpl-uk-thailand-royalty-bbc-553508c.html
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I notice the BBC can find space for a headline announcing the asinine opinion of a C of E Bishop that ‘climate change deniers’ are akin to Josef Fritzl.
How strange that it could no room for the recently expressed views of the bishop next door, who just happens to be a qualified scientist, and who may not be too happy this morning being compared with the Austrian psychopath.
Nor, I seem to recall, could the Corporation find room to give similar prominence to the views of 31,000 ‘climate change deniers’ – the qualified scientists whose petition was recently presented.
So. Joel and Hillhunt, what’s your excuse for the BBC’s blatant bias on ‘Green’ issues?
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Beeboid tries some market economics – what’s a sheareholder?
B&B sees loss in wake of downturn
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7430460.stm
“Are you affected by the issues in this story? Are you a B&B stakeholder? Do you have a buy-to-let mortgage or have you been trying to fix a mortgage deal? Send us your comments.”
What’s a ‘stakeholder’? A meat eating shareholder? or maybe they mean someone with a B&B mortgage or savings account – but that would make them a ‘customer’ rather than a stakeholder?
Back to journo college beeboid….
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“stakeholder” – the Leftspeak word for someone claiming a share of something he doesn’t own.
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my 02.06.08 – 8:48 am posting is now out of date
bbc has stealth edited this article
It started ” People who deny the truth of climate change…”
once newsniffer is working properly i will post the link.
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gotcha !
http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/127684/diff/0/1
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“Euyrovision result ‘racist’ says Terry Wogan”
The drunk racist master hisself …
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Al Beeb is giving free advertising space to the global warming brigade
from this planet beeboid page to the link below
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7410305.stm
http://www.climatechangefestival.org.uk/
i find these ppl as repulsive as the bnp, or broadcasting house
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I know that the UK Labour PM, Gordon Brown, in post Princess Diana cloying mode, expressed his public sympathy to Chelsea’s John Terry last week; but I can’t find his expression of UK public sympathy for the victims of the bombing at the Danish Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan today, nor his condemnation of the Islamic Jihad perpetrators, nor his solidarity with Denmark. (Perhaps the BBC has a report I haven’t seen.)
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Can we have a new Open Thread, please?
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BBC Newsnight interviews [right now] Sandy Berger – will they mention his unauthorised removal of classified documents?
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BBC Newsnight interviews [right now] Sandy Berger – will they mention his unauthorised removal of classified documents?
Anonymous | 02.06.08 – 11:14 pm
Answer: no.
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Woke up this morning to the Today programme’s article on how the vote on 42 days detention was now looking to go the government’s way after Gordon Brown’s personal calls to the wavering MP’s.
Funny really as the only two MP’s they spoke to said it hadn’t changed their minds.
The same story leads the BBC news on the website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7432685.stm
‘Ministers sense terror vote shift
Confidence is growing among ministers that the threat of a government defeat over plans to extend detention without charge of terror suspects is receding.
Colleagues of Home Secretary Jacqui Smith believe concessions made by her to rebels have won some of them over.’
They go on to quote an opposite view towards the end of the piece. But the less than subtle thrust of the Radio and website seems to be all about convincing MP’s that voting against 42 days is now futile. At the same time putting in a good word for Gordon Brown as a strong leader who actually listens to the views of others.
Yeah right.
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Funnily enoough,
Sky News sees it a bit differently:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91211-1317881,00.html
While ITN doesn’t even have it as a story on the front page:
http://itn.co.uk/news/uk_news.html
I wonder why it’s so important to the BBC?
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Here’s how the Times and Telegraph reported a stabbing in one of London’s 3rd world immigrant communities:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4052469.ece
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2067424/Stalker-theory-in-London-schoolgirl's-stabbing.html
And then the detail devoid report from the state broadcaster, doesn’t mention the 3rd world immigrant community aspect to the story at all:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7432675.stm
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Daily Mail story: “Third World migrants behind our 2.3m population boom”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023512/Third-World-migrants-2-3m-population-boom.html
BBC: deafening silence.
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Meanwhile from the Telegraph: ” Islamic extremists should get therapy, Home Office tells local councils”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2068366/Islamic-extremists-should-get-therapy,-Home-Office-tells-local-councils.html
BBC: more deafening silence.
Bias? What bias?
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Today the BBC reports that Gordon is likely to have his way with the 42 day detention laws:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7432685.stm
What the Beeb didn’t point out, but which was pointed out by ITN news last night, is that Jaquie Smith has so watered down the proposals that they basically are no longer relevant. In order to apply for 42 day detention the government of the day would have to get two votes in favour in the House of Commons. Just as it would if it was proposing to start from scratch! So now Labour MPs are wondering why Gordon was so insistent on pushing through this daft law, since it really brings nothing worthwhile to the table. Obviously Brown’s ego has won through again – he must be seen to have a victory even if the victory is entirely hollow.
Full marks to ITN for pointing this out, no marks for the Beeb for dodging the issue in their everlasting attempt to bolster their sad hero.
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Of course the key word is typically missing from the headline of this BBC report on this issue:
“New fund to stop radicalisation”
What’s the BBC report about? Oh yes: ISLAM, that missing word.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7432051.stm
The BBC reports offers no criticism of the Labour Government’s spending plans to try to pacify those among the mass immigration of Muslims it has brought into the UK, and is bringing, and will bring (1 m. Turks next) to the UK.
Here are some critiques of Labour’s ‘policy’ towards Islamic jihadists, and putative jihadists, which the BBC will not provide:
“Islamic extremists should get therapy, Home Office tells local councils”
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/15179
And this extract from Michael Burleigh’s article:
“Many of the 1.6 million Muslims living in Britain, for example, still do not seem to fully appreciate the outrage that a finger-jabbing minority causes at home and abroad with each escalating demand for Islamist enclaves. Like perennial students, New Labour favours debate and dialogue, except when it involves matters of overriding concern to ordinary people, in which case Trevor Phillips is left to stick his head above the parapet. In dealing with the Muslim Council of Britain, the British Government unwittingly accepted as ‘community’ interlocutors men who, in line with salafi-jihadi propaganda, blamed Islamist terrorism primarily on British foreign policy, while failing to condemn unequivocally suicide bombing outside the UK. Virtually nothing is being done to stem the flow of Wahabist money (and the attendant intolerant ideology) not only into mosques but university ‘Islamic studies’ programmes, whose ideologically-slanted nature has been exposed in a report published last month by the Centre for Social Cohesion. The author, Anthony Glees, argues that pro-free speech arguments (and there is little free speech at all when it comes to Israel) are being used by the authorities to slip out of public responsibility towards taxpayers.
“But others with far greater power than academia are also complicit in this process. Did major banks think about the cultural implications of sharia-compliant finance, which is conspicuously absent in Egypt? This was allowed by Gordon Brown without triggering the public outrage that attended the Archbishop of Canterbury’s sly unclarities about sharia law. The police — in their capacity as the paramilitary wing of the Guardian — seem to be turning a blind eye to “honour crimes” and to the informal resort to sharia law, even when this involves manifestly criminal offences.”
http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/how-to-defeat-global-jihadists?page=0%2C5
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The BBC reports on IRAN, give lots of not particularly critical space to that country’s tyrants, Khamenei/Ahmadinejad, but show no interest in the plight of such dissidents in Iran as FOROUD FOULADVAND (a British citizen apparently) who is to be executed.
Why? A reflection of BBC foreign policy?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/021252.php
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Radio 4’s daily ‘must listen’ for every sponger and scrounger in the land (You And Yours) is currently airing a programme about taxation.
Want to take bets what percentage of listeners will be phoning in to say tax is a jolly good thing and let’s have more of it, please?
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