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Each day, the sun rises anew and each day the BBC spews out more tales of global warming alarmism. I am sure this must have an impact on views held by the general population – which is all part of the alarmists agenda in the first place, propaganda before science, eco-faith before fact-based certainty. Today the BBC breathlessly tells us that the Arctic sea ice is melting even faster than last year, despite a cold winter. An ice free Arctic by 2013 is posited as is the prospect of a global 22ft increase in sea level, should the Pole melt. I’m sorry but this is pure eco-wackery, it’s The Day after Tomorrow on the license fee . There is NO serious climate scientists suggesting a 22ft increase in global sea level and in fact the UN, not itself an independent player on this issue, suggests that sea levels on average will rise by 34.5cms during the next century. (In itself the sea level has risen by 29cms since 1850) Using apocalyptic imagery – such as a total Polar melt – plays well to the media and this is what this is all about. There is no mention of the thickening in the Antarctic sea ice though presumably that would not suit the BBC narrative. There is also no settled science on this issue, For example a study published in Geophysical Research Letters (Winsor, P., “Arctic sea ice thickness remained constant during the 1990s,” Volume 28: 1039-1041 (2001)) found the same to be true in the Arctic. The study concluded, “mean ice thickness has remained on a near-constant level around the North Pole from 1986-1997.” Moreover, the study noted data from six different submarine cruises under the Arctic sea ice showed little variability and a “slight increasing trend” in the 1990s. Since the current warming phase ended back in 1998, what would drive the loss in sea ice area that the BBC reports on since that date? Climate is a huge issue and there is room for many opinions. My problem with the BBC is that it only allows one as this new story shows and that is pure green tinged bias.
So now it’s increased to 22ft. Why not just round it up to 100?
Besides, anyone with O level physics knows that when floating ice melts, the water level remains unchanged. That takes Arctic ice out of the equation.
Very clever to choose a graph that looks at first glance like everything is going down the gurgler.
Then you look at the axes and realise that it shows ice melts every summer. Doh.
Iain, that was the first thing that occurred to me. However looking at the article, they are referring to the ice on Greenland being capable of raising sea levels by 22 feet, which I must accept to be true.
I’m not sure that the scientists being quoted are referring to the Greenland ice sheet, but probably only the Arctic sea ice. The article does not make it clear, possibly deliberately.
Quote:
“If what we think is going to happen does happen, then it’ll be within a decade anyway.”
This needs subtitles, please.
You are all heretics and are only to be spared burning at the stake because of the CO2 that would be produced by such an act.
Global Warming?
It’s the longest day on Saturday and
1. I’m still wearing a t-shirt under my shirt.
2. My maize crop is refusing to grow because the grounds’s too cold.
3. I was chatting to the local bee keeper, who is in despair because his bees aren’t producing any honey thanks to the low temperatures.
4. My children haven’t gone near the paddling pool in weeks.
Pah!
Ah yes, the melting arctic ice, please take a look at this
http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/cold-irony-arctic-sea-ice-traps-climate-tour-icebreaker/
Ironic, hubris ??
Its the longest day on Saturday? Fecken hell, that just means its downhill from here on in!
Mailman
Roland: Yes – I think they’re fudging it. They do refer to Greenland but the map shows floating Arctic ice.
Also note the obligatory cute animal picture.
Anyway, if Greenland melts we can all move there and live on McSealburgers – hmmmmmm!
“I’m still wearing a t-shirt under my shirt.”
Blimey, where do you live? Aberdeen?
It’s been nice for weeks here.
YE OLDE BBC NEWSFLASH
Ye BBC has just received into its possession secret government documents found abandoned on a seat on the Mail Coach from London to Dover, pertaining to possibly the end of the world.
“It will without doubt have come to your Lordship’s knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated.
(This) affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations.”
President of the Royal Society, London, to the Admiralty, 20th November, 1817
There is something extremely unpleasant at work here. The ‘Greens’ poll below the BNP in the UK and, for all the waffle of the three main parties, it is hard to find much support for eco-wackery outside the ranks of tofu munchers and yoghurt spinners.
And yet it appears an edict has gone out commanding every BBC news or current affairs programme, whether on radio or TV, to have at least one ‘Green’ item. The BBC simply will not shut up about it. As a consequence, watching or listening to the BBC is like being stuck in an old-fashioned railway carriage with a foaming evangelist who refuses to leave you in peace. After two miles all you want to do is hurl him out of the window.
The result of this ceaseless, hectoring propaganda is that when you ask a politician why she or he doesn’t seem interested in talking about anything else, or why they refuse to show some backbone in the face of the mounting tsunami of ‘Green’ lunacy emanating from Brussels, they look you in the eye and solemnly swear that ‘ people are really concerned about ‘Green’ issues’.
No they are not. There is a vague consensus that we are better for having clean seas and rivers, that our streets shouldn’t be ankle deep in filth and that some recycling might be a good idea.
But there is nothing to suggest that the levels of obsession pouring out the BBC and the political classes is much more than a burden being heaped on the average family to placate a popular obsessive delusion, spread like a contagious disease among people with nothing better to occupy their minds.
It’s a con-trick. And the BBC are up to their necks in it.
funny how Al Beeb switch between the arctic and the antarctic when its summer / winter at the opposite poles
they had footage as well of cutest polar bears youve everseen. awwwww
But the reporter, {what a} Dick Black is just pumping out global warming propaganda to keep himself in a job paid for by the telly tax
I notice the article also gets in yet aonther dig at George Bush (what will the BBC do once he’s gone?) about drilling in Alaska.
YET both Obama and McCain have clearly stated they won’t allow drilling in Alaska (ANWR)
Aren’t there any f**king science programmes for children in the UK? Doesn’t Blue Peter do little “how it works” segments anymore? What sort of ridiculous shite is this about the Arctic ice melting and sea levels rising 22 feet?
Before anybody answers, go into the kitchen and get a glass of water. Place a few ice cubes in it. Mark the water level on the glass and wait. Once the ice melts, look and see how far the water level has risen. Then think about this issue again.
Annon,
Spot on analogy! The BEEBOID propagandists flock to the Artic in summer to see melting then leg it down to the Antarctic for the southern summer for more melting. Lots of travel involved and lots of expenses to be hoovered up and all they have to do is log on to the odd ecowhacko website along the way and copy some semi political psuedo science and Bobs your uncle!
Science reporting by the BBC resembles the dark ages satanic trials? The Nu mark of Satan is being a denier(skeptic)!
The BBC seems to live in a fantasy world where scientific fact and plain logic can be wished away and replaced by a kind of childish la la land make believe!
As I write this the BBC are running ‘hardtalk’ telling us that migration from the third world is due to global warming! In reality the cuase is evil,cruel,despotic and corrupt third world governments who are making life in large parts of the third world impossibe?
Still, when did the BBC bother with that annoying thing called the truth?
If they trult believed in Global Warming as a problem rather than an excuse to justify their labour buddies raising/inventing taxes, they would close down themselves immediately.
End of BBC:
– one of the largest power users in the UK vanishes reducing CO2
– reducton in the number of foreigh jaunts by plane (1.5 beeboids per competitor at Olympics!), reducing CO2
– Extra £140 per household during these expensive times – votewinner.
– Several £Billion of assets to flog off to fill Brown holes in Government spending plans
So why is it not happening?
David,
The Nu socialists have banned real science as it does not fit with Nu political truths!
The Nu socialists dont deal in scientific logic they much prefer PC slogans and chants.
“There is something extremely unpleasant at work here. The ‘Greens’ poll below the BNP in the UK”
The extremely unleasant bit would be typified by the way that Marxists have started to infiltrate the environmental lobby groups. Fact is that “environmentalism” is the brand spanking new way of attacking the prevailing culture. It doesn’t matter if its true. It doesn’t matter if the left have anything better to replace it with. It only matters that they have a big new stick to beat the prevailing culture with.
Thing is, the big stick is likely to be used by the public to beat the BBC with when we have yet another cold wet summer and the economy is in the toilet courtesy of Brown. Beeboid cultural Marxists are far too dim to see that far ahead.
So why is it not happening?
Jeff Todd | 19.06.08 – 4:14 pm | #
Don’t forget there are 6 billion people on the planet all expelling CO2 when they breathe out.
We need to start reducing this immediately.
First… we need to impose a sedentary lifestyle. The more you exercise the more you breath in oxygen and the more you expel CO2.
Darfur and natural disasters. Let them die. Think of the CO2 reduction we can achieve by this carbon offset.
And so on. It’s the Soylent Green of the Carbon Dioxide offsets.
Al Gore is already setting up a firm to trade.
“As I write this the BBC are running ‘hardtalk’ telling us that migration from the third world is due to global warming! In reality the cause is evil,cruel,despotic and corrupt third world governments who are making life in large parts of the third world impossible?”
Don’t forget the FREE MONEY!
This UK Labour government:
“is firmly committed to increasing renewable energy use, as an integral part of our wider strategy to tackle climate change…”*
So, on this very questionable premise, the UK people are being further pressured into a unilaterally high carbon tax economy, supported by evangelical ‘Greens’ and their ilk.
The UK Labour government has:-
“played a key role in securing agreement among European Union Heads of Government in 2007 to a binding target of 20% of EU’s energy (electricity, heat and transport) to come from renewable sources by 2020, as set out in the Spring European Council conclusions. (Full details can be found on the European Commission: Spring European Council Conclusions on Tackling Climate Change webpage).”*
*
http://www.berr.gov.uk/energy/sources/renewables/strategy/page43356.html
The BBC in its report of a committee of MPs makes no critical assessment of the presumptions about climate change; and, for example, uncritically quotes, the Carbon Trust, without explaining that the Carbon Trust is that oxymoron ‘a government-funded independent company’:
“UK renewables policy ‘inadequate'”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7463427.stm
Ryan | 19.06.08 – 4:48 pm |
The extremely unleasant bit would be typified by the way that Marxists have started to infiltrate the environmental lobby groups.
You are about 20 years out of date there. The Green party stopped been ‘green’ with the introduction of the ‘socialist greens’ in 1988.
Never see a ‘Nuclear Power Nein Danke’ sticker? Soviet funded propaganda.
I’m quite happy for the BNP to stay off our screens BTW. Having said that a more thorough investigation of their philosophy would be fun. Cartoon villains are so passe don’t you think?
As for sea levels rising that only applies to land ice. As correctly stated sea ice makes little, not no, little difference. Land ice is a different kettle of fish. But as the last major survey only looked at around 38% of glaciers and only found 11% to be melting I wouldn’t worry about it just yet.
Oh and the UK will get colder under the current mythology as the melting ice switches off the Atlantic Conveyor.
Ah the joys of a mutable philosophy.
Don’t forget,every time you turn on your TV a polar bear cub dies screaming.
As many in the North of Britain have noticed,it is cold for June.Imagine what it will be like when our power stations start closing down under the Large Combustion Plant Directive.Nuclear will not be up and running,those we have are due for decommissioning.Wind farms are only some 30% efficient,in any case the target number to be constructed will not be reached,think Olympics.
So, if this cooling continues and the green lunatics force carbon rationing on us,prepare to be very cold.Of course rioting in the streets does tend to warm you up,providing you have enough food to keep moving.
Flying over a hundred people to Austria and Switzerland for 3 weeks to cover a tournament we aren’t even involved in is a great example of restricting carbon use, not to mention the army that the BBC will undoubtedly be sending to China for Olympics, and over for the US election .
H**o*rit*s
Beeboids have admitted on here that the BBC does not carry out any form of Carbon offsetting for its journalists.
The BBC believes it has a right to pollute the planet to bring us its great words of wisdom (what we refer to at utter bollocks) and that its the great unwashed non liberals that should be forced to give up their cars and flying (what’s wrong with two weeks in Skegness say the rich beeboids who fly off to Goa for some good drug taking time)
Of course many beeboids get BBC cars to take them to and from work, so they can smugly come on the BBC and say they don’t drive in London.
Chuffer:
‘Global Warming?
It’s the longest day on Saturday and…’
Are you not a day out? As this is a leap year we have had an extra day inserted does that not make today (Friday) the longest day.
another day, another climate change tale from Al Beeb
this time, climate change is causing snow to melt in the summer in Scotland
what a load of bollox
no polar bears in this pack of lies, they just be sun bathing in the artic
forgot to post the link to the above
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7464801.stm
“I’m quite happy for the BNP to stay off our screens BTW. Having said that a more thorough investigation of their philosophy would be fun. Cartoon villains are so passe don’t you think?”
Certainly, after all the BNP only talks about not liking “foreigners”, whereas the current government actually goes out of its way to find real foreigners it can shoot. Perhaps we don’t need to look to closely at the BNP after all – the real villains are right in front of us with the Labour Party pointing at the BNP at shouting “Look over there!” while swiftly bumping off 250,000 people and adding Dr David Kelly to the list to top it off nicely. Don’t be tempted to be sucked in by their Gramscian mis-direction ploy, NuLabour are the real danger.
David Vance asks:
Since the current warming phase ended back in 1998, what would drive the loss in sea ice area that the BBC reports on since that date?
Good question David.
But based on a false assumption.
Global average temperatures may have plateaued over the past decade. But not Arctic temperatures, which have continued to rise. Add to that warmer water melting/thinning ice from below – and there’s your answer.
Polaris,
Where did you find that data, from the church of AGW? Global average temperatures have fallen and fallen sharply over the last 8-9yrs! AWTs plateaued 10yrs ago then fell sharply.
Average Global ocean temperatures are falling NOT rising as the BBC tells us. Antartic/Arctic average temperatures are falling and winter lows are reaching record levels both North and South. The information you have is misleading because to show higher temperatures the authors have combined both summer and winter temperatures and added a positive value while working out the AVG when in reality the value weighting should have been negative!
Polaris | 20.06.08 – 6:19 pm |
How’s that glass of ice water experiment coming?
Global average temperatures may have plateaued over the past decade. But not Arctic temperature
Amazing. How does that work again?
Most people think it is up to the governments to stop the progress of climate change and global warming. In one hand they are correct but on the other hand it is up to ourselves to help the planet and our civilization. If we don’t do it singly then we will fail our future children and grandchildren who will have the unknown forced upon them. Governments and energy companies have started the ball rolling. We are seeing a large increase in renewable energy sources here in the UK. My local energy supplier has been taken over by a larger firm – SSE – who specialize in supplying cheap gas and electricity through hydro projects, cheaper cleaner and greener. If we all work as one we will be able to make a difference. The question is how much of a difference can we make.