ABUSING THE SICK.

The headline conveys the point the BBC wants to make. “Ill Palestinians asked to spy”. The item then repeats the claim made by the anti-Semitic group “Physicians for Human Rights” that bad Israeli security agents are putting pressure on some poor Palestinian medical patients to become informants. If you read the article it is laced with the usual venom the BBC seems to especially reserves for Israel. Do you think ANYONE at the BBC ever stops to query the endless stream of anti-Israeli propaganda it pumps out or is the hatred of the Jewish people so great that it just gets set aside?

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  1. H Green says:

    at the end of this report was a brief mention of palestinians fleeing into Israel from the fighting with Hamas.what the BBC didn’t say was that IDF forces rescued dozens of Fatah members who were fleeing Gaza City under
    heavy machine gun, sniper and mortar fire, according to Northern Gaza Brigade Commander
    Colonel Ron Ashrov . The BBC also omitted the news that 22 of the Palestinians who entered Israel were injured during the
    clashes. Five of them were taken to the Soroka Medical Center in Beersheba
    for treatment. One of the Palestinians was reportedly in serious condition,
    while the other two sustained moderate and light wounds.

    Ten more Palestinians were taken to the Barzilai Medical Center in Ashkelon;
    one of them was listed in serious condition, and the rest suffered moderate
    and light wounds.
    This flies in the face of the report about people being subject to interrogation before being admitted to Israeli hospitals for treatment but no mention of these humanitarian actions by the BBC.

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  2. simon says:

    Here’s the kind of report the BBC most certainly never files:

    “Young fire victim’s eyes may save Palestinian baby’s sight

    By Yuval Azoulay, Haaretz Correspondent

    The cornea of a Golan Heights girl who died in a fire last week may save the eyesight of a month-old Palestinian baby.

    The cornea was donated by the family of Eliya Ruyami, 11, who died following a late-night electrical fire in their Moshav Keshet home. Her 7-year-old brother was killed as well.

    Doctors at Schneider Children’s Medical Center in Petah Tikva will plant the cornea in the left eye of Nidal Salah, from the Israeli town of Jaljulya. ” ( http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1008116.html )

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  3. antony ewing says:

    Does the BBC never consider that the Israel state was just a crap piece of desert until the Jews transformed it?The Palestinian’s, and indeed ALL the nations in that area had never really bothered with it until the Jews worked and transformed the land. Then everyone wants it. I am non religious but respect hard work. The only reason that the BBC has a go at Israel is that it is supported by America. The BBC would never have a direct go at America as it is a major importer of BBC dvd’s and programmes. Hypocritical tossers.

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  4. H Green says:

    I should have said in my comment above, that I was referring to the Radio 4 Today programme report this morning , not the website report which does mention the treatment in Israeli hospitals. The BBC just doesn’t get irony does it?

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  5. Ed says:

    H Green- I think this report was actually intended to offset potential good publicity the Israelis got for saving those Fatah members. The BBC’s coverage is undoubtedly in thrall to a Palestinian perspective which denigrates every move Israel makes. The constant reinterpretation of Israeli actions into some overarching malign schema is so fascistic- shocking to see it coming from a British broadcaster.

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  6. Lemar says:

    I am waiting for the BBC to have some pro Israel anti Palestinian reports such as the daily anti Semitic ravings by Hamas in Gaza that everyone in the world knows about except the BBC

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  7. ady says:

    un-oh
    Here comes the ugga bugga tribe again…or is it the ooga boogas…dang, they all look the same to me.

    Here’s something BRITISH for you people to marvel at, not that you folk know much about those things.

    Spitfire celebrates 70 years
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7540305.stm

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  8. Tidblog says:

    Anti-Israeli BBC – surely you must be joking? When a beserk Palestinian goes on the rampage in Jerusalem with a bulldozer, it is rightly headline news on BBC TV and I would never dispute that it should be.

    However, the BBC News regularly and lamentably fails to report that this kind of event occurs almost daily in Palestinian territories, in the guise of “security operations”.

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  9. ady says:

    Although I will concede that the BBC does tend to avoid the real issue.

    Water.

    Around 40-50% of Israels water comes from the occupied territories, which basically means Israel can never leave the Palestinian areas.

    The last big fights in the shorter term, will be over access to the Litani in Southern Lebanon, like the last time.

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  10. Dr R says:

    To quote from the ever-excellent Melanie Phillips:

    So let’s get our head round this: Palestinians committed to the destruction of Israel fled from other Palestinians committed to the destruction of Israel into Israel, which is providing them with sanctuary and medical treatment, while the president of their putative state who bases his claim against Israel on its alleged refusal to admit Palestinian ‘refugees’ refused to allow actual Palestinian refugees fleeing Palestinian violence access to that same putative state, while Israel agonises over whether to grant them permanent asylum. Surreal, or what?

    And the Jew-hating BBC turns in into an anti-Israel story. Incredible!

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  11. Anonymous says:

    antony ewing | 04.08.08 – 10:50 am

    Does the BBC never consider that the Israel state was just a crap piece of desert until the Jews transformed it?

    No. The BBC have read this:

    PUBLIC opinion has been led by the Zionist propaganda machine to believe that Palestine was a neglected desolate land without a people in need of a people without a country and that developments and progress were the result of Zionist Initiative. As it will be proven below, this is not true.

    The Holy Land, since the Crusader genocide, has been renowned for its olive groves and olive oil industry; and long before Zionist immigration began in 1920, Palestine was known as a citrus exporting country, famous for the Jaffa Orange. It is unknown when the citrus industry was first developed in Palestine but records shows that in 1912 ؟1913, the Arabs had exported 1,608,570 cases of oranges to Europe.

    As regards the hill regions, the country is covered with olive orchards, vineyards and other deciduous fruit trees; while the lands in the South were used for the cultivation of grain, and those in the Jordan Valley for the production of vegetables and fruits. Every inch of fertile soil was used to full capacity; and more and more rocky patches were being turned into orchards and groves. In that regards, its worth quoting Ahad Ha’Am, a leading Eastern European Jewish essayist who visited Palestine in 1891 for three months, when he tried to open many Jewish people eyes:

    “We abroad are used to believe the Eretz Yisrael is now almost totally desolate, a desert that is not sowed ….. But in truth that is not the case. Throughout the country it is difficult to find fields that are not sowed. Only sand dunes and stony mountains …. are not cultivated.” (Righteous Victims, p. 42)

    Is it not ironic that Israel should today claim and take pride in the two principal agricultural industries, citrus and olives, started and developed over the centuries by the Arab victims of Israeli aggression?

    http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story664.html

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  12. Biodegradable says:

    … Zionist immigration began in 1920…

    Anonymous Coward | 04.08.08 – 12:46 pm

    Wrong, like everything else you’ve copied from that revisionist anti-Israel site.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism#History

    Even before 1897, which is generally seen as the year in which practical Zionism started, Jews immigrated to Palestine, the pre-Zionist Aliyah.

    Jewish immigration to Palestine started in earnest in 1882. The so-called First Aliyah saw the arrival of about 30,000 Jews over twenty years. Most immigrants came from Russia, where anti-semitism was rampant. They founded a number of agricultural settlements with financial support from Jewish philanthropists in Western Europe. The Second Aliyah started in 1904. Further Aliyahs followed between the two World Wars, fueled in the 1930s by Nazi persecution.

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  13. Edna says:

    “Does the BBC never consider that the Israel state was just a crap piece of desert until the Jews transformed it?

    No. The BBC have read this:….

    http://www.palestineremembered.com

    Yes. They probably have. Therein lies the problem.

    Reading and believing overtly biased anti-Israel websites is what they do.

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  14. Miv Tucker says:

    David,

    You obviously just don’t get it.

    Clearly, the Jews are illegally occupying that area of land co-terminous with the Zionist Entity.

    So, so what if they extend medical aid to Hamas, et al?

    There wouldn’t BE Hamas etc. but for the illegal Jewish occupation.

    This is like a burglar who beats you up in the course of robbing your home, stays just long enough to patch you up before legging it, and expects to be praised for his humanitarian gesture.

    I mean, come ON, David – how ELSE do you expect the BBC to view the situation?

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  15. ST says:

    If Israel is so bad why don’t people from Gaza go for treatment to Arab countries?

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  16. Anonymous says:

    ST | 04.08.08 – 3:05 pm

    If Israel is so bad why don’t people from Gaza go for treatment to Arab countries?

    ….cos Israel prevents them travelling to Arab countries, maybe?

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  17. Dr R says:

    Anonymous

    Typical Beeboid mind….

    I think you’ll find Gaza has a border with Egypt…

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  18. Sue says:

    Exactly Edna.

    “No. The BBC have read this:”

    I wasn’t sure whether Anonymous was pointing out the Beeb’s bias, or trying to demonstrate ours by using some pro-Pali propaganda.

    If, as it now appears, Anonymous represents the BBC and is admitting, even boasting, that the supposedly impartial BBC informs itself from revisionist anti-Israel websites such as the one he/she linked to, I would say that was a bit of a boob from a beeboid.

    Anonymous, and others with selective hearing and romantic feelings towards Arabs, at least be aware of your bias, even if you choose to stick with it.

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  19. Lurker in a Burqua says:

    New McCain ad slams the empty Obama

    http://www.order-order.com/2008/08/mccain-leads-obama-advertising-works.html

    ………I`m sure going to miss that Obama guy!

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  20. Anonymous says:

    Sue | 04.08.08 – 3:48 pm
    Biodegradable | 04.08.08 – 1:04 pm
    Edna | 04.08.08 – 1:25 pm

    Although you spit venom at me and the ‘revisionist’ pro-pally website, you say nothing to counter the facts.

    There is ample evidence that the Arabs were exporting oranges to Europe in large numbers for years before Jews arrived to make the desert bloom.

    And the observation that nearly all land that could be cultivated was culivated may have been reproduced on a pro-pally website, but it was originally made by a Jewish vistor in the 1890s.

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  21. John Bosworth says:

    Decoding the “Ill Palestinians asked to spy” story:

    An accusation is enough if the words “human rights group” can be attached to it. You don’t have to question the motives of the group. The BBC actually reporting the story gives it further credibility. After all, we trust the BBC, don’t we?

    Here’s an example: “A human rights group reports that Winnie the Pooh books have contributed greatly to anti-Arab sentiment in the Middle East. Speaking on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme, a spokesman for “Muslims For A Better World” said anti-Muslim bias is evident in 95% of British literature…”

    There you have it! The idea of “Winnie the Pooh vs the Jihad” is so colourful it will acquire a life of its own and become an urban myth.

    A note for BBC Newsmen: Don’t get excited now. I invented the Winnie the Pooh story, there is no such organisation as “Muslims For A Better World” and I made up the figure of 95%. But you’ll probably run with the story anyway because it fits the template (anti-British, pro Muslim) and who cares if its true or not. Keep up the good work.

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  22. Miv Tucker says:

    I think you guys are missing the point about Anonymous’s quote from http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Palestine-Remembered/Story664.html (above).

    If you stop to consider, what he (or she) is saying is that THAT’s what the BBC’ve read, and that THAT’s what’s informing them.

    Is irony now in as short a supply as everything else?

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  23. Miv Tucker says:

    I unreservedly withdraw the above comment – I wrote it before I’d spotted Anonymous’s reply to Sue.

    Sorry.

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  24. Anonymous says:

    Miv Tucker | 04.08.08 – 4:18 pm

    Actually you were right first time.

    My response to Sue etc was provoked by the poor quality of logic in their posts, combined with my own pique at being misunderstood.

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  25. Miv Tucker says:

    Shoulda had more faith in my own judgement!

    Cheers

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  26. Sue says:

    John Bosworth | 04.08.08 – 4:15 pm
    No such organisation as “Muslims For A Better World”

    Maybe not, but “Working for the Betterment of humankind through imposing of Sharia law on the Infidels”
    http://islamoscope.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/offended-muslim-syndrome-satire/ (scroll down a bit) is a near parallel – I’m enlarging this as a lovely christmas card as I especially like the picture of the bearded gent with the glint in his eye.

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  27. backwoodsman says:

    re John Boswoth : Spot on. God, there is nothing so predictable as a beeboid ‘position’

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  28. Sue says:

    Anonymous,
    At first I thought you were pointing out the Beeb’s bias, then your other posts indicated the opposite. I already said that.

    Your irony is impenetrable. Had us all fooled. But, without irony, out with it, what are you trying to say?

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  29. Biodegradable says:

    Anonymous Coward:
    Sue | 04.08.08 – 3:48 pm
    Biodegradable | 04.08.08 – 1:04 pm
    Edna | 04.08.08 – 1:25 pm

    Although you spit venom at me and the ‘revisionist’ pro-pally website, you say nothing to counter the facts.

    I spat no venom at you or anybody else, and I provided a link to Wikipedia’s version of the history of Zionism. It is a well known, documented fact, that Zionist immigration to what is now Israel began long before 1920, the date you give as a “fact”.

    There is ample evidence that the Arabs were exporting oranges to Europe in large numbers for years before Jews arrived to make the desert bloom.

    Provide that evidence please, and I mean documented evidence, not propaganda from a web site that talks about “nakba”, “ethnic cleaning” and “massacres” of Arabs.

    Here’s a start:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_orange
    (Note that the Temple Society in Sarona was a Christian settlement)
    The first fruits to carry the “Jaffa orange” brand were from an agricultural colony of the Temple Society in Sarona (commonly pronounced Sharona, est. 1871).

    According to the Hope Simpson Royal Commission Report of 1930,

    “The cultivation of the orange, introduced by the Arabs before the commencement of Jewish settlement, has developed to a very great extent in consequence of that settlement. There is no doubt that the pitch of perfection to which the technique of plantation and cultivation of the orange and grape-fruit have been brought in Palestine is due to the scientific methods of the Jewish agriculturist.”[2]

    This variety of orange was first brought to the United States by H. S. Stanford during the 1880s. Stanford brought the oranges to Florida, where they are still grown today.

    By 1939, the combined Jewish and Arab orange orchards in Palestine totaled 75,000 acres, employing over 100,000 workers, and their produce was a primary export of the economy.

    And the observation that nearly all land that could be cultivated was culivated may have been reproduced on a pro-pally website, but it was originally made by a Jewish vistor in the 1890s.
    Anonymous Coward | 04.08.08 – 4:12 pm

    You don’t expect me to believe a Jew do you!?

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  30. Anonymous says:

    Sue | 04.08.08 – 4:44 pm

    Never mind. Move on.

    Re: your islamoscope site, what caught my eye was “concerned Muslims against rubber ducks”.

    Reminded me of all the dog stuff UK muslims go on about: cab drivers refusing man with guidedog, police dogs in rubber boots etc.

    I stopped a Muslim in my local supermarket (who was buying dog food at the time) and asked him about it. He was the real thing – beard, white nightshirt, funny hat etc.

    He told me it was all nonsense ggot up by Hizb ut Tahrir.

    Dogs – he insisted – were not haram.

    He said there was a hadith that showed how Mo really liked dogs – he ordered his army to stop and protect a bitch giving birth at the roadside.

    Maybe he even patted it?

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  31. Biodegradable says:

    I stopped a Muslim in my local supermarket (who was buying dog food at the time) and asked him about it. He was the real thing – beard, white nightshirt, funny hat etc.

    Ah, documented evidence, proof, the font of all wisdom – a Muslim with a funny hat in a local supermarket!

    Egad!

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  32. Serpentine says:

    The God of Israel is the demiurge who created matter in which to sadistically torture and mutilate Lucifer’s creations. That the God of Israel made his desert “Holy Land” a place of so much suffering reveals unregenerate cruelty of Yahweh.

    The New-Age will bring in the long coming planetary immune response and every last trace of monotheism will be cleansed from the Earth.

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  33. RR says:

    Can hardly wait.
    To Muslims, Christians are of course polytheists.

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  34. Anonymous says:

    Biodegradable | 04.08.08 – 5:00 pm

    Ah, documented evidence, proof, the font of all wisdom – a Muslim with a funny hat in a local supermarket!

    well I’d rather trust a real dog-owning muslim with no axe to grind than Inyat Bunglywungly of the MCB.

    All this ‘dogs are unclean’ nonsense comes from the same dodgy sources as the (non-existent) ‘religious requirement’ for women to wear masks and long robes.

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  35. Anonymous says:

    ….which is why, I forgot to add, the BBC is wrong to promote this extremist mythology.

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  36. David Preiser (USA) says:

    ady | 04.08.08 – 11:31 am |

    I believe this is more what you’re looking for. Time to abandon this place and seek the company of people who really know what they’re talking about, eh?.

    http://www.bnp.org.uk/trafalgar-club/

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  37. Biodegradable says:

    All this ‘dogs are unclean’ nonsense comes from the same dodgy sources as the (non-existent) ‘religious requirement’ for women to wear masks and long robes.
    Anonymous | 04.08.08 – 5:29 pm

    Wrong again!

    Your friendly Muslim in the supermarket must be a shepard, a cattle-herder, a hunter or a liar:
    http://muttaqun.com/dogs.html

    And what about the facts on Jaffa oranges?

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  38. Sue says:

    Anonymous | 04.08.08 – 4:50 pm
    So does that mean the police can take their doggies’ boots off again then?

    Before I move on, I have to say your own logic leaves a lot to be desired.
    I have some problems with what you say. “Jews arrived to make the desert bloom.” indicates that you think of Israeli Jews as Europeans suddenly transplanted in droves to Arab lands as compensation for the holocaust. I.e. interlopers in someone else’s homeland.

    That’s not the case. It deviates from the actuality. It rewrites history.

    You also imply Israelis are falsely claiming that they made the desert bloom when it bloomed all along. It blooming well didn’t. Israeli endeavours amounted to a bit more than exporting some Jaffa oranges my old fruit.

    “originally made by a Jewish visitor in the 1890s.” Don’t know about that, but even if it was true, great significance is given to anti-Israeli comments that are made by Jews. You think it proves some sort of point. It may do, but not your point.

    If anything, it proves another point altogether. Jews are a diverse and self critical lot. The organisation that objected to the interrogation of ill Palis, the topic of this thread, was Jewish. Doctors 4 ‘uman rights or some such. So what?

    But the point of this thread was the biased way the BBC reported a situation which portrayed a compassionate act by Israel as an outrageous and hostile one.

    However many dogs they pat, they’re still capable of blowing themselves to smithereens even if they’ve been given the full repair service courtesy of Israeli doctors in Israeli hospitals. Asking them to help defend Israel is not unreasonable in the circumstances, and calling that ‘Spying” shows exactly what the BBC thinks.

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  39. Sue says:

    David Preiser (USA) | 04.08.08 – 5:38 pm
    Ady said goodbye the other day. It must have slipped his mind.

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  40. David Preiser (USA) says:

    RR | 04.08.08 – 5:24 pm |

    To Muslims, Christians are of course polytheists.

    A case can be made that Catholics are polytheists. They “worship”, or at least appear to give offerings to many other beings (idols, figures with supernatural powers of intervention and blessing, etc.). From a caveman (or Old Testament) perspective, giving offerings to saints and Mary can be construed as “idol worship”, or worshiping of others besides God.

    No offense meant to any Catholics in the house. This is just one perspective from the outside, coming from a group who would not consider (or accept) the special aspects of the Trinity, the divinity of Jesus, the concept of saints, etc.

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  41. Anonymous says:

    And what about the facts on Jaffa oranges?
    Biodegradable | 04.08.08 – 5:39 pm |

    By 1894, citrus fruits accounted for just under a half of the total value of exports from Jaffa

    http://www.jstor.org/pss/2536390

    The connection to the world economy, and particularly the economies of Europe, exposed Palestine’s economy
    to the influence of the changes taking place in the economies of Europe, and generated new forces and processes in
    them. …
    In this era, new settlements were established in the coastal plains, begun mainly by the inhabitants of the nearby hilly
    villages. Marj Ibn Amir was again settled and wholly cultivated, and the Beisan area and the central parts of the
    Palestinian Rift Valley (lower Wadi Fariwere settled. Oliphant described Marj Ibn Amir at the beginning of the
    1880s as follows ; Readers will be surprised to learn that almost every acre of the plain of Esdraelon is at
    this moment in the highest state of cultivation.”14 In the mountains many formerly settled sites were reoccupied
    and dozens of new villages appeared.
    The growing economic links of Palestine with the world economic system brought significant changes to the structure and
    output of agriculture, manufacturing and services of the country. In agriculture, areas of cash crops, especially citrus,
    were increased, and the irrigation systems were developed, cultivation methods were improved, and production raised.
    Citrus exports reached more than 1,600,000 cases yearly

    http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:jj_G-1AgVFAJ:www.globalmoments.uib.no/index2.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26do_pdf%3D1%26id%3D73+citrus+exports+palestine+ottoman&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=16&gl=uk

    In 1884 Dov David Feldman bought the first Jewish orchard… and established a family farm there which specialized in citrus…

    http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=sdYUAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=citrus+exports+palestine+ottoman&source=web&ots=BpeCrEXxUn&sig=p4H_KDZWUwQpuRv9Ozp7SNlLLDA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#PPA152,M1

    A Desert When?
    It couldn’t have been in 1893. That was the year the British Consul advised his government of the value of importing trees from Jaffa to improve production in Australia and South Africa [quoted in Marwan R. Beheiry, “The Agricultural Exports of Southern Palestine, 1885-1914,” Journal of Palestinian Studies, Vol. 10, No. 4, 1981, p. 67]

    It couldn’t have been in 1887, when Lawrence Oliphant’s visit to the Esdralon Valley prompted him to marvel at the “huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands; and it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive” [quoted from Ibrahim Abu-Lughod, ed., The Transformation of Palestine_ (Chicago, IL: Northwestern Press, 1971) 126].

    It couldn’t have been any time between 1856 and 1882, because the German geographer Alexander Scholch found that in those years, “Palestine produced a relatively large agricultural surplus which was marketed in neighboring countries,” and to Europe [Alexander Scholch, “The Economic Development of Palestine, 1856-1882,” _Journal of Palestinian Studies Vol 10, No. 3, 1981, 36-58].

    And in 1859 a British missionary described the southern coast of Palestine as “a very ocean of wheat,” observing that “the fields would do credit to British farming” [quoted from James Reilly, “The Peasantry of Late Ottoman Palestine,” _Journal of Palestine Studies_, Vol. 10 No. 4, 1981, p. 84].

    It couldn’t have been in 1856, when Henry Gillman, the American consul in Jerusalem, suggested that Florida citrus growers could learn from Palestinian grafting techniques [Beheiry, 75-76].

    And really, it couldn’t have been any time during the 18th or 17th centuries. French economic historian Paul Masson acknowledges that during that time, imports of wheat from Palestine saved France from numerous famines [Beheiry, 67].

    Could it have been earlier then? Apparently not.

    In 1615, Englishman George Sandys described Palestine as “a land that flows with milk and honey,” with “no part empty of delight or profit” [quoted in Richard Bevis, “Making the Desert Bloom: An Historical Picture of Pre-Zionist Palestine,”_The Middle East Newsletter_, Vol. 2, Feb.-Mar., 1971, p.4].

    In the late 10th century, a visitor wrote, “Palestine is watered by the rains and the dew. Its trees and its ploughed lands do not need artificial irrigation. Palestine is the most fertile of the Syrian provinces” [Guy Le Strange, _Palestine under the Moslems_ (Beirut, Lebanon, Khayat, 1965), 28.].

    Before he died in 986 AD, Muqqadisi, who lived in Jerusalem, told of Palestine produce that “was particularly copious and prized: fruit of every kind (olives, figs, grapes, quinces, plums, apples, dates, walnuts, almonds, jujubes and bananas), some of which were exported, and crops for processing (sugarcane, indigo and sumac)” [quoted in Walid Khalidi, _Before Their Diaspora_ (Washington, DC: Institute for Palestine Studies, 1984), 28-29.]

    http://www.cactus48.com/desert.html

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  42. Biodegradable says:

    In 1884 Dov David Feldman bought the first Jewish orchard… and established a family farm there which specialized in citrus…

    That rather contradicts your claim that Jews only began to immigrate to Israel in 1920, doesn’t it?

    Don’t you know that until 1948 Jews living in what is now Israel were called “Palestinians” and the Arabs were known as… “Arabs”.

    Don’t you know that the Jerusalem Post was formerly called… the Palestine Post?

    Woof!

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  43. Biodegradable says:

    More on “Physicians for Human Rights:
    http://www.ngo-monitor.org/digest_info.php?id=1981#PHR
    Physicians for Human Rights • Israel (PHR-I) representative questioned by General Security Services for “hostile activities”

    The General Security Service (GSS) questioned Salah Haj Yihyeh, director of mobile clinics for PHR-I, for alleged “hostile activities” related to his membership in the Al Aqsa Foundation and other alleged non-humanitarian aspects of his trips to Gaza on behalf of PHR-I.

    Just the sort of people the BBC has no problem trusting when they demonize Israel.

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  44. Anonymous says:

    That rather contradicts your claim that Jews only began to immigrate to Israel in 1920, doesn’t it?

    I never made any such claim.

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  45. meggoman says:

    Sorry no open thread

    The BBC ramping up their rescue plan for Gordon while having a dig at the USA. Seems like desperation to me.

    I thought the weekends events made it clear that there is open warfare in the Government and ZanuLabour party but the BBC says:

    “According to Monday’s reports, ………work in September – when he is said to be facing growing dissatisfaction with his leadership, and even a possible mutiny by his own MPs.”

    Talk about playing it down.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7540866.stm

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  46. Biodegradable says:

    I never made any such claim

    Oh yes you did:

    … renowned for its olive groves and olive oil industry; and long before Zionist immigration began in 1920

    Unless of course you’re another imaginatively named “Anonymous”.

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  47. Biodegradable says:

    meggoman:
    Sorry no open thread

    What’s this, Scotch mist?
    http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2008/07/general-bbc-related-comment-thread_30.html

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  48. Biodegradable says:

    This open thread is even more recent:
    http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2008/08/general-bbc-related-comment-thread.html

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  49. Cassandra says:

    Annon 1739,

    As usual your historical deconstruction of recorded events is highly selective and as usual with the beeboid style you employ you ‘forget’ to include those comments by your chosen authors and their political inclinations that do not fit your political narrative, I wonder why?
    I wonder why you forgot to mention the role of the Palestinian/Arab jews in the agricultural sector,financiers, landowners,farmers,importers,industrialists,businessmen because while Muslim Arabs did own some farms so did the Jewish inhabitants, The native Jews in conjuction with the European Jews also owned and ran the mills and ports and ships and docks and agricultural supply stores. Who do you think got the produce to a world market? As usual with posts like yours you are happy to airbrush out those people you find distasteful from history almost as though you were copying from the Soviet method of historical deconstruction! What you dont say is as important as what you do say, your one sided and partial post does nothing but expose your partisan and anti semitic agenda.
    Its easy to see why people could be taken in by such propaganda, there have always been and always will be gullible saps out there who are only too willing to excuse their racism/anti semitism behind psuedo intellectual mumbo jumbo and highly selective propaganda.

    Protocols of Zion ring any bells with you Annon? It should because its still taught in Islamist/Palestinian ‘schools’ as historical fact, as is Mein Kampf!

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  50. Atlas shrugged says:

    I contend that the BBC is not anti-Israeli or anti-semitic in a manner that makes any material difference to anything very important.

    IMO

    The BBC is anti-everything good. For example everything holy, sacred, sensible, human, conservative, rational, workable, practical, harmonious, honest, logical etc etc etc.

    I would also argue that the perceived attitude of the BBC towards Muslims. (i.e generally The BBC sucking Muslim backside at every possible chance it gets, and doing so as very obviously as the buggers think they can get away with) Has done more to cause open racism in Britain against Muslims than to stop or reduce any.

    The BBC does not discriminate, between left and right, so much as between good and evil. With a 100% bias towards EVIL, if needs be. Whether those that work for the afore mentioned, eminently nasty and infinitely corrupted organization, have the freedom of mind to understand that this has long since been so, or not.

    What BBC bullshit does not IMO result in the British people being any more anti-semitic or anti-Israeli then they would otherwise be.

    Even if the words and attitudes of the BBC did to some small extent, it would make absolutely no difference to British, European or American foreign policies, concerning the middle east in general, or The State of Israel in particular.

    This because the powers that control British European and American governments. Do not now, and never really did in the past, give a monkey’s butt what the ordinary people say they want, or not, when it comes to foreign policies especially.

    Often far less, when it comes to any other type of policies. Because they know as sure as night follows day that ultimately there own ‘peasant populations, ( that means all of us ) will get what they are given anyway.

    Then they will be brainwashed by THEIR media until the enslaved classes, ( again that means all of us ) either learn to like it, get used to it, or give up caring one way or another.

    Therefore as far as the wishes of the establishment are concerned. The BBC can carry on being as rude to Jews and there beloved country, as much, as often as they like, or even more so if one day needed.

    With the added bonus of not only conning almost all university indoctrinated lefties yet again, but also the likes of many too many bias-BBC commentators. That the BBC had, somehow magically been allowed to become anti any type of secretly agreed British Establishment agenda.

    [Which is IMO, totally impossible under any circumstances imaginable.]

    Thus helping to sustain the BBCs favorite illusion that it can be trusted with anything, never mind a thing as sacred, and extremely powerful, if not potentially earth shattering, as the unadulterated, uncensored, non establishment agenda corrupted, all inclusive TRUTH.

    Please note that when I write The BBC I could almost as often be writing Sky TV, The Guardian or The Daily Mail.

    However at least we are not currently being forced to buy any of the others comically useless, now transparently controlled, and fundamentally dishonest produce, or go to jail.

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