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I think the BBC smells like ass!! *sticks tounge out childishly*
I think it’s high time the BBC did a report on the state our fire service.
Coming home today I noticed the tall brick tower at the back of my local fire station had caught light again. This is the sixth time I’ve seen it on fire in as many weeks! One time I even saw a fireman running away from it with a box of matches.
If the fire brigade can’t even stop their own property from catching fire, – or resist the urge for some mindless arson – what chance do the rest of us stand?
Quite right Barry Chubbs Sister, I know for a fact that the fire service is rubbish as I am a fireman and we sit around all day eating doughnuts…. wait, thats not right, isn’t that supposed to be policemen? I better call my buddies and tell em it’s bacon sarnie time instead…
Hilarious opening to Newsnight. “World leaders meet, but without Obama, WHAT’S THE POINT?” *arms crossed, pouting*
Tom FD: I wonder if the BBC will say the same when the fat one eyed jock is up for election?
I notice that a BBC report from November 2007 naming the mother of the murdered baby P has been removed from the BBC website.
Here it is in Google:-
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Tracey+Connelly&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
“BBC NEWS | England | London | Mother denies murdering baby son
23 Nov 2007 … Tracey Connelly, 25, of Penshurst Road, Tottenham, north London, also denies allowing or failing to prevent Peter Connelly’s death. …”
So the mother is named as Tracey Connelly and the BBC is the only news outlet I can find who has named her.
So they can do SOME things right.
Pure evil… thats all i have to say.
…And if anyone is wondering what the subhuman scum looks like that tortured this baby to death, here is it’s face:-
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v370/87/68/561414987/n561414987_1577570_1040.jpg
She makes me want to be sick…
The cat’s out of the bag on the name of the second scumbag. Posted on the Sun website comments:-
http://www.thesun.co.uk/discussions/posts/list/288/Baby_P-133296.page
13/11/2008 16:43:00
Re:Baby P
names of baby P killers: TRACEY CONNOLLY, STEPHEN BARKER, JASON BARKER(OWEN)
THOSE EVIL ***** WHO KILLED BABY PETER SHOULD HAVE THEIR NAMES MADE PUBLIC.
EVERYONE WHO READS THIS SHOULD COPY AND PASTE THIS INFO ON THE INTERNET.
VERIFY AT THIS LINK:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6950686.stm
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1551
VILE!
“Children in Need” sucks big time –
Raising £35m? Small change even from the BBC budget, let alone the £650bn that this government lifts from us every year.
Remove the hype and it just epitomises what is wrong with this country: millions squandered on quangos, non-jobs, MPs, bureaucrats and local councils when deserving kids and their carers get just above sod all.
Our pensioners are the worst off in Europe and we have the horrible, horrible joke that the RNLI and air ambulances also have to be funded by voluntary i.e. post tax donations from the already over-taxed public.
Why? Who sets these priorities?
Why can’t we have a government which says that, actually, out of £650bn p.a. we probably could afford to look after the weakest (but not the laziest) members of our society in a much more significant way and still have billions to spend on the NHS/ schools etc.
We need a party with some imagination.
We deserve better than what we are being currently offered
Could children in need be more badly timed?
When the infant known in court only as Baby P was brought home from hospital days after his birth in March 2006, it was as a bubbly, blue-eyed boy with the first signs of curly blond hair. He was, according to those who came into contact with him, a lively child with a ready smile.
After 17 months enduring abuse of an almost unimaginable cruelty, the boy had been reduced to a nervous wreck, his hair shaved to the scalp and his body covered in bruises and scabs. Physical injuries included eight broken ribs, a broken back and the missing top of a finger, while the emotional damage was almost incalculable. Despite it all, Baby P was said to have still attempted a smile.
The jury was told that details of the intervening months, leading to the baby’s death last August, would “fill [them] with revulsion”. But even this could not prepare jurors — one of whom could not hold back tears — for one of the worst cases of sadistic brutality and sordid child neglect to come before a British court.
Baby P’s life in a council flat in Haringey, North London, began with gradual and growing neglect at the hands of his mother, who would leave him unattended for hours in his cot. The overweight woman, who had never had a full-time job and spent hours trawling the internet for pornography, split from the boy’s natural father when he was 3 months old after affairs with two men.
Review ordered after tragic life of Baby P
When the second lover moved in, Baby P’s suffering increased dramatically. The court heard that while his mother gossiped with friends in online chat rooms, her boyfriend took to beating the boy, swinging him around by the neck or legs and pinching him.
The Times has been told that the man, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, forced Baby P to follow commands like a dog. At the click of a finger he would have to sit with his head bent between his legs; 20 minutes later a second click would be the signal that he could sit upright again.
A second man, Jason Owen, also subjected the boy to similar abuse. Owen, who stayed at the house for five weeks with his 15-year-old girlfriend, was found guilty with the boyfriend of causing or allowing the death of a child. The mother admitted her guilt at an earlier hearing.
Police were told that the boyfriend, a 32-year-old collector of Nazi memorabilia, wanted to “toughen him up”. Other routines included placing the baby on a stool and spinning it around until he fell off.
The authorities had first voiced concerns about possible abuse by October 2006, when a GP noticed marks on the boy. But his mother, in the first of many episodes of deception and false reassurances, insisted she had found that his skin “bruised easily”.
Two months later the GP sent the pair to the Whittington Hospital, North London, after inspecting a head injury. Insisting that her child was “a head-banger” fond of “rough and tumble play”, the mother claimed that fingermarks were merely the result of when he was caught after being lovingly held and thrown into the air.
Social services were informed and visited the flat, which was found to be dirty, untidy and smelling of urine. They learnt that it was shared with the boy’s grandmother and three dogs, including a rottweiler, but remained unaware that it also harboured a violent boyfriend. They decided to let the child stay with a family friend while police inquiries continued.
A month later, in January 2007, with no decision made on any charge against either woman, the boy was allowed back home. As he grew too old for milk and jars of baby food, Baby P scavenged bits of broken biscuits from older children and was even seen eating dirt in the garden. Detectives found that after the boyfriend moved in there was not one piece of the boy’s clothing that was not spattered with blood.
The court heard that the mother, 27, had been taught at a boarding school where she gained GCSEs including English and IT. She had sought treatment for postnatal depression in the past. But, from the outset, she had appeared more devoted to her dogs, a German shepherd called Lady and a Staffordshire bull terrier called Lucky.
Sources involved in the case said that when officers went into the house they found dead mice and chicks lying around — food for a snake that the boyfriend kept in his bedroom. The man was also said to enjoy torturing animals and would skin frogs alive before breaking their legs. Meanwhile, the mother, known to fear him leaving her, posted on her Bebo website: “My fella is nuts but being in love is great.”
Social workers tried to keep the family together, assuaged by the mother’s excuses. They were rehoused and allocated a social worker and health visitor. Yet the violence worsened, with A&E attendances for black eyes, swellings and bruises, “scalp rash” and “ear discharge”. One episode resulted in the mother’s rearrest.
Maria Ward, the case worker, said that she visited the house four days before Baby P’s death for a prearranged meeting. She found the boy in his pushchair, his bruises covered up with chocolate. “He had eaten a chocolate biscuit and there was chocolate over his face,” she told the court. “He had chocolate on his hands and face.” She said that she asked the mother to wipe his face before they went out and the mother started cleaning him. Miss Ward noted that the boy had an infected scalp, which was covered in white cream, and an ear infection.
But she added: “He appeared well. He smiled when I spoke to him.” The case worker said that she had been content to leave the boy with his mother because she appeared to be co-operative and properly supported.
Days later — and 48 hours before his death — Baby P was taken to St Ann’s Hospital amid further concerns for his wellbeing. During an examination by Dr Sabah Al-Zayyat, a paediatrician, his mother and her friend supported the child. Despite Baby P’s repeated cries of pain, the consultant missed both his broken back and ribs.
The next day his mother was called to the social services office. She was told by police that she would not be prosecuted after consideration by the Crown Prosecution Service.
On the very same evening, back at the family home, Baby P received a fatal blow to his mouth, knocking a tooth out. After 17 months of agony, the tiny child finally succumbed. The next day he was found dead in his cot.
Anyone else noticed that when the BBC make mention of Obama they slip the fat one eyed jocks name in as well?
Can I make a prediction?
Brown will return hailed as our saviour by the BBC- in the interests of community cohesion of course.
Billions of pounds will be printed and distributed to worthy causes- you know bankers, industrialists etc.
The collapse will go on and on baecause this is what the PTB want. The pound will reach parity with the euro. In the interest of national security we will at once adopt the euro. A national government will be declared. Elections suspended. All dissent criminalised. State opression becomes state policy. Somtimes I think Atlas Shrugged is not so far off beam. Oh and in the middle of it a really hot war somewhere to whip up patriotic fervour and distract us all.
And all the time the BBC will be doing what it was created to do. Keep us in ignorance and docile
Tonight in my small country town I found 2 paramilitary ? uniformed officials in a van equipped with CCTV on the roof. Not police but when tackled very very evasive. What the hell is going on?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3460727/Dentist-sent-90-letters-claiming-he-failed-to-pay-TV-licence.html
I see the students are back from the pub…
flan
if you are referring to me. I am not a student but a working man. I never drink. And if you want I am willing to bet you one pound = one euro end january. shall we say 50 quid?
dave s, I meant the numpties at the top of the thread – to much drinking from home on my part 🙂
flan
apologies i was wondering about them as well.
Anybody seen this ?
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/hello_hello/
I thought it was W was supposed to be stupid.
Sorry about the missing “who” in the previous post. I know this kind of sloppiness irritates some people. It’s late, I’m going to bed.
The Tories should, if they are truly conservative, role back the fascist tyranny that punishes people who have the temerity to not want to put their money into a bank.
Its obscene and fascist the way we are all forced into handing our money to banks in order to survive. Why are citizens, taxpayers, not allowed to CHOOSE whether they handle their own money or put it into a bank?
BBC Bias in full swing.
The following is the only higlighted box comment in the following story http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7730803.stm
‘A panicking George Osborne is trying to talk down the economy in a desperate last throw of the dice to save his career
Labour spokesman’
The story is about Osbornes attack on Browns policy relating to sterling and the economy. Putting aside whether what is being done is right or wrong or will or won’t work, you might expect the article to concentrate on Osbornes analysis of Browns actions. But all it does it highlight the quote from a ‘Labour spokesman’ to defend Brown and NU Liebour and goes on to slag off the Tories and Osborne reporting internal criticism within the Tory party. I wonder if the Labour spokesman was a BBC employee.
There was a time when the BBC could not mention child abuse or wife beating without telling us that these things happen in apperantly nice stable middle class families as much as in the underclass.
They do not do this as much any more.
Any positive updates from the BBC with regards to the situation in Iraq? Just having a browse around the net, I find this:
“THE WAR IS OVER AND WE WON:” Michael Yon just phoned from Baghdad, and reports that things are much better than he had expected, and he had expected things to be good. “There’s nothing going on. I’m with the 10th Mountain Division, and about half of the guys I’m with haven’t fired their weapons on this tour and they’ve been here eight months. And the place we’re at, South Baghdad, used to be one of the worst places in Iraq. And now there’s nothing going on. I’ve been walking my feet off and haven’t seen anything. I’ve been asking Iraqis, ‘do you think the violence will kick up again,’ but even the Iraqi journalists are sounding optimistic now and they’re usually dour.” There’s a little bit of violence here and there, but nothing that’s a threat to the general situation. Plus, not only the Iraqi Army, but even the National Police are well thought of by the populace. Training from U.S. toops has paid off, he says, in building a rapport.
He says the big problem everybody is talking about now is corruption. But hey, we have that here, too. He’ll be heading to Afghanistan next week. “Afghanistan is a bad situation, but on Iraq I can’t believe things have turned out so well.”
He thinks that Obama will be able to pull troops out, and send some to Afghanistan, without creating problems in Iraq. Michael will be reporting from Afghanistan soon, and sending back video, so stay tuned. Things aren’t going swimmingly there.
UPDATE: Rand Simberg: “No thanks to the Democrats, including Barack Obama and Joe Biden, who tried to keep it from happening. I see that they still can’t bring themselves to utter the word ‘win’ with respect to the war. They continue to talk about ‘ending’ it. Well, it looks like George Bush did that for them, and he won it as well.”
Oh and this:
Continued School Openings Brighten Future for Iraqi Youth
BAGHDAD — Themes of hope dominate school openings and ribbon cutting events throughout Iraq. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Gulf Region Division has overseen the renovation or new construction of nearly 1,100 schools, with another 38 projects ongoing.
“This ancient civilization of Mesopotamia between the two rivers taught the world how to read and how to write,” said Ahmed Rubayee, director general of Baghdad’s Rusafa secondary education department at Al Neel School, which opened in July. “That is what we are doing here today; establishing a school – and to once again be civilized and concentrate on teaching our children to read and write.”
With the same theme of hope in a stable civilization for education, a new wing of six classrooms for Al Abrar primary school, south of Baghdad, opened for students Oct. 15. Located in the Mahmoudiyah Qada district, this $496,000 project adds much needed classroom space and facilities for this rural area.
“The ribbon cutting for this school not only signals the completion of a building, it signals one small addition of hope for the Iraqi people,” said Col. Ron Light, Gulf Region Central district commander. “While we are here to celebrate the completion of a school, more importantly, you can see the faces of hope on the children. You see the joy of being at a decent school, and that is exciting.”
Typical of Iraqi school construction for both elementary and secondary, the two-story masonry buildings at Al Neel contain 12 classrooms, an administration section, a workshop, and bathroom facilities in a 3,500 square meter walled compound. A mirror image is near completion in Husseiniyah, as Imam Al Sadiq Elementary will open later in November. Clearly the newest building in a rubble-strewn area north of Baghdad, Al Sadiq is remarkable for the contrast to its surroundings.
According to Director General Rubayee, there are 100 more schools being built in the Rusafa area alone. He says Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has announced plans for 4,000 more schools in the very near future.
“Thank you for your patriotism and the support to Iraq in this critical time,” Rubayee said to the USACE staff at the July opening. “We are all doing this for the children, for the future of Iraq.”
I laughed at the BBC on line report on ‘Osborne fears sterling collapse’. It blames Osborne for bringing up the subject instead of the merits of what he said. Typical BBC
George Osborne says Government policy is causing run on the pound and could develop into a sterling crisis.
Response of the BBC on the Today programme? Bring on economists etc. to discuss? Of course not! Their “correspondent” turns it into Osborne character assassination, tells us about the RON group in the Conservative party, tells us that he hasn’t many “friends” in the party and, by the way, whistle blowing on the economy is not considered good form.
this morning we’re another day closer to the end of Al beeb
karma’s going to put a lot of Beeboids on the dole soon
Fantastic :+:
ARE MIKEWINE LIBERAL AND WHITEWINE LIBERAL THE SAME PERSON.
Consider the evidence.
On the recent “Prosecuting the war” strand at 4.11pm 0n 13th MIKEwineliberal says..”and if the BBC is socravenly pro-Government why is it trying to push a line on Iraq and Afghanistan that is the antithesis of the Government policy?”
Among other replies he is thanked by me for confirming the lack of impartiality at the BBC at 6.51. Note mwl has been suggested as a beeboid by somebody on the site offering a name for him.
At 10.16 WHITEwineliberal replies to my comment saying …I (note the I) was asking how the thesis that the BBC is anti the Iraq…”
Did wwl forget he was supposed to be mwl? Are mwl and wwl one and the same beeboid? Is there a split personality involved?Will one or the other, or both, mysteriously disappear? Listen to next week’s exciting episode!
MWL / WWL DO TELL
I have a slightly different take on this – its the indiscriminate use of the expression “fears of”
It licenses you to say anything without proof or foundation. Fears of slump, fears of recession, fears of running out of toilet paper, fears of whatever. Not long back oil prices were climbing vertical on fears of shortage. Its the same bollox every time “fears of blah blah” Talking us into recession.
Oh, and the Osborne quote is clearly a set up. Its the only reason the BBC would run a main story on a Tory claim would be to take the opportunity to make them look foolish.
Gerald Brown 8:19
If MWL/WWL are not one and the same , they are at least twins.
white and mike are the same person. sorry for the confusion – not intentional. White was the original moniker. I changed it to mike in response to jeffd’s demented campaign to out me as some poor sap called mike lloyd. I will now aim to post only as mike.
For UK viewers with access, this performance should be on ‘Parliament’ channel next week:
“BBC chiefs to be quizzed over Jonathan Ross’s salary in wake of Sachsgate affair”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3458195/BBC-chiefs-to-be-quizzed-over-Jonathan-Rosss-salary-in-wake-of-Sachsgate-affair.html
Get the bucket again. Here’s Nick Fraser, editor of the BBC’s documentary series Storyville, blogging about Obama’s victory:
I have never seen anyone like Obama. Politicians do not have the wisdom or brass to address us in this way. So, in common with the rest of America and indeed the world I watched the events at Grant park, succumbing to the hope.
Which brings me to more workaday things. Films, journalism – we have to make them better. If we are to believe that it is possible to remake the most complicated democracy in the world, maybe we can do better with films. Yes we can.
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/independent/2008/11/watch-it—do-1.html#more
And here he is a few days later at the Sheffield Documentary Festival:
The jet lag adds to a bizarre mix of relief. I’m in In Sheffield after the overnight plane from Newark to Heathrow, the Heathrow Express, a tube, a shower, another tube, a two and a half hour rail journey through the midlands. Here I see people everywhere here who describe the same symptoms. Among the down-dressed documentary fraternity you won’t meet anyone whose heart didn’t stir on Tuesday night • they’re all lefties.
http://blogs.independent.co.uk/independent/2008/11/watch-it—do-2.html#more
Mikewine 9:53
Are you in any way related to the legendary “Igonikon Jack” who posts on the Daily Labourgraph website ?
ref Osborne –there is a convention in opposition that you agree with every single policy of the government in times of crisis–just as Labour did in the 1980s + 1990s . In return the ruling party gives you credit for your help and graciously steps down at the next election. How could anyone imagine that unfettered spending and borrowing could lead to an international disrespect and devaluation of Sterling?
DB
Yes, BBC Obamania continues.
BBC’s M.Mardell:
“A European Obama?”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2008/11/a_european_obama.html
Mardell asks for nominations. Mine is: FJORDMAN:
“Fjordman’s book ‘Defeating Eurabia'”
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3643
grant – no. is he as big an @rse as me?
A dentist was wrongly sent more than 90 letters claiming he had failed to pay his TV licence…
He said: “Saying ‘notice of impending action’ on the front of the envelope is not something I want the postman to read. It impugns my professional reputation.
“This organisation needs to be called to heel. It’s outrageous that the cost of the licence fee has been wasted in sending me all these letters.”
He said that the BBC “wouldn’t dare writing these sorts of letters” if its logo appeared on them.
Dr Knott added that the organisation “is totally out of control”, running a database “that’s stuck in a feudal state” and is “concerned solely with assuming people are criminals”.
Several of the letters implied that TV Licensing staff had police-style powers, despite their staff having no such rights, saying that: “Enforcement Officers have been authorised by us to visit your address to interview you under caution in compliance with the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 or Scottish criminal law.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/3460727/Dentist-sent-90-letters-claiming-he-failed-to-pay-TV-licence.html
I often think that what is needed is for someone to take a case against these bullies. It would be delicious if the Left’s beloved ‘uman rights legislation opened the door for someone to publicly humiliate the BBC and its Stasi pals at Capita.
Kill the beeb,
Not a good idea to put the names on the internet.Their lawyer will claim that they would not get a fair trial since the jury pool is tainted.
Top BBC headline – ‘Teachers backing Baby P director’
All these teachers work for the same employer that allowed Baby P to die. How typical of the BBC to so prominently report a non-independent source of opinion because they agree with it.
The BBC’s One O’Clock News on Radio 4 today led with the item that George Osborne is under attack for “talking down the pound” and threatening the economic rescue package. No mention to begin with of what Osborne had actually said, or why. As far as the BBC is concerned, the “news” is a Labour spokesman’s attack on him personally.
Also no mention of the fact that the pound has lost a quarter of its value in recent weeks, as a result of the Labour Government’s economic policy.
The BBC hate the idea that anyone might be critical of the fat one eyed jock.
The Tories should have been doing this long ago. Fuck the BBC rent boy users for their “you musn’t attack the Government” crap. That’s the job of the opposition.
If you see the Captain of a ship steering for the rocks you shout out to him.
And again I bring to people’s attention the fact that the BBC have to mention the fat one eyed jock every time they talk about Obama.
Oh and it didn’t take long for “hope” and “change we can believe in” to go out the window did it?
All the old Clinton dead wood coming back in and fucking Hillary as Secretary of State!!! That’s going to be a hoot.
“any answers” on radio 4 dealt with nothing but the Baby P case.
they must have been inundated with comments, calls and emails.
a reflection of the sheer anger out there about this case?
Sawtooth – it’s now story No.2 on the website:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7731163.stm
Run from the angle of Brown being diplomatic and ‘regreting’ Osborne’s comments. Never mind that what he said is true and all…
Kill the Beeb | 14.11.08 – 11:18 pm
disregarding the outcome of any trial, those people are dead if they ever walk the streets of london again.
just look at the comments on here
http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/?c=117&a=1551
there is a real anger about this out there.
i for one will not be watching children in need – in the current climate having something like on is distasteful , and even sick.
Apparently not reported by BBC, but reported by e.g., Fox News:
“Canadian Al-Jazeera Reporter Abducted in Northern Pakistan”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,452485,00.html
Apparently the woman concerned is NOT the BBC Canadian reporter in that area, Lyse (‘the humanity of the Taliban’) Doucet.
As ‘Jihadwatch’ comments about the abducted woman:
‘Whoops! Jihadists kidnap founder of jihadist website’
[Extract]:
“Over the years we’ve linked to Jihad Unspun several times to illustrate jihadist perspectives. The site’s founder, Beverly Giesbrecht, is a Canadian convert to Islam who now goes by the name Khadija Abdul Qahaar — but her open allegiance to the global jihad didn’t stop jihadists in Pakistan from kidnapping her.
“Will she now call upon her country’s government and its allies — that is, the very institutions she has despised and rejected — to save her.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023506.php
BBC film reviewer, Mark Kermode, who reviews the film ‘The Baader Meinhof Complex’, this week, mentioned his personal link to revolutionary left-wing politics in the 1980s, when reviewing on BBC Radio 5; but he doesn’t mention that connection, which ‘Wikipedia’ has as: “I was a revolutionary communist affiliate in the 1980s” in his BBC News TV channel review here (limited access), video, first 4 minutes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7730432.stm
It’s always useful to know where people on the BBC have come from.