I happened to tune in to Radio 5 just after 9pm and caught John Piennar interviewing some liberal US journalist on just how wonderful a job President-Elect Obama is doing. It was a five minute tribute to Obama with Piennar joining in the adoration of The One. Honestly, now the BBC have their man in the White House the very notion of criticising the US President will desist. Makes a change after 8 years of non-stop BBC led vitriol!
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So what will the BBC make of Osama sending 20,000 more troops to Afghanistan to ‘murder innocent people at wedding parties’?
What about the bombs dropped in Pakistan at all those innocent people attending ‘computer course’ in the mountains?
Just who will the BBC rent boy users blame then?
Spot-on DV
Spot-on Martin
BBC has immense faith in Obama saving the American economy and “changing” the big fat capitalists who own the big 3 car manufacturers. Exactly what does he mean? I have been listening to Obama for months now, and other than trade protectionism and a kind of dumbed down welfare system, what is he offering? I he a mix of FDR and Kennedy with a smattering of Martin Luther or what?
Al Beeb will give the chosen one a very long honeymoon, until he does something that Al Beeb does not agree with, then they’ll lynch him
The BBC will do what they do here, keep blaming Thatcher or in thier case George Bush (both of them)
John Pinhead of 5 lite has to be one of the most left wing journalists at the BBC. His commentary on PMQ’s every Wednesday is a real joy. I soften think I’ve been listening to a totally set of questions being asked.
Fatty Brown NEVER loses according to Pinhead.
Obama big problems will come when tax dollars fail to produce a great deal of change in the real problem areas–Detroit, New Orleans,Chicago, Deep South etc etc where poverty is not only about investment but also local intransigent attitudes. Charity Money from the government to these areas has almost always failed to deliver long term benefits –you need people to move to where the jobs are or give businesses incentives to move to where the willing people who can do are. America will reject Omama very quickly if he doesn’t produce an economic miracle —and as history tells us the economy has it’s own timeframe not really affected by goverment interference.
louis theroux did a very interesting documentary on violent crime in philadelphia recently…
only thing is – louis never once mentioned who runs the city.
i wonder why?
no prizes for guessing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Philadelphia
1952 – dem
1956 – dem
1962 – dem
1972 -dem
1980 -dem
1984 – dem
1992 – dem
1999 – dem
2008 – dem
gosh, i cant even begin to understand where phillys problems start from. and Louis Theroux doesnt either.
hmm.. though one…
by the way – irish pork scare = here’s the pain for voting against lisbon.
note the timing. christmas period – when we’ll all be buying ham and gammon alongside turkey…
“John Pinhead” – a classic! You could not invent a worthier name for a lefty journalist even if you tried.
As regards Obama, I fear he will never be held to account by the BBC, no matter what he does, because to do so will generate off-the-chart hatred from the racism industry. We all know that the BBC treasure their muulti-culti credentials above all else.
Pretty much all Dem presidents are given passes by a fawning media.
Look at Clinton, universally recognised as one of the worst presidents of recent times…yet the media loves him.
THe same will pass for Obama, regardless of whether he achieves a miracle or does nothing (which is pretty likely), the media will love him for being the first black guy in office (never mind the fact my english grandmother is blacker than this guy!).
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Archduke
Did you get my email, as requested?
BBC vows to use phrase “Obama vows” in as many headlines as possible
Obama vows rebuilt infrastructure
Obama vows help for US carmakers
Obama vows climate ‘engagement’
Obama vows to ‘work with’ McCain
Obama vows to ‘reform’ US budget
http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&nolr=1&q=%22Obama+vows%22+bbc&btnG=Search+News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/us_elections_2008/7769010.stm
Has Obama done his sermon on the mount yet?
archduke, to be fair, Louis Theroux’s documentary did expose truths that the BBC would sometimes rather keep hidden: noone watching that documentary could be in any doubt that racial politics are directly linked to crime and degradation. It was astonishing how ingrained it was in those people to see the police simply as the enemy, to refuse to help them, and at the same time to see the degeneration and degredation of their neighbourhoods as proof of the racism of the police and American society.
Those people are trapped in the emotional welfare state that their unelected community leaders and community “organisers” have led them into – refusing to help themselves and improve their lives because the group failure which they protect so carefully confirms them in their stupid belief that America is out to keep the black man down.
The most startling example was the man who, virtually in the same breath, proudly boasted that brothers never gave information to the police, and then complained that the failure of the police to find out who had shot and injured him was somehow proof of police racism.
And make no mistake, the political class that has given us Obama is directly responsible for training these morons in the thought-processes that perpetuate and nurture such professional victimhood and resentment. They would rather remain lifelong victims so as to prove their worst assumptions about the racism of The Man.
I imagine that the undoubted failure of Obama to help such people will be blamed either on the white folks who surround him or on the white genes that helped create him.
Yes henryflower I dont think last night’s Jo’burg one swept anything under the carpet either. Even when Louis was saying to the old security contractor at the end ‘shouldn’t you just put up a bigger fence?’ you knew his heart wasn’t in that line of questioning and that he had come to understand beating the perps was the only to protect yourself and your client’s and their property.
You couldn’t watch that programme and think anything other than S Africa, or Johannesburg at least, is f*cked up.
Has Obama done his sermon on the mount yet?
Martin | 08.12.08 – 11:32 am
Obama has done nothing yet and he can’t and won’t be able to do anything until January 20, 2009
Justin Webb is his usual impartial self about The One’s infrastructure plans:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/justinwebb/2008/12/this_is_the_point_httpwwwchica.html#commentsanchor
‘They entail a new mindset that builds America and doesn’t object to paying for it. It’s a mindset that could lead to change American children can believe in’, pass the bucket.
I remember John Piennar a few years back appearing on some R5 prog with Speaker Martin and praising him up big time. And John Piennar is one of the more impartial Beeb journalists. Guess he may have decided to advance his career?
Ralph,
Thats an astonishing statement to make! In effect what Webb is saying is “lets spend, spend, spend until the cows come home and dont you dare question it!”.
Perhaps this credit crunch is actually a blessing in disguise because it will restrict what Obama can do with the economy (ie. it will stop him from spending wontonly).
Mailman
I don’t find Theroux to be too bad. I think a certain amount of his naievety is calculated, in order to get people to open up to him.
Mostly he seems to concentrate on asking questions and doesn’t ‘editorialise’ much.
I didn’t need to watch the program though – we have relatives in Jo Burg.
“Look at Clinton, universally recognised as one of the worst presidents of recent times…yet the media loves him.”
Universally??!!
I could name a few people who don’t think that at all.
On the other hand, re Theroux, the failure to address the political specifics that have left people living these situations could be seen as a political statement in itself.
Not necessarily in the sense that he has failed to criticise the Democrats running Philadelphia or the government of South Africa, but rather that a great part of Theroux’s appeal comes from the specific sense he communicates that individuals make choices, that individuals have moral agency and therefore responsibility in great part for what they make of their lives. In that respect, at least, I admire his avoidance of party political points: I wouldn’t want to blame Democrats for the situation in that part of Philadelphia, only to insist that personal individual responsibility trumps state intervention in another part of town where Republicans might be in charge.
Anyway, on the strength of last night’s show, I’ve decided that I’ll no longer swoon with dizzy admiration and ethical zeal when I see Mandela shaking hands with multimillionaire Bono in front of adoring European or American crowds, or hear Desmond Tutu condemning the Israelis for defending themselves against racist murder squads masquerading as freedom fighters, while his own people revert to something that is literally reminiscent of the middle ages, the conceited, puffed-up fool.
henryflower | 08.12.08 – 5:39 pm
a great part of Theroux’s appeal comes from the specific sense he communicates that individuals make choices, that individuals have moral agency and therefore responsibility in great part for what they make of their lives.
Yes, you’re right about that. I shall watch Theroux with a less jaundiced eye next time.
Pity most beeboids take the opposite line.
I heard pm on Radio 4 tonight which featured Eddie Mair interviewing a woman whose son was killed in the 9/11 attacks, and she offered her opinion that Gitmo confessions are of little value, that invading Iraq was wrong, that GWB and the US are wrong etc. Her opinions were exactly those of the BBC (if it were not so impartial:-) ) so I suggest that the potential interviewees are filtered in a manner similar to that of Question Time attendees to ensure that ‘the message’ is constant and correct. Does anybody have more than just circumstantial evidence and the evidence of our ears that this is so?
Allan,
Having gone to Question time the audience isn’t filtered. What they do is play around with sound levels to give a false impression of support or otherwise.
What they are doing with the 9/11 woman is pick an outlier and claim it represents the group which is either an attempt to ‘get an alternative view’ or mislead.
Pretty much all Dem presidents are given passes by a fawning media.
What even Jimmy “Peanuts” Carter???
BBCBollocks: The BBC’s Jonathan Beale, at Guantanamo Bay, says the trial (of 9/11 masterminds has proved highly controversial and with the election of Mr Obama, its future is uncertain.
The president-elect has said he wants to close down the detention centre, where some 250 terrorism suspects are currently being held, but he is yet to set out what will happen instead.”
So BBC what is it? When you sit on the fence cheering one side all you get is a painful splinter up your a****
Frankos,
Yes even the worst president in living history, Jimmy Carter, gets a pass from the lefts media (its simple really, look at the media and tell me who they portray as being the worst president in HISTORY).
Mailman
No matter how bad Obama may get, the BBC will only fawn over him. The see him as ‘one of us’. It will be interesting to watch.
Al Beeb will give the chosen one a very long honeymoon, until he does something that Al Beeb does not agree with, then they’ll lynch him – The Beebinator
Quite so. His handlers will let him run the US into the ground Mandela style as long as they get what they want on foreign policy. The beauty of it is he will be given a free pass on that for a while what with being black and Dem. They will be wondering why they didnt think of this years ago. Eventually the disillusionment will set in.