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ok, i gave in.
i switched over to comic relief
for about 2 minutes.
that was enough. christ what a load of celeb-boosting luvvie-packed sanctimonious horseshit.
So RBS is now owned (almost) by the Labour Party – new prodedure for loans?
http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/melaniephillips/3436241/the-inescapable-apocalypse-has-been-seriously-underestimated.thtml
Melanie Phillips demolishes the GW fanatics/poseurs/amateurs, including a sideswipe at the BBC’s panicking
first time this week – newsnight just showed the COUNTER protest by Brits against the Muslim lunatics in Luton.
now that was NEVER shown on the main news headlines.
oh god – that Choudary fucker is on now..
archduke:
Gigits | 13.03.09 – 11:33 pm |
yeah, they’re the two i donate to as well.
also donate to the Salvation Army if they’re collecting.
Archduke, you’re right. The Sally Army found my mum for her long lost brother. Great bit of work (helped by the Department for Work and Pensions. Damn they got friends in high places :-)). They deserve a few bob in the tin as well.
i sometimes wonder if Choudary is some sort of agent provocateur for the government – nobody with an ounce of sense could be that fucking stupid.
Gigits | 14.03.09 – 12:00 am
wow. didnt know they did that sort of thing. how touching.
thanks for sharing that. really lifted my spirits to know that there are good folks out there.
meanwhile choudary is on about british soldiers “shooting muslims”.
of course he doesnt mention that 95 per cent of Iraqi casualties have been caused by Muslim terrorists.
(god – i wish there was a Kurd or Iraqi on this newsnight discussion now… they’d be FUMING right now..)
newsnight review – “is television dead”
should be interesting.
Red nose day has never been about solving poverty.
This ‘whipround for Africa’ is about symbolic socialism. There are many poor & deserving people all over the world, but none of them appeal to socialists & anti-capitalists like a mal-nourished African child.
It ties in with other ‘issues’ like colonialism, slavery, racism etc…
Whats more, it never ends. Fifty years from now Africa will still be the poster-boy of the liberal left.
I was at school during the 1985 live-aid lovefest and we all said it was pointless then. And we were right! It makes you wonder who is really exploiting who?
As for the Chinese (communists BTW), they’re going to strip mine Africa for all it has, and they won’t shed a single tear for the ‘poor’ Africans.
What will the bleeding heart socialists say about that
Bobzilla | 14.03.09 – 12:15 am
the chinese have 1 billion people in need of “lebensraum”.
doesnt take a genius to figure out where this is heading over the next 50 years.
the initial toehold on africa is already in place – Chinese PLA provide security for Sudanese oil wells, for example. (bet you didnt know that..)
Once resources such as mines, oil wells etc are threatened by civil war watch the chinese move in – first with the PLA and then with their own labour.
in other words – de facto colonisation.
mark my words – it will happen. and there will be f**k all we can do about it. (or rather – would we even be bothered about it , considering we’ve flushed 35 trillion down the toilet to africa over the past 50 years?)
newsnight review is interesting. paul mason no less points out that much of the noughties tv output has been crap.
now the discussion is about american tv series – how come they’re good at it versus brit tv?
( deadening effect of the bbc supressing the market of course never comes into it..)
I agree with everything you’ve said!!!
Spot on!
But remember this. when Africa has lost it’s natural resources and is truly dirt poor, it will be us (EU & USA) who have to feed and cloth those dozy Africans, once the Chinese have gone.
The left thrive on percieved ‘white guilt’ even when we’re not at fault
Africa will always be the white mans burden.
(and that means more awful, unfunny red-nose days)
archduke | 14.03.09 – 12:23 am | #
How can you sit through Newsnight, let alone Newsnight Review?
I haven’t been able to watch either for many moons.
Has Newsnight Review still got that bald f*ck in charge (and arse licking)?
at least its better than comic relief.
to be fair – the current discussion on the future of television is interesting.
“But remember this. when Africa has lost it’s natural resources and is truly dirt poor, it will be us (EU & USA) who have to feed and cloth those dozy Africans, once the Chinese have gone.
Bobzilla | 14.03.09 – 12:28 am | # ”
of course.
lots more red nose days in 2075 for africa , via 3d televisions made in China with materials shipped from Chinese bases on Mars and the moon.
then again, that might not happen in the Islamic Republic of Al-Britain.
Most of the 35trillion african aid went right back to buy intervention food from the EU and US hence taxpayers ended up paying twice for it !- and of course the farmers in africa couldnt get good prices for their grain =hence what was the point growing it -hence famine – hence buying more intervention food – this makes madoff’s ponsy scheme look moral!
meanwhile choudary is on about british soldiers “shooting muslims”.
i.e. quoting back instances that the BBC have reported with much eagerness & relish.
pmjk | 14.03.09 – 12:53 am
bang on.
why dont we have Libyan wine or Morrocan tomatoes? Or Ghanan oranges?
Or Congolese bananas?
tis crazy – we have a breadbasket – its an entire fucking continent called Africa. just to the south of us.
madness.
The BBC have been keen to see imminent deflation in the UK (despite current inflation levels still being above target & food prices rising by 9%pa). However when it comes to the level of the TV licence, Newsnight’s expert Mason claims that the BBC is being squeezed by less than real terms increases (even though it is fixed to rise by 2% pa for the next 3 years).
Yesterday in Amsterdam seven men of moroccan ‘origin’ were arrested under terrorism laws.
These terrorists were attempting to bomb IKEA and MediaMarkt, two of the largest shops in Amsterdam, their aim was to cause maximum carnage, what is missing from the BBC reports is that the attempted bombing in Brussels has been linked to the failed bombings in Amsterdam.
The BBC is as controversial in continental Europe as it seems to be in the UK. Here in the Netherlands, the BBC coverage of the arrests has been heavily commentated on, the contrast between the coverage given to this most recent attempted terrorist atrocity , and the visit by a Dutch politician to the UK has been a particular talking point.
The BBC is a very influential opinion former, but it needs to attempt some balance in its reporting.
Sorry, complaint over.
I found it a bit rich when comic relief announced an anonymous donation of £6m when several of the celebrities they’ve had on are worth tens of millions of quid each. The lefty beeb, holier than thou, we walk with the angels attitude does nothing except perpetuate poverty. When they talked about maternal mortality it was not unlike what we had well over a hundred years ago and it was changed by the advance of civilisation and especially economic liberalisation. They’ll keep pumping money into a bottomless pit while it’s the wider culture in poor African stated needs to change.
Also the coverage is skewed to women and children. No mention of the value of fatherhood or its hardships. Especially “Comic Relief against domestic violence” when what they really mean is violence against women despite the fact that the fastest growing area of domestic violence is against men and that a young man is equally as likely to be a victim of domestic violence than a women. And while nothing is done and the very facts are censored that change in the demographic of domestic violence will move further and further up the generational divide over time.
Have the BBC ever had a debate about whether the BBC is dead or should be? Or is that verboten?
LUTON.
-Look away now, Beeboids:
‘Daily Mail’:
“Britons who HATE Britain: The Muslim extremists hell-bent on segregation rather than integration”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161855/Britons-HATE-Britain-The-Muslim-extremists-hell-bent-segregation-integration.html
It’s late, I’m pissed, and have managed to totally avoid ‘red nose day’ – well apart from Sainsbury’s earlier this evening when the boy on the checkout said “not again”? I inquired “what”? he said “that’s Sainburys comic relief effort – it’s been on all day”. I listened and agreed, it was shit. This country is truly fucked
Doug: “Especially “Comic Relief against domestic violence” when what they really mean is violence against women despite the fact that the fastest growing area of domestic violence is against men and that a young man is equally as likely to be a victim of domestic violence than a women.”
Too true, did tyou see that sickening case in the news this week about that bitch who bit that blokes tongue off?
Doug | 14.03.09 – 1:07 am
“Africa is giving nothing to anyone – apart from AIDS”
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/africa-is-giving-nothing-to-anyone–apart-from-aids-1430428.html
Doug
‘And while nothing is done and the very facts are censored that change in the demographic of domestic violence will move further and further up the generational divide over time.’
The BBC doesn’t report news, it distorts it, to serve it’s own agenda (and a fluctuating one at that)
It is full of right-on ‘uber trendy’ twats, high on their own egos & self importance, surrounded by vacuous popstars/comedians, scrambling for the moral high ground.
Truth is a irrelevance
Anyone else noticed that if you suggest that the towel head was running round Afghanistan and Pakistan getting tooled up as a Muslim killer the BBC are quick to highlight “That is an allegation”
But when Binbag Mohammad makes his accusations the BBC take them at face value?
“”But remember this. when Africa has lost it’s natural resources and is truly dirt poor, it will be us (EU & USA) who have to feed and cloth those dozy Africans, once the Chinese have gone.”
It will be the Africans who will be gone.Africa will be a battle ground between the Chinese and the Arabs.Then the Arabs will be gone.
Garden Trash
‘It will be the Africans who will be gone.Africa will be a battle ground between the Chinese and the Arabs.Then the Arabs will be gone.’
Hooray!!!
A Chinese Africa sounds fine to me.
(at least for now!)
Garden Trash | 14.03.09 – 1:31 am
sounds like a plan.
suddenly more optimistic about the future.
If they REALLY want to torture Binyan, they should make him watch a copy of red-nose day over and over and over…..
It’s so f**king UNFUNNY
He’d cut his own head off!!
Kevin Myers is impressive – exactly the sort of journalist who would never be invited onto the BBC.
Especially as he calls out their pro-IRA propaganda:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3610739/The-BBC-is-the-IRAs-useful-idiot.html
Did the events in Luton finally cross a line – and rile the Brits too far ?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/melanie_reid/article5891128.ece
and how is this for a rant :
http://bastardoldholborn.blogspot.com/2009/03/lard-ahmed-of-tub-freed-on-appeal.html?showComment=1236878580000#c2762272528003819312
all this effort for bugger all. so we’ve been donating since Live Aid in 1985 and they are STILL poor.
they probably fake the donation totals.
considering all the fake phone-in scandals i wouldnt put it past them.
and its friday night. most youngsters are out clubbing rather than watching this crap.
Luton :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1550335/Town-at-the-end-of-the-terrorist-trails.html
and a super rant about last night’s Question Time and the wet Baroness Warsi :
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/james_delingpole/blog/2009/03/13/luton_protests_with_tory_friends_like_these
JohnA | 14.03.09 – 2:21 am
times article is bang on.
archduke franz ferdinand comes to mind.
future historians will trace things back to that incident in luton.
and how is this for a rant :
http:// bastardoldholborn.blogspo…272528003819312
JohnA | 14.03.09 – 2:21 am |
interesting. very interesting.
The coverage of the jihadi scum in Luton, and the Binyan stuff, show very clearly what is wrong with BBC “journalism”
Most of the British press saw the Luton incident as a big event, front-page stuff plus pages X and Y on inside pages plus editorials plus their columnists on the case. And the headlines have continued all week – Friday still had big press stories.
By contrast – the BBC hid it all away on an inside page, no headlines, no continuing coverage, and failed to show any of the video that had the ordinary folk of Luton chasing the jihadi scum away. Plus I heard no mention whatsoever on the World Service.
On Binyan, he is last week’s news for the press, and for the public, and is obviously hugely unpopular among the BBC’s audience/forced payers – but bigged up all day by the BBC. Three hours of continual mention of him on Radio 4 on Friday morning, plus all the other channels plus the World Service, a whole webpage devoted to articles about him. No serious questioning of what the hell the man was up to, what he was doing. Just slavish acceptance of his and his lawyers’ case. No questioning of why the hell he is here in the first place.
The BBC is totally out of touch on both these issues “non-British” in the sense of being wholly out of step with the British people. But they are in such a bubble that they can’t recognise it. Just like a fish does not know it is wet.
or rather like a romanian dictator expecting applause from his audience
about 1 hour before he was executed.
In regards to your last post JohnA:
The BBC have not hidden Luton. It was prominent on the nightly news, its been on news 24 a lot, and 5live has discussed it a lot.
In regards to Binyam, yes they are the only ones covering him, and thats because they were the only ones who had an exclusive interview with him. How would Sky or ITV cover the story when it was BBCs exclusive?
The BBC, by covering this stories, does not endorse the protestors, neither does it agree with Binyam’s claims. It is the people on this site who interpret the coverage as a sign that the BBC somehow agree with this things. You are confusing coverage with editorials. When will you understand that the BBC is merely broadcasting Binyam – NOWHERE, and i mean NOWHERE have they agreed with him, or been biased against the intelligence services in any way. Just because they broadcast an interview with David Cameron, they are not endorsing him. Just because they talk about how well Man Utd are playing right now, does not mean they are biased against the other teams nor are they endorsing united. It’s called reporting – you are the ones reading too much into things. You are the ones editorialising. You are the ones interpreting their words to fit your argument.
Have they asked him any difficult questions ” Gus ” ?
If they have then list them for us, together with his answers.
The Luton story was not on the BBC website front page either on the day it happened or on the next day when there were exchanges inb the Commons at PM’s questions. It was NOT reported on Radio 4, the main radio news channel. The BBC in general downplayed the whole story. “News 24” doesn;t count, no-one watches it except jerks like you.
The BBC had every opportunity to probe Binyan’s story properly, as they had an exclusive. They totally failed to do so.
They got the exclusive because they are a known soft touch for terrorists and terorist supporters.
There was NOTHING of any news value in the Binyan interview. Therefore nil reason to give it huge hedlines and over-the-top treatment – on top of their excessive coverage already inclusing umpteen website articles. No other part of the British media is so smitten with the Binyan story as the BBC.
You continue to lie to us, Haynes.
Eeeeeeeeeeeevil Christians!:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7941817.stm
Eeeeeeeeeeevil Hindus:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7856969.stm
Glorious Muslims:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2009/religion/7924673.stm
Would it be possible under the Freedom of Information laws to get a list of all the Editorial staff in the News Departments of the BBC. I have a feeling that this might prove to be most interesting
And it’s curious how, in the first of those, the consequences of leaving Islam aren’t mentioned.
http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Persecution_of_Ex-Muslims
Population of Africa: 900m
Fertility: Average number of births per mother – over 5
The only things Africa makes of more Africans.
Why don’t we send Bob Geldof over in person – he’s food for a family for a week or two
3 headlines and opening words, try and guess which one is the BBC:
Four arrested over boy’s murder
Four people have been arrested on suspicion of murder after a 17-year-old boy was attacked as he walked with his girlfriend in Hereford.
Migrants held after 17-year-old is beaten to death walking under a bridge
Student Darren Loader was beaten to death in a savage attack under a railway bridge after being ambushed by two men as he walked with two girls.
Four Eastern European immigrants arrested over 17-year-old’s subway murder
Darren Loader, a student, was ambushed by two men as he walked with two girls in Great Western Way, Hereford, between 9.30pm and 10.30pm on Thursday. He received severe injuries to his head in the attack. One of his friends had her arm broken as she tried to fend off the men.
Just found this.
Copy of an NABD related blog that may interest you….
Some years ago the NABD were approached by some people from the BBC who were involved in making the short film sections relating to different causes on Comic Relief day. They wanted a short piece about the NABD to include in the ‘Disabled People’ section of the programme.
We agreed to this and a dozen of us spent a long freezing-cold day filming in the Peak District for what was planned to be a thirty second piece of the five minute section to do with disabilities.
Some weeks later I had a call from the director saying that they were so pleased with the film and the positive image it portrayed of disabled people pro-actively helping each other that they were going to make it the lead two-minute feature of the disabilities section.
Obviously we were rather proud of this and happy to see the BBC moving away from the ‘pat the poor drooling cripple on the head’ type of image they had previously favoured when dealing with disability related charities. We wrote to all of our members and supporters and to the bike press encouraging people to support Comic Relief and to look out for our bit on the day.
The BBC sent me a video of the piece and our bit was set to the song “I Wasn’t Born to Follow” off the Easy Rider soundtrack. It was really impressive and showed disabled people reclaiming their independence and living life to the full (and looking cool doing it).
Then three days before Red Nose day I had another call from the BBC director saying “I’m really sorry about this Rick but we’ve had to edit the NABD piece out completely!” There had been a meeting to finalise the running order for Comic Relief and one of the presenters, a tenth rate media nobody called Emma Freud (daughter of the MP Clement Freud who’s only notable contribution to British society was a set of dog food adverts where he was up-staged by a baggy faced dog) had objected to our inclusion on the basis that “Comic Relief should not be associating itself with bikers” and the rest of them agreed so the piece was dropped.
It has pained me every year to see hundreds, if not thousands, of bikers getting involved in fund-raising for a charity that is controlled by people who so obviously despise bikers. I for one will never support such a cause in any shape or form and I urge all other bikers to take the same stand!
So please don’t send me any Red Nose related requests. As far as I’m concerned Comic Relief and the bigoted shite that control it can kiss my hairy arse!
ref Binyan
the BBC actually ran through the series of events leading to his capture; him visiting an AlQueda training camp in Pakistan “out of curiosity” and visiting Afghanistan “because it is a popular hoiday destination for a Muslim”, but failed to mention his false passports or his attempts to get on planes from Paskistan with them.
It was very pally and apologetic in tone. Also failed to mention his ties with members of Al Majoroon (sic) and Abdul Hamsa etc etc.
Also forgot to mention a report from the Afghan front line from our troops which says that a lot of the Taleban are from Britain.
Surely these treacherous scum must be eradicated, or alternatively given large chunks of compensation and a spot on that daytime light programme “Jihad with Binyam”
DARFUR.
Oh, to the BBC it’s all about ‘black Africans’ and ‘the Arab-dominated regime’:
[Extract]:
BBC report:
“The UN estimates that 300,000 people have died and 2.7 million been displaced since black African rebels took up arms in 2003 against the Arab-dominated regime demanding a greater share of resources and power.”
Darfur aid hostages “not freed”‘
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7943187.stm
‘Jihadwatch’:
“If the Darfur genocide was being carried out by Jews or Christians instead of Arab Muslims, would we see a different response?”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024680.php