Friday Night General BBC-related comment thread.

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  1. NotaSheep says:

    I note that the BBC are still refusing to show the Daniel Hannan attack on Gordon Brown but are more than happy to show a minute or so of the Labour video which ridicules Conservatives John Redwood and Nick Bourne, and Plaid Cymru leader Ieuan Wyn Jones.

    More details here.

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  2. archroy says:

    I think that video is probably as harmful to Labour as the Hannan speech! The more the Beeb show it the better,

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  3. Doug says:

    The compare and contrast Notasheep highlights is the the most blatant example of bias and failure of their charter. Anyone on the right is censored from the BBC main programmes while the left are cheered on by the BBC.

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  4. Martin says:

    The BBC don’t care any more. They are right up the bottom of Liebour and will happily take the accusations of bias in the vain hope of saving the fat one eyed one.

    Hannan was on Sean Hannity last night. At least Fox is giving the guy airtime in the USA.

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  5. nrg says:

    Daniel Hannan got a bit of coverage on PM yesterday but today the presenter labled him as “right wing” Conservative MEP and read out a bitter little hatched job submitted by a Labourite listener. Strangely they only read out one letter.

    PM had Red Ken on, strangely he was not labeled as the “left wing” ex-mayor.

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  6. nrg says:

    Did anyone else hear the PM correspondent dismissing today’s dismal economic news as insignificant?

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  7. Martin says:

    I find it odd that I have to watch Fox News to find out what’s going on in my own Country.

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  8. Ricky Martin says:

    Hannan’s speech is quite rightly seen as a seminal moment in contemporary international politics. It has taken on almost mythic status.

    The humiliation of the One Eyed Stiff One is complete.

    Yet, despite the huge public investment in the BBC’s vast array of detector vans, they some how missed it.

    Strange, but true.

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  9. John Bosworth says:

    There is no doubt that the BBC and the media in the UK missed the Hannan moment completely. But what is now very interesting is how none of the media wish to address the substantive points made by Hannan. Instead they are centering on the “YOUTUBE clip” story, deflecting the real debate. (“Gosh”, they ask in amazement, “how could this incident be important when we didn’t tell people that it was?”)

    On BBC TV, one hackette described Hannan as making a “little” speech and actually asked, “Why should we be interested in listening to someone no-one has ever heard of?”

    However the BBC’s choice of Labour spokesman (Dolly Draper) is terrible, having learned everything he knows from the George Galloway School of Debate (i.e. abuse and name-calling).

    Hannan’s remarks and subsequent celebrity show that he said what others have been too afraid, cowered or inarticulate to express. While the inability of the BBC producer class to spot this, shows them to be deaf, dumb and blind to the real world outside the hospitality suites of Television Centre.

    Sadly for Mr Hannan, I now fear he will receive the Sarah Palin treatment. What the BBC and it’s ilk does not create it seeks to destroy.

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  10. Gigits says:

    The Hannon vid is on Al Beeb website now, but hidden away in the ‘England’ section of the ‘News’.

    Too little, too late.

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  11. Neil Reddin says:

    I noticed that the Beeb found another excuse to give Ken Livingstone some airtime, on the PM programme tonight.

    Blogged.

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  12. Susan Franklin says:

    ITV news this evening showed the president of Chile Michele Bachelet saying to Brown that in Chile they put something aside during the good times to enable them to get through the recession. Have BBC mentioned that I wonder?

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  13. billy best says:

    http://www.rotherhamadvertiser.com/News.aspx?id=8694

    one story that will never make it on bbc news even though its sounding like a hell of a big thing.

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  14. Mugwump says:

    BBC Host Max Keiser tells Aljazeera English that countries won’t push toward a global currency for fear ‘U.S. Marines are going to show up in our backdoor.’

    http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090327140941.aspx

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  15. Grimer says:

    Surely it is time to bring back public flogging/hanging?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7968191.stm

    “Two men who admitted torturing and killing a man with learning difficulties in his Fife home have been jailed for a total of 25 years.

    Barry Kidd and Stuart Whyte punched and kicked Mark White and left him locked in his Glenrothes house with a plastic bag over his head last November”
    ….

    “Police said Mr White had suffered a “horrific ordeal”.”

    “The judge pointed out that both had previous convictions for housebreaking and sentenced them to 12 and half years imprisonment each.”

    “They gained entry to the house and attacked the victim after using the pretence of being utility firm employees.”

    “Mr White was repeatedly punched and kicked, pinned to the ground and put in a headlock. A knife was put to his face and a plastic bag put over his head and bound with tape.

    His hands and feet were taped and his head was stamped on before he was dragged into a cupboard.

    He was confined in the house after the robbery with doors being locked and keys taken.

    Advocate depute Ashley Edwards said of Mr White: “He was a vulnerable, trusting person with learning difficulties which were the result of complications during his birth.”

    “Despite all his difficulties he was able to reside on his own and lived a simplistic and very routine way of life.””

    “Miss Edwards said pathologists decided that the victim had died from hypothermia following blood loss from a scalp wound after the assault.
    _____

    Just reading this has left me fuming. 12 years for murdering the disabled? If racially motivated murders get longer sentances, why not those scum that prey on the elderly and infirm?

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  16. Bryan says:

    Grimer, they should face a firing squad.
    It’s quick, clean, unburdens the taxpayer and reduces the chance of a repeat offence to zero.

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  17. Jon says:

    So how did they only get 12 years?

    “The Home Office spokeswoman said: “We are still committed to the murder review, an announcement of its terms of reference will be made in due course.

    “Whatever happens there will be no compromise on a mandatory life sentence for murder.”
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4574661.stm

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  18. The Cattle Prod of Destiny says:

    I see Yasmin Alibhai-Brown was up to her usual tricks today on the Jeremy Vine show. Apparently she thinks asian postmasters do not have a sufficient grasp of English and should be sacked from their jobs.

    She challenged one today over his pronunciation of ‘interpreter.’ After intelectually bullying the chap she dismissed his arguments because ‘she couldn’t understand his English!’

    Oh, and Vine consistantly misrepresented the post-master’s POV even after numerous corrections. Apparently the poor chap was not as bad as the BBC wanted to paint him.

    Only on the BBC …

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  19. emil says:

    Any number of Asian postmasters would be more capable of running the British economy than the charlatan who wrecked our finances over 11 years, whether they can speak a word of English or not.

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  20. Gigits says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7966263.stm

    This is sooooo cosy. Snuggle up to Iran and then repent when some part part of the world disappears under a huge mushroom cloud!

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  21. Grant says:

    Dan Hannan, almost 1.3 million hits now !

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  22. The Beebinator says:

    Yasmin Alibhai-Brown – ugliest beeboid on the box.

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  23. The Cattle Prod of Destiny says:

    The Beebinator | 27.03.09 – 10:27 pm |
    And that’s just on the inside …

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  24. Doug says:

    Very interesting programme on with John Simpson taking Ranulph Fiennes and Robin Knox-Johnston (yachtsman) around Afghanistan. And both the guests are tearing into Simpson’s assumptions of what news is, what he selectively reports and how he ignores information and comments that the quests find far more revealing and interesting.

    This is an amazing behind the scenes look at BBC bias in action. I’d guess it would be twenty times worse for al-Bowen. I wonder who will be in the other 2 programmes.

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  25. Gaz says:

    At the Any Questions audience tonight, a satisfying boo for Hazel Blears, following on from Harmons last night.

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  26. Martin says:

    The Beebinator: Yes she is ugly, but so is Baroness Billingham and fatty Abbott. In fact as we discussed last night the Labour party is full of total mingers.

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  27. The Beebinator says:

    Radio 1 boss warns Chris Moyles

    BBC Radio 1 controller Andy Parfitt has warned Chris Moyles about his on-air behaviour, after the breakfast host mocked singer Will Young’s sexuality.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7968127.stm

    but its ok for the beeboid scum to take the piss out of Baroness Thatcher or George W bush etc but you cant take the piss out of those who drop anchor in poo bay

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  28. Ricky Martin says:

    Yasmin Alibhai-Brown – ugliest beeboid on the box.
    The Beebinator | 27.03.09 – 10:27 pm | #

    Known by her colleagues as the Yaz Munster

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  29. frankos says:

    Yasmin Alibhai-Brown
    I heard the item on the Gutless Vine programme and was as underimpressed with her as usual. She really needs to get out into real Britain a bit more.
    She would have every sympathy if it was an Asian in their own country refusing to serve Brits who refused to speak the local language.
    Inconsistent hypocrite!!!

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  30. Garden Trash says:

    “I heard the item on the Gutless Vine programme and was as underimpressed with her as usual. She really needs to get out into real Britain a bit more.”

    What,and meet working class white people?

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  31. Peter says:

    NotaSheep | Homepage | 27.03.09 – 6:57 pm |

    Nifty. As some have already pointed out, this ‘effort’ may not have quite the effect intended for the creators or their uniquely-funded, objective PR agency:)

    Now DV has gone all a/v, might it not be worth creating on the new site incarnation a section that simply sets up such things side by side.

    No commentary; simply let the perpetrators and their body of work speak for themselves.

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  32. hatethebias says:

    Just listened to a report on the Today programme concerning the events surrounding the no cofidence debate which got rid of the labour government in 1979. Not a single Conservative voice, and the discussion was between Jim Naughtie, David Steele and Roy Hattersley! Bias or what?

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  33. charlie buoy says:

    http://welshramblings.blogspot.com/2009/03/radio-wales-biased.html

    A case of BBC Wales bias concerning the ‘Cuprinol Kid’

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  34. It's all too much says:

    Doug,
    I saw the Simpson piece last night and you are right – it was an utterly compelling insight into BBC Bias. If the re-play facility is working, all bloggers here should watch it. (linked below)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jjqbr/Top_Dogs_Adventures_in_War_Sea_and_Ice_Afghanistan/

    Selective reporting – Simposon blatantly selected only those items that he considered appropriate to support his narrative. He depended on his “feel”…

    Prejudice – in its literal sense, Simpson had decided what the story was before he was contaminated with any actual facts or information, he specifically said that news was what he decided it was!

    Huberis – the conceit and pomposity of the man was unbearable, lecturing Fiennes, an ex SAS colonel amongst other things and swanning around with the self importance and need for deference of a retired Viceroy

    Moral Bollocks – Simpson lectured us on how he would never touch a gun because he was a “journalist”, washing his hands of moral ambivolence of being associated with one side or another in a war zone. Why does he glory in war ‘pornography’ then?

    Vapidity – he collected no information about Tora Bora, this was a classic Private Eye “going live” scenario – he went there for a photographic back drop only.

    Incompetence – he clearly made material up as he went along (to fit a pre-decided narrative)

    If this was an example of their top reporter at work I have had my suspicions confirmed. he could have done that job from home with a few library photographs for a backdrop. The trip added nothing to the BBC narrative

    The programme was interesting in that it illustrated everything that you ever suspected was wrong about BBC repoorting, but I shocked myself (yes really) by shouting “you smug ***t” spontaneously at the TV at one particularly odious moment (and then worried if my wife upstairs had heard me!)

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  35. It's all too much says:

    sorry about the typos..

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  36. DB says:

    When the BBC resurrected Robin Hood the character of Friar Tuck was not included because of PC concerns about making fun of fat people. They’ve had a rethink and the new series will now include the character – as a black martial arts expert:
    http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article5989329.ece

    “He wants England to be a place of hope but he comes back to find that the people are slightly broken, much like they are now with the credit crunch… He’s very much for the people, by the people…”

    They should’ve renamed him Friar Obama and be done with it.

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  37. DB says:

    For this year’s BAFTA television awards the BBC put forward White Girl as one of its nominations in the best single drama category. They’re obviously very proud of their right-on fantasy story in which lowlife northern white females find salvation through Islam. Just the sort of leftie shite the BAFTA luvvies will probably vote for, too.

    The BBC’s major drama about forced marriages and the honour killings of Islamic girls in Britain didn’t make it to the BAFTA nomination stage, mainly because the BBC hasn’t made such a film.

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  38. Bert Rodinsky says:

    Just watchimg the Sipmpson program. I am sorry but I don’t see how Mr fatty simpson’s reporting and his character can be compared to true adventurers like Fiennes and Johnston. Simpson bigs himsef up in his reports and overstates the danger he faces. The other chaps adventures speak for themselves.

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  39. Bert Rodinsky says:

    If you want a real deomstration of how BBC reporters make up the news rather than actually reporting the truth you need to watch this :-

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jjqbr/Top_Dogs_Adventures_in_War_Sea_and_Ice_Afghanistan/

    Simpsons arrogance is amazing. He openly admits that he has already decided what the truth is and will not change the story no matter what his interviewees say.

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  40. will2001 says:

    Simpson bigs himsef up in his reports and overstates the danger he faces.

    I only saw the start of the programme where the USAF nearly slotted him. Simpson was claiming that he had had his clothes ripped off, whereas he was wearing those cargo style pants with a zipper to convert them to shorts. He had unzipped one leg.

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  41. Millie Tant says:

    Bert Rodinsky:
    If you want a real deomstration of how BBC reporters make up the news rather than actually reporting the truth you need to watch this :-

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/epi…ce_Afghanistan/

    Bert Rodinsky | 28.03.09 – 1:11 pm | #
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    “This”, it turns out, is a 58-minute recording.

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  42. will2001 says:

    BUCKINGHAM Palace is to switch off its lights for an hour tonight as part of a drive to highlight climate change.

    More than 50million people are set to join the global switch-off started by The World Wildlife Fund for Nature two years ago in Australia.

    Does that mean that the BBC will have to show solidarity & close down for an hour?

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  43. Cassandra says:

    Will2001,

    Last time they tried this pathetic and useless trick electricity usage actually went up!
    I predict the BBC will peddle it a raging triumph but the actual figures will prove it yet another flop, heres hoping they are made to look utterly stupid again eh?

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  44. Mark says:

    Doug: – “Very interesting programme on with John Simpson taking Ranulph Fiennes and Robin Knox-Johnston (yachtsman) around Afghanistan.” … “I wonder who will be in the other 2 programmes.”

    The answer is in your first sentence. Knox-Johnson next week and Fiennes the week after.

    It’s all too much: – “… the conceit and pomposity of the man was unbearable, lecturing Fiennes, an ex SAS colonel.”

    He was only a captain. He was thrown out of the SAS.

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  45. It's all too much says:

    Mark,
    I am corrected, I got the rank wrong. beyond that error, do you have a point to make?

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  46. David Preiser (USA) says:

    I don’t mean to shock anyone, but the BBC’s Obama Diary isn’t telling the truth.

    I haven’t looked in a couple of days, but I just saw this entry by Jon Donnison, for Day 66:

    Obama’s “virtual town hall” (you have to scroll down to it)

    Visitors to the White House website were able to vote on which of the tens of thousands of questions submitted they wanted the President to answer. The theme was supposed to be the economy, but the questions – some of them posted in video form – were wide-ranging.

    Questioners asked Mr Obama about job losses, healthcare reform and education policy.

    After the bit about the marijuana questions, Donnison says this:

    That audience, though, is just another key one that President Obama has managed to speak to this week in an effort to get his message across.

    Never before has the American public had such a variety of means to tune in to the nation’s Commander-in-Chief.

    What the BBC doesn’t want you to know is this:

    Obama Town Hall Questioners Were Campaign Backers

    But while the online question portion of the White House town hall was open to any member of the public with an Internet connection, the five fully identified questioners called on randomly by the president in the East Room were anything but a diverse lot. They included: a member of the pro-Obama Service Employees International Union, a member of the Democratic National Committee who campaigned for Obama among Hispanics during the primary; a former Democratic candidate for Virginia state delegate who endorsed Obama last fall in an op-ed in the Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star; and a Virginia businessman who was a donor to Obama’s campaign in 2008.

    Your license fee hard at work.

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  47. George R says:

    ‘Telegraph’:

    “Archbishop confronts BBC Director General over its treatment of religion ”

    OR:

    (‘Dhimmi contacts dhimmi’)

    [Extract]:

    “The corporation recently sacked its head of religious programmes, Michael Wakelin, a Methodist preacher.

    “The emergence of a Muslim as the front-runner to succeed Mr Wakelin, along with the recent appointment of a Sikh to produce Songs of Praise, has raised fears within the Church that the Christian voice is being sidelined.

    “Mr Thompson caused controversy last year when he suggested that Islam should be treated more sensitively by the media than Christianity because Muslims are a minority religion.

    “As a public service broadcaster, the BBC has a duty to provide religious programmes….

    “During the past year, four out of seven executives in the BBC’s religion department have been made redundant, with Mr Wakelin the latest casualty.

    “The favourite to succeed him is Aaqil Ahmed, a Muslim who • as commissioning editor for religion at Channel 4 • has been accused of treating faiths differently in the programmes he has commissioned.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5067420/Archbishop-confronts-BBC-Director-General-over-its-treatment-of-religion.html

    Between them, the dhimmi BBC and the dhimmi C of E are speeding up the Islamization of Britain.

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  48. Millie Tant says:

    I’m not shocked but I just don’t read the diary or indeed anything that the BBC writes about Obama, unless it is something you or someone else posts here.

    Nothing would surprise me about the underhand tricks of the North America editor and pals.

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  49. Anonymous says:

    The Archbishop of Canterbury has complained to the Director General of the BBC about the decline of religious programming at the Corporation.

    The corporation recently sacked its head of religious programmes, Michael Wakelin, a Methodist preacher.

    The emergence of a Muslim as the front-runner to succeed Mr Wakelin, along with the recent appointment of a Sikh to produce Songs of Praise, has raised fears within the Church that the Christian voice is being sidelined.

    Mr Thompson caused controversy last year when he suggested that Islam should be treated more sensitively by the media than Christianity because Muslims are a minority religion.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/5067420/Archbishop-confronts-BBC-Director-General-over-its-treatment-of-religion.html
    .

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  50. Millie Tant says:

    Channel 4 also has a Muslim gent as commissioning editor for multiculti.
    Who knows what else?

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