74 Responses to OPEN THREAD…

  1. Jack Bauer says:

    You’d think the BBC might run at least one story saying thank God for manmade global warming, imagine how cold it would be without THAT!

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  2. Umbongo says:

    Today gave the latest bandwagon jumper – Steve Remp – the freedom of the airways to glow about how much money his company will be making from the taxpayers billions thrown at wind energy – oh no sorry, how spending £100 billion will benefit the UK (you know, jobs and all that).  I know Steve – or at least I’ve exchanged the odd word with him at various O&G get-togethers.  He’s a chancer (that’s a description not a condemnation) and has been in the oil & gas business since the year dot.  At the same time as his company – Ramco – lost a massive bet in O&G in Iraq, Steve was following Al Gore down the path to redemption by discovering the taxpayer-funded world of alternative energy and becoming a born-again “clean” energy fanatic.

    According to Steve Aberdeen now has the same buzz as in the 60s: Today forgot to remind him that 50 years ago the buzz in Aberdeen was fuelled by private money and private investment.  This time any buzz is thanks to your and my money seized from us law and poured into the black hole of green technology.  Well, good luck to Steve.  I’m sure he’ll succeed at the taxpayers’ teat.  However, it’s odd that somebody who will remake his fortune on the back of the taxpayer is not condemned by Today in the same terms as those evil bankers who we also rescued.

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  3. Martin says:

    Typical BBC. Radio 5 doing  a bit on the plan for the French to ban the vile Burkha. Of course Victoria Pollard only has Muslim callers except for the usual left wing mincing jock who of course is fully supportive. Can I suggest the 4 million Muslims living in England be sent to Scotland and he can see how his ‘tolerance’ is treated then?

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  4. George R says:

    BBC report:

    “George Galloway,MP, deported from Egypt, say activists”

    (BBC was, no doubt, tempted to add: ‘Israel to blame’)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8447847.stm

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    • Biodegradable says:

      What the BBC has not added, at least yet, is the fact that
      Egypt declares UK politician George Galloway persona non grata

      While Al-Beeb constantly tells us that the smuggling tunnels are mainly used to bring in “essential supplies” from Egypt but “Israel says” they’re used to smuggle in arms and explosives, here it is, straight from the camel’s mouth:

      Hamas boasts new types of weapons smuggled into Strip

      Hamas on Friday boasted that it had managed to smuggle new types of weapons into the Gaza Strip despite the blockade, and published photographs of some of the arms it allegedly obtained.
      Izz al-Din al- Kassam Brigades published photographs of newly acquired weapons including missiles with a double warhead, 107-mm caliber missiles designed to penetrate fortified structures, and a new type of armor-piercing RPG missile.
      Hamas spokesman Abu Ubeida warned that the group has “thousands of fighters and good weapons capable of harming Israel.”

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      • sue says:

        George’s deportation from Egypt has been knocked off its top perch on the BBC website by the Israeli air strike in Gaza which must be more interesting to BBC followers than the adventures of a British MP.

        The article had been altered from the original so I had a look over at Revisionista,

         Version 0, at 00:20:45 says the air strikes have “hit a number of targets in the Gaza Strip killing at least one person and wounding two others, Palestinian medics have said.”

         In version 1 (00:31:17) they have deleted the word ‘strip’ and revised the wounded- down from two, to “at least one other” and changing the ending, inexplicably, to  “medics HAD said”. A number of further additions appear, including the body count from Op Cast Lead.  Score = Palestinians, 1.300. Israelis, 13. 

        The next version (2) at 00:50:48 includes the information that the air strikes were on two smuggling tunnels in Rafah, and that Hamas said a jet had also bombed a building in Gaza City. It ends:
         “The Israeli  military told Israeli media that its aircraft had bombed a tunnel linking Gaza to Israel, a weapons factory in Gaza City, and two smuggling tunnels running underneath the border with Egypt..”
         It looks as though they got that info from the Israeli media. The words of Hamas, however, seem to have come straight from the horse’s mouth.

        cont/

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        • sue says:

          The next version, number 3, @ 10:01:56 the first bit changes from “medics had said” to “medics say” and at last they seem to have had a statement from Israel. Prompt at 10:01:56.

          “The Israeli military said it was responding to mortar and rocket attacks on Thursday on Israel from Gaza.
          It said it attacked two tunnels on the border with Egypt, a tunnel to be used by militants for crossing into Israel and a weapons making site.”

          “On Thursday, Israeli planes dropped thousands of leaflets over the Gaza Strip warning residents to steer clear of the border after Palestinian militants fired mortar rounds into Israel. Gaza militants have fired more than 280 rockets or mortars since the end of a devastating offensive against the territory on January 18th according to the Israeli military.”

          “Palestinian military groups and human right (sic) organisations say about about (sic) 1,400 (the missing hundred bodies have re-appeared) died during the offensive. Thirteen Israelis were also dies (sic) in the offensive.”

           Someone noticed at 12:01:47 and changed “were also dies” to “were also killed” but they left the ‘about about’ alone alone.
          The headline remains the same. Three Palestinians killed in Israeli air strike on Gaza.
          The other stuff obviously wasn’t so remarkable.

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    • Jack Bauer says:

      Galloway’s declared persona non grata?

      That’s nothing! Years ago I declared the malignant Galloway as personally vile, and worthy of banning from BRITAIN. 

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  5. ryan says:

    Two more white anglo-saxon men at it again …

    from http://us.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/08/new.york.terror.case/index.html today

    Two men were arrested Friday by the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force in connection with the case of Najibullah Zazi, accused of conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction on U.S. soil.
    The FBI identified them as Adis Medunjanin and Zarein Ahmedzay.

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  6. Martin says:

    Note how this BBC report about Hattie Hatmenperson is spun totally to make her look good.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8447784.stm

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    • Keef says:

      Very obvious indeed.
      “Ms Harman, who is also House of Commons leader and equality minister, was using her mobile phone when she got into the car and throughout the low-speed incident, the court heard.” and yet the mobile phone charge was withdrawn, why?

      And why nothing about the fact that originally a spokesperson for Harriet stated “”Miss Harman strongly refutes the allegations and will deny the charges.”- yet she pleaded guilty…

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  7. Grant says:

    I am sure that it will have been mentioned here ,but I don’t have the time to follow every post. 
    However,  contributor to B-BBC  ” Craig ”  has a website at   http://www.beebbiascraig.blogspot.com  which I would definitely recommend.
    I don’t see it as a rival to this site, more complementary.
    Apologies if you all know about it already.

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  8. Guest says:

    Oh God. Tonight’s Any Questions is coming from a mosque. When will this stop?

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  9. TooTrue says:

    Biodegradable,

    I recall that when Israel was about to go into Gaza a year ago there were chest-thumping boasts from Hamas that Gaza would be “a graveyard for Israeli soldiers.” Then of course they ran from the Israelis after one or two initial attempts at “resistance.”  Looks like the Iranians have identified the weaknesses and are trying to correct them with more sophisticated weapons.

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  10. TooTrue says:

    Sue,

    From your BBC versions it seems like they are now employing Paledstinians with only a rudimentary acquaintance with the English language. I guess it had to happen.

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  11. Dark Lochnagar says:

    Can anyone tell me why Jonathon Ross’s resigntion from the BBC was the second item on the Six o’clock news last night, just after the state of the country with the bad weather and just before the story about the Hoon and Hewitt conspiracy.  Not only was it on for five minutes or more but they even went to the extent of interviewing people in the street!

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  12. George R says:

    “Yentob refuses to hear more of Moore”

    http://londonersdiary.standard.co.uk/2010/01/yentob-refuses-to-hear-more-of-moore.html

    It’s a pity we don’t hear less of Yentob:

    “And over on BBC1 it’s Ready Steady Yentob! ”

    (Littlejohn).

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1235919/And-BBC1-Ready-Steady-Yentob.html#ixzz0c30zNew0

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  13. ryan says:

    Looks like Richard Bacon is going to have David Cameron on for an hour on day 1 on his program.

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  14. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Happened to catch some of the World’s Strongest Man competition on TV last night.  One of the competitors was from the UK, yet was refreshingly labeled as “English”, and the Cross of St. George was used as his national flag.

    At least sports still remain uncorrupted by the BBC’s narrative that it’s a racist symbol.

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  15. mr angry says:

    Hi I have had problems trying to post on here. So I hope this works.
    I still dont see any mention of the British woman raped then arrested in Dubai.

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  16. mr angry says:

    on the BBC that is.

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  17. Grant says:

    Mr. Angry,
    That is because she is a “British”  muslim who got drunk and was raped by a Syrian muslim.  How can the BBC report that ???

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  18. mr angry says:

    Grant,
    By putting a moral relativist, multicultural, mildly disaproving  spin on it.
    That is, if they ever get round to reporting it. Surely, this poor woman now arrested and facing jail deserves some publicity for her plight!

    This is fucking insanity and these people need to be told.

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  19. George R says:

    Illegal immigration into UK: sham marriages.

    At last , a rare example of BBC  investigative journalism:

    “BBC News uncovers a suspected sham marriage racket” (5 min video) –

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8445835.stm

     But the BBC report does not give any real context to the scale of the problem, nor to what the Labour government should, but doesn’t do to tighten UK immigration controls.

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  20. Llew says:

    It would seem that two important manifesto aims were released by the Tories overnight…

    “We will hand power to restrain unruly pupils back to the teachers, say Tories”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241771/We-hand-power-restrain-unruly-pupils-teachers-say-Tories.html

    and

    “Conservatives pledge to close ‘dangerous’ student visa loopholes”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241785/Conservatives-pledge-close-dangerous-student-visa-loopholes-allow-1-5million-enter-UK-unchecked.html

    But not a word mentioned on BBC breakfast news this morning, or any mention as far as I can see on their website.

    However 

    “Alistair Darling warns Britain faces toughest spending cuts in 20 years”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1241806/Alistair-Darling-warns-Britain-faces-toughest-spending-cuts-20-years.html

    does get mentioned on the BBC because the story can (and has) been spun into a “Labour will cut, carefully and slowly” whilst “Tories will cut quickly and savagely” (my quotes).

    The BBC, only reporting news that is beneficial to Labour, ignoring news that could be beneficial to the Tories. Day in day out week in week out etc.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Yes, now that all these factional rifts have been revealed, where are the BBC reports about a possible Labour split?  Only Nick Robinson will admit on his blog that there are some who don’t support Mr. Brown, and the BBC is not reporting Darling’s latest as what it is:  an attempt to one-up his boss on policy.  When Osborne spoke out of turn, there were cries of “Tory split” from the BBC.  Now, they can’t play down the problems fast enough.

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  21. George R says:

    In its report below, the BBC implies that any ‘racism’ in Italy was not instigated by black Muslim Africans, but by white non-Muslim Italian people:

    “African migrants riot over ‘racist’ attack in Italy”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8447990.stm

    An alternative, non-BBC view:

    “African Muslims riot and burn in Italy”

    http://infidelsunite.typepad.com/counter_jihad/2010/01/african-muslims-riot-and-burn-in-italy.html

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    • deegee says:

      Note the BBC article is illustrated by an Associated Press photograph foregrounding the Italian Riot Police as opposed to the Counter Jihad picture of rioting ‘not stereotypical’ Italians.

      That the BBC bought agency photographs is not remarkable but their picture choice is. They could for example have chosen this not unsupportive photo of a disciplined, organized demonstration (note caption) from the same source.

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  22. Millie Tant says:

    Compared with the report in your second link, the BBC report is very thin, doesn’t give us much detail of the rioting and no idea of the scale of the trouble. You wouldn’t know for example that there were thousands of African Muslim immigrants on the streets.

    Like so much of BBC reporting concerning Muslims or other “special” groups in the BBC’s eyes (African Muslims would be doubly special being both black and Muslim), it does not give a fully informative or complete picture.

    Often this is because they censor information that they themselves have but do not want us to have. Sometimes it may be that they do not have all the details. In this case I would look at other media such as the UK national dailies to see how it is reported by them. That might give a clue as to whether the BBC is playing the censorship game that it so often does.

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  23. Heads on poles says:

    In a week where we have had yet another attempted coup on our Dear Leader, lies about whether we told tha Yanks about the plane bomber, non-gritted roads and further lies about how much we actually owe as a nation,  Any Questions focuses on having a dig at the Conservatives regarding Marriage and tax.
    I have an expensive DAB radio otherwise it would now be in pieces.

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    • Craig says:

      Dan Hannan had to fend off the audience (Labour hirelings, mingled with Respect goons?), Polly Toynbee, that most left-wing of Lib Dems Simon Hughes, dodgy Labour MP Sadiq Khan and, last but not least, Jonathan Dimbleby himself. As you say, it was a blood-boiler of an edition.

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  24. Heads on poles says:

    Good, solid, non-biased BBC reporting.

    David Tennant the well known political heavyweight is interviewed:

    “I would still rather have Gordon Brown than David Cameron,”

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8449895.stm

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    • Scott M says:

      “David Tennant the well known political heavyweight is interviewed”

      To be fair, Doctor Who Magazine doesn’t generally interview political heavyweights.

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  25. Heads on poles says:

    OK, I listen to the BBC for 20 minutes and my blood is boiling.

    Dan Hannan on Any Questions says that he has got rid of his telly and no longer pays his license. He also says that the BBC funding is arcane and should be changed.

    The booing from the audience (or left wing, unwashed vermin IMO) was amazing.

    Then follows a discussion about what good value the BBC is – there must be something in the water.

    I’m turning this cack off now, I’ve had enough.

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  26. Stuart says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8449895.stm

    Given the popularity of this actor (who [excuse the pun] has had his career considerably advanced by the BBC and the licence payer), I feel that is biased without fact – BBC celebrity endorsement reported on the news website.

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  27. David Boycott says:

    Look at this total non-story they have concocted to try and shore up the Labour vote!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8449895.stm

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    • Jack Bauer says:

      “I would still rather have Gordon Brown than David Cameron,” Tennant told the latest edition of Doctor Who magazine. “I would rather have a prime minister who is the cleverest person in the room, than a prime minister who looks good in a suit.”

      #1. Piss off Tennant, an overacting talentless luvvie if ever there was one.  No one cares what you think. 

      #2.If Gordon Brown walked into an empty room he’d still be the dumbest person in there.

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      • Scott M says:

        “Piss off Tennant”

        I see the Biased BBC reputation for faultlessly charming repartee is as iron-clad as ever.

        “an overacting talentless luvvie if ever there was one.”

        Step aside Billington, de Jongh, Spencer: there’s a new theatre critic in town! I’m sure they’re quaking in their boots at the threat posed by the bloke who hides behind the name of an over-the-top US action hero.

        “No one cares what you think”

        Except for the Biased BBCers for whom even someone’s expression of personal opinion they don’t agree with is enough to bring them to the point of aneurysm, of course.

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        • Jack Bauer says:

          Scott M. Pathetic post. Why bother?

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          • Scott M says:

            Are you suggesting I shouldn’t bother what you think?

            You know, that may be the first time I’ve ever agreed with you.

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            • Jack Bauer says:

              No, I’m saying straight up that you are pathetic.

              And here I was assuming you did have half a brain.  Your original post is full of what we call “strawmen”.

              “I see the Biased BBC reputation for faultlessly charming repartee is as iron-clad as ever.”

              Huh? So what? Who died and made you King of the content of BiasedBBC posts.  If charming repartee was any criteria your website would have closed before it opened. As would most of the internet. So, shot and missed there Scottie.

              “Step aside Billington, de Jongh, Spencer: there’s a new theatre critic in town!”

              Huh. First of all Scottie, as you may know, a critic is a man who knows the way but can’t drive the car. 

              Secondly, as I don’t aspire to be a theatre critic what relevance is there to stringing that sentence together in relation to me. Oh, because I passed an opinion on a ham actor. Dahlink, have you seen his work?. 

              But congratulations on being on surname terms with “critics.” I guess that’s very important in your line of work.

              I’m sure they’re quaking in their boots at the threat posed by the bloke who hides behind the name of an over-the-top US action hero.

              Huh?

              #1. See above to my answer on the whole “critic” thing.

              #2. Hides behind a pen name? You mean like many actors and writers?  

              #3 24 is a successful televiosn show that employs many people in front and behind the camera. Including quite a fre Brit Thesps. I would have thought you’d be gung-ho for it.

              Except for the Biased BBCers for whom even someone’s expression of personal opinion they don’t agree with is enough to bring them to the point of aneurysm, of course.

              Huh. You mean somneone like you for whom the expression of a personal opinion about a luvvie with whom they don’t agree is enough to bring you them to the point of aneurysm?

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        • George R says:

          “It’s time to exterminate Tennant from the TV schedules”

          Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1239802/JAN-MOIR-Its-time-exterminate-David-Tennant-TV-schedules.html#ixzz0c919JMKe

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          • Jack Bauer says:

            Ha ha George. Now there’s that repartee Scottie is looking for!

            Time Lord? More like Time Bored or Slime Lord. 

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            • Scott M says:

              “Oh, because I passed an opinion on a ham actor. Dahlink, have you seen his work?”

              Yes. His ability to express emotion is way beyond yours.

              “24 is a successful televiosn show that employs many people in front and behind the camera. Including quite a fre Brit Thesps. I would have thought you’d be gung-ho for it.”

              Oh, I like 24. At times, I love it. One of the highlights of my career has been interviewing former exec producer Jon Cassar, who’s since moved on to other things. I don’t, however, presume that assuming a pseudonym based on that series confers any authority to the person who assumes it.

              “You mean somneone like you for whom the expression of a personal opinion about a luvvie with whom they don’t agree is enough to bring you them to the point of aneurysm?”

              You flatter yourself. It amuses me that a site that criticises other before being biased is itself so full of bias that it renders its own arguments worthless.

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              • Scott M says:

                “a site that criticises other before being biased” should, of course, read “a site that criticises others for being biased”. Knew I shouldn’t have switched auto-correction on with my typing…

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              • George R says:

                Is ’24’ that Fox Network award-winning TV series?

                Didn’t ’24’ eventually yield to pressure from US Muslim group to portray Muslims as nice guys?

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              • Millie Tant says:

                So by your reasoning, as the  BBC is biased, anything it says about bias is worthless. Er…Yeeees! 😛

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                • Scott M says:

                  Forgive me. When you asked “Didn’t ’24’ eventually yield to pressure from US Muslim group to portray Muslims as nice guys?” I thought your framing it as a rhetorical question implied you knew what you were talking about.

                  Obviously, I was wrong, and should have known better. For that, I apologise.

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                  • George R says:

                    Are you apologetically ignoring the questions again? Or just being presumptuously rhetorical in your insults?

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              • Jack Bauer says:

                Hey Scottie luvvie… 

                I see you are still posting incomprehensible strawman arguments. And for some odd stalkerish reason, they involve me.  I see schlock and bore is your shtick.

                I wouldn’t mind if your posts had even a scintilla of wit. Alas — no.  No wit but a shovel load of shit. 

                First you start out, uninvited, making a weird attack based around your claim that I (and this blog) don’t reach the level of repartee of the average theatre critic — that’s a standard?  Yo, Scottie, that’s a plus.

                Now apparently I don’t reach the “emotional” range of a hack actor paid to pretend to be someone he is not.  

                Again, classic strawman argument, and dude, who cares? And let’s face it, Tennant is no William Hartnell when it comes to emotional range. In fact, he’s not even close to K-9.  Woof woof.

                Gosh — your method is so, so… childish.  

                And, luvvie, if the highlight of your career is interviewing a TV producer, you need to find another career.

                FREE HINT: if your are going attempt to “fisk” a post (as I did so effectively to your childishly idiotic original answer to my witty advice to Tennant) it’s best to actually answer the points made, and not make weird, off-point, unfunny ad hominem attacks on the poster.

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                • Scott M says:

                  Love how replying to a comment of yours makes me a stalker.

                  And also how my comment is somehow an ad hominem attack, but yours isn’t.

                  Brilliant, truly brilliant.

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                  • Jack Bauer says:

                    No Scottie, luvvie, – it is making silly strawman comments which elevate me to a wannabee “theatre critic” or an “actor” that makes you a stalkerish oddball.

                    As to “ad homs,” you started it dear. I don’t turn the other cheek. Something Ken Tynan would have appreciated.

                    I throw in Ken and his buttock obsession because I know you have a thing for luvvie crits.

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                    • Scott M says:

                      And again with the “stalkerish”. Do you actually know what that word means? Or are you repeating it in the hope that it actually becomes true?

                      “I throw in Ken and his buttock obsession because I know you have a thing for luvvie crits”

                      And there was I, thinking that you were doing it to turn Martin on. You needn’t bother: all he needs at the moment is the merest thought of Vaseline, but I’m sure he’d appreciate your efforts.

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  28. deegee says:

    The BBC has managed a double header. Global Warming and Education in the same article. Will a trifecta of Global Warming, Education and Israel be far behind?

    Just like the difference between the climate and the weather, there are long-term and short-term trends in education.

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    • Guest says:

      They really are trying to equate the causes and/or effects of these two disparate entities?

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  29. Jack Bauer says:

    Mark Steyn spots the sort of useful information the BBC declines to see.

    What did the Pantybomber have a membership card in? Well, he was president of the Islamic Society of University College, London. 


    Kafeel Ahmed, who died after driving a burning jeep into the concourse of Glasgow Airport, had been president of the Islamic Society of Queen’s University, Belfast. 


    Yassin Nassari, serving three years in jail for terrorism, was president of the Islamic Society of the University of Westminster. 


    Waheed Arafat Khan, arrested in the 2006 Heathrow terror plots that led to Americans having to put their liquids and gels in those little plastic bags, was president of the Islamic Society of London Metropolitan University.

    I do hope Plod and MI Plod is watching the CURRENT heads of those august and venerable organizations.  They could be on to something.

    Oh — is that too much like Mohammedan “profiling”?

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  30. deegee says:

    Strange BBC headline. Migrants evacuated from southern Italian town Evacuated suggests they were removed for their own safety. Arrested and then detained before deportation seems a more accurate description.

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  31. Will says:

    The BBC is a sacred cow second only to the NHS in this lefty’s universe

    http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2010/01/defaced-poster-1.html

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  32. Jonathan Fry says:

    Strange.  The BBC had their article on the Peter Watt revelations hidden on the Politics page a couple of hours ago.  Now for some reason it’s completely disappeared.

    All the other major media organisations have it splashed up as a major story.

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    • Guest says:

      Strange like foxes, the BBC!

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      • Guest says:

        Just another bit of silliness, I am sure.

        Now what from a few years ago can be dredged up from other sources to help with objective news coverage, one wonders?

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  33. deegee says:

    Source unknown.

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  34. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Credit where due, the BBC reports the truth about an Israeli air strike on Gaza.

    Israel air strike kills Gaza militants

    Never mind that their source is, as usual, Palestinian and no other.  The BBC actually reported not only that they were militants and in an area from which Palestinians like to launch their rockets at Israel, but they were members of a jihad group.

    However.

    How much does anyone want to bet that in the next overview report about the conflict in which the BBC rolls out that body count – to remind everyone of the casualty imbalance – the Beeboids will forget to mention that these guys were jihadi militants and count them as simple “Palestinians”?

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  35. George R says:

    BBC not up to speed on this.

    CNN report:

    “UK to ban controversial Islamist group”

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/10/uk.islamist.ban/index.html

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