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  1. David Preiser (USA) says:
    August 12, 2010 at 11:04 pm

    A few more names have been added to the number of confirmed JournoListas.  One of them, Karen Tumulty, is from (where else?) the Washington Post and TIME, both known to be infested with them.

    To follow Craig’s example, here’s a BBC article from July 2009 (when the JournoList was in full swing) where Tumulty’s opinion is referenced:

    Obama applauds ‘health milestone’

    US opinions presented by the BBC:

    Karen Tumulty – JournoList
    Dick Morris – ex-Clinton insider, now Fox News contributor and favorite of some conservatives because he criticizes and dishes on Hillary
    Jonathan Cohn – JournoList
    Steve Benen – JournoList and Katie Connolly twitter buddy

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    • Craig says:
      August 13, 2010 at 6:10 am

      Karen Tumulty (who Katie Connolly follows on Twitter) is no surprise. As I wrote on an old Open Thread, “The third person quoted is Karen Tumulty of ‘Time’, who isn’t YET on the JournOList, but who followed their script by playing the race card.”    
      http://biasedbbc.tv/2010/08/open-thread.html#comments

      Here’s an article from Newsbusters that shows how the JournOListers seem to have co-ordinated another defence of Obama’s Healthcare proposals. The piece stars Karen Tumulty, Joe Klein and….(well click and see!!):
      http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2009/12/17/newsweeks-connolly-daddy-obama-needs-get-congresskids-line

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        August 13, 2010 at 1:48 pm

        You’re right!  I forgot you caught Tumulty already.  We’re getting closer to the original Beeboid JournoLister each time now. Since Connolly is too new to the BBC to qualify as an active JournoLister while working for them, it must be whoever brought her in.

        Which may lead us back to your original suspicion: Max Deveson.  It’s almost worth my actually signing up on the awful thing just to look at people’s lists and such.  Whoever it is will appear on their “follow” lists, and can be mapped out.

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        • Craig says:
          August 13, 2010 at 8:03 pm

          David, we definitely have the scent! I think we can now be certain of JournOListas at the BBC. But how many?

          It partly depends on when Max Deveson changed jobs. The evidence for him being our man (or one of them) is pretty strong. But was he alone before the arrival of Katie Connolly & co? It would help to find out exactly when he changed from his online Washington posting to his new role in the BBC’s Political Unit? (That’s something I’m trying to find out.) And who is that anonymous beeboid who keeps quoting JournOListas (whoever it is must be a JournOLista.)

          On Twitter. bias-hunting is the only reason I signed up on it!!! I will never tweet!

          Sadly Max Deveson is not on Twitter. Tweets from him would have been worth examining. I was reading through his Obama First 100 Days Diary entries. Pure JournOLism from start to finish.

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:
            August 13, 2010 at 8:34 pm

            I thought all the Beeboids with a public profile were told to do twitter?  Still, no matter which one of them was at the BBC first, if some poor bastard was to spend time digging up all the known Journolistas referenced, tweeted, or “followed” or whatever, by a BBC employee, that can all be plotted on a chart and the connections will be revealed.  Somebody will inevitabley be revealed as a sort of hub, and that would be the prime suspect.

            The next amusing question would be:  who hired the rest of them, and were they recruited via JournoList connections?  I believe we already know that a couple of these new ones were already friends with Katie Connolly.  Who brought her in?

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  2. George R says:
    August 12, 2010 at 11:26 pm

    While Islam Not BBC (INBBC) propagandises for British people and government to donate, re-Pakistan floods, ‘Jihadwatch’ has:

    Pakistan flooding: Aid officials note “the absence of substantial commitments from the Gulf states”

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    • Cassandra King says:
      August 13, 2010 at 5:29 am

      Is the BBC actively trying to discredit and sabotage the Pakistani government?
      The BBC pimped critisisms of the Pakistani president and his government is increasing everyday.
      The BBC gave prime airtime to a ‘charity’ called ‘islamic relief UK’ fronted by a very shifty and nasty looking individual, I can only wonder what their attitude is to the jihad and the Afghan war, thankfully the British public are not keen to put their hands in their pockets and only the hostile colonists are sending money but then again the hostile colonists have been funding the islamic jihad for years.

      The BBC continue to ignore the positive contribution of the monsoonal floods, the Pakistani agricultural system depends on the regular flooding of fields to regenerate them with silt from the mountains and without it vast areas would soon become baron and unfarmable.
      Huge areas are in fact unafected and food production cycles has always taken the floods into account and when the floods subside the farmers can expect a bumper harvest for the next few years on the back of the revitalisation of the soils.
      For some strange reason the BBC seem unable or inwilling to eplain the positive aspects of the monsoonal floods, I wonder why?
      The BBC also seem to have forgotten their alarmist propaganda of previous years when they blamed AGW for light monsoons of past years unable to comprehend that the monsoons opperate on cycles with some years light and other years heavy.
      So all in all the floods have set the scene for a boom in Pakistani agriculture with yields bound to rise with a regenerated soil. The BBC seem unable to state exactly how much arable land has been flooded, how much is now available and how quickly the flooded land can be reclaimed and used to produce food again, they seem unable to bring us the real story and the positive aspects, I wonder why?
      The BBC loves their favoured disasters, they concentrate their huge resources on it and flog it to death while ignoring other stories, they are the vultures of the media world.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        August 13, 2010 at 1:52 pm

        You’re giving the Beeboids too much credit here.  With them, the motivation is usually purely emotional and little else.  In this case, I suspect they’re painting the Pakistani government as incapable simply to hype up the sob story and make people send more money. 
         
        I bet the Beeboids think they’re helping a worthy cause by doing so, and feel better about themselves for it.

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