Did you catch Red Ed Miliband’s debut on the BBC, his party’s broadcasting arm, this morning? With Dame Polly Toynbee watching on – it was fun to watch the rather geeky Red Ed demonstrate a lamentable grasp of the mood of the British people. However, on topic, I thought that Andrew Marr was very accommodating to Red Ed and he was given an easy ride with the primary focus being about how his brother David felt. Touchy-feely stuff that avoids the big political challenges and conspicuously does not pursue the fact that Red Ed is leader BECAUSE of the Trade Unions. Then again, the BBC are also one of the last bastions of admiration for hard left Unions. We can anticipate Ed Miliband being afforded maximum publicity from the BBC in the time ahead and I am certain he will quickly become the most popular political leader that the BBC has ever known.
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Moreover there are a full suite of articles on BBC online inviting us to get to know “Ed the Red”.
Cranmer:
“Ed Miliband wins – a damning indictment of AV”
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2010/09/ed-miliband-wins-damning-indictment-of.html
Also from Cranmer (yesterday), but presumably not to be discussed by INBBC:
“Daveward – a Jew will lead the Labour Party”
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/2010/09/daveward-jew-will-lead-labour-party.html
I said that Marr would give Red Ed a veral hand job and do he did.
Red Andy AKA wingnut is good at verbal masturbation, only his ideological soulmates of course. Later they show each other their collection of miners solidarity/CND/smash capitalism badges.
Two Marxist fruitcakes but both sent to the finest no expense spared top of the range rich mans schooling, only the best for these Marxists and only what you would expect from a two faced double standards keep it in the family dynasty Marxist asshole collective.
Hey did you really think the Marxist elite demand equal of state education for all actually applied to themselves? Naaaah! Only the best is good enough for the comrade leader class.
The damage limitation / propaganda campaign was obviously well prepared and ready to go, because it even kicked in on the R4 news at 7.00 this morning. The newsreader (which bimbo, she?) solemnly intoned something like “….however the Conservatives have suggested that his victory was in large part due to union votes….”. It was repeated on the 8.00 bulletin.
The Conservatives have suggested? The most cursory reading of the figures (H/T to His Grace Cranmer) shows clearly that Mili-D was the preference of the MPs, the MEPs and the individual members, and that he was ahead through the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd ballots, but that Red Ed’s victory was delivered by the votes of hin union puppet-masters.
So already the beeboids are trying both to deflect attention from the true source of Red Ed’s crucial support, and portray it as a Conservative-originating fiction.
Hardly surprising though – with a Labour leader whose grandfather fought in support of Stalin, whose father penned in support of Marx, and who himself campaigns in support of Gramsci, they have got the leader of their dreams.
“….however the Conservatives have suggested that his victory was in large part due to union votes….”. It was repeated on the 8.00 bulletin.
The usual BBC wording is “labour says the world is flat, the tories CLAIM that it is round”
Ed claimed that one of his main differences from the Blair-Brown Government is the issue of inequality yet when Marr asked him about whether or not he supported a universal benefits system in which the same cash benefits go to everyone regardless of income he said he did. Needless to say, the logical contradiction between the two positions was not explored. As Walter Mondale might say,
“Where’s the beef?”
” We can anticipate Ed Miliband being afforded maximum publicity from the BBC in the time ahead “.
Even as I read your piece, the news came on the radio, lead by…the thoughts of chairman ed !!!
Even serious labour voters must be embarrassed and fatigued by the saturation coverage of labour’s boring leadership election. According to the BBC we can brush the last 13 years disaster under the carpet and start again.
What political issue is driving most Beeboids at present?:
-Making sure that their BBC-NUJ-BECTU strike is timed to black out their (and Red Ed’s) Tory opposition conference –
“Threat to Tories in BBC strike”
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=515483
Yes the BBC are spinning the Liebour splits. They are sneering that the Tories are saying ‘splits’ but the BBC are happy to promote non existent splits themselves when referring to the coalition.
So Ed the Red gets shoed in on the ‘serf vote’ wielded by Union barons against the wishes of the actual Labour Party membership and its MP’s. But then, that’s just what the Tories say and ‘right wing’ sites like this. Thanks for the heads-up BBC, no need to look at the facts now.
I must admit I’m mystified by Eds election. Can anyone remember him attacking the Tories at any point in the last few years ? He appears to have been Brown’s right hand man flinging the muck at anyone inside the Labour party who dared to challenge Brown but little else. His brother David appeared to have little talent and had been massively over promoted but did appear on TV from time to time attacking Cameron.
He might be an objectionable personality but at least Balls has been having a go at the Government over the last few weeks.
I didn’t watch the interview but I’m not surprised to hear how it went.
Marr is more left than Red Ed and probably had a semi throughout the interview.
So balanced isn’t it?
Red Ed and Red Marr probably shred a jar of man jelly afterwards
I had to laugh when I read the comments in Have your Say. Vast majoirty were off message from what Beeb wanted so needless to say the link disappeared from front page in double quick time. Still can’t find it.. 😎 Once again Beeb and Labour are not ‘getting it’
Sky News did a vox pop in Manchester. Basically Liebour can’t be trusted and Red Ed is beholdant to the Unions.
I’m betting a BBC vox pop will claim Red Ed is the white Obama.
Martin, the BBC’s Politics Show also sent a reporter to get “the view from the streets of Manchester” – “lifelong Labour supporter” Terry Christian.
He and his carefully chosen vox-pops didn’t reckon much to Ed either, but only because Ed wasn’t anywhere near left-wing enough for them and almost a Tory in their eyes.
Trust the Politics Shows to give us a far-left polemic!
It will be worth watching to see if they allow a right-winger to present a polemical report next week when they are at the Tory Party conference? It would be the least an impartial BBC could do. So they probably won’t.
The Tory conference will need left wing commentators to unravel the possible splits therin and with the LibDems. The labour conference will need left wing commentators to explain how the party is unifying behind the greatest leafer and thinker of his generation, a politician who despite being in the last few cabinets had no responsibility for the disasters of that government.
Standard of the BBC to attack from the left.
Over the last few days we have had Jackie Ashleys views-she is Andrew Marrs “wife”-Will Straw(Jacks spliffy son!) Ben Wright(Tony Wrights son) all discussing the “New red dawn”now Mister Ed has been wafted in with multiple votes from the unions. A return to businesses having the same privilege as of old perhaps?
The Beeb and its handmaids at the broadsheets and Channel 4 are beside themselves-a lavender fop with clean fingernails and NO experience of ever meeting one of the workers has been crowned Dauphin by Lord Longfords niece. Up the workers indeed!
Looking forward to this bullshit bandwaggon tipping at the first bend…with Marr, Fry and O`Briain all wittily telling us that nasty Thatch is gonna get us if we don`t beg for Blair again!
What a load of Dhimmiwits!
Good point. I was listening to John Pinhead tonight and it was left wing think tanks and Guardian hacks all the way. I don’t think I’ve seen to much of fat Polly’s ugly mug.
Thing is I can’t think of too many Tory voices being sought out for an opinion on the BBC. BUT ,assuming the lazy scum at the BBC do cover the Tory conference, Ill take a bet right now with anyone that we ill get plenty of alternative Liebour views. I seem to remember the BBC have done this at previous Tory conferences.
Going back to Pinhead he allowed Alan Johnson to spout crap about Tory cuts again. Johnson was allowed to spin the lie that Liebour were going to tell us their cuts in the spending review if they’d won the election. Of course Pinhead should have picked Johnson up on this as we know Liebour booted the spending review down the line because they knew they were going to lose the election and many of the wasteful projects they’d promised money for hadn’t actually been budgeted for AND as we know things were so bad the Civil Service actually wrote to Ministers demanding written confirmation as this was seen as reckless.
The BBC of course have erased this from memory. Who can remember the last time the BBC referred to this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8690312.stm
In fact Pinhead should HAVE remembered this for one very good reason.
Mr Baume, general secretary of the First Division Association which represents senior civil servants, told BBC Radio 5 Live’s chief political correspondent John Pienaar: “When a permanent secretary asks for their letter of direction from a minister, it is because they feel that a serious decision is being taken, which they feel is not right.
HMG has been on the back foot because the person across the box was a paper tiger. Now there is someone in office Dave can bash them with Liebore’s record.
If the BBC is such a pain why do you watch it? Nobody else does….. 😉
I watch it because I’m forced to pay for it. Stop me paying for it and the BBC can do what it likes. Whilst I am forced to pay for it I want to see it so what it’s supposed to do, REPORT the news in an unbiased way.
Tonight’s BBC news. A lot of talk about Miliband, E but not one government spokesman did I hear putting their opinion forward. A fair bit of what Nick Robinson et al say his opponents will do (calling him Red Ed etc) but we knew all that already, so there’s no point the BBC trying to hide it. But what do the Tories have to say TODAY, the day after Ed becomes leader? No idea. Is it credible that they decided just to let Ed have his day in the spotlight?
This ties in with Martin’s point above. At Labour conferences, it’s been noticeable in recent years that only Labour guests are invited on to comment. Whereas when it comes to the Tories turn, people from all parties are allowed on. If I could be bothered searching I’m sure I’d find exactly this point being raised here last year and it will happen again this year. Unless there’s no Tory conference broadcast because they’ve gone on strike.
For the hundreth time, when are the Tories going to find the balls to do something about it? Because until they do, I hope they get a bloody good kicking from the BBC.
“For the hundreth time, when are the Tories going to find the balls to do something about it?”
I am also trying work out what they are waiting for. One of these must be the actual explanation >>>
1.Maybe they think they have got 5 years to do something and there’s no rush.
2. They want to do something but are frightened and don’t know exactly what to do.
3. They actually enjoy being screwed and stitched up by the BBC.
4. Maybe they don’t read this website and haven’t realised what the BBC has been doing for the last 20 plus years.
5. They don’t give a monkeys about anything as long as they get their pay and pensions and are just as happy in opposition.
Any more suggestions anyone ?
In their minds, they can’t separate BBC News from the Proms, the documentaries, the costume dramas, and Dr. Who. This is why it’s ultimately dangerous to have an official state broadcaster with a connection to the public spanning generations.
The Tories are simply used to being atacked by the BBC.
I just wish they would do something it is so frustrating having to see the BBC go unchallenged year after year.
If you accept that BBC bias actually costs votes for the conservatives then their apparent lack of action is difficult to comprehend.
I think it is No 2.
>>Any more suggestions anyone ?<<
A lack of moral courage and moral vision.
… Which I guess is 2!
They know that the BBC is very popular. In fact it is a beloved institution.
David Cameron is not going to jeopardise his and his government’s acceptability and electability by being seen as the scourge of the BBC.
They know that the BBC is guaranteed its “independent” status and they do not want to be portrayed as government interfering with its editorial independence.
There are some very clever people in the government and they must know what is going on but I believe it is received wisdom among politicians that broadcasters and the press are a hazard of the job and something you must put up with as best you can, while of course attempting to use and manipulate them as much as possible for your own purposes. Complaining about them is like complaining about the weather.
I recall two years ago the coverage of the Labour and Tory conferences on their news website.
Myself and others noticed how, during Labour’s conference, the politics front page was given over entirely to pro Labour /anti Tory news stories. It really was a Tory free website that week.
Yet a week later, during the Tory conference, the BBC suddenly remembered the need for “balance” and ensured there were plenty of anti Tory / pro Labour headlines on the same politics front page so that they couldn’t be accused of having a Labour free website.
I bet if asked, the BBC would have insisted that because Labour were the Government, it was only right that they gave heavier coverage to the party in power. I’d also bet that this year they won’t be wanting to give the parties in power the heavier coverage.
I think Beeb Bias Craig and I blogged on this last year.
As well as seeing the fair Jane wetting herself on BBC1 News at Ten tonight with the news that Mr Ed is still party leader, BBC local “news where you are” in London gave Ken 30-50% of its allotted time to celebrate – again – his coronation as Labour’s mayoral candidate. Tonight he was shown, first embracing Mr Ed (now there’s a serious weirdo: if any other person was as uncomfortable as Ed in his own skin and had that mad look in his eyes he’d be given a sedative and told to report to the nearest psychiatrist) and then interviewed by a friendly BBC “journalist” at the Labour party conference (“Do you agree with Ed? Yes – whatever Ed says is fine by me. Thank you Mr Livingstone and what about those Tory cuts eh? – shocking isn’t it? – now back to the studio.”).
What a shock. The Guardian is going on about Lord Ashcroft again and guess what? Yep the BBC are doing a Panorama special on Lord Ashcroft.
As I predicted, now Liebour has a new leader, the BBC and the Guardian will go all out to try to smear the coalition.
Pathetic BBC, pathetic.
But Lord Ascroft has resigned. And you cannot realy blame him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/8011043/Lord-Ashcroft-delivers-tough-verdict-on-Conservative-election-failings.html
Any day now we’ll get a hard-hitting Panorama undercover investigation into the tax affairs of some of the Labour Party’s non-domicile donors
In celebration of the latest round of peace talks between Israel and one Palestinian faction (if we’re honest about it), a bunch of useful Jews are doing a Peace Flotilla II.
Jewish activists sail to Gaza in defiance of blockade
I won’t bother quoting any of it, as you can all guess how it reads. No surprises at all, although Israel does get two little soundbites as the last word. This is supposed to balance out a Holocaust survivor and the father of a victim of a suicide/mass murder bomber each stating that the Gazans’ victimhood is the moral equivalent of their own.
This Useful Flotilla has been organized by the UK-based “Jews for Justice for Palestinians”. The BBC curiously failed to mention a “leading member” of this organization, one Marion Kozak. Could the fact that she’s the mother of the new Labour leader have anything to do with this omission?
I was going to ask why the BBC hasn’t done a special report recognizing that Labour now has its first Jewish leader (Ed’s parents are identified as Jews in the profile, but that’s it), a mere 150 or so years after the Conservative Party broke that barrier, especially since they have no problem pointing out who was the first Muslim Labour MP, or Labour’s first Muslim peer. But now I think I know the reason.
Could it be that our islamic hostile colonists would not vote for a Jew? Yes the self appointed ‘community leaders’ who control the block vote of their feifdoms will know that a Jew leads the labour party but if it became widely known among the rank and file hostile colonists that they were being told to vote for a Jew then it may reduce the long relied on islamist vote.
Perhaps thats why the BBC are not keen to celebrate the first ever non native British leader of the labour party. I thought the BBC were dead keen on celebrating inclusion and multicultural advances?
The new labour leader is in fact a second generation immigrant born to foreign Jewish parents, you would have thought that the BBC would be shouting that from the rooftops 😀 .
Ssssshhhhhh! dont mention the Jew immigrants made good eh? 😉
‘Jews for Justice for Palestinians’? Lets hope when Israel boards they force them to confront evidence of the police state tyranny Palestinians live under under Hamas and the PLO, and ask them what they’re doing about justice for Palestinians over this? The Schmuckdetector will go into overload when these anti-Semite loving Jews approach the motherland.
The BBC toady interviews Alistair Darling and its a veritable hand job of a pro labour ego massage by Montague as usual.
Remember the economic collapse directly caused by labour in the 1970s? leading to a tory regime elected to pick up the pieces? It seems the BBC forgets the labour contribution but never forgets the tory contribution of cleaning up the wasteland.
Remember the economic depression of 2008/2009 casued in large part by labour economic policies enacted by Brown and Darling? It seems the BBC have again forgotten labours direct contribution and again are starting their sustained offensive against the tory regimes efforts to clear up the mess left by the last labour regime.
A collective amnesia descends on the BBC where the past is lost completely in a man made fog. Where the BBC has a clear and long memory where the tories are concerned they have a blind spot for labour.
Darling and Brown presided over an economic collapse, their policies directly contributed and led the UK into gigantic and crippling debts and their policies regarding the UK banks are known to have deepened the recession immensely. The BBC however remember nothing of this, the labour past is one of rosy hope and skools’N’hospitals and investment and cautious fiscal sense, it was a wonderland of the selective memory.
The BBC have been dragging up the 1991 events and the 1980s for years, and they never let go of the past, their collective memory is pin sharp and they never forget anything that could damage the tories.
Well its back to the 1980s again isnt it? Forget the cause but remember the remedy!
The BBC is Labour’s Ministry of Truth.
Brown is almost single-handedly responsible for causing the global meltdown when, as chancellor he granted the city their holy grail of light-touch regulation.
Almost 5 years later and the BBC has never admitted the extent of Brown’s guilt in this.
The BBC isn’t there to ‘admit’ anything in this regard, its there to examine contentions of note and importance from both sides of the argument. Of course, if Labour stands to lose an argument hands down, this ‘examination’ wont take place.
You could add that Brown screwed everything up by dividing the job of keeping the banks in line between 3 separate bodies – result – no clear line of responsibility. Brown should never have taken the sole responsibility away from the Bank of England.
Interesting that Sky were talking about the ‘split’ in the Liebour party (because it was the three big unions that elected Red Ed) but with the BBC it’s “We’ll keep ther red flag flying…” all the way.
People don’t like the idea of unelected union leaders trying to run things.
They had some Labour activists and a Labour councillor from Bolton giving their opinions on Chairman Ed to Sarah Montague on the Today Programme earlier.
The labour councillor, when asked if he had any concerns about how far to the left Ed is, replied: and I swear I am not making this up “… the left has more love.”
What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Did Stalin, Mao, Pot et al all have ‘more love??’
Well they loved murdering people!
I wish he’d take those hard-boiled sweets out of his mouth before speaking!
Another reason why Beeboids like ‘Red Ed’:
no family values.
While Mr. Crick has a new-found admiration for the Miliband bros’ Marxist father, Ed Miliband has a peculiarly distorted view of parenthood himself whereby he excludes himself from his child’s birth certificate, which is not in the interests of his child, and gives a ludicrous meaning to ‘equality’ for parents!
“So will Ed Miliband now marry the mother of his son? (And why isn’t he on the birth certificate)”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315495/Will-Ed-Miliband-marry-mother-son.html#ixzz10jMNvHBT
And, of course, another key reason why BBC-NUJ is giving Red Ed such preferential political treatment this fortnight is because he is soft on the trade unions (which in self interest voted for him), and he goes along with the imminent anti-Tory conference, BBC-NUJ strike:
‘Daily Mail’-
“Last rites for New Labour: Ed Miliband tilts party sharply to left by backing higher taxes and refusing to condemn unions.”
[Extract]:-
“Interviewed by the BBC’s Andrew Marr, Ed Miliband suggested he favoured still higher taxes – including further levies on banks – to mitigate the need for public spending cuts.
“Asked to condemn the first in what is expected to be a series of public sector strikes – a walkout by BBC staff timed to hit the Tory conference next week – he declined.
“‘I’m not going to adjudicate on every strike,’ he said. ‘The right to strike is an important thing. The BBC people have got to make their own decision about what they are going to do.’”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315466/Ed-Miliband-tilts-Labour-party-left-refusing-condemn-unions.html#ixzz10jOncDD6
I cannot believe what I have just heard on the BBC R2 News. The lead item was David Milliband praising his brother, unite the party blah blah blah. Then immediately followed by an item about how Lord Ashcroft avoided paying £3m tax by transferring ownership to his kids. How blatantly biased was that???
Apparently it was a Panorama investigation. Wonder if they have done an investigation into Lord Paul and the other Labour peers. It has really made me angry but people who dont realise the bias of the BBC will not catch on as to why these two items were aired together.
On Today both Darling and Simpson instanced Ireland as an economic failure and a warning to the UK of the dangers of cutting too far too fast. Not once did any BBC “journalist” point out that – even were the “too far, too fast” accusation true – there is a difference between us and Ireland: we still retain our own currency (thanks – purely by luck rather than judgement – to Brown’s refusal to do anything in the field of finance which Blair really wanted) . Ignoring this fairly vital fact does, of course, feed the BBC/Labour “too far, too fast” narrative on the (non)cuts and is another piece of evidence of BBC journalistic incompetence and bias.
BTW I’ve never hear Montagu being as giggly as she was when she was “interviewing” Simpson. You’d think (and you’d be right) that their opinions on the world were completely ad idem and that this “interview” was more akin to an intimate conversation over a lavish dinner (paid for either by the taxpayer or those poor saps in Unite natch) than a determined search for truth (not that Today is ever guilty of that where Labour is concerned).
I listened to the Today programme this morning between 8:00 and 8:30. Mostly about Ed Miliband, which was to be expected. The main interview was at 8:10 with Derek Simpson of Unite.
I thought perhaps after that interview we might get a Government take on the matter. Nope. Just Nick Robinson’s musings. So it occurred to me that since I’d only listened to part of the programme, I’d probably missed the point where a Tory or Lib Dem was given a chance to air their views. Well, checking todays running order, we see:
6:15 Banks, trade tensions and the housing market
6:48 The issues that Ed Miliband needs to understand if he is really to “get” the problems facing the party.
7:09 The reaction from the Palestinian community on building Jewish settlements.
7:14 Deborah Mattinson, of polling company Britain Thinks, gives her analysis of the political reality the new Labour leader needs to come to terms with. That’ll be Deborah Mattinson, Gordon Brown’s personal pollster?
7:18 Sarah Montague talks to David Miliband
7:21 The Irish economy
7:33 Alistair Darling outlines his hopes for the continuation of his own policy.
7:44 The first point of contact for aliens trying to communicate with earth.
7:50 The Equality and Human Rights Commission re the torture of suspects who are held abroad.
8:10 Derek Simpson
8:20 Bribing people to lose weight in the NHS
8:30 Jeremy Bowen outlines how the end of the moratorium will be perceived by the Palestinian community.
8:39 Tariq Ali, a friend of the Milibands, discusses whether their relationship will survive the pressure.
8:43 The morality of having an affair.
8:50 How police and probation officers in the UK have already begun trying new ways of preventing re-offending.
8:55 Journalists Matthew D’Ancona and Polly Toynbee debate the future of the Labour party.
So, a Tory-free zone then, just as I had suspected.
They really aren’t bothering to try now. And the Tories continue to sit back and take it. They really are pathetic.
Yep the Tories get all they deserve.
Adam Boulton on Sky News talking about the Liebour party being split over the election of Red Ed. Funny thing is on the BBC, the only time splits get mentioned is with the Tories.
The Liebour party got a leader they didn’t want. Very amusing.
Last one worked out well, though.. didn’t he?
Welll, maybe not for the country.
Or the party for that matter.
But for the BBC… golden!
If… unique.