Did you catch this BBC interview with one of the guys that have been hacking into various websites such as Visa, Paypal, etc in an attempt to bring them down in order to show support for Julian Assange? The tone is one of ADMIRATION for these cyber criminals. I wonder if BBC servers were being targeted would we get the same swooning towards the hackers?
ADMIRING DIRECT ACTION…
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Yes, there’s a strong political affinity between how the Wikileaks people operate, and how BBC-NUJ-1968 people operate:
-they all support the over-riding of the democratic process when it politically suits them – whether by Wikileaks, students, Hezbollah, Hamas or UAF.
When the University of East Anglia website lost all the climate e-mails we were told they could not tell us becuse it was hacked and therefore illegal, its stange how they have suddenly decided that this is to be admired.
They also seem to have missed the fact that the climategate data and emails should have been part of FOI anyway and is somewhat different to emails that could threaten people’s lives, national security and are secret for a good reason.
Secrets for a good reason? It’s just Diplomatic gossip, it’s a load of bollocks that embarrasses government…
Have you read all the Wikileaks the minutest of detail?
As far as I know ddos attacks are not actually hacking but flooding a website until it shuts down, a form of cyber-anarchism. Visa, PayPal, Amazon are services which have every right to deny those services when they see fit to do so, so if they want to deny you giving money to Wikileaks they have a right to do this. Cyberattacks are not “online campaigning” they are, or should be, treated as either malicious damage or even cyber-terrorism. No wonder the BBC has a soft spot for this sort of “online campaigning”.
Damn those Take That fans that cause a huge denial of service attack when they go buying tickets for the latest gig…
The TODAY programme is ‘on-air’ terrorism.
I will not be using Paypal and Amazon again after being a customer since the start of both.
As all my emails/phonecalls and Internet traffic are monitored by the powers that be I see no reason why theirs should be secret.
Nothing to hide nothing to fear.
“Nothing to hide nothing to fear.”
The west is always in a cold war with the enemies of the west. That’s why we have secret services and secret communications. You cannot unilaterally give away your secret communications to the enemy. I don’t agree with what our governments do on a great many issues (EU, global government etc) but to think there’s “Nothing to hide nothing to fear.” is naive.
“As all my emails/phonecalls and Internet traffic are monitored by the powers that be”
There’s plenty of Internet traffic that I would like monitored by the powers that be, especially some U.K. residents who I’ve come accross that support violent jihad, murder, advocate & support terrorism, terrorist organisations on YouTube. It’s surprising how many there are.
DDOS attacks are unequivocally against the law and liable to prosecution under UK law.
I personally wish to clarify that I am not advocating or taking part in such activity and I fully expect to be hearing of the prosecutions of those that take part in such activities or those that encourage it, if that extends to even some who are posting here or to the bBC then so be it.
Or those that encourage it?
Will BBC-NUJ support China in this?:-
“China steps up anti-Nobel campaign by blocking BBC website”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8190506/China-steps-up-anti-Nobel-campaign-by-blocking-BBC-website.html
After all, China fulfils BBC-NUJ political criteria in that:
1.) China is a ‘socialist’ country;
2.) China can therefore rightly over-ride the democratic process, like Wikileaks.
I think there’s a risk of becoming holier than thou on this subject. How many of us would be complain about DDOS attacks on the BBC and other pro-EU or pro-Global Warming sites? I wouldn’t, because democracy has simply ceased to work in these areas, and direct action is necessary.
That said, I would expect to be interviewed robustly by the BBC were I to take part in it, and that singularly failed to happen in this morning’s interview.
The worst thing about this is it isn’t “hacking” as such. In computer circles these people are referred to as “script kiddies” they are usually teenage boys without a lot of technical ability who download a free program that does the nasty stuff over the internet. The only technical knowedge required is the ability to type a web address into a text box.
Oh my goodness, is this one of those editions of TODAY edited by a guest ‘famous for 15 minutes’ celeb? Sorry, silly me, the standard of maturity would have been far higher if that was the case.
Well said, David V. Imagine the outcry if one of these heroic hackers got hold of the Balen Report and the NY Times published it. Hypocrites, the lot of them.
Having fun flicking between BBC/SKY coverage of the protests.
Is it just me or are there far more red flags and swp banners on sky’s coverage?
Sky are showing stand offs and crowd surges whereas BBC are showing well behaved, sparse groups of people. It could be two different protests.
That is not new, all of the stuff that appeared in the press over the first violent protests, including the mong who threw the fire extinguisher were shot by Sky not the BBC.
Sky also showed the injured coppers, the BBC show ‘injured’ student scum.
They asked Kuenssberg (sp.) how the vote was going to go, she started normally but then exploded into a rant atacking the government. Now the headlines are “The Police blame protesters for the violence”. Trying to make out it is a police opinion, rather than the facts that have been seen by thousands.
Our friend Julian may not appreciate the heroic efforts by assorted luvvies, hackers and the media on his behalf.
It does not seem to have dawned on many that the safest place for him to be is tucked up in a nice warm British cell.
Who knows who he has seriously annoyed. There are some very nasty people and organisations in this world.
I don’t know why we have to host him or how these sorts of troublemakers always seem to land on our doorstep. Have his arrival here or the terms of his stay been disclosed in the media? Can’t the government send him back to Australia?
Whatever you may think of Wikileaks, it surely cannot be right for a British court to allow a man to be extradited for the “crime” of failing to use a condom when having consensual sex with a girlfriend of some years standing?
Hey, Graham, talk to the Swedish lawmakers who put that on the books. Then talk to the feminist activists who got them to do it.
The last 10 seconds of the interview sums the whole thing up for me…
BBC Gimp – “What are your politics”
Spotty geek that was bullied at school – “Politics? ……………………eeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr………………………………. I……………don’t really………………know”
Now a serious interviewer would have responded along the lines of “You stupid little tw*t, you don’t even know?!!! Then why the hell are you doing this you numbskull, this is criminal activity and you are fecking up legitimate services for millions of tax paying law abiding individuals causing no end of inconvenience and hassle and you don’t even fecking know why you are doing this!!! You should spend less time on the web looking at porn whilst being subsidised by the state and more time washing and paying tax you complete cretin! And what sort of fecking stupid name is ‘Coldblood’ anyway you goon, get a proper job right now and stop taking money off Daddy!!”
The BBC gimps’s response – “chuckle chuckle chuckle, ‘you don’t really know’ chuckle chuckle, all right, Coldblood, thank you very much”
I expect serious journalism from the BBC I pay for, not arse licking, sycophantic, sympathising nonsense from an interviewer clearly way out of his depth.
‘Coldblood’ said he worked as a software engineer.
I couldn’t tell if it was a studio interview or not? If studio the BBC were entertaining a confessed criminal without calling the Police. It’s just like the cooing interviews they gave to the anarchist rioters in Greece. These BBC presenters should be behind bars with the people they interview.
You should have seen the soft matey Paxman purring at criminals in a prison recently, shaking their hands and expressing his pleasure at meeting them. Where was the snapping snarling fearsome questioner and challenger of politicians that we are familiar with? Nowhere to be seen or heard.
Mr Smith, Utter Rubbish.
Far from being a girlfriend of several years standing he had not even met either one of the two women before his recent trip to Sweden.
Both are concerned that he may have passed on serious sexual diseases including HIV/AIDS through his insistence on unprotected sex.
Both allege that they requested not to have unprotected sex with Mr Assange but that he did not accept their refusal.
One alleges that he commenced sexual intercourse with her whilst she was asleep, there cannot have been consent in that case for that sexual behaviour.
Hence one is classed as rape but the other is the lesser crime of sexual assault.
It may or may not turn out to be true that Mr Assange carried out these offenses, but they are serious allegations.
To claim it was a case of an incident of having consensual unprotected sex with a long term partner is absurdly false, no justice system in a western country would prosecute on that basis, even Sweden, but this is patently not the case here anyway.
Yes, why post a story that is utterly false, Mr Smith?
I’m surprised at the article and comments here because as far as I am aware most of the people protesting against the companies who cut off Wikileaks have been reported as running denial of service attacks.
Now you may or may not agree with such a protest and may think Wikileaks is illegal, or you may believe the US government’s dirty tricks are illegal. But whatever your opinion on those issues should not cloud the difference between denial of service and hacking.
Denial of service is the online equivalent of protesting on the pavement and preventing customers geting in the door. It is not ‘hacking’, which is the online equivalent of breaking in, smashing the place up and stealing the assets.
This is an anti bias site, so which are you reporting and discussing? It makes all the difference.
It’s cyber-vandalism, then. Still not cool, still should not be supported.
It’s pretty telling that not only are the BBC Comrades on full support all sorts of current UAF protests, they are also making programmes like THIS ONE about the EDL/WDL, with intrinsic support from militant hard left UAF activist UKFIightback, of which in the comments section of His own damned channel he crows about it for Trotsky.
Impartiality is in BBC genes?
Can you imagine the venom the BBC spew if the target of the denial of service attacks was itself or an organisation it sympathised with?
BBC-NUJ’s PAUL MASON: ‘Newsnight’ one-man revolutionary.
Mason, NUJ Father of the Chapel at BBC-NUJ ‘Newsnight’, plays the role of revolutionary reporteron his blog about the student violent demo, living out his 1968 Paris fantasies by talking up his ‘bainlieue’ of Croydon:
[extract]:
“While a good half of the march was undergraduates from the most militant college occupations – UCL, SOAS, Leeds, Sussex – the really stunning phenomenon, politically, was the presence of youth: bainlieue-style youth from Croydon, Peckam, the council estates of Islington.”
Of course, Mason’s masonic machinations indicates the political euphoria he feels as he participates with these demonstrators as they take on the police (for whom Mason shows no sympathy).
Mason’s final words reveal where his political commitment and his wishful emotions lay. (And we licencepayers pay him for his political agitation!):
“…it is unprecedented to see a government teeter before a movement in whom the iconic voices are sixteen and seventeen year old women, and whose anthems are mainly dubstep.”
“Dubstep rebellion – the British banlieue comes to Millbank”
Even for Mason this was pure drivel.
Self indulgent and banal. “Banlieu Youths” .Is he insane? Does he want them to start torching buses and cars in true Parisian fashion? Probably in his fantasy world he does.
To protest exactly what?Not enough degrees in hiphop?
Poor Mason. Does he not know that out here in the towns and villages of this land hardly anybody cares about the students and the vast majority hope the police use maximum force to bring order to the streets.
The man would be a disgrace to journalism if he wasn’t so pathetic.
F@#$ing Rory Cellan-Jones just showed directions on how to attack the Visa website on his laptop on the News just now. Aiding and abetting right there, and I don’t even have to talk about how I inferred a bit of glee in his voice as he described what’s been going on.
In just a few days, it seems pretty clear that a large tranche of BBC student mentality luvviedom, safe within its inviolable uniquely-funded bubble, sees no problem with abusing its national broadcast access to enable personal prejudices to overcome any professional broadcasting responsibility.
And yet the voting public, the majority of whose interests are not being served or represented, are required by a bunch of toothless PR spinners (who we can, at least, vote out… for now) to keep on funding ’em.
Actually, becoming an anarchist probably is a smart career move these days. At least you can be assured of good PR.
Just a thought. Is the real villain Julian Assange or the forgotten PFC Bernard Manning?
Both Assange and Manning. Manning committed treason, and was proud to do it, apparently. Assange and his crew help disseminate information on how to do what Manning did. Then there’s Assange’s public statements about wanting to harm US foreign policy, remember?
WikiHacks founder and alleged rapist Julian Assange is not happy about the cybercriminal attacks on various business websites. He told Fox News he was surprised by it and wasn’t pleasedm saying the attacks are against his beliefs.
BBC: ZZzzzzzzzzzz
Assange, the great liberator of information, has been particularly keen to keep details about himself private. Last week people were complaining online about not being able to find out his date of birth, for instance, and no one seemed to know where he was in England; also, I read that he tried to give a post office address on court papers.
But earlier this week on Newsnight, they showed the Interpol warrant which had details such as his date of birth and lo and behold, it is now included in his biographical entry on Wiki. Also we find out that he had been staying at a journalists’ club in Paddington for the past few months. Outed by the Beeboid Corporation? I don’t know. Maybe it was already out in the media before Newsnight.
I don’t blame people for wanting to guard their privacy but Mr Disclosure has no qualms about disclosing what others want to be kept private, no matter that it may cause humiliation, embarrassment, damage to relations or confidence – or even if it leads to violent disturbance, upheaval and death.