The BBC covered the Jihad attack that took place in Stockholm this morning. You should give it a listen here. It strikes me that the BBC still cannot comprehend WHY the UK is such a star destination for wannabe Jihadists.Nor, for that matter, does it choose to linger on the ISLAM connection. I wonder why?
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‘…the BBC still cannot comprehend..’
As with the ‘student’ protests, one suspects they might comprehend very well.
When so much revolves around getting ‘the message’ out, it surely can’t hurt for activists of any hue to realise that they have, at worst, a highly sympathetic or at even worse (for public safety) proactively complicit media organ ready and waiting to serve their aims. in broadcast or, when needed, editorial by fudge.
Just as I will not vote for any politician idiotically intoning ‘lessons have been learned’, so i will despise any lazy medium who excuses extreme behaviour with the too easily deployed empathetic reason of folk being ‘angry’… and withdraw any support in the form of funding. Bar one, which I am compelled to, uniquely, no matter what.
Many are less than thrilled with stuff. Most write, peacefully demonstrate or await the polling booth to articulate this, and don’t anarchically swing off monuments or blow their fool nihilistic selves up whilst trying to kill innocents.
Such minority attention seekers should be sidelined, not feted by media bubble junkies seeking cheap ratings or outlets for their own niche views.
Funnily enough the BBC had Yasmin Alibi Brown on the paper review last night and she said that she hated Luton as it was full of unpleasant Islamist groups. Oh dear, poor Clive Myrie nearly had a heart attack trying to spin the BBC out of that one.
Luton. A glimpse into the future.
Decent of him not to blow himself up in Luton? Why didn’t he?
What and miss out on an all expenses paid trip tp Sweden.
Degree wrote:
“Decent of him not to blow himself up in Luton? Why didn’t he?”
Because Muslims who aspire for a worldwide caliphate don’t look at things in the short-term but rather the longterm. Which is why the attack was designed to get Swedes not to vote to extend the mandate to keep their troops in Afghanistan after 1/1/11. You know something along the lines of the Madrid bombings.
Instead all you hear from the likes of the beeb is ‘Islam is a religion of peace.’
And I expect it will suceed, thereby causing more innocent deaths. People tend to be more like Chamberlain then Churchill.
he didnt blow himself up in luton because its full of muslims.
@deegee: Something to do with not pooing in such a comfy bed one imagines.
Islam 101, for Islam Not BBC (INBBC):
– Islamic jihad is integral to Islam.
INBBC propagandises on behalf of some Muslims that Stockholm Islamic jihadist had a ‘distorted view’ of Islam.
INBBC cannot admit that Stockholm Islamic jihadist had a true view of Islam.
Ex-Muslim, and critic of Islam, Ibn Warraq has this (of April 2010):
“One cannot imagine an [….] introduction to a translation of the Koran, which, in fact, has not been submitted to a skeptical scrutiny.The reasons for the reticence of many Western scholars of Islam to submit it to rigorous analysis are many and various, including:
Political correctness leading to Islamic correctness; The fear of playing into the hands of racists or reactionaries to the detriment of the West’s Muslim minorities; Commercial or economic motives; Feelings of post-colonial guilt (where the entire planet’s problems are attributed to the West’s wicked ways and intentions); Plain physical fear; Intellectual terrorism of writers such as Edward Said. “
(‘ The Dogmatic Islamophilia of Western Islamologists’)by Ibn Warraq
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/61227/sec_id/61227
at least Britain leads the world in one form of export!
I wonder why ‘Horrible Histories’ didn’t include Muslim terrorists as things not really British?
Don’t know about Bedfordshire, but the BBC News Channel right now is doing a segment trying to assure everyone that there is definitley no radicalization problem in Luton.
Some mouthpiece says there is no problem at all, but when asked if he knew of any connection between the bomber and other radicals in Luton he said he had no idea. Is there other stuff going on that might be a problem? We don’t know. But don’t worry, there’s really no problem.
Now Sopel is talking to the mouthpiece from Luton Islamic Center. Sopel asks him if the mosque leaders should have informed the police that the bomber was going to do this. The mouthpiece says no, there was no crime committed at the time he was there, so they didn’t have to report anything. According to the Luton Islamic Center guy, the bomber had extremist views and was trying to spread them, “which we put a stop to.” The guy walked out of the mosque, and the Luton people washed their hands of him. They almost never expel someone from their mosque for extremist beliefs. But since the leaders didn’t think he was a danger, no need to inform the police. Muslims aren’t violent, he says, he never would have expected this because all Muslims know violence is wrong, etc.
Nothing to do with us, guv. No idea.
were you truly wafted here from paradise,no luton airport….boom boom…bomb going off
“It has emerged that Abdaly had attended the Luton Islamic Centre but left after other members accused him of having a “distorted view” of Islam.”
here we go…..
‘Jihadwatch’:
UK: Luton mosque says they threw out Stockholm jihad bomber for his “extremist” views
The infiltrated INBBC, and much of MSM, endorses all the following Islamic propaganda:
[[Opening extract, from ‘Jihadwatch’] –
“‘I talked to him and went through his arguments and countered all of them theologically and he accepted it. I thought that was the end of it but he carried on. So one day, before the end of Ramadan, when the mosque was full I directly challenged all his misinterpretations of Islam.’
“Of course, Qadeer Baksh doesn’t bother to explain to the Telegraph exactly how Taimur Abdulwahab al-Abdaly misunderstood Islam, and that is par for the course: again and again over the years we have seen Islamic spokesmen make sweeping generalizations about how jihad terror contradicts basic tenets of Islam, but detailed theological refutations of the jihadists’ Islamic arguments remain extremely thin on the ground.
“Also, it’s noteworthy that the Luton mosque leaders acted so proactively, by their own account, while at the same time Luton is known as “synonymous with Islamic extremism.” So many Misunderstanders of Islam in Luton, and none of them go to this mosque?”
We yet have to hear from the BBC how many univbrsities are hotbeds of Islamic fanaticism. Including the “university” of Bedfordshire.
There are many thousands of Muslims in Britain who will regard this scum as a martyr. That idea should be ridiculed, scorned, criticised in all the BBC’s output. Instead the BBC deliberately conceals the depth of the problem.
For INBBC:
“Pat Condell on Sweden”
(6 min video, of 2 weeks ago)
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/12/pat-condell-on-sweden.html
Thanks for the link – isn’t it really heartbreaking?
A very powerful piece by Pat Condell. A profoundly articulate man who I can’t see being invited on Question Time any time soon.
INBBC ‘Newsnight’ continues its Islamophilic propaganda tonight by going to Islamic section of Luton to get Islamic only apologetic soundbite on Stockholm Islamic jihadist, and on the ‘true’ version of Islam.
(-from INBBC ‘Newsnight’ blog for tonight):-
“And we have been to Luton to speak to former associates of Stockholm suicide bomber Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly.”
INBBC forces the vast, 95% of the non-Muslim population of Britain to be dictated to by Islamic apologists.
INBBC treats we 95% as mere passive recipients of uncriticised Islamic supremacist propaganda.
Where are the non-Muslim and ex-Muslim critics of Islam at INBBC?
Nowhere. INBBC censorship on criticism of the tenets of Islam is complete. And licencepayers fund this INBBC Islamic propaganda.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/fromthewebteam/2010/12/monday_13_december_2010.html
Non-INBBC account:
‘Why Sweden?’
(by Robert Spencer)
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/12/13/why-sweden/2
The same ‘damage control’ angle is taken on the home page of the BBC News website now, it’s coverage of the story leading with:
Mosque ‘challenged bomber’s view’
A suspected suicide bomber who detonated explosives in Stockholm was challenged about his extreme views, a Luton mosque official says.
The accompanying Profile: Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly
begins by pushing the same point:
Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly, the suspect in the Stockholm suicide bombing, had been confronted over his radical views by members of an English mosque, it has emerged.
It’s so comforting to know that local imams tell these extremists to stop it and go away, but don’t see the need to report extremists to the police because good Muslims don’t do violence.
Is anyone else fed up with the BBC’s constant reminders of Sweden’s “tradition of tolerance” (as Huw Edwards put it earlier) while still managing to censor all news of what’s been happening to the Jews of Malmö?
On and on about how there’s really only a tiny little problem with Mohammedan extremists, Sweden is still super tolerant, but no mention whatsoever of the attacks on Jews. The BBC is even giving credence to the notion that part of the problem is a couple of nasty right-wing politicians making anti-immigration noises. Yeah, that’s what makes them want to commit mass murder, BBC. If the Swedes are so tolerant, why did the mayor of Malmö say the Jews had it coming for their support of Israel, and why did the local paper blame the Jews for being deserving of attacks?
Sweden’s largest-circulating newspaper has even printed a story about how Israel kills Palestinians to harvest their organs. Tolerant? I think not. Yet the BBC has censored all news of Swedish intolerance of Jews, while trumpeting their tolerance across the spectrum of broadcasting.
This is an absolutely clear example of the BBC’s editorial double standard.
Nick Cohen criticises dominant Islamophilic dogmatism in MSM:
“Lucky Sweden?”
http://www.spectator.co.uk/nickcohen/6539003/lucky-sweden.thtml
It’s nice that Muslims don’t have to go all the way to far-flung places like FATA or Chechnya to become ‘radicalised’/strict Muslims any more. That they can come to Britain and have access to all sorts of active terrorist programs that nobody seems to want to admit exist.
I’ll add it to the list of things we’re good at as a nation: complaining, becoming increasingly more illiterate, mobile car washes and Koranic Literalist cells.
This site is great and well needed,but i hope people are also sending complaints to the bbc direct.
I hope people are sending complaints against the BBC to people with the power to do something about it. Copying them of course so the BBC can’t say they dont get complaints.
The only thing that is going to arrest our nation’s descent into madness is a political realignment. Dont even see a glimmer of this on the horizon.
Well Newsnight are airing their version (contrary to the facts on the ground) about how a member of their religion of peace decided to share his joy of life with the Swedes. It seems the bBC have taken note of the mosque angle and have written a script for the esteemed holy religious mullah to explain just why they didn’t go to the police when they (apparently) kicked out this person. Hang on they didn’t they had a chat with him and his world opinion changed after one chat. Amazing. Must have been something else which sent him to Sweden in which to carry out a crime of terror.
Also,
Kirsty was fortunate enough to have leader of Luton Islamic Centre in the studio on last night’s Newsnight. Abdul Qadeer Baksh, his luxuriant bushy beard glistening under the lights.
His body language revealed more than the well rehearsed P.R. we’d been hearing all day on BBC news 24.
On the delicate matter of distorted versions of the ROP, Kirsty put him on the spot by asking unexpectedly “What was he saying that was distorted?” One would expect something like “Allah wants all non believers to die.” But no. Looking like a rabbit caught in headlights, he came up with:
“All the leaders of Islamic countries are no longer Muslims. They’re apostates. And also erm, all the scholars of the world, the Muslim scholars, they’re unreliable. They’re untrustworthy. You can’t take anything from them no more because they’re in the pocket of the government.”
“ Was he talking about Jihad?”
“Erm um….. third claim was,” (touches nose,) “that he, erm. was, he was preaching that” (shifts in seat,) “That Jihad was the most greatest obligation, that all the Moslems must, you know,” (hand gesture) ” work towards!” (Relief) “But these were his three main claims, and so I sat with him, I confronted him, I debated with him and I showed him how he was, how he was… totally misunderstood these textual evidences from the Kor’an and the Sunna, and he changed.”
“He changed?”
”He changed, he accepted it in front of me and I left that meeting content, that he realised he was wrong….
“The next day my colleagues said no he’s gone back to the way he was so I sat with him again, this happened two or three times, I sat with him till he realised he was wrong, and till finally I had to expose him! which I did in front of everybody! I took every one of his arguments, dissected them..”
”Everybody in the Mosque?”
“Yes, everybody in the mosque…………….
“Police knew who’s who and what’s what. His views were just like others, who we’ve been able to change.”
One normally might have wished Kirsty had probed further, but on this occasion her brevity, albeit unintentionally, did a far better job.
Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wqcrk#synopsis
I thought he was angry about Sweden’s “trumped up” charges against Assange.
The BBC is Jihads longest running comedy show the way it fawns over its star terrorists. If the BBC wanted to conduct an in-depth report on why Britain is such a terrrorist hub, it wouldn’t need to go beyond its own doors. The BBC wages propaganda jihad free of charge. Well, no – we pay for it!
INBBC, lacking an independent critique of Islam, forever politically delegates to Islamic groups, and forces their Islamic line on to the funding licencepayers.
An alternative analysis by a non-Muslim, unfiltered by any Islamic group, Quilliam, etc:
”Islam or Islamism?”: Spencer at the Vienna Forum, May 8, 2010
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/05/islam-or-islamism-spencer-at-the-vienna-forum-may-8-2010.html
“Is this Paradise? Nah, Luton Airport.”
(by Richard Littlejohn):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-1338336/Stockholm-suicide-bomber-Why-Luton-training-ground.html
“How I was reviled for warning that Britain is a hotbed of Islamic terrorism”
(Melanie Phillips).
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1338397/Sweden-suicide-bomber-I-reviled-warning-Britain-hotbed-Islamic-terrorism.html#ixzz188RvfB5g
Come on, INBBC, mention that his latest guy is a Muslim, out to commit Islamic jihad in Manchester. And what ‘radicalised’ him? Couldn’t be the Koran, could it?
“Terror suspect Abid Naseer sought by US authorities”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11998808