OPEN THREAD…

Monday morning, a new week beckons and a new Open Thread awaits. So, what’s been bothering YOU with BBC coverage today….?

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  1. George R says:

    Islam Not BBC (INBBC) and its Muslim correspondent, ZEINAB BADAWI, (born in Sudan) has a report on widespread rape in northern Somalia.

    “Rape with impunity – plight of Somalia’s women refugees”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-11997936

    Ms. Badawi apparently thinks it is irrelevant to mention that Somalia is an Islamic society, and to mention the place of women in the tenets of Islam.

    I suppose I’ve been influenced by what an  ex- Muslim, Somali-born woman, (whom Badawi doesn’t mention)- AYAAN HIRSI ALI, has said and written on this, e.g.:

    “Ayaan Hirsi Ali: ‘Why are Muslims so hypersensitive?'”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/08/ayaan-hirsi-ali-interview

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  2. John Horne Tooke says:

    This “research” was reported in the Guardian, Telegraph and BBC

    “Polar bears can be saved by emissions cuts, study says”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11986236

    True to form (as with the disabled student) they did not check the credentials of the “scientists” making the claim.

    As luck would have it MarsExpress comments in the Guardian:

    “I think the important point here is that Polar Bears International is neither an atmospheric nor oceanographic scientific organisation. It has no credibility in the area of climate change.

    The lead author quoted, Dr. Steven C. Amstrup, is described on their web site as a “retired” scientist with a degree in Forestry, and an MS and PhD in “Wildlife Management”.

    The other staff are listed as: “a long-time zoo keeper”, “a B.S. in Biology”, someone with “a degree in Advertising” and “a Masters of Arts in the Environment and Community”, someone who “has worked extensively within the outdoor and business worlds”, “a Master’s Degree in Nonprofit Leadership and Management”, “a professional writer”, and someone with “a degree in Outdoor Education”.

    The founders and Directors are listed as: “a wildlife photographer”, “a wife and secretary”, “owner and operator of his family’s company, Canada Goose, manufacturer of the world’s best and warmest parkas and extreme outerwear”, “a highly successful residential and commercial property developer”, someone “retired from a marketing role with a leading global beverage company”, “a retired financial officer”, “a skilled communicator” (that’s all – nothing else), “a marketing writer and editor for an international software company”, “a professional copywriter and graphic designer”, “a retired human resources consultant”, “an information technology and services industry specialist”, “a former U.S. senator and retired U.S. circuit court judge”, someone who “owns and operates a building supply business”, “an award-winning author”, “a retired business executive”, “an avid birder and nature enthusiast”, and “a retired attorney”.”
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/15/polar-bears-arctic-emissions

    I was suprised to find so many “deniers” in the comments of the Guardian.

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    • David Jones says:

      Brilliant exposure. Neil Bowdler and the bBC should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

      Is Bowdler a relation of the one that bowdlerised Shakespeare? Probably – it’s in the genes.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I took one look at the headline, picture and intro para,

      Cutting global greenhouse emissions might yet save the polar bear and its Arctic habitat, according to scientists in the US.

      … ‘might’…. ‘save the polar bear’ … and ‘scientists say’… all together, in 2010 (hottest year on record)…


      …and then checked the byline..

      By Neil BowdlerScience reporter, BBC News

      Messrs Black, Shuckman & Harrabin have been joined  by a worthy, and equally qualified Mouseketeer. At least press release retypers seem to be breeding in the heat.

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  3. dave s says:

    Essler on Newsnight with a “discussion” on the economy.
    I gathered that unemployment is rising because of the “cuts”. The private sector is useless and that only adopting the miracle cures proposed by Obama for the US can save us from a double dip recession.
    Poor old Grayling for the coalition had an impossible task explaining to the useful idiots that more and more  government debt will solve nothing.
    Essler then conducted the softest of interviews with Darling and failed to ask him whether the last government’s policies could have had the slightest bearing on the matter.
    Statist to the core and quite unable to understand reality. The assembled minds of the BBC in action.

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    • John Anderson says:

      So the Coalition is so clever that it has developed some kind of time machine ?   None of the cuts have taken effect yet – but they have already increased unemployment ?   A timeshift ?

      Essler’s main stuff at the BBC these days is on Dateline – which takes the biscuit for sheer bias,  as Craig has shown umpteen times.

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  4. Martin says:

    So nice to see that the cost of flying my second least favourite Celt on radio 5 is proving to be worth every penny of the thousands it’s costing.

    Colin Patteron was sent out apparently to give us freezing proles a ‘taste’ of the atmosphere of the Ashes, quite how a Scotsman could do that is beyond me, just as I wouldn’t imagine an Englishman could make the highland games appear interesting.

    Now lately the BBC have had a bit of a problem with 4 letter words, Radio 4 with the ‘hunt’ stuff and Radio 5 over the last week.

    So did Colin Patterson REALLY think that interviewing some drunk Aussie with a large Vegemite tattoo across his body would start off using any other word that f**k?

    If the BBC can afford to send pillocks like Patterson to Australia to give us such broadcasting gems then the BBC really does have too much money to waste.

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  5. Pounce says:

    Yet another example of how the bBC hides the ugly hand of Islam.
    Russian ethnic riots: Hundreds arrested in Moscow
    More than 800 people have been arrested in central Moscow in an attempt to prevent further ethnic clashes over the shooting of a football fan, police say…The death of a Moscow Spartak fan, allegedly in a fight with North Caucasians, has prompted riots and attacks targeting ethnic minorities

    So anybody wish to inform me of the majority faith in the North Caucasus.It seems the bBC doesn’t know but knows they don’t subscribe to the Russian orthodox church hence the term ‘Ethnic’.

    Here is how AFP is reporting the story:
    Russia police act to stop riots

    MOSCOW police have arrested more than 700 people in a bid to prevent more ethnic clashes. Tensions are running high in Russia’s capital following the deadly shooting of a soccer fan last week, a spokesman said……Gangs of Muslims were reported to have been planning a counter-rally at Kievsky and a major Russian nationalist movement called on its supporters to come armed to the site.

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  6. George R says:

    Yes; while BBC-Greenpeace propagandises for a Cancun energy tax in UK, Beeboids relegate threat from Islam in UK.

    INBBC does not seem to give much intelligent linkage to all this Islamic jihad war against the West, as indicated by just these 3 current reports:

    1.) Stockholm jihad:

    “‘I never knew my husband had become a terrorist’: Wife of British-based suicide bomber tells of her ‘devastation’ over Stockholm attack”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1337930/Sweden-suicide-bombers-wife-I-knew-husband-terrorist.html#ixzz18HJUBGei

    2.)Manchester jihad plan:

    Jihadist in failed plot on NYC subways was part of larger plan to attack Britain, the U.S., and Norway

    3.) Pakistan: UK jihad converts killed:

    “White Britons ‘called Steve and Gerry killed fighting for Al Qaeda in Pakistan’ by U.S. drone missile”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339036/Two-white-Britons-killed-fighting-Al-Qaeda-U-S-drone-attack-Pakistan.html#ixzz18HK4hUiR

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  7. David Preiser (USA) says:

    WikiHacks hero Julian Assange is getting out on bail, and it’s the BBC’s top story.  We even got his mother on camera talking about how she couldn’t wait to “hold him close”.  The BBC is relentlessly sympathetic.  Quite the contrast to how they portray people arrested for things they don’t like.

    Censored from this and all BBC reports about Assange:  his statement that his goal is to harm US foreign policy, and his declaration that his previous efforts were responsible for the justifiable deaths of 1700 people in Kenya.

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    • Millie Tant says:

      David P: Quite the contrast to how they portray people arrested for things they don’t like.  
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      Good point. Somehow one can’t imagine them wheeling on Nick Griffin’s mother, for example.

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  8. kitty shaw says:

    bBC can’t hide its pleasure at Assange being let out on bail.

    Wonder what its reaction would be if Sweden found ways of avoiding extraditing to the UK someone accused of rape and sexual assault, let them out on bail knowing he’s likely to abscond.

    Obviously sex crimes are unimportant to the bBC, he must be innocent as he said so, he’s done a Binyam.

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  9. kitty shaw says:

    bBC in race of Islamic Al Qaeda revelation shock! First sentence of the article.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12006061

    Don’t fall off your chairs though.

    They were identified as white.

    A further British Al Qaeda man is mentioned later, but by then his racial background was too unimportant to mention.

    Interestingly despite that being more evidence of Jabbar he was referred to merely as a “suspect”, whilst the far less evidenced Stephen and Dearsmith were “members”.

    Don’t get me wrong their colour is nothing to do with their scumbag terrorist ways, we all know what is, but the bBC just won’t acknowledge the truth, but why does the bBC think in this case alone their colour is suddenly important, what would be their reaction if I identified a terrorist’s race as his first description.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I’m sure the BBC doesn’t view it like this, but it’s surely tacit admission that race has little to do with being a terrorist whilst religion has everything to do with it.

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    • Millie Tant says:

      What is this white business? You don’t get them telling us two brown British men were terrorists.

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  10. David Preiser (USA) says:

    One of the platoon of Beeboids covering the US, Laura Trevelyan, has done a follow-up interview with the imam behind the You-Know-What-Near-You-Know-Where.  We get the usual recipe of bias, a gesture towards balance, censorship, and a return of everyone’s favorite quiz game, Spot The Missing Word.

    Imam Feisal Rauf: New York Islamic centre ‘dream alive’

    From the start, Trevelyan sets the tone that the whole controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” was a manufactured noise and not so legitimate.  After all, there was no national outrage the instant it was first reported.  It only became a story, the imam claims, because of the election.  This is his opinion, left unchallenged or examined.  So right away the reader is set up to think about this from a certain perspective, i.e. any opposition is overwrought and manufactured.

    For balance, we get the brother of one of the firefighters killed on 9/11.  The BBC allows through his viewpoint that the mass murders of that day were “an attack” justified by Islam, and it’s wrong to play that down.  It would be nice if he or someone else was given a little more space to explain that the so-called dialogue this Islamic Center is supposed to foster will have no influence whatsoever on the Islamonutters who are planning terrorist acts around the world, as they’re not even remotely connected to any interfaith wetness discussed by wealthy people and politicians in New York City.

    But there’s a moment given to an opposing viewpoint, so this is at least one bit of balance, even by the relatively low bar set by the BBC’s editorial policy.

    However, the rest of Trevelyan’s piece is dedicated to playing it down again, and encouraging the reader to think positively about the imam’s goals.  The fireman’s brother’s objections to federal funding for the project is rebutted by Imam Raouf’s desire to “draw a distinction” between himself and the project developer.  In other words, his goals are still laudable, and we mustn’t let any objections to the project’s details sway us.  We are then reminded how this project is a metaphor for relationships between Mohammedans and the rest of the world.  We must support it because we all want peace and harmony with them.  In other words, any objection to this Islamic Center is an objection to worldwide peace with Islam.

    The photo and the information listed under the “Park51” inset to the right of the text body helpfully guide the reader further into thinking this is a non-issue.  Notice how it says that it’s “several hundred yards from Ground Zero”.

    This is false.  First of all, as both the BBC themselves and I have shown on video, the building is barely 200 yards from the construction site where the towers stood.  The BBC is exaggerating for effect here.

    Censored by the BBC:  the building itself was hit by wreckage from one of the planes, and was covered in debris and ash for weeks.  It’s intrinsically connected to Ground Zero, not several hundred yards away from it.  Why else has it been unused all this time?  It’s not just any old delapidated building, like Trevelyan wants you to believe.  But the BBC doesn’t want you to know that, because it would harm the Narrative.

    Censored by the BBC:  the developer whom the BBC and the imam want you to separate from the project’s worthiness has been evicted from his NYC offices for owing thousands of dollars in back rent.  He’s got form on this as well. Not an upright character at all, but BBC audiences wouldn’t know this.

    Censored by the BBC:  Imam Raouf told his fellow Mohammedans recently that he actually doesn’t believe in the kind of religious dialogue everyone thinks he does.  He actually just wants everyone else to accept Islam as is.

    And finally, Spot The Missing Word.

    Today’s missing word begins with the letter “C”.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC is exaggerating for effect here. ‘

      No, no, no… this is merely ‘BBC Maffs’.

      And, as can be expected, it is quite unique.

      Hence 100:1, near total decrying of ‘No Pressure’ video is a ‘split’.

      Meanwhile, a cropped photo of six activists and a dog coralled via a flashmob request by a Newsnight producer on twitter can be spun as tens of thousands of angry [insert cause here]… 

      I am quite sure the Jody furore on The Editors blog will be ‘a few style suggestions on improvements from our sisters at the Graun..’, while anything, say, here – http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/2010/10/new-bbc-editorial-guidelines-l.shtml  – will really only be the fully justifiably ignored ramblings of Daily Mail readers.

      Etc.

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  11. kitty shaw says:

    “The bBC, how it defends Islamic terrorists by rewriting history.  
    Terror suspect Abid Naseer sought by US authorities  
    A terror suspect living in Manchester was part of an al-Qaeda plot to launch co-ordinated international bombings, US Justice Department lawyers have said…Mr Naseer, 24, who is originally from Pakistan, denies the charges.  
     
    So let me get this straight Mr Naseer originally from Pakistan. Really so where is he from now..Britain? was part of a plot because the nasty Americans say so and just so you can’t find out anything about this so called bBC ideological hero they include no links to his past what so ever.  How strange the bBC which has no problem littering its article with links in this case hasn’t. I wonder why. No doubt the bBC will be bringing out the big guns soon (MPACUK/Ridley/That window licker) in which to complain about how this poor man will get tortured if sent to the US.” ‘Pounce’


    Quite so Pounce, you probably could add that they will say the UK has a duty to protect him as he is British. When pushed on that last statement they will then weasel it to British resident. Then they will want to award the devout man of peace with a small fortune and British citizenship asap.

    Its no good just blaming liebour for this now. Defence, security and law and order are the first priority of any government. Something should have already been enacted by the incoming liberal government, but Tony Cameron and Gordon Clegg are proving as bad if not actually worse !! on those specific areas. More people voted conservative than anything else and less people voted liberal than conservative or socialist, so why do we have to put up with a liberal government who are happy to let criminals out early, imprison less of them, close prisons, axe thousands of police, decimate our armed forces, close huge numbers of courts and coastguards. Keep out the enemy without and protect us from the enemy within, don’t make me laugh.

    Defend us, make us secure, prosecute the wrongdoer, dispense justice, give us the freedom to pursue our lives as we like where we are not harming others. This is government 101.

    Instead they seem to be taking government 101 almost directly from the ‘university of the bBC’ – its shocking.

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  12. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Why can’t the BBC ever blame the illegal immigrant parents for deliberately placing their children in a position where they might be detained and made unhappy?  It’s always the system to blame, never the perpetrators.

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