OPEN THREAD


Wow, the last open thread is heading for 200 comments so thought I would provide a new one. Keep your comments on bias at the BBC coming…

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  1. Martin says:

    Come on BBC scum, why no comment about Ed Balls being a Nazi lover?

    Here’s the picture so there’s no excuse now, 

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    • NotaSheep says:

      That picture will never see the light of day on The News Quiz or similar, it is verbotten!

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  2. John Horne Tooke says:

    “Climate scientists targeted for fraud”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12219472

    Oh the irony. Fraudsters target fraudsters.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Reading that headline, I thought the climate mongers were being accused of fraud.  Why is the BBC wasting time on a tiny little phishing story?  Is it because High Priest Richard Black is an advocate and wants support for them at all costs?  Is this supposed to be some attack on climate science in general?

      Pathetic.  It’s a phishing story, nothing more. Why are climate scientists deserving of speciall attention for something like this, BBC?  Answers on a nano-postcard…..

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      • Chairman of Selectors says:

        This is a disgraceful story. If Black wants to write about fraud, maybe he should start with the whole goddamn AGW scam? Christ, these people belong in jail, not taking home 100k salaries paid for BY ME.

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    • Techno Mystic says:

      I was going to post this myself.

      It says  a lot that fraudsters can convincingly fake global warming conferences and that they think there are people gullible enough to fall for it…

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      • Guest Who says:

        Reading it, I was struck by the notion that there are a lot of folk who would drop everything, climb in a plane and wallow in a hotel jacuzzi for the opening of a previously unheard of envelope if the invite alluded to a tinge of green.

        And the funds their end would get signed off without a peep if it’s ‘to save the planet’.

        Mr. Black’s story seems more a warning post to fellow climate caravan travellers not to be shown as any more gullible and travel-addicted than they already are.

        It’s a wonder they don’t have their own private forum for such things: ‘Caution, the rum in the Cancun beach bar Cuba Libra is possibly not Fairtrade!’

        I follow a lot of enviro types’ tweets for professional reasons, from ‘charities’ to CSR consultants. The chatter around conferences is hilarious: ‘See you’re attending XX. catch up in the airport for dinner?’

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  3. Grant says:

    Switched on the car radio to R4 today at 4.15 pm.  Some book programme with the choice of books by , guess who, the Universal Alistair Campbell.  He mentioned one book and the  fawning female Beeboid interviewing said “oooh, Jo Brand gave me that book as a present “.
    I switched off the radio, pulled over, opened the car door and threw up.
    Beeboids can damage your health.

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  4. pounce_uk says:

    The bBC and Halal food for thought.
    Row brewing over halal meat regulation
    An organisation which licenses companies dealing in halal meat has been accused of bullying the firms it regulates.The Halal Monitoring Committee (HMC) was set up in 2003 in Leicester, with the aim of carrying out inspections in abattoirs and meat wholesalers and to monitor butchers. In return the businesses would be given a HMC licence – and pay a monthly fee. Some retailers have complained the HMC is too heavy-handed, uses bullying tactics to get them to join the scheme and are just in it to make money… Mehboob Ayub, who has a butcher’s shop in Huddersfield, alleged that HMC inspectors threatened him, tried to damage his property and told people in the local mosque not buy his meat.”They tried to push me in my shop and argue with me, they tried to take my posters down and have been telling people in the local mosque not to buy meat from my shop,” Mr Ayub said.”I buy my meat from a HMC-registered slaughterhouse, my wholesaler has a HMC licence, so why should I pay them £30 a week to sell the meat? They just want money.”
    The HMC denies his claims, saying it does not go into mosques and “shame” retailers.
    Sheikh Yusuf Dudhwalla, chairman of the HMC, said: “Anyone selling our certified meat, who has our licence and is regularly monitored, is offering Muslims peace of mind when it comes to buying halal products.”We have to protect our high standards but we do not bully anyone nor do we go into mosques and shame any retailer, why would we?”
     
    So a 50/50 story about the licensing  of halal food in the UK which touches on the subject that some retailers are complaining that HMC is been heavy handed , but the bBC gives the HMC the final word.
    Well unlike the bBC I spent 5 minutes looking at the HMC website and on their certified butchers page and not only do they publish the names of butchers who pay 2p a kilo of the meat they sell to the HMC, but they also in red (and crossed out) publish the names of butchers who no longer which to belong to their self imposed club. Now in my book that is intimidation and slander (of sorts) yet the Investigative journalists at the bBC don’t seem to have access to the net. A further peak shows that a lot of muslims are questioning the legitimately of this organisation with the HMC having to defend itself on its own website.  Which is my next question, nowhere on their website does the HMC state just what qualifies these people other than they are scholars,  get that a bunch of scholars get together in 2003 and set up an org which demands that restaurants pay them £30 a month for the right to stick up a sign which says they serve ‘Halal meat. For some strange reason the bBC while allowing the HMC to defend their corner, don’t bother to delve any further?
    Which brings me to my main point, which links in with the Warsi complaint. You see Muslims in their home countries silence their critics by playing the ‘Are you attacking Islam’ card. That card cannot be played by Warsi, so she plays the racist card in which to achieve the same result. There is no difference between how her and the self appointed guardians at the HMC deflect the attention away from themselves and onto others. That people is how Islam works.

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    • Chairman of Selectors says:

      I once attended a BBQ where a muslim was invited. He insisted on bringing halal meat for the BBQ which I refused to eat, on the basis it is disgusting and cruel (no stun meat). He accused me of insulting his religion! This is a Britain born and bred Asian yet that idiot Baroness says I have the problem. I see the BBC went very big on that story as well – they loved it. Of course, I apologised profusely. You do not want to get on the wrong side of a muslim. I also note, while I’m here, that the  same BBC idiots who defend halal are fiercely anti fox hunting. So killing a vermin fox is the same as hanging a cow upside down, slitting its throat and leaving it to bleed to death?

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    • graham duck says:

      Listen chaps, if you think it’s bad at present, just wait until the Govt accepts Turkey into the EU (with whatever fudges are necessary at the time). That act of treason will sink us forever !

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      • Grant says:

        Don’t worry, Graham, it will never happen, and the EU will go down the pan anyway with or without Turkey.

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  5. George R says:

    “BBC still pays up to 135 execs more than PM”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/20/bbc-executive-pay

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  6. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Aha, Clive Myrie on the News Channel just asked some carers advocate what goes on at the local council level regarding extending benefits.  Oh, wait, it’s just an excuse to blame nasty Tory boodget coots.  
     
    Let the council ring-fence whatever they like.  Giving control to local councils means letting them actually control things.  What the hell is wrong with the stupid Beeboids today?  Why do they refuse to grasp this simple concept?  It’s just an excuse for a partisan attack.

    A better question for Myrie to ask would be about whether or not the salary of one of the legion of compliance officers and email writers might have gone towards giving this woman a benefits increase.

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    • Chairman of Selectors says:

      I am currently in Oz, but I assume everyone has seen this story from that local Leicester reporter who gave a first hand description of the behavioir of the arrogant BBC hack who went on about closures and cuts? No agenda there then. Jesus wept.

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  7. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC:  We’ve come to praise Alan Johnson, not to bury him.  Ignore the fingerprints on the knife in his back, and let’s pre-empt the Tory attacks.

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  8. fred bloggs says:

    Here’s another story the the bBC will want to keep quiet about.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348763/Full-turmoil-Labours-spending-3-Whitehall-departments-lost-control.html

    Shows the Liebour were out of control with the economy, a storyn line they are desperate to suppress.  I am sure the bBC are all too happy to obligue. 

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    • NotaSheep says:

      I blogged about this yesterday but not a word on the BBC yet. This is not bias it is brainwashing by omission.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        This was at last mentioned on BBC airwaves today: by Kevin Maguire, in passing while opining that Labour now had to create a new Narrative about their legacy leading up to “crunch time” and an inevitable election.

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  9. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Hello, what’s this?  Some advocate being interviewed on the News Channel just said the nasty Tory boodget coots haven’t actually taken effect yet, and so aren’t responsible for today’s news story.  Oh, dear.  
     
    So the BBC is making a partisan attack instead?  Good thing the Beeboid in the studio realized this and shifted focus back to demanding the Government abandons its budget policy of giving control back to local councils.  
     
    Who runs the local council in Bristol?

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  10. Samantha Vickers says:

    You might expect sport on the fivelive radio Thursday night sports show from 7pm onwards. But for some while now all you get is Eleanor Oldroyd and various other BBC wafflers droning on as this is clearly more important than listening to any sport.

    Of course tonights show is on school sports budget cuts…..

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  11. Stuart says:

    Here is an article mentioning that Sky News could be sold off:

    > http://www.thelondondailynews.com/news-could-sold-p-5013.html

    Wouldn’t it be good if the BBC did the same to its news and current affairs service?

    Then we could subscribe to it….or not.

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    • Martin says:

      The BBC would love that, ITV news closed down its rolling news service and if Newscorp got rid of Sky News and it closed that would just leave us with the scum at the BBC.

      The Guardian and drug users would be happy I’m sure.

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    • John Anderson says:

      I don’t think there is any chance of Sky News being sold – even though OfCom may prefer that.

      It loses up to £40 million a year and has cost a fortune to establish as the main challenger to BBC TV news. 

      I reckon BBC TV News would lose £200 million a year or more if it depended on subscriptions.

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  12. Martin says:

    Over on Guido there is a take that Johnson resigned due to alleged shagging on the side and that he was done up by Ed Ball’s SPAD.

    Oh dear.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Why has Nick Robinson been keeping shtum, I wonder?  He said earlier today that, “I can tell you” Johnson’s resignation was for personal reaons, which means he knew the reasons.  Once again Robinson’s instinct to protect politicians – any politician, regardless of party – in favor of informing the public takes over.

      This puts the resignation and Balls taking over his coveted position in a hugely different light.  The BBC knows exactly what’s going on, yet choose to hide this and celebrate Johnson and give Labour every opportunity to defend the whole silly thing.  Screw you, license fee payers.

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      • Techno Mystic says:

        To be fair, Guido’s story is a rumour.  If we expect the BBC to keep high standards then it shouldn’t publish stories based on rumour.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Baloney. This was no rumor.  This was a fact Robinson knew about, but was keeping silent like the good little Westminster lapdog he is.

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        • Grant says:

          Techno,
          Absolutely. The BBC should start its own rumours instead of pinching other peoples’.

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    • Charlie says:

      Its all Balls.

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      • Daniel Smith says:

        Balls up as Johnson flops…
        I think the headlines will write themselves on this one.

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  13. Martin says:

    News 24 are STILL peddling the lie that these repsite facilities are being cut by the Tories. 

    NO THEY ARE NOT, yet again the story is being spun by the BBC.

    More money is going into the schemes it’s the councils who refuse to spend it on the services. 

    All the ugly beeboid is saying is cuts, cuts, cuts

    Lies scum, lies lies lies.

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  14. Charlie says:

    Wonder why this has not been on the BBC its riveting. Suppose its not fitting the warmist agenda.

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  15. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Hey, BBC:  Which superfluous council jobs are taking money away from vital benefits to those who need it most?  Any thoughts?

    How about telling the council in Bristol that they’re heartless bastards and need to ring-fence these funds?  Why haven’t there been any Bristol councillors on the BBC today?  Could it be because those heartless bastards aren’t Tories?

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  16. Deborah says:

    Whilst I feel very sorry for the lady with the disabled child – just analyse what the story is – a lady who had met David Cameron last year asked yesterday for more help from Social Services.

    Isn’t that about it – or am I missing something?

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    • Martin says:

      Yes and I smell the work of the leftist agenda at work, the BBC, the Guardian, Mandelson, Campbell and Balls.

      The issue is this, when did she ask for the extra hours? Why wasn’t she already getting them from when Nu Liebour were in power?

      But the real story is there are NO Tory cuts to the funding for the respite scheme, that’s the FACTS, it’s up to her council to decide how to use the money

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    • John Horne Tooke says:

      This is what happens today – major corruption in the EU, so called “climate scientists” responsible for a corrupt energy policy that will kill thousands – yet the Prime Minister of Great Britain is asked questions about one poor childs care facilities.  
       
      This should be the responsibilty of the local council not the suposed leader of 60 million people.

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  17. Jim says:

    I nearly smashed my own radio this morning. The first hour of the Today programme could easily have been mistaken for a Labour Party Broadcast. It was so bad it was almost a parody of itself, to the point where the ‘civil servant destroys Labour’s record on the economy forever’ piece was actually mentioned very briefly and curtailed with (from memory) “right, lets change the subject”! Unbelieveably naked bias. This story hasn’t even made the darker recesses of the BBC website, let alone the front page. Its been on Sky’s front page since it broke. Not a whisper of oit on the beeb. The whole economic credibility of the opposition should be in tatters but those reading the beeb would have no idea.

    Sorry to rant.

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    • NotaSheep says:

      Will any Conservative Minister tackle the BBC over this? Why do I even bother to ask?

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      • Will S says:

        Why are the following question never pursued on the BBC:

        why go ahead and give birth to such a child if there was an early diagnosis of the problems the child would face?

        why are there no insurance options that allow people to insure against the costs of giving birth to and having to raise a disabled child? Why shiould the cost fall on the taxpayer?

        Controversial perhaps, but on this & other controversial subjects…silence: such is the intellectual (lack of) level of debate on many issues in this country.

        It’s time to challenge many sacred cows if we are to have healthy debates – if we are to be mentally healthy instead of being supine and cowering to the (hysteric) voice of the collective group who demand your money.

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        • Martin says:

          Valid points Will, but also where are the charities that used to often provide much of this help?

          I’d suggest they’ve been driven out by leftie twats who have taken state money to do a job that was often provided by charities in the past.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Those are questions for tomorrow.  First the BBC needs to address the actual source of the problem: the local council.  They control their own money, they should explain why they have money to send out fliers reminding citizens of their green obligations and desk jockeys to fill out forms, but not an extra £30 a week for what was obviously going to be a public problem if she didn’t get it.  Not a single word from a Bristol councilor. This is a political BS story first, and the BBC chose sides.

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          • Millie Tant says:

            A while back I recall we did get a little bit of insight into the  shenanigans that went on at Bristol Council’s budget meeting (racial name calling and all) and on what the Council spends some of its money – a Legacy Commission. Having failed to get this expenditure reduced or cut altogether and seeing the calibre of councillor on show, we can guess that there might be other forms of frivolous expenditure on pet projects. It would be no wonder there is no more money for disabled care.

            Here’s a reminder for anyone who doesn’t remember this sorry tale of the conduct of Council business: 
            http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Bristol-coconut-race-row-councillor-suspended-month/article-1125409-detail/article.html

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        • hippiepooter says:

          Why not go the whole hog, why not demand questions on why dont we have a eugenics programme? (Should there be any doubt, this is rhetorical prompted by repugnance).

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    • Craig says:

      Jim, that little mention of the story was buried away at 6.10am. That’s an unusual time for Norman Smith, who’s usually on between 6.30 and 6.45. Wonder why they pushed him back so early? And yes, after just a minute, Justin Webb said “Change of subject…” and moved onto the filibustering Labour lords.
      More watertight oversight.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Not a rant, great input!

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  18. A says:

    “Doctors at the British Medical Association struggled to treat victims of the 7/7 bus bombing because there was no medical equipment at their headquarters, the inquests have heard.”

    So, a massive bomb blast outside the medical professional’s union headquarter’s – i.e. somewhere where committee meetings are held, journals produced, and libraries used – and strangely no drips / bandages / stretchers etc. were available.

    Peter Holden, Sam Everington, and many other doctors performed heroic deeds in an awful situation, for which they have never received any official recognition.  They leapt in despite fears of a second device, shielded non medics from the carnage as much as they could, and saved lives.  All the BBC can comment is that there was no medical equipment available in an administrative building.

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    • 1327 says:

      A we have seen a few of these stories on the Beeb since the inquest started. Previously they went all out attacking the fire brigade because firemen wouldn’t go straight down to the underground stations but waited for the Police. At no point did the Beeb point out that this is part of their training and is so they aren’t caught in a follow up bomb. 

      Beeb reports from the inquest are few and far between and the ones that do appear always seem to criticise someone , anyone in fact other than the Islamo Fascists who carried out the bombing.

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  19. Kevin Hughes says:

    The BBC asks Soldiers from the ARRSE military forum for help in making a programme about the battle for Helmand. Read the comments. 
    .http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analysis/156360-bbc-two-battle-helmand.html

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    • Grant says:

      Kevin,
      Thanks for that.  Whenever I want some down-to-earth straight talking , I click on ARRSE, so to speak.  I urge B-BBC readers to click on the link and see what the squaddies think of the BBC.
      Some of the language makes our own dear Martin look pretty tame.
      Well done lads !

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    • Guest Who says:

      My opinion of our troops has risen higher as a result, were it possible.

      Beyond enjoying one avatatr that is a work of genius, I thought this line summed it up:

      ‘The problems with the BBC is that you would put across your point of view, and if it did not fit with their preconcieved ideas, then it would be “spun” until right became left..twas always so’

      One is sure the views expressed will not make the BBC and its embedded production company’s ‘final cut’.

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      • Grant says:

        The military, at all levels, should refuse to co-operate with the BBC whatsoever. There are myriads of other news sources without the military wasting time and money featherbedding a bunch of useless Beeboids who are actively  engaged in undermining our Forces at every possible opportunity.

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    • Charlie says:

      Kevin. Brilliant

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  20. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC gently sidling towards the truth just now.  Johnson supposedly can’t deal with issues in his “private life” and still do the job, etc.  Earlier today it was his “family”, leaving the door open for speculation of illness or whatever.  But they still won’t say what they’ve known for two days at least.

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    • Martin says:

      The BBC won’t report the truth, they will wait to the truth comes out elsewhere, then the BBC will spin it for Nu Liebour just as they did with fat shit Prescott.

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      • Techno Mystic says:

        Harriet Harman is on Breakfast looking a bit rattled right now.

        I had to turn over because it just went on for ages.  He is in the opposition and he isn’t even the shadow leader for God’s sake.

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  21. Martin says:

    So on sky News they say that when Postman Pat f**ked up on sky News the city were laughing at Johnson’s incompetence, but on the BBC Toenails assures us that Johnson was an economic genius.

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  22. Martin says:

    Effing brilliant, just seen the yanks soldiers in Sangin showing how to do it, sniper blows some rag head away with a radio.

    Not like our troops that would have to get written permission off some left wing  lawyer first.

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    • Cassandra King says:

      Lions led by lawyers?

      The British Army lost in Iraq and Helmand because of political interference, rules of engagement and lawyers overseeing all aspects of operations. Soldiers made to operate under such strict conditions that offensive operations were reduced to actually letting the taliban know in advance of comopany strength probes in order for them to run away first leaving behaond the odd IED beforehand. No helo inserts meant ground entries and exits and more IEDs.
      Timid frightened leaders always looking to lawyers for guidance does not make for happy battle planning, the political obession with talking and negotiating with all and sundry claiming to represent anybody led to fear of upsetting anyone. British tactics became sclerotic and timid and fearful operating on a shoestring with direct orders to save ammo. Company stregth probes became timid little forays into taliban areas with quick retreats, that aint fighting it is waiting for the final whistle tactics.

      The British Army is like a rottweiler with toothache, a fearsome destructive battleaxe able to smash any army in the field today BUT the this attack dog has been leeshed and then muzzled and then drugged and then hobbled! Let loose and given total freedom the Briish Army could destroy the taliban completely. But thats not the plan at all, those at the top are planning for humiliating defeat and the more shameful the better.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        I think our troops and commanders know that their operations in Afghanistan (like Iraq) are largely ‘PR’ for the benefit of unprincipled politicians and their sacrifices are very likely to be in vain.  In this scenario, is it any wonder that their operation priority is to minimise casualties when the objective of victory simply isnt there?

        A huge tragedy.  From all I have read, at the start of the War against Islamic Terrorism HMAF were held in enormous esteem by our American allies, now we are derided.

        We need a political realignment in our country.

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  23. Martin says:

    I noticed on the BBC 10PM news that they hardly mentioned the disabled child story and Cameron, but it doesn’t matter, the BBC know the truth but all day they’ve spun lies, blatant lies, now they know most people have worked out there are no tory cuts and that it’s the local council who have screwed up. But work done by the BBC, now the beeboids will be off for an hour in the bushes with a 12 year old boy on Hampstead Heath and a line of Charlie in an Islington wine bar to celebrate afterwards.

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  24. Gerald says:

    A bit late and possibly not bias but did anyone else hear Robert Peston virtually single handedly killing off HMV on PM yesterday afternoon.

    “I have learned that those who insure invoices of suppliers to HMV have withdrawn that cover. The M>D of HMV told me it was news to him” etc.

    Working in the building industry that sort of story almost guarantees a rapid expiration of the company. If I was to become an ex HMV employee in the near future good old Robert could well be less than ones favourite broadcaster!

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  25. Martin says:

    What a shock, Nu Liebour in turmoil and Matt Frei is spinning for Liebour and not a Tory in sight.

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  26. Grant says:

    Where are whiter than white, Dez, and dear old Scottie when we need them ?

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    • matthew rowe says:

      Probably waiting to see what the Grundian/news 24/Reddish Eddie has to say before they know what they are supposed to think!

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  27. hippiepooter says:

    Nicky Campbell has just interviewed Andrew Murray of the STWC with Tony Blair’s form press secretary Lance Price on Mr Blair’s appearance before the Chilcott Inquiry today.  I have just sent this email:-

    Dear Nicky, If you interviewed the head of an anti-immigration group who was a leading member of the BNP you would rightly give the public a ‘health warning’. Andrew Murray is a leading member of the Communist Party of Great Britain and defender of North Korea.  STWC also has leading lights of the SWP such as John Rees and Lindsay German. Why dont we get ‘health warnings’ about the extreme left on the BBC?

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    • hippiepooter says:

      I received a very prompt reply from Nicky Campbell which I wont divulge but was in keeping with my high opinion of him that a number of posters and commenters here may already be aware of.

      Here is my (slightly abridged) reply:-

      … Has the precept ever been examined that they have an agenda to undermine democracy and have mounted STWC in conjunction with Islamists to aid and abett the enemy at time of war?  Is there any reason why anyone but political anoraks like myself would be aware of the extreme left provenance of STWC?  The EDL is often referred to as ‘far right’ on the BBC (rightly so) and we have exposes of them, why isn’t the STWC referred to as a far left/Islamist alliance and why are there no exposés?
      Thanks very much for your reply Nicky, I know you’re very busy, so no umbrage taken if you dont have time to reply further.  Have a great weekend yourself.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        I’m intrigued as to why you feel you can’t divulge Nicky Campbell’s reply.  Whatever can he have said?!

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        • Demon1001 says:

          I wondered the same thing.

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          • Grant says:

            Yes, I don’t think there is any legal impediment to Hippie publishing Nicky’s reply here , so why not ?

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            • hippiepooter says:

              It’s based on my instincts on what the decent thing to do is!  You will all have to remain in mystery!

              Strewth, lay off guys.  I’m listening to the Chilcott Inquiry – you’re making me feel like Tony Blair! (Who I think is doing a stirling job in dealing with a second round of ridiculous nit-picking.  The only issue I see is that he may have been guilty of spin to get left-wing votes to sanction the war in the Commons instead of having to depend on the Tories.  An internal Parliamentary Labour Party matter as far as I’m concerned.  The important thing is that the Iraq War was critical to the defence of western civilisation, and what we need to focus on is the propaganda assault by the Communist/Islamist alliance of the STwC on behalf of Saddam Hussein with the complicity and connivance of much of the BBC and other media.)

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              • Grant says:

                Hippie,
                Certainly wouldn’t want to make you feel like Tony Blair , heaven forbid !
                But the point is that, irrespective of the rights or wrongs of the War
                ( I was in favour and still am ), Blair lied about the reasons for it. 
                As for Nicky Campbell, you were very lucky to get such a prompt reply from any Beeboid !

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                • hippiepooter says:

                  The reason for it was that Saddam refused to comply with UN Resolutions to admit WMD inspectors.  In a post-9/11 world that just couldn’t be tolerated.  He may or may not have spun the immediate threat posed by Saddam’s WMDs to get left-wing votes in the Commons for going to war so he wouldn’t have to depend on the Tories, but as far as I’m concerned, that’s for the PLP to deal with.

                  If there is any grounds for investigation into Blair’s spin machine it is the way pre-97 that New Labour was clearly working hand in glove with the BBC to smear the Tory Party.

                  One would surmise that the Iraq War presented Blair with a chance to do the right thing to redeem himself with the way he won power and dragged British politics through the dirt.  It’s because he dragged it through the dirt and left it there that he’s suffered what he has for doing the right thing when it counted most.  Frankenstein falling victim to the monster he created.

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    • Millie Tant says:

      What is STWC?

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      • Ed (ex RSA) says:

        STWC – Stop The War Coalition aka Support Taliban War Campaign, a campaign lead by the Trotskyite Socialist Workers Party in alliance with various other leftist and mohammetan rabble. 

        Like all good Trotskyists the SWP doesn’t like to blow its own trumpet too much in regards to the STWC and carefully plays down its role in the “broad campaign”.

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  28. Will says:

    On “Today” Justin Webb introduces lefty screenwriter Aaron Sorkin. In Webb’s introduction the first words to establish Sorkin’s worldview is that he dislikes Sarah Palin. This BBC obsession with the woman warrants therapy.

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    • George R says:

      BBC-NUJ-Labour, and Sorkin.

      Glenn Beck, FOX NEWS,  has a relevant comment here:

      “The Elite and the Cattle”



      (14 min video clip of 19/1/11.)

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  29. RGH says:

    The narrative concerning Ayuba Suleiman Diallo “freed Muslim slave” and the National Portrait Gallery is still intact.

    Historically interesting. Bit the narrative omits a crucial piece of information. Ayuba Suleiman Diallo was himself a slave trader who found himself caught out by another slave trading outfit from another tribe. He was never a ‘plantation slave’ but freed after two years because of his status and participated in the West African Trade as a partner (hence the portrait)  due to his tribal high status and influence.  He no doubt found time to further the family business of disposing of criminals and war captives in the usual fashion, only this time selling to the coast rather than to his co-religionists up north along the Trans-Saharan trade routes.

    As ever what is omitted is always vital for the historian, as it is often a question of choice by the writer and reveals a ‘bias’, as any serious historian would confirm.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12238237

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  30. George R says:

    Is it me, or does Mark Easton at his blog usually discuss only DRUGS (and immigration)?

    His two main campaigns seem to be for the liberalisation of drugs, and of mass immigration.

    Is he ‘Home Editor’ or Drugs and Immigration editor?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2011/01/another_acmd_member_threatens.html

    Perhaps he can join the Balls in Labour’s re-shuffled cabinet.

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  31. Kevin Hughes says:

    I am not sure if anyone has seen this, but I have found an interesting piece from a Blogger who is the Leicester Mercury Political Correspondent, David MacLean. It gives an interesting account of how the BBC operates at a local level.
    http://davidmaclean.eu/the-basic-law-of-council-reporting/

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Yep, this has been flagged elsewhere, but no harm in posting it again, not everyone sees everything – and this is excellent.

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      • Kevin Hughes says:

        Sorry about that I should have done a search beforehand. All the best, kev

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          This was mentioned, but no link posted, if I recall.  It’s very revealing of the BBC mindset.  Begin with a pre-determined Narrative and look for things to fit into it.  Classic.

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  32. George R says:

    Of course, the politically biased nature of the BBC-NUJ-Labour coverage of the Coulson resignation, can be contrasted with its chuminess with Campbell, who is broadcasting for it almost daily (sometimes with multiple appearances daily).

    And BBC-NUJ-Labour’s whole political approach in all this is, of course, tainted by its political opposition to Murdoch, News Corp, Sky, and Fox News.

    The most persuasive argument I’ve heard on all this today is by Michael Brown (of the ‘Independent’) who is critical of the roles of A. Campbell, under Labour, and of A. Coulson, under the Tories in the politicisation of the role of media communications in Downing St.; M.Brown advocates a return a non-political role in all this, with e.g. a politically neutral person (from e.g. the civil service) fulfilling that media post.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      The BBC has, of course, been after Coulson’s resignation for some time.  That Dave couldn’t see that one coming when he appointed him confirms my already low opinion of the man.

      Add in the total unwillingness of the Tories to do anything about the BBC in the face of continued bias and frankly they deserve what they get.

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    • Martin says:

      The difference between scum Alistair Campbell and the others is he was involved in making policy decisions, for example he was one of the unelected Liebour scums (Mandelson and Adonis being the others) who were trying to do a deal with the Lib Dems to form a coalition.

      Campbell was more than a PR man.

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      • Grant says:

        Martin,
        Worse than that, Campbell used to attend Blair’s meeetings with the security services MI5 and MI6.  Even worse than that the Service chiefs accepted his presence.

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  33. Grant says:

    BBC TV News at 1 had Beeboid,  ( the one with the squint, can’t remember his name, but doesn’t matter as they are all clones)  harping on about the timing of Coulson’s resignation , without any shame or sense of irony.  As so often said here, the BBC is beyond parody.

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    • Grant says:

      In contrast, ITV had Tom Bradby who, although he did refer to the timing, also emphasised that Coulson will be a great loss as he was so good at his job etc.
      Can’t imagine a Beeboid saying that.

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  34. George R says:

    A comment here on the role, and double standards of BBC-NUJ-Labour’s chum, ‘The Guardian’ in all this:

    “Piers Morgan slams ‘Guardian’ over Coulson”

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a299366/piers-morgan-slams-guardian-over-coulson.html?rss 

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  35. Deborah says:

    I listened to Radio 2 between 12 and 1 pm re the Coulson story (or for those of us outside Westminster non-story).  Paddy O’Connell in the Chair, guests – the red editor from the New Statesman (I think that is who he was – the Radio 2 website not telling) and Andrew Pierce – with all three cock-a-hoop re Coulson’s resignation – an hour long propaganda programme for the Labour Party.

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  36. George R says:

    Eric Cantona called a c*** by BBC sports presenter live on air

    Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddballs/853330-eric-cantona-called-a-c-by-bbc-sports-presenter-live-on-air#ixzz1BgDo1nyk

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    • Millie Tant says:

      Yes, the greatest broadcaster in the world has reporters and presenters who cannot manage words of one or two syllables or that most basic of common courtesies: to get people’s names right. Amazing what dross you can get by funding this monster to the tune of £4bn.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      There’s one huge difference here.  The Beeboid said he apologized to Cantona himself, whereas neither Naughtie or Marr or anyone else apologized to Jeremy Hunt.  Instead, they apologized to the listeners while giggling.

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      • Millie Tant says:

        I noticed that and wondered if they apologised because they read this blog where I pointed out at the time that they hadn’t apologised to Jeremy Hunt.

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  37. ap-w says:

    I started listening to the World at One at around 1.15, and heard the Ed Balls speech to the nation. Just as he came to an end a voice cries out across the studio “Congratulations, Ed!” It’s the voice of John Prescott. I don’t know what he was going there but I can only assume that they had interviewed him earlier in the programme for an account of what it’s like to be an intellectually out-of-your-depth Labour MP from Hull who has been caught having an affair with a civil servant.

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  38. Stuart says:

    Nick Robinson’s Blog: Are the media addicted to reporting on Labour?

    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2011/01/addicted_to_lab.html

    No, but You and the BBC certainly are.

    A little bit more self-indulgent tabloid tittle-tattle. Yawn.

    How about some factual insights about the issues that matter?

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    • Grant says:

      Stuart,
      Beeboids don’t do irony !

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Robinson has discredited himself twice in one blog post.  First he’s clearly feeling sympathy for all the negative attention on Labour, and thinks the audience feels the same way.  So he’s explaining to you all why this coverage is happening the way it has been, as if it’s wrong and upsetting the public, so they need to be assuaged.  Unreal.

      Worse is his last line about Blair and Chilcott.

      What is emerging before our eyes is a clash of cultures between a politician who believes governing is, in the end, about one man’s judgement and the Whitehall classes who believe it should be about official papers, formal consideration of the evidence and collective decision making.

      This is the BBC political editor giving you his opinion that the Iraq War was illegal and that Blair purposely doesn’t care about the rule of law.

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    • Guest Who says:

      At least it got to over 200+ before being yanked, albeit, and with some irony, just before most people who actually work for a living outside the politico-media bubble clock off and could have had a chance at commenting on a (vaguely) interactive blog that they have paid for.

      They do realise how that looks, right?

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  39. Span Ows says:

    Did anyone manage to get a screenshot of the beeboid tweet about Coulson? They had the line about Ian Edmonson was about to out Coulson and that was why he resigned – lawyers sent out an emrgency memo threatening to sue anyone who repeated the lie…beeb tweet disappeared.

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  40. Martin says:

    So according to the BBC, Cameron employing Coulson reflects on his poor judgement (repeated every 30 seconds on Radio 5) but Red Ed putting a lightweight like Alan Johnson as shadow Chancellor isn’t, nor is now appointing Ed bollockchops as his replacement.

    Radio 5 have been in heaven over Coulson, imagine what would excite a beeboid the most, to me him getting home and finding a 12 year old Romanian rent boy naked face down and tied to his bed with a big bag of top notch Cocanie next to him, now imagine a beeboid 100 times more excited, that’s what Radio 5 have been like today.

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  41. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Summary of Emily Maitlis’s reporting on Blair’s latest appearance at Chilcott:

    Q:  Will this draw a line under the matter?
    A:  No, Blair has not yet been found guilty, and the war in Iraq has not yet been declared illegal.

    No reason to watch any more of her or the BBC’s coverage of the issue today.

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  42. hippiepooter says:

    Here is Baroness Warsi’s speech in full    
       
    http://www.sayeedawarsi.com/2011/01/university-of-leicester-sir-sigmund-sternberg-lecture/
       
       
    What strikes me is her reference to ‘the ugly debate on Park 51’ (otherwise known as the ‘Islamist Victory Mosque’ to you and I).    
       
    One could argue that she couched her speech the way she did to urge her own community to take responsibility for the extremism amongst them without being unduly slated.  If you have to use the propaganda of stealth Jihad to get your community to give you a hearing, what does that say about your community?  Why is it a problem to get Muslim communities to denounce extremism?  Noone else has a problem.    
       
    Referring to the objections to the Victory Mosque as “ugly” makes the Baroness a well dodgy Muslim in my book.  Our Muslim population has nearly doubled since 9/11 and anti-semitic attacks in Britain and Europe have more than doubled.  I dont know so much about Britain but in France and Sweden the influx of Muslims has led to an exodus of Jews.  Muslims aren’t suffering problems, they’re causing them.    
       
    If the Baroness was just playing clever linguistic games to get British Muslims to reject extremism in their midst she was very stupid.  Her ridiculous accusations of ‘Islamophobia’ in a country where they’re completely free to practice their religion and there has been next to no violent reprisals for 9/11 and 7/7 can only exacerbate distrust of Muslims.    
       
    Certainly I know on 5Live her stupid comments (to be kind about them) just gave a platform to the stealth Jihadis to spout their propaganda.  Noone was invited onto 5Live to make the criticisms about Warsi’s commetns that the majority of the ‘Islamophobic’ British public would like to see.

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    • Grant says:

      Yes, Warsi is incredibly stupid. Her comments are more likely to cause problems than solve them.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        An every day story of Muslim folk:-  
         
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-12248091
         
         
        Does anyone know of non-Muslim Britons attacking family members for going out with Muslims?  Doesn’t exactly seem uncommon the other way round in Muslim families.  
         
        You’ll note that in the BBC.CO.UK search below the only three hits that come up about this are confined to BBC Manchester, although it is currently linked to on BBC.CO.UK UK News, so I guess one shouldn’t read too much into that.  Anything on BBC TV or radio about it?  
         
        http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=“Ashraf Azad”&video=on&audio=on&text=

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  43. Umbongo says:

    It’s a funny old world.  Although this comment is not really germane to the issue of BBC bias it’s an interesting facet of British political life that, for a substantial section of the political class, in the end it’s always the Jews wot dunnit (whatever “it” is).  
     
    In the Telegraph this morning  
     
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peteroborne/100072900/hatred-of-muslims-is-one-of-the-last-bastions-of-british-bigotry/  
     
    Peter Oborne, as “sound” and as traditional a conservative columnist as can be found in that respected organ, flies to the support of Baroness Warsi.  However, Oborne displays thereby the same mindset on specific issues as any BBC apparatchik.  In his particular case, where Israel and/or Jews are concerned, “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”.  Consequently, Moslems who are anti-Israel to a man (unless they are fleeing persecution by . er . Moslems  
     
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel-to-grant-citizenship-to-hundreds-of-darfur-refugees-1.228881 )  
     
    and, more to the point, viscerally anti-Jewish are top of Oborne’s list of those who must be coddled and appeased.  
     
    Oborne is as happy as the recent Labour administration to sacrifice the interests of the indigenous population of Britain on the altar of his hatred of (in his case) Zionism and his scarcely concealed dislike of Jews. As it happens Labour encouraged third world – particularly Moslem – immigration for electoral purposes but the result is the same: we “natives” now suffer a massive irruption into our country of believers in an alien creed whose mainstream and “moderate” doctrines and teaching are bent on the destruction of our culture.  
     
    Oborne appears quite prepared to risk the destruction of our way of life if the consequence of that is the destruction of Israel (and, as an added benefit, the discomfort of 200,000 British Jews).  At the same time, this suits Labour (and the LibDems) who thereby have a bloc of 2million or more anti-conservative voters and potential voters.  BTW there’s nothing in this kerfuffle for the Cameroons.  Although I have little respect for their religion I consider that Moslems are as able as us kfurs to see through Warsi.

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    • Demon1001 says:

      I read half of that this morning and gave up in disgust.  I also saw a recent article by him blaming Israel and Zionism for all the world’s woes.

      The Telegraph used to be one of the last bastions of common sense and decency.  It was bad enough that it has a weekly blether from that swivel-eyed left wing nut-job Mary Riddell, but now Oborne has joined in is it an indication that there is a change of editorial slant and soon it will be indistinguishable from the Grauniad? 

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      • Grant says:

        Demon,
        The Telegraph started drifting leftwards years ago when the Barclay brothers appointed Will Lewis, a New Labour apparatchik, as Editor, presumebly in the hope that Labour would include them in an honours list.
        Lewis has gone now but the Telegraph still seems to be leaning to the left despite a rearguard action from a few stalwarts.
        As for Mary Riddell, the ultimate Labour airhead !

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    • Grant says:

      Umbongo,
      Oborne has been drifting leftwards for years.

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      • Umbongo says:

        Grant

        I’m not so sure about that.  As I implied in my initial comment, whatever his general view on politics his attitude towards Israel takes precedence.  He has always been a loose-ish cannon and his column has been relatively unpredictable which makes it worth reading.  However, he is completely predictable where the Middle East is concerned and, in Oborne’s world, Israel can do no right and Israel’s enemies – here and abroad – can do no wrong.

        Demon 1001

        It is ridiculous that Mary Riddell is paid good money to spout minor-league Toynbee-isms by the Telegraph whereas the idea that the Guardian (or the BBC) would employ Simon Heffer is unthinkable.  It was a miracle that Peston’s predecessor as Business Editor at the BBC was Jeff Randle – a mistake which the BBC will not repeat.

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  44. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Here’s yet another incident of the BBC reprinting a White House press release without checking facts:

    China to buy 200 Boeing aircraft

    The US has signed a $45bn (£28bn) export deal with China, according to a Washington official.

    The trade deal includes a $19bn purchase of 200 Boeing aircraft.

    Except it doesn’t.  The orders for these planes were already made, beginning as far back as 2007, back when a certain cowboy the BBC hates and said had damaged the relationship with China was President.

    China’s ‘new’ jet orders anything but

    The deal President Hu signed does not include any new jet orders.

    Delivering the formal approval during Hu’s visit is designed to make the Chinese government appear responsive to U.S. concerns about the balance of trade.

    However, all of the airplanes in the sale were announced and booked by Boeing as firm orders over the past four years. Chinese airlines had already paid nonrefundable deposits and signed contracts for the jets, most of them as far back as 2007.

    “The only thing new is (Chinese) government approval,” said Boeing spokesman Miles Kotay.

    Chinese airlines decide on orders somewhat independently, but the final deals must always be formally approved by the government.

    This approval would have happened anyway, but is used now by the White House as window dressing to prove how great The Obamessiah is doing for US business and trade.

    Boeing vice president of communications Mary Foerster insisted this Chinese government signoff is important.

    “The deal isn’t done until the approval is given,” she said.

    And the BBC dutifully went with it.  They don’t report on US issue, they give you either their personal opinion or White House talking points.

    Don’t trust them.

    Also, notice that one of the execs accompanying the President to the meetings with China was Jeffrey Immelt, CEO of GE.  Immelt is now the President’s head of the Jobs Panel.  Funny how GE is getting all these deals from China for turbines and whatnot.  Corruption R Us at the White House, but the BBC isn’t interested in investigating.

    Oh, yeah:  Just as this wonderful Obamessiah deal to help US business and create jobs has been signed, Boeing laid of 1000 workers.  But don’t expect the BBC to investigate, as they wouldn’t want to hurt the Narrative.

    Never, ever trust the BBC on US issues.  Always check facts on every report, no matter how big or how small.

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  45. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Beeboids still suggesting that eventually the Iraq War will be declared illegal.  Stop giving your opinions and just tell us what happened.

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    • Craig says:

      Just after you posted that David, Clive Myrie interviewed the father of a soldier (Alex Green) killed by a sniper in 2007. The extent to which Myrie pushed that line was remarkable and the interview needs quoting.

      It began with Myrie saying, “You, in losing your son in Iraq, you’ve been directly effected by Mr Blair’s decision to go to war.”

      In his first answer Mr Stewardson (the father) said he thought Mr Blair came across as “honest and genuine” and that the Chilcot Inquiry is “a complete waste of time.” All the other bereaved relatives that I’ve seen interviewed today have been very bitter about Blair, so this was an unusual turn of events.

      Clive Myrie sounded very surprised at this answer and said, “A complete waste of time? A lot of people do have concerns about the legality of the war and that’s part of the reason why this inquiry is going ahead.”

      Mr Stewardson held his ground, saying that he didn’t see the need to keep digging up the same things, asking the same questions and getting the same answers time after time. He said it’s time to “move on.”

      Clive still seemed in something of a state of shock, and responded with a very suprised-sounding “All right”.

      When Mr Stewardson said that it’s time for those people who are trying to “rehash the same old stuff to be quiet” because “some people, like me, find it quite insulting and quite upsetting,” Clive gave a not-very-convincing “Sure,” and asked “As far as you’re concerned this was a legal war?”

      Mr Stewardson said that an elected government took the decision “in good faith. I don’t know what else people want to hear.” He criticised those at the inquiry who hissed and shouted at Blair. “It does upset those of us who are quietly getting on with our loss and just living our lives.”

      Clive still wasn’t having it: “I think, in defence of those people who would say that it was an illegal war, they would point to the suggestion that there were no weapons of mass destruction, that Western forces went into Iraq on false pretences and that lessons have to be learned for the future.”

      What a difference between Myrie’s unyielding interview with the man who lost his son in Iraq and all those open invitations he was offering to Carol Turner of the Stop The War Coalition (STWC) an hour earlier (“Has your opinion changed?”, “You don’t believe that either?”, “Did any of that cut any ice with you?”).

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      • Craig says:

        Later, Clive Myrie interviewed a strongly anti-war former British diplomat called Carne Ross. After his earlier interview with Mr Stewardson, an impartial interviewer would have adopted the opposite devil’s advocate position and challenged Mr Ross’s statements about the illegality of the war. He didn’t. Not even once. He just kept asking Mr Ross if the Chilcot Inquiry should have been asking tougher questions.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          That’s the line of questioning the BBC News producers directed Myrie to take. It’s editorial policy now.

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  46. james1070 says:

    Life Imitating Art

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  47. George R says:

    INBBC and the Islamic Republic of Iran.


    INBBC leads with report from those trustworthy ‘Iranian officials’ that talks on Iran’s nuclear programme are ‘positive’. Really?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12247254

    And, of course, INBBC relegates what Mr. Blair had to say today about the Iranian threat; but the ‘Telegraph’ has:

    “We should listen to Tony Blair on Iran”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/8275202/We-should-listen-to-Tony-Blair-on-Iran.html

    But Blair has it wrong on his criticism of Israel:-

    “Tony Blair on Israel and Islamism: Home Truths and One Illusion”

    Melanie Phillips (Oct 2010)

    http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7618/pub_detail.asp

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  48. Bof says:

    Perhaps tories getting message at last according to Douglas Carswell
    http://www.talkcarswell.com/

    Well done to Jeremy Hunt. He’s ensuring that the next Chair of the BBC Trust will have to face a Commons confirmation hearing – with a vote presumably – before taking the job. MPs could veto the candidate for the role.

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  49. Man in a Shed says:

    You all need to head over to the Daily Mail to a sudden outburst of honesty from Peter Sissons on the BBC’s political mindset.

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    • Demon1001 says:

      Just added this to the thread about Cameron’s spinner being sacked as well.  Excellent article.

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