James Delingpole has a stunning post on this BBC Horizon programme which sets out – as usual – to rubbish those who oppose the AGW orthodoxy. There is nothing I can add to Dellers, other than to say that the BBC is sinking to ever-lower depths in its climate change lying.
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So the BBC interview him for 3 hours and only use a small part which does not represent the bulk of the interview. Aren’t there rules about this?
Then again, how naive to expect honourable behaviour from the BBC.
Yeah – I told him that in one of my posts. Surprisingly naive for a man of James’s character, I thought.
Yes, anyone being interviewed by the BBC should insist that it is broadcast live.
Or refuse to participate unless they allow you to have your own camera and record the proceedings for your own protection.
True – he who sups with the devil … !
He should have refused to do the interview unless he had permission to see the final edit and give his permission.
Horizon used to be a great series, but in the last few years its been hijacked by the leftist scum that has infested the rest of the BBC.
It’s not the rat at 10 Downing Street that needs hunting down it’s the leftist scum at the BBC.
‘It’s not the rat at 10 Downing Street that needs hunting down it’s the leftist scum at the BBC.’
IMO the rat at No 10 (aka the Cast-Iron Kid) should be exterminated along with all Beeboids past and present [possibly Peter Sissons might be offered a 5-year quarantine to test for full recovery!].
Kevin Marsh, ex-Today supremo and now editor of the BBC College of Journalism, is crowing about the BBC’s Delingpole “gotcha” on both his own Twitter account and the one he runs for the college. Unsurprisingly, Marsh hasn’t seen fit to draw CoJo students’ attention to the recent revelations in the Mail by Peter Sissons. That said, the BBC College Twitter account is dominated by links to stories in the Guardian and to negative commentary about the Daily Mail, so journalism students get a good grounding about life in a BBC newsroom without having to read Sissons.
‘…journalism students get a good grounding about life in a BBC newsroom.’
Indeed. Especially the control producers have on what goes in (via guest selection), during (if live, via camera angles, lighting, , question prompting, moderator direction, etc) and out (via the edit suite).
From what I have read of what they claim vs. what actually happened, he should commit professional seppuku rather than crow.
That said, it seems the savviest media critics can’t seem to resist a TV slot that is near bound to be rigged and rebound.
I just wonder what the relative heft of the Garaun hard copy and online readership is vs. the Telegraph. That silly actual representation of audience in terms of scope and numbers, which does not trouble Aunty very much when it doesn’t suit.
It might be that in not only being loose with facts, but as craven in their attempt to smear those who disagree with them, Aunty and her sisters have in fact engaged in further pedal self-abuse.
@ DB .. So clearly no agenda there then at the BBC CoJo.
Wow, James D being lost for words by a complete non-sequiter by the President of the Royal Society. Well, we can all live in hope that a President of the Royal Society might posess intelligence and integrity. I guess James D has discovered that that hope remains forlorn.
Still, if Sir Paul Nurse and the BBC are confident that the former didn’t subject Mr Delingpoe to 3 hours of bombast in the hope of elicting 30 seconds of footage that might discredit him out of context, I’m sure they’ll have no problem in releasing the full 3 hours to James D.
What you posted last week DB shows that Sir Paul Nurse’s agenda is to distract public attention from the fact that the reason the public have such little trust in ‘AGW scientists’ is because they refuse to submit themselves to the peer review demanded by their colleagues.
Can’t wait for that Peter Sissons’ piece tomorrow 😀
Alright, I think I’ve got it now: the e-mails in which alleged scientists conspired to publish fraudulent data need to be looked at in context. Meanwhile, cutting down a three hour interview to a 30 second gotcha is perfectly ethical.
A-huh.
Meanwhile, research is continuing to find any links between the BBC that thinks only licenced scientists are allowed to comment on any aspect of public policy involving science, and the other BBC, the one where a whole bunch of media studies Tarquins keep showing 10 second segments of context-free CCTV footage as evidence of police brutality. What are the odds of the BBC ever running a show in which an experienced PC asks human rights lawyers why they hate law and order?
He should stick to live appearances like the thing about working class comedy on the Today program where there is less room for manipulation and censorship.
Horizon – need you say more.
Sorry to be off topic, but apart from the issue in point here, this program is dumbed down and seems to be designed for people that don’t have an attention span of more than 3 minutes. Most episodes are unfortunately utter rubbish – they seem to be designed to present everything as emotional or action science – high anxiety drama. Everything is repeated 20 times with dull interviews until you get bored of waiting for more science fact and a respectable depth of understanding.
It didn’t use to be like this. If you look on youtube at some of the documentaries in the 70’s and 80’s they are really good. James Burke for example was far more scientifically educational than the ‘science’ they put on on now. They presented to an audience in an unpatronising way which in turn rose to the challenge of understanding.
Now it seems it is being used as a propaganda machine…
The new series of Universe on the History channel is far superior to the crap churned out by the BBC.
I despair at the so called ‘science’ churned out by the drugged up twats at the BBC.
The last popular ‘science’ program I saw on BBC was Stargazing Live with Brian Cox. I really am no fan of this celebrity ‘scientist’ – clearly he was chosen because he fits in the with the BBC lovie presenter culture.
But on this occasion there were a few noticable moments in the last program where he was trying to be serious and convey science, but the BBC had teamed him up with Jonathon Ross as the copresenter. The token dummy was there to drag the program down with stupid comments. I just can’t imagine this going on in any other country. I dispair for our kids!
Woss is an immature prick
I haven’t watched “Horizon” for many years but it used to be quite a serious programme.
Are there any science programmes on BBC which aren’t dumbed down to the level of a 5-year old ?
The Sky at Night.
Yes and as soon as Sir Patrick pops his clogs it will be scrapped or turned into some Muslim outreach science show.
Martin,
Some years ago, I had a totally bizarre conversation with a “British” muslim who claimed that all scientific advances had been predicted in the Koran. Nothing I could say would change his view !
It was a vivid Horizon programme “Chips with Everything” in 1978 that woke Callaghan’s government to the huge significance of the microelectronics revolution. The DTI at the time was woefully ignorant of the impact of Silicon Valley – on the types of new products that could be made, on the prospects for integrating electronics into existing products, on the way products would be designed and manufactured – and on the way communications would explode.
THAT was the BBC “in the old days”.
Reading the blurb about tonights “Horizon”, I see the programme includes people who believe AIDS is not caused by HIV.
So where does Paul Nurse go to investigate this ? Africa ?
No, he interviews a gay man in the USA who believes this.
I would like to invite him to my second home in sunny Gambia where, some years ago, the esteemed President Yahya Jammeh, announced that he had discovered a cure for AIDS which is a secret only known to him and only works on Thursdays. Most of the “medical establishment there either support him or keep their mouths shut”. The alternative could lead to worse than losing their jobs.
Alas, some Gambians believe him and have stopped using condoms leading to an increase in AIDS.
Surely, a subject for Horizon.
Note to Beeboids. Jammeh is black, African and muslim.
The inverted commas should be after “establishment” !
What time on a Thursday does it work ?
And if only he’d introduced a TV licence tax on the useful idiots in Gambia, payable on a Friday, YJ could tell the BBC what exciting things are about to happen on a Saturday.
But as you say Grant, Paul Nurse is not … well … er ! … there.
So we may well never know if someone needs something special for the weekend in Gambia.
John,
It is worse than that. Gambia had been quite successful in an anti-aids campaign based on the use of condoms and had one of the lowest AIDS rates in Africa.
Nice big advert outside the main military barracks at Yundum “Go into battle with a condom”.
But, on the plus side, there is no TV tax in Gambia !
Note to Beeboids. Jammeh is black, African and muslim.
Then he must be right. Or else it is the chopping block for the BBC reporter.
But then, this was the reason that the BBC stopped any balanced when reporting on the Arab war on Israel, and all matters Islamic. Its get with the program or its kidnap, convert to Islam or a beheading.
Its much safer therefore tp show off ponce brave fearless journalistic credentials by being really tough on Israel.
“James Delingpole has a stunning post…”
“Stunning” yes; just because of the amount of effort he puts into jumping up and down screaming that; “he asked me a question I couldn’t answer, it’s just not fair!”
He did answer it; he said it was a false analogy, which it was.
Not screaming (hard to assess tone in writing) maybe, but this opinion from one perhaps not in the Delingpole fan club is interesting….
bengoldacre ben goldacre if that was the killer delingpole moment that the bbc have been crowing about all day then i’m actually quite unimpressed #horizon
… as much for his opinion of the BBC’s professional treatment around this science-based piece: ‘crowing’?
Maybe some are just too easily impressed?
And really do pick the wrong times and things to try and show up.
Oh dear, our Dez/Scott grasping at low-hanging fruit that just isn’t there. Meanwhile, we find the low hanging fruit from the BBC is dropping out of the trees at our feet.
Oh, and James Delingpole has included B-BBC in his links of ‘debunkers’ of Sir Paul Nurse’s Goebbels approach to ‘science’.
Horizon at one time was a truly informative program. Some 15 years ago, the BBC decided that they needed to make it more hip. The result was ingnorant reporters getting in the way of the expert, trying to explain to us, the idiot viewers, what the expert really meant. All over-layed with loud and jarring music.
I wrote several letters to the BBC telling them the harm they were doing. Never received a reply.
Best – don’t pay the license fee.