178 Responses to OPEN THREAD

  1. Paddy says:

    The beeb ugly little brother channel 4 has got it’s thoroughly slanted lefty vehicle 10 o’clock live. 4 lefties in a circle jerk.

    Their website has a poll about the dirty digger.

    Please log on and piss them off by supporting the dark Australian lord . Even if you hate Murdoch do it just to piss them off please 🙂

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    • Daniel Clucas says:

      From the website:

      Alastair Campbell and Tim Harford appear in episode 2. 

      Pass

      Watch David’s episode 1 rant against Jeremy Hunt’s idea of local TV

      Yeah I think I’ll give this show a miss tbh.

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  2. George R says:

    It’s not Gray and Keys, it’s Islam – so it’s OK for INBBC to go along with Islamic discrimination agaiunst females apparently.

    BBC 2 TV tonight 9 pm: Muslims and preference for males in their religion- programme -‘You Can’t Take It With You’.

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    • George R says:

      Extract from INBBC synopsis:

      “Meanwhile devout Muslims Khalid and Sara have raised their two daughters to be equal to their son, but the Koran states that boys should be left twice as much as their sisters.”

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y4x9c

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    • Grant says:

      It will be interesting to see how the BBC deal with the contradiction between Sharia Law and the English and Scots Law of intestacy.
      Or not, as the case may be !

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  3. Deborah says:

    Natsman

    I know it is channel 4 and not relevant for this site but I am sure Matthew Cain has got camper and camper of late – feel as though he is doing it to prove a point.

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    • Natsman says:

      I wish he’d get into a camper, with a batch of BBC rent boys, and bugger off – permanently…

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  4. George R says:

    Will this register with BBC-Labour?

    “Record UKIP poll ratings – only a matter of time before they overtake the Lib Dems”

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100073790/record-ukip-poll-ratings-only-a-matter-of-time-before-they-overtake-the-lib-dems/

    (by Ed West)

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  5. George R says:

    Islam Not BBC (INBBC) bigs up its anti-American angle in this report from Pakistan:

    “US official kills two Pakistanis in Lahore.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12298546

    There’s this gratuitous speculation from, presumably, a Pakistani INBBC reporter, perhaps reflecting Pakistani anti-Americanism:

    “The BBC’s Syed Shoaib Hasan in Pakistan says that the incident may add to anti-American sentiment in Pakistan.”

    Note:

    INBBC’s Syed Shoaib Hasan in Pakistan does NOT say that the incident may add to anti-Pakistan  sentiment in America.

    Apparently keen to implicate the American, the INBBC reporter does not realise that he may confusingly answer its own query in this final sentence:

    “Our correspondent says questions are certain to be asked as to why the American was carrying arms and why, if he was a diplomat, he was not provided with armed protection.”

    Comment for INBBC: as the American was not provided with armed protection, he was carrying arms.

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  6. pounce_uk says:

    So how many of you have heard from the bBC about that gay couple who we denied a bed for the night by a Christian couple, in the fact the bBC so concerned by this vile hatred committed by a religious bigot they found another couple who are also suing. So in light of the above how many people have seen and heard this story from the bBC. Oh they had it up on lights last night and by today it has been removed.
    Pair charged with stirring up homophobic hatred
    Not only have the bBC relegated this story to the regions but they have edited it and removed a vital part of the story.  which was:

    Razwan Javed, 30, and Kabir Ahmed, 27, are accused of handing out leaflets called ‘The Death Penalty?’ which called for homosexuals to be executed outside the Jamia Mosque in Derby in July 2010 and through letterboxes during the same month.

    Meanwhile the bBC is currently airing this on the main UK board.
    ‘Gay’ Ugandan fears deportation

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  7. Andrew Johnson says:

    You know the viewing and listening figures the BBC regularly tells us they get?  Does anyone know for sure how they are collated?  Years ago, it used to be a little set top box for a small “representative” sample of the population.  This was then factored up by a computer programme to arrive at millions rather like opinion polls. 
    I know for certain that SKY and Virgin have very accurate viewing figures,  because they are able to see what everyone is watching, something  the BBC can’t do. The BBC can’t know what radio stations and programmes people are listening to either.
    Since, the BBC regularly says millions watch and listen to their programmes, shouldn’t all licence payers know how these statistics  are arrived at?  Just how accurate are they?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Can’t answer your question sadly, but it is a good one.

      know for certain that SKY and Virgin have very accurate viewing figures

      Not surprising. They only get paid for qualified eyeballs. A problem the BBC is blissfully spared.

      One rather suspects the BBC claims here should be treated with just about anything else they issue, from ‘polls’ to ‘research’ to ‘critics claim’… well, basically anything they broadcast, doubt it by default.

      Except that bit about unique funding. That seems sickeningly accurate.

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  8. George R says:

    More blatant INBBC propaganda for Islamising TURKEY.

    INBBC is using BBC licencepayers’ money to get a pro-Erdogan, pro-AKP Turk, Ms Zaman, to write AKP political campaign  material, disguised as journalism.

    Ms Zaman, who lives in Istanbul, joins in the Islamic enthusiasm from the start of her propaganda piece:

    “Turkey’s growing ties with Arab world”

    [Opening extract]:

    “On 10 January, before an audience of eminent Islamic scholars in Kuwait City, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan was awarded the ‘Outstanding Personality in the Muslim World’ prize.
    Drawing on his training as a Muslim cleric, Mr Erdogan elicited cries of “Allahu Akbar” (God is Great) as he launched into a passionate tirade against Israel and its treatment of the Palestinians in his acceptance speech. ”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12290479

    And, of course, this INBBC propaganda piece for Erdogan* continues with the INBBC-backed support for 80 million Muslim Turks to join EU.

    (* This Erdogan: ‘Mosques, Barracks and Bayonets’)

    http://www.defenddemocracy.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11791009&Itemid=361

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    • Grant says:

      Amberin is one of those useful idiot Turk journalists who frequently claims that the current Islamo-fascist government is the most democratic, open and transparent in Turkish history. All very strange as she has never been particularly religious herself.
      But, perfect Beeboid material.
      Maybe the BBC will find a female Turkish journalist who will give an opposing view in the interests of balance. On the other hand, I won’t hold my breath.

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  9. NotaSheep says:

    Daily Politics and interview with Joe Anderson, Labour Liverpool Councillor, no discernible interruptions when he spoke. Then conservative Councillor and none of his answers went uninterrupted. The bias is tangible and quantifiable but still the BBC would deny it.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Hey, was speaking to this Italian guy with a fedora and violin case, he told me the Mafia doesn’t exist either!

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  10. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Wait till a group led by the Muslim Brotherhood takes over in Egypt.  Then we’ll see how much freedom the young people cut off from Twitter and Facebook want.

    Having said that, I won’t hold my breath waiting for the BBC to remind everyone that this was George Bush’s vision.  Oh, how they sneered at the time.

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  11. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Somewhere, a Beeboid’s head just exploded.

    Meet Justin Amash: An Arab Zionist And Tea Party Palestinian


    Did you know the Arab-American community is represented within the Tea Party crowd?  Justin Amash is the son of a Palestinian father, and Syrian mother.  He performs the role of a thoroughly “assimilated” Yankee Doodle Arab complete with that familiar, American-friendly first name, and even quotes Ronald Reagan.  This Tea-Party Arab is another great example of why we should reject ethnic-based politics.

    Amash was the successful Tea Party Republican candidate for the 3rd Congressional District in Michigan.

    The link goes to an Islamist hate site.  They’ve targeted this guy.  But the fact that he exists is yet more proof of how the BBC fed you false propaganda about the Tea Party movement.

    These Mohammedans hate US values, and clearly hate Israel.  In fact, the article reads an awful lot like certain Beeboid opinions we hear from time to time.

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  12. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Looks like Mohammed El-Baradei is trying to pull a Yeltsin.  He may be best poised to walk into power if the current ruling party decides to allow even semi-free elections.  He would be the BBC’s wet dream.

    He’d remove Egypt’s blockade of their border with Gaza and allow free movement.  And turn a blind eye while Hamas gets armed to the teeth.  Egypt can still remain a peaceful neighbor of Israel as their proxies in the war against the Zionists will be strengthened.  He’s an international darling as well, so it will be tolerated.

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    • Martin says:

      Looks like Mohammed El-Baradei is trying to pull a Yeltsin

      Shit David, I thought you were going to say he’d been caught pissed out of his head and trying to conduct a military band!!!

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  13. David Preiser (USA) says:

    So 129 firms were warned last September by the Office of Fair Trade that they were breaking rules, and now 35 have surrendered their licenses to operate as trading advisors in the debt sector. Ray Watson from the OFT told the BBC just now that none of them met the required standards, including having unqualified people advising their clients.  So they’re cracking the whip and getting results.

    It’s quite appalling that this has been allowed to happen, yet the BBC hasn’t bothered to mention that Gordon Brown let it go on and on.

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  14. kitty shaw says:

    Blair was worried about leaks from his cabinet on Iraq.

    Bound to be true.

    With friends like Clare Patholgical BS-er Short who needs enemies.

    Then again he appointed her, what did he expect.

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    • Martin says:

      Funny the BBC ignored the military chief’s comments who clearly stated soldiers died in Iraq because of the one eyed twat from Fife.

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  15. kitty shaw says:

    A rehash of earlier postings but made specific:

    Compare and contrast

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12214368

    Those foul despicable Christians denying gays a shared room in their own premises despite their declared policy.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-12309666

    People of “unknown” religion who want to kill gay people and want to encourage others to do likewise.

    Strange how the religion was vital and had to be identified for a case of sleeping arrangements but is not (when in reality known) for people who actually want to maim and kill people for their sexuality.

    The bBC – if they ever visit the real world you will be sure to let me know won’t you.

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  16. Jane Tracy says:

    I see that Stephanie Flanders has been giving her interview of one of the main men at Google a plug on her BBC blog. The Flounderer seems to have missed the fact that her blog is supposed to be about the UK economy as many of the comments are pointing out to her.

    Those losing their jobs at the BBC must be so glad to see that those at the top still have plenty of money for loads of them to decamp abroad to Davos so they can back-slap and waffle. By the way is anything happening in the UK economy or North Africa?

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  17. Jim says:

    Just watching the 6 o’clock news. Flanders couldn’t have sent in a more sneering and biased report from Davos. Ridiculous stuff.

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    • Martin says:

      To be honest the Tories deserve all they get off the BBC over the cuts. 

      Since the election the BBC has had a narrative that Tory cuts are evil and must be opposed.

      Jeremy Hunt and co are either stupid or deaf to this crap from the BBC.

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  18. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Frank Gardner just said the the Muslim Brotherhood are “not that radical”.  FFS.

    He says that this would, of course be seen by the US as a “turn for the worse”.  But he seems to have no real objection to them taking over.  Then he goes on to say that Egypt really must have free democracy now.  Under the Muslim Brotherhood?  In your dreams, Beeboid.

    Gardner is the BBC’s go-to expert on Egypt because, not only does he have all that experience reporting from Arab Muslim countries, but he went to university in Egypt for a while.  So of course he’s going to be biased a certain way.

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  19. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Stephanie Flanders just said that the US economic policy of tax, print (“borrow”), and spend money is better than the Tory policy of not doing that so much.  Oh, sure, she said that “nobody is going to make a snap judgment” based on the recent figures showing that the UK economy shrank a tiny bit, but she was clearly asking the audience to compare and contrast, and hinting at who was more successful.  I won’t even go into how she misrepresented the US economy.

    As someone who has followed this Larry Summers protogé who shares an ideological and personal history with both Red Ed and Even More Red Ed, it’s no surprise which policy Flanders is advocating.

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    • Jane Tracy says:

      Well I gather that in the United States Summers is regarded as an arrogant fool. Of course Ms.Flanders gave an obsequious peam to him in one of her articles. I guess those depending on Harvard’s pension funds would have a different view to say the least.

      As to her view shall we file it with “Ireland and Greece will get nowhere near default”?

      What programme was the Flounderer on?

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        She was doing a report from Davos for the BBC News Channel.  It’s probably recycled on other channels as well.  She advocates for only one style of economic management ever.  Technically, she’s not supposed to advocate for anything, but there it is.

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    • Jim says:

      Agreed, for a piece on one of the BBCs prime time news bulletins it was perhaps the most transparently Cameron / Osborne bashing one I think I’ve ever seen

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      • Jane Tracy says:

        Well if you think about it Cameron and Osbourne should be pleased as so far in her predictions at the BBC Stephanie Flanders has continued to get things wrong….

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  20. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The Mandela eulogy is starting a bit prematurely on the BBC.  During a special report from South Africa about how Mandela is back home from the hospital, they put in a vox pops with some youngster who exclaimed that Mandela had given him his freedom and that Mandela “is my family”.  
     
    “The Mandela sparkle is as bright as ever.”  This is beyond reporting, it’s over-the-top praise.  Such a different tone compared to whenever Mrs. Thatcher is taken ill.

    Back to the studio, and the female anchor says, “They sound nervous” over Mandela’s health.  “I think we all are,” mewls the female sports Beeboid.  Not the most professional behavior.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      Mandela is a universally acclaimed figure and rightly so in my book.  Very, very few people would take issue with him receiving this sort of reverential treatment.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        News presenters don’t need to be exclaiming their personal feelings on the issues they’re talking about.  Leave that to everyone else on the BBC.  I don’t care who it is.

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  21. Natsman says:

    Well, at 93 come July, I would have thought his days were pretty well numbered.  Nobody lives forever, not even a black has-been terrorist.  But I’ll take everyone’s advice, I shan’t panic – I shan’t even think about it. Nelson who?

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  22. james1070 says:

    The BBC and the TV media in general have been claiming that the riots in Egypt have no Islamic elements, because the Muslim Brotherhood is run by old men. Yet watching the footage on TV everyone seems to be running round screaming “Allahu Akbar!”

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    • RCE says:

      How Islamophobic of you, James. That sort of talk belongs around the dinner table and not on a responsible blog such as this.

      I’m just waiting for the first ‘expert’ to say that “Allahu Akbar” is a generic phrase and is in no way connected to Islam.  Anyone want to be that expert won’t be on al-Beeb?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      It doesn’t look the like the early instigators of the riots had anything to do with the Muslim Brotherhood, so it’s fair enough for the BBC to describe it that way, I think.  However, who does the BBC think is going to win in a free and fair election?  While it’s easy to find English-speaking Egyptians who sound articulate and spout platitudes about freedom and justice, what will they end up voting for?

      One of the Egyptian “expert analysts” the BBC had in the studio earlier today said something about how one of the reasons Mubarak is disliked is because he makes Egypt the protector of Israel.  Inded, the BBC keeps bringing up how much money the US gives Egypt, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

      If a candidate in this hypothetical free and fair election makes breaking ties with Israel a top campaign policy, does anyone doubt who would win?  Not even El-Baradei’s Western money and support can beat that.

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      • hippiepooter says:

        Meanwhile we’re cutting up our new Nimrod fleet before it’s even been deployed …

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